What are people thinking was the cover-up/mastermind behind it?
15 2017-10-07 by CeeDubzz
I don't buy the story we're being told. But I'm curious what people are thinking actually happened and people's theories as to the real story. Would make sense for the far left to be behind it to push gun control, but what do you all think? Post away.
47 comments
1 Blend_Master 2017-10-07
Mossad
1 Yoni_verse 2017-10-07
So in depth
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
Right lmao I was hoping for a theory with reasoning.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
Don't know why you are downvoted.
1 NEPXDer 2017-10-07
Because "the Jews did this" with zero evidence is something we are all tired of hearing.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
But it is likely. Being "tired of it" just sorta shows that the narrative is working.
Israel is an obvious consideration. If its "tiresome", blame that on Israel pulling so much passive-aggressive bullshit, not on the honest folks that want to bring it up.
1 NEPXDer 2017-10-07
Oh it likely is and it's obvious and yet none of you give proof?
Lol so just double down "the Jews did this!" with zero proof, I'm sure that will convince all of us who don't automatically just assign all blame to Jews.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
Sorry. I meant that there is no Zionist faction, and if there was such a thing, they are entirely benevolent.
1 engles_all_the_way 2017-10-07
Something I've not seen much speculation on is a mob link. High rolling gambler, money laundering, guns, prostitution... all natural mob territory. Indiscriminate mass murder, not so much but who knows? Maybe the guy wants to fuck the city he feels fucked him.
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
I saw a theory about a major casino heist which sounds kinda similar. The mass shooting was the major distraction and it makes sense with the claims of shooters in so many other hotels. But they won't make it public because of it giving ideas to more people.
1 Mickybagabeers 2017-10-07
That sounds jooocy. How much would the take be? Millions? Multi-millions? But if that were the case, why not just detonate a bomb closeby, or shoot indiscriminately. You still cause the same chaos without such high needless casualties.
Over 500 shot, that guy wanted blood. If this was agenda pushing, couldn't a magazine or three fired off, with only several deaths have the same effect?
Is this just TPTB wanting to keep the weight of panic and fear in the people's everyday lives?
This one is just too crazy. So many open ends.
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
It is crazy I agree. But the more shots and deaths the more distraction. It's just a theory. It does make sense though. If you heard the police scanner there was supposedly shooters in multiple other hotels. Though I feel if they were robbing them people would have seen or there would have been casualties in said hotels. Who knows man. We'll never know the truth lol
1 fuufnfr 2017-10-07
Yeah, this looks like the cabal factions fighting. Attacking the faction that the mob are linked to. That mob faction are a big part of the group that got Trump in which seriously messed up plans of the other faction.
1 therealsd 2017-10-07
I’m swimming against the current here and thinking Steve paddock is being grossly underestimated. We know for a fact he was a smart, successful man and I think we can agree the average guy can’t accomplish what he has. Independent Self made millionaire who managed to stay rich says a lot. I’m still not buying the multiple shooter speculation either, the would have been able to detonate the explosives finishing the plan if there were accomplices. The fact that he killed him self because he thought he was out of time with the security guard there thinking it was the police says a lot. He panicked didn’t get to finish.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
What if he was working for the good guys?
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-07
He was on a team and thought they'd all move together. Theteam betrayed him and left him as the lone wolf.
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1 usdsean 2017-10-07
As with 911 there are so many moving parts that we will never be able to pin down just one. As for me I think a grey escaped from Dreamland.
1 PoppaSynth 2017-10-07
I honestly have so much but am tired of explaining it all the time. Plenty of theories in my comment history if youre interested
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
I'll check it out.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
I think the factions at the top are at war, the plan was to kill 10k, and the third faction thwarted the plan. Now, they are all busy covering up what hand they played in it and they completely undervalued how powerful and resourceful the proles are at calling out their shit.
I hate it that people died, but I'm grateful that TPTB are a mess and are bringing themselves down with their own rotten karma.
1 fuufnfr 2017-10-07
Looks like one faction attacking the mob linked faction that helped get Trump in.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
"The mob". At least they aren't satanic