No. Every time something like this happens, people say "IS THIS THE LAST STRAW?!?!?!" And nothing happens.

It's true. We can bitch all we want but it doesn't mean a thing if nobody gets off their ass to start improving things in the physical world.

Can someone explain how and where to start? Everyone is so convoluted these days. Who do you even blame in this situation? Where do you stand? Who gets punished?

Also join a credit union and self-manage your own retirement (in an IRA not 401k).

I believe that since a consensus cannot be reached about who the enemy is, we are are stalled out here on this sub. Or the topics covered here are too diverse some plans to be put into motion. But I would check out:

https://anticorruptionact.org/ http://www.ijan.org/ https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

Https://www.voteflux.org/

If I may add to your list.

Fuck these bitpart suggestions.

Form under the banner of Digital Democracy, open source all knowledge, put truth on the table and let us all decide together.

Now more rulers, only leaders.

Digital Democracy or Death, fuck this 'reuse your plastic and be a nice person' shit.

so they did a study about censorship in china, to see what was being censored, and it seemed that the chinese censors would allow the people to complain about almost anything, but as soon as the people started talking about actually doing something about it, thats when they get shut down

its probably similar in USA

of all of the various forms of activism, the one that scares the establishment the most is "direct action"

what is "direct action"?

lets say there is a village with one well, and the man who owns the well is a tyrant

the villagers could sit around and complain about his tyranny,

or they could just go dig a new well.

most people would rather sit around complaining about the tyranny than doing something about it

as they say,

stop focusing on tearing down the old, and start focusing on building the new

Yea, get some actually decent healthcare.

Isn't all that just human nature?

Community? Are you on Earth? Who’s basement are you occupying and shielding you from reality?

Newsflash, this capitalistic hellscape is relatively new. People have been around a lot longer. This isn't how humans always lived -- hid away, isolated inside of their houses on their smartphones.

Yes, let’s go back to being hid away in our caves beating our women. Or hid away in huts hiding away from disease. Least this time we got the damn internet and smart devices. Quit your bitching, idiot.

I agree with you. The cutthroat society has been carefully cultivated. It's not human nature. It was imposed on us.

how exactly did Cain kill Abel?

kinda curious that we have a Senator John McCain

and a VP named Tim Kaine

/r/HumansBeingBros

The biggest lie we're fed is that human nature is violent and aggressive, that everyone has some 'dark side' or whatever. It's totaly nonsense. Humans are by nature loving, sociable, empathic beings. The vast majority of people just want to live in peace. The vast majority of human beings that kill do so for a pay check, to survive. Whereas think of how many human beings work to help others with no compensation, just out of love.

We're very hierarchic, which we get from apes. I don't think we're generally empathetic except where it fits into our hierarchy. For example it's ordinary people who commit genocide, and they abandon what Jesus would call empathy in order to do so - but it's only 'outsiders' we're slaughtering so whatever. And then there's ordinary competition: you fight your way up the ladder so your DNA can attract a more viable mate.

What's interesting for me is how the internet is changing our perception of the hierarchies. For one thing if everyone born in Syria has a smartphone then privileged nationalities - our being born in Europe and America and therefore having better lives for no reason - become impossible to justify using any conventional morality. So we have to give voice to our hierarchic prejudices, heretofore unmentionable, and of course it's not pretty.

Maybe self-awareness is born from it though. If we're crushing people for being born poor and we can no longer call them foreign because they have smartphones and are in the same conversations as us, we'll need new stories. Instinctively I don't think we could transition from more honest stories to less honest ones, e.g. the Nazi stuff that's getting popular is surely unstable. We'll probably latch onto all kinds of bullshit in the meantime.

Most conspiracies that I'm familiar with say that "order out of kaos" is the prelude to Global World peace, the last great lie.

Chaos.

Not according to Maxwell Smart!

