Any evidence Paddock was the Shooter?
45 2017-10-02 by Arkfort
This guy's name and picture keeps coming up but has anyone actually brought forth any evidence that Stephen Paddock was the shooter?
45 2017-10-02 by Arkfort
This guy's name and picture keeps coming up but has anyone actually brought forth any evidence that Stephen Paddock was the shooter?
44 comments
1 GearMetal 2017-10-02
nope and there will be none
1 captcha_bot 2017-10-02
Paddock himself is unable to confirm or deny either.
1 pikerbiker 2017-10-02
The best kind of patsy
1 zippityd0dah 2017-10-02
They failed to kill Oswald early enough. They've learned since then.
1 leidogbei 2017-10-02
Officially he is still the "alleged" shooter
Personally I have my doubts. Paddock himself could have also been a victim, after all police entered his room almost an hour after the shooting began, only to find Paddock dead already to an apparent suicide.
1 bug_ridden_prototype 2017-10-02
You mean apart from the fact that he was in the room from which the shots were fired with more than a dozen rifles?
1 Arkfort 2017-10-02
His body was
1 TheCrawlerFL 2017-10-02
How does this prove that he shot the guns though? Occams Razor says you're right, but there's still the possibility that he was killed and left there for LEO to find
1 MindWarfare 2017-10-02
Not yet.
1 edfromla 2017-10-02
Nothing at all.
1 PantsMcGillicuddy 2017-10-02
What kind of evidence would satisfy you? They say he was in the room with all the rifles, already dead from apparent suicide.
If they say his finger prints are all over the rifles and he has gunpowder residue from firing, would that do it or would that be assumed to be false since it would come from MSM?
1 Arkfort 2017-10-02
IDK maybe security camera footage?
1 Longtimelurker859 2017-10-02
This is going to be important. Vegas has metric shit ton of cameras and he had been checked in since Thursday. If the public is not shown video footage of his movements after the investigation is over, that will be a pretty big indicator that something is up.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-02
Security camera footage of him carrying all the guns into the room. Also of him in the hallways going from one room to the other during the shooting
1 Jsantoslive03 2017-10-02
Was only 1 room but yes I'dike to see him carrying the stuff in as well
1 TheBasedNrd 2017-10-02
I seem to recall two separate rooms with windows blown out. What's the significance of the second room, if he only used one? Trying to piece all this together just like everyone else. I think the only true conclusive evidence would be video camera footage, if available. I've never been to Vegas, but it would seem every floor would have multiple cameras filming every inch of the hallways, considering the amount of money won/lost in these hotel/casinos.
1 Jsantoslive03 2017-10-02
It was a corner suite. Both windows were in the same suite.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-02
That must have been a huge suite
1 Jsantoslive03 2017-10-02
Idk if thats 100% but just what I've been seeing
1 TheCrawlerFL 2017-10-02
I heard it was two adjoining rooms
1 Jsantoslive03 2017-10-02
I have seen that too
1 Arkfort 2017-10-02
That suite would have to be like 2000 SQ feet to span those two windows
1 talixansoldier 2017-10-02
link
1 Launchboxed 2017-10-02
Most modern guns can be broken down and rebuilt in minutes. I think for an AR15 there's a couple push pins and it just dissembles.
Barrels can almost always be removed.
For shotguns there's often a screw cap at the end of the tube, once that's unscrewed the barrel just comes right out.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-02
19 rifles found
1 TheCrawlerFL 2017-10-02
Source? I heard 10-12. Regardless, this is getting expensive. Even assuming he was using a bump stock and not automatic weapons, this is getting up into ten's of thousands of dollars worth of weapons and ammunition (assuming he had "thousands of rounds")
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-02
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/stephen-paddock-vegas-shooter.html?referer=
1 TheCrawlerFL 2017-10-02
Two rifles mounted on tripods instead of moving one to the other window..? More than 19 guns and only two had scopes?
the housekeepers didnt notice he had 20 guns and hundreds of rounds in his room???
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-02
you seen this yet?
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/73wd2l/theyve_been_planning_this_since_2015_check_the/
1 Launchboxed 2017-10-02
A do not disturb sign on the door would keep housekeeping away
1 Beanthatlifts 2017-10-02
When I played hitman all i did was dress as an employee and nobody said anything
1 Launchboxed 2017-10-02
Wtf! That's insane. I didn't know there were so many guns involved.
