r/conspiracy: best version of historical facts?

best version of historical facts?

3 2017-09-25 by HangryBuffaloBill

Is there any known collected source of history oertaining to all major conspiracies that show how individuals and families came to power? I am constantly trying to research history but there is so much idk who i should amd should not read about, or what events do/dont matter. Everyone in this sub like to say they have the truth but really dont we all have slightly different versions based in what we did/didnt research? I am curious if there is a textbook if REAL history instead of the garbage I learned in school.

35 comments

1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-09-25

Embers of War by Frederick Logevall.

That's some truth about Vietnam, starting with French Indochina and Ho Chi Minh's early years, going through til American troop withdrawals. It's mind blowing

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

awesome thank you.

1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-09-25

No problem. It really is the single best account of any time period I've ever encountered. 1400 pages, but it kind of has to be.

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

I am 30 years old and am just now truly realizing how important knowing history is. Not knowing history has allowed us to descend to where we are now as a whole

1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-09-25

It's almost like the truth is deliberately twisted in history books!

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

well thats why i wanted to see if anyone has rewrittwn them. im looking less along the lines of hitory of the world and more along the lines of where the secret societies started and how people who are leaders of thier countries got there.

1 farmersboy70 2017-09-25

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

yeah yeah yeah. that quote is so true but also so overused it doesnt hold value anymore

1 Pologrounds 2017-09-25

There is not one textbook. You'll have to read hundreds of books to gather a very large and unbiased view of both recent and ancient history.

What are you interested in right now, so you have a starting point?

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

im interested in how the "elite" came to be and also the involement of aliens within the govt. and if it isnt aliens i believe it was teslas works

1 Pologrounds 2017-09-25

Atlantis: The Antediluvan World

The Story of Civilization (11 Volumes) - Will and Ariel Durant

The Grand Chessboard - Zbigiew Brzezinski

Strategic Vision - Zbigiew Brzezinski

Between Two Ages - Zbigiew Brzezinski

Diplomacy - Henry Kissinger

World Order - Henry Kissinger

The Limits To Growth - Club of Rome

The First Global Revolution - Club of Rome

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution - Antony Sutton

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler - Antony Sutton

Tri-Laterals Over America - Antony Sutton

America's Sixty Families - Ferdinand Lundberg

The Rich and the Super-Rich - Ferdinand Lundberg

The Myth of Democracy - Ferdinand Lundberg

Tower of Basel - Adam Lebor

Babylonian Woe - David Astle

The Two Babylons - Alexander Hislop

Retirement Heist - Ellen Schultz

The Red Market - Scott Carney

Memoirs - David Rockefeller

The Complex - Nick Turse

The Media Monopoly - Ben Bagdikian

Propaganda - Edward Bernays

Propaganda - Jacques Ellul

Tragedy & Hope - Carroll Quigley

Rise of the House of Rothschild - Niall Ferguson

The Prince - Niccolo Machiavelli

The Republic - Plato

The Open Society and Its Enemies - Karl Popper

1 ToddWhiskey 2017-09-25

No single textbook, I'm afraid. This is a good one on WWI, for example:

Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

There is no website that has a simple timeline with all of this conspiracy stuff and how it all connects and who connects to who? seems odd that this wouldnt already exist. I would think someone who has been a CT would have done this by now...

1 Findingthedot 2017-09-25

It would make for a great read, but you are talking about a multi thousand year series of events, just the last 10 years I could write 5 books about.... it's fucking ridiculous it would be easier to record what aspects of our life ARENT part of the Grand conspiracy..I've been sitting here for 5 mins I'm drawing blanks. Our lives are a fucking conspiracy wrapped in a conspiracy dipped in some mk ultra baptized in the black popes urine. Jeeeeesus

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

lol thats whats is infuriating to me. i read one thing but to understand it i need to red 3 more things about 2 more ppl, so on and so forth. i think i want to write something or at least link the info all from one spot

1 Findingthedot 2017-09-25

Write it down, because I've too many times had a folder full of bitchin links relating to a topic, only to go back to it 6 months later and half of are disappeared, domain up for sale, etc. You don't really see the 1984 style info eradication program till you start trying to back track research. But it's all out there, in many different forms, art, books, music, oral histories, folk lore...etc.. I say build your Alexandria, write it down, connect dots, share what you've found. Even if it is deleted , successfully making even one person think is worthwhile IMO.

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

i like the way you think sir

1 Otto-von-Bolschitt 2017-09-25

there won't ever be the kind of end-all-be-all source you seem to be thinking of

I like to refer to this reading list when this kind of topic comes up, though. One of the best, imho.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/574d4n/alan_watt_recommended_book_list/

1 ToddWhiskey 2017-09-25

An interesting list but some of the books definitely fall under "know your enemy" label...

1 Otto-von-Bolschitt 2017-09-25

those are some of the best (ie most necessary to read) ones

1 ToddWhiskey 2017-09-25

"The Secrets Known Only To The Inner Elites" is missing. And Bill Cooper as well.

1 Otto-von-Bolschitt 2017-09-25

I've read Cooper

who's the author on that first one?

1 ToddWhiskey 2017-09-25

Lyndon LaRouche

1 ArkMann 2017-09-25

Also, How The Nation Was Won.

1 ToddWhiskey 2017-09-25

Also, Treason in America, Chaitkin

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

I think we should work to make this unified source. something more official so we dont look like a bunch of wackos and instead simply curious people looking for answers.

1 Findingthedot 2017-09-25

There was a conspiracy wiki kicking around. But you can guarentee when anything truthful comes around it gets shut down fast. If you seen the way the world /internet/media mobilized against this community when pizza gate started unraveling you'd understand why noone is running to be the face of this unified source...I mean there's certain aspects of conspiracy that if you start chatting about the thread disappears, your computer shuts down, Internet gets cut off. People don't talk about it cause you only need to have it happen to you once to know we already lost, I might even go as far as to say the Internet as we knew it ended when whatever it was that was activated last year went into action...you are browsing pre approved conspiracies only now

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

damn man.

1 Pologrounds 2017-09-25

Remember in The Bourne Ultimatum, when that journalist uncovered 'Blackbriar', and the NSA got a ping that that word sequence was mentioned in a phone conversation? They pinpointed the guy in minutes. Yeah, that tech exists. Echelon. We be f-ed.

1 Findingthedot 2017-09-25

Yup, to an extent we are certainly f-ed. Start starving the beast now and your kids might see better days

1 DrFucksAlot 2017-09-25

fake sky

sky manifesto

1 CaptainApollyon 2017-09-25

r/alternativehistory

1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-09-25

oh shit, didnt know that existed!

1 no1113 2017-09-25

As far as recent-ish U.S. history, I'd go with this book right here.

1 RubJellyOnUs 2017-09-25

chrono trigger tbh, non of our "official records" account for the ancient advanced civs. chrono trigger does, so its more accurate

1 ToddWhiskey 2017-09-25

"The Secrets Known Only To The Inner Elites" is missing. And Bill Cooper as well.

1 Findingthedot 2017-09-25