Carl Marks

The last great lie by whom, and leading to what? Please elaborate

Assuming he means by the shadow gov't, and leading to the New World Order as specified by the Club of Rome for instance.

the Club of Rome is responsible for perpetuating the myth that global climate change is man made

https://www.ixquick.com/do/search?query=club%20of%20rome%20climate%20change

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LV is retarded, 60 killed and 500 injured, makes orlando look sane and real.

theres no way they can competently fake up 60 deaths and 500 injured vicsims.

it happened but the question is why'd he do it and who helped.

I personally know people that had family killed there.

i feel you /u/FuckWadSupreme

i had a relative killed at Sandy Hook

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/74a7p3/1111_song_by_tiller_wills_set_to_images/

theres no way they can competently fake up 60 deaths and 500 injured vicsims.

If some part of the government and/or other powerful entity did it, I doubt they'd fake it. Far easier and more convincing to just shoot at the crowd, and if they are willing to go to these lengths (setting up a shooting) for whatever end goal they had in mind, I doubt they'd be above doing so.

theres no way they can competently fake up 60 deaths and 500 injured victims.

why not?

have you ever seen the movie Saving Private Ryan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3q8tba_lw

they faked a lot more deaths on 9/11

/r/911truth

Yes. fuckery abounds. Take a moment to review the ft lauderdale airport fuckery for a prelude to this false flag...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGC-x8_VY8M http://taskandpurpose.com/heres-look-fort-lauderdale-shooters-now-disabled-instagram-account/

And here. How many fucked up things can you spot in this video (hint, try going frame by frame)....

https://www.instagram.com/p/BO7tXP1glI3/

Honestly, I can't remember or keep up with all the different shootings anymore.

at first Sandy Hook was like OMG WTF to a lot of people but now that everyone has come to terms with this kind of atrocity propaganda, the Las Vegas thing didn't fool anyone that i know irl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_propaganda

Sandy Hook was hardly the last one, these kind of shootings became popular in the mid 80's, albeit to a much lesser extent than what its like today. Sandy Hook was just one of the more publicized and post 9/11 ones, not to mention the existence of the internet and the particularly fucked up nature of it.

yes i've come to believe that a string of fake shootings are how Australia came to pass gun laws

that's exactly the point. keep them rolling in so we don't have time to process and shoot down their narrative.

BUT

there are millions of us now. who are red pilled and researching constantly. the truth is unstoppable... finally.

Explain please?

You're a poet with awesome links. Well done.

I went on Facebook today and it was interesting to see the variety of people talking about it. I saw a group of middle aged women discussing if there was more than 1 shooter. This has people talking and they will have to provide answers or all trust will be lost.

We can see the influx of normies on this sub alone.

I just wanna say that I've only been on Reddit for two years and i look up things like music festivals or read the scary story sub. Im new to this sub but I'm definitely the one out of my friends that talks conspiracies and they just look at me and go "haha ya". Pls accept me. Lol

we accept you sister

your friends will wake up in their own due time

maybe their grandpa will say something to them that will send them down a rabbit hole

as more and more people are waking up, its getting harder and harder find people who aren't "woke", and when those "woke" people are moms and dads, aunts and uncles, brother and sisters, co-workers, church-goers, teachers, etc it gets harder for the normies to avoid it.

When I started coming here 4+ years ago we only had 150K. Been interesting to see the sub grow.

they will have to provide answers or all trust will be lost.

The fact that there's any trust still around and wasn't already lost long ago is I think a big part of the problem. No more trust worthy of being given to the establishment. At all.

I think it will.errode the trust of the sheep more. People are starting to wake up. Maybe that's why they want her neutrality? That way they can force feed us our need without us forming our own opinions from multiple sources.

I think it will.errode the trust of the sheep more.

Quite possibly - at least I certainly hope so.

People are starting to wake up.

It does seem that way.

Maybe that's why they want her neutrality?

Did you mean her net neutrality? I'm not sure who the "her" is.

That way they can force feed us our need without us forming our own opinions from multiple sources.

Yeah. Wouldn't doubt that this is where tptb would like for things to go.

I think we've moved on already.

Nothing on the front page.