He could have them broken down and then just kept refilling a suitcase and taking parts up? But what the hell. One person can't really use more than 2 long guns at a time.
Seems like 2 rifles would be just as dangerous and less crazy. But then again, dude was probably crazy.
1 krussianit 2017-10-02
Most rifles can't be disassembled with just a few clicks and a shot gun would have done nothing from that range. An AR-15 is not an automatic weapon. Too much media and too many movies
1 TheCrawlerFL 2017-10-02
From what I understand it's likely he wasn't using automatic weapons but was probably using bump stocks since the rate of fire seems to vary wildly which an automatic weapon wouldn't do
1 Launchboxed 2017-10-02
I really only added the bit about a shotgun for pure education. I'm sure a slug would still be lethal at that range, but it's not worth speculating really.
Also I only said the AR can be disassembled 'with just a few clicks'. (I said a couple push pins which for any AR I've handled is true)
Most require tools, and it's not very hard to sneak hand tools in a bag.. so it's safe to say he brought the guns in pieces and uses tools to reassemble them.
I have read that he was using a bump stock which we know makes it easy to shoot fast. If he had that much $$ and guns it's also possible he had trigger modifications as well.
It's also pretty easy to convert an AR to full auto though. But from the videos I would guess a semi automatic.
I will ask though, I didn't say anything about full automatic in my comment so I'm curious where you got that from..?
It seems like you were trying to make it out like I knew nothing about guns and only know from 'hollywood' and to show I'm wrong, without really reading what I had said.
But naw I'm one of those people that get bothered when people in movies shoot guns and there's no slide action! That happens all to often. That or the revolver that never runs out of ammo..
1 Kcarp6380 2017-10-02
Yes
1 Mikey_Mayhem 2017-10-02
Any evidence he wasn't the shooter?
1 Arkfort 2017-10-02
The fact that two rooms that were not connected had windows shot out on the same hall. The fact that 19 rifles were found in the room. The fact that authorities gave multiple stories of what happened to him. The fact that he had no motive. I could go on.
1 ddaniels02 2017-10-02
there has been reports of a "mid-60s white male at an Las Vegas casino after payday".
1 Arkfort 2017-10-02
Why was this not upvoted more?
1 ddaniels02 2017-10-02
haha. maybe just the general lack of knowledge of the LV population. I had grandparents that thought it would be great to live there in retirement like many others. pssh.. Los Wages, NV more like it.
1 _D_I_S_T_R_E_S_S_ 2017-10-02
He was a plant. This was a symbolic shooting.
https://imgur.com/a/k0THR
Kill zone underneath the shadow of a pyramid and obelisk, observed by a sphinx.
1 MoonbeamGlitterGoose 2017-10-02
I would like to see footage of the 32nd floor hallway from before the shooting started. Did someone/people gain entrance into his room? He was a frequent gambler, maybe he just so happened to be the person staying in the room the shooter/s needed to carry out attack. If he brought up all those weapons, in cases or broken down, he would have had a ton more luggage brought up than a few day trip would require. He being dead in the suite is simply not enough to convince me.
1 Jsantoslive03 2017-10-02
It was a corner suite. Both windows were in the same suite.
1 TheCrawlerFL 2017-10-02
From what I understand it's likely he wasn't using automatic weapons but was probably using bump stocks since the rate of fire seems to vary wildly which an automatic weapon wouldn't do
1 Launchboxed 2017-10-02
I really only added the bit about a shotgun for pure education. I'm sure a slug would still be lethal at that range, but it's not worth speculating really.
Also I only said the AR can be disassembled 'with just a few clicks'. (I said a couple push pins which for any AR I've handled is true)
Most require tools, and it's not very hard to sneak hand tools in a bag.. so it's safe to say he brought the guns in pieces and uses tools to reassemble them.
I have read that he was using a bump stock which we know makes it easy to shoot fast. If he had that much $$ and guns it's also possible he had trigger modifications as well.
It's also pretty easy to convert an AR to full auto though. But from the videos I would guess a semi automatic.
I will ask though, I didn't say anything about full automatic in my comment so I'm curious where you got that from..?
It seems like you were trying to make it out like I knew nothing about guns and only know from 'hollywood' and to show I'm wrong, without really reading what I had said.
But naw I'm one of those people that get bothered when people in movies shoot guns and there's no slide action! That happens all to often. That or the revolver that never runs out of ammo..
1 zippityd0dah 2017-10-02
They failed to kill Oswald early enough. They've learned since then.