Nope everyone will forget and carry on

Let's not use the more than 1 shooter as 1 reason why this is a conspiracy. Eventually they maybe able to debunk that notion later and it will be an easy attempt to discredit any other conspiracies. I don't believe there was more than 1 shooter but I do believe there is a bigger story here.

Or we an ask the important questions now instead of 40 years down the line like the Kennedy assassination. There are genuine questions that need to be answered.

I agree in asking questionS but let's not allow 1 question to be repeated over and over as "the" conspiracy. Focus on the big questions directly tied to the orchestration. Proving 1 shooter would may not be that hard considering we know nothing of the evidence they have so far.

Well there are plenty of people reporting multiple shooters at multiple hotels. There are lots of questions that need to be asked. ZeroHedge had a great article on the big ones yesterday that was on the top of Drudge and here for quite awhile and I know it got a lot of views.

If there were shooters at multiple hotels we would have seen video of it. If you go to r/vegas sub you can see locals who worked at some of the locations where these supposed shooting locations occurred saying that they were all on lock down.

I think we sometimes give the elites too much credit. They have the money and the power but the brains are not the best. Look at Hillarys entire campaign. It was a fucking mess. I'm starting to think the obvious answers to these conspiracies are usually the right ones because they aren't fucking masterminds. I've never seen this many woke people in my life. They are going to strike back hard but we can beat them. Talk to people in person, you would be surprised how many people are already suspicious. Turn off the msm news, the late night talk shows, snl etc. It's all just brainwashing. People believe them because we haven't given them a reason not to.

Never underestimate your enemy. Tsung TSA art of war.

I'm not i just don't think they are invincible.

just try to stop paying taxes

But taxes make sense. They're used to war and the "drug war," which is shameful, but I don't want people to get away with not paying for schools and firefighters and highways when I have to.

allow me to show you a bridge over the mississippi river that was built long before any taxing authority came to the surrounding area

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin#/media/File:Wisconsin_in_1718.jpg

schools are not what they seem. schools are there to take the children away from the family and give them over to a state employee. this allows the government to indoctrinate the children with propaganda without much interference from pesky parents, and allows the female to be available to work outside the home, to flood the market with cheap labor as women compete with men for jobs, thus driving down wages. working men have not received a real raise since 1973.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtdidL2MQo

furthermore, schools fill your mind with drivel like the Bohr model of the atom, the Big Bang model of the universe, that vaccines are safe and effective and that men have walked on the moon.

whats worse is that they mis-instruct the students so thoroughly with programs like "common core" that the students aren't even capable of using their math and science skills as part of their critical thinking.

not to pick on you personally, but if you are the typical America, i would hazard to guess that:

1) you still believe men walked on the moon

2) you can't apply math and science to understand why 1 is impossible

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6hvagj/apollo_moon_landing_story_problems_for_math_and/

Better to overestimate them than to underestimate them.

Sun Tzu

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bbc+art+of+war

LOl thank you I had to take a guess since I was driving. I have never been a good speller. Ugh!

Yep, American society is woke society is woke ad fuck. That's why they are murdering and waging psychological war against us. It only makes us stronger

Stop saying woke, you all sound retarded.

Mentally challenged here. That's hurtful.

Society creates new language constantly, best to try to keep up, urbandictionary.com is a great source

Yeah but once it hits SNL that's how you know it's played out.

there are certain words and phrases that the media has been forced to respond to with forum slides etc

some of those phrases would be

"fake news"

"false flag"

"terror hoax"

Dammit I just bought like 5 pairs of Levi's Wokes.

Let's propose an alternative. Conscious?

Yeah. Or, you know, just 'awake'. We aren't doing ourselves any favours by butchering language.

I hear you.

I always wondered about building 7 on 9/11. How could they screw up that royally and have a perfect demolition of a building that never got touched by a plane. Maybe they think we're dumber than we really are.

It's too easy for them. Too few people question anything. Rather get fat watching the Kardashians.

And not as many camera phones back then.

Did something happen with the Kardashians???

dat /r/ass

Well, it's worked for them before, and most people are pretty dumb at this point, and I think some very important evidence on the 23rd floor needed to be destroyed, so they rolled the dice. And they got away with it. We'll see if they get away with it again... as Terence McKenna put it, humanity is in a photo finish as to whether we evolve into Aquarius or descend into hellish fascism that'll likely destroy the planet. We shall see.

They know we know but they cover it up to make it less obvious. The problem is the division of the people. They get us focused on Hillary and Trump but the real issue is the Intelligence Community. The shadow government is the creation of it all and the way to get money from tax payers after fake shit like this happens. Instead of socialism or some communist government they create fake wars to milk us for money.

You have it right here. They aren't as smart as you think they're are. The hide in the shadows. A big part of the reason that they have been so successful up until this point is that no one believed such evil could exist.

Exactly, they used the innate good nature of the human species against us. Most people cannot fathom the depths of depravity of those who have power in this world.

Yes. Even hardened criminals with multiple murders on their record wouldnt do some of the atrocities these people commit on a regular basis.

Like lop babies heads off and drink from their warm flowing crimson neck holes.

Yeah, it's very raw. The CIA/mafia nexus goes around doing this "Operation Gladio"-style shit, and they get away with it because so few people are informed. It doesn't make them geniuses; their power is perilous.

They do seem to be getting sloppy..

The baby boomers are getting senile and desperate

It’s time to raise our vibrational frequency and move into a new age.

You have felt it, have you not? I remember some of your older posts from this year saying that you have noticed a large-ish shift in our collective frequency, and that many more people are becoming aware of the greater scheme of things.

Hate to burst the bubble but people have been saying this exact things for decades.

All this will do is further divide the populace against itself. There will be those that will beleive the FBI conclusions and those that will not. Labels will be slapped and lines will be drawn. And while we bicker, fuckery will be afoot.

Except, it's actually true. We have entered into the age of Aquarius. The Age of Enlightenment. The "golden" age that Mayans and other ancient civilizations knew would happen.

It's been talked about for a long time because it's been prophesied for a long time.

Looking out into the world only proves this. Everyone's awakening from a deep deep slumber and starting to ask questions and wake up.

There's more turmoil, strife, anger, as people bring things to the surface we have held down within us collectively for so long.

Things are changing and we are entering a new age. Change is always occurring, and we are walking forth into a new age of truth

Oh ya, I think we are going to have at least a mini-evolution of sorts where a large portion of the population has an awakening that will change life forever.

2017 was the 50 year anniversary of the Summer of Love

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Love

BRB I'll go get the LSD.

I feel the same way, this one is on a lot of people's minds as being very fucky

Was Las Vegas the last straw?

I'd say nowhere near. That 911 wasn't the last straw seems to indicate that almost nothing will be the last straw, honestly. Seems there will continue to be people who buy the establishment narrative, unfortunately.

Hate to be so pessimistic, but I won't be surprised if it'll be "business as usual" for the vast majority of the population by, say, next week.

Question, has anyone seen Stephen Paddock dead body?

Yes, if you believe the picture of a dead body in his hotel room was really him.

Nope. Only thing on my social media is people trying to ban guns or advocating as such. Further dividing us

Wow! Well said. It is clear that you understand what is going on. The true nature of the rulers has been hidden, but it is being exposed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

Calm before the storm perhaps?

Get ready for the mother of all limited hangouts

I feel like even "normal" people are starting to realize that something fucky is going on here.

Check public opinion polls, the majority people already know that we were lied to regarding 9/11. The majority of people are "conspiracy theorists" now and have been for years. Not that the corporate media would ever let anyone know this fact.

link?

Does anyone think that TPTB are loving all of this overwhelming attention to the matter? Watch now something horrific is going to come back because of this extra attention, and this event will go down as the "Vegas Incident" of 2017? No matter what happens, it seems it's inevitable that it could be swayed in whatever direction seems necessary for the agenda (if that's what is going on). I'm not saying this just applies here, but it's similar to throwing the "out there" views of conspiracy like flat earth in the limelight to discredit conspiracies as a whole. The whole term conspiracy is a damnation in itself as it was designed and intended to be. A religious person will claim to be religious, but not that kind of religious.

Think of the leverage that could pull. "Oh no, that's just silly talk. That's the kind of talk that led to the Vegas Incident".

I'm not sure if i'm wording this right, but it's kind of a scary concept if you're catching my drift. Very akin to the patriot act in ways. Getting people aware to all the fuckery going on, could quite possibly be used against the truth.

a little too dramatic for my taste

TEAR DOWN THE WALL

I feel like the plot of Mr. Robot is going to unfold before us pretty quickly. As long as the good guys win, I'm all for it.

But we are beings of light. And once we realize that there is no darkness, but only absence of light... we'll be okay.

This.

Most people are over it, sick of hearing about it. Everyone went to work this week. Everyone has bills. People are still watching TV, going to movies, restaurants, drinking, playing on their iphone. It was awful. But how long can you sit in front of the TV and cry about it? Life goes on. How much did Orlando change things? Uh none? That was long gone and forgotten within a month for 99.9% of the country.

Once Black Friday hits, xmas is coming, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who gives a shit. People around this sub have had rock hard boners since it happened, this is their xmas, birthday, new years rolled into one. Footage, interviews, largest mass murder, this is the glory hole. But for 99.9% of the country, their weekend plans havent changed. So uh, no.

i think that once the people identify a false flag, then any politicians who act upon that false flag should be considered accomplices to terrorists, and traitors for waging war on the constitution and the people

(((Sen Feinstein)))

But is this really a false flag? To control the narrative you need a motive. Motives are easy to cook up. The fact there is no motive, letting people creative their own theories, works against the goal of a false flag. This has to be the least scripted mass murder ever. He was a nut job dating back years. Sometimes a crazy person is just a crazy person.

No one has given a decent theory as to a goal of any deception? Chaos? Destabilize? That works against the goals of the global powers. They want us being happy little sheep enjoying our Starbucks and iPhones. These events cast a light on the problems going on that the powers would rather you ignore.

So the idea vegas was a false flag is silly.

except this time they're above it, and they can only go back, or be a part of the wall.

The sad truth. And unfortunately, so many pick the later. Often it's rationalized with feeding and protecting "your family".

Aren't the concept of family just more divisions as well. Only when the entire human race can say that humans are a giant family, then would there ever be true peace (until the reptilians come)

Whenever I would mention the shooting in Las Vegas to someone, I get the same response said in a bored tone: "Yeah, that was some crazy shit.", and that's it. They immediately forget about it and change the subject.

I work at a blue collar business and no one really talks about it that much. If they do everyone kind of figures it will take a few days for people to figure everything out. Like 9/11 or Sandy Hook.

they will have to provide answers or all trust will be lost.

The fact that there's any trust still around and wasn't already lost long ago is I think a big part of the problem. No more trust worthy of being given to the establishment. At all.

I think we've moved on already.

Nothing on the front page.

Nope everyone will forget and carry on

Https://www.voteflux.org/

If I may add to your list.

link?

Except, it's actually true. We have entered into the age of Aquarius. The Age of Enlightenment. The "golden" age that Mayans and other ancient civilizations knew would happen.

It's been talked about for a long time because it's been prophesied for a long time.

Looking out into the world only proves this. Everyone's awakening from a deep deep slumber and starting to ask questions and wake up.

There's more turmoil, strife, anger, as people bring things to the surface we have held down within us collectively for so long.

Things are changing and we are entering a new age. Change is always occurring, and we are walking forth into a new age of truth

Let's not use the more than 1 shooter as 1 reason why this is a conspiracy. Eventually they maybe able to debunk that notion later and it will be an easy attempt to discredit any other conspiracies. I don't believe there was more than 1 shooter but I do believe there is a bigger story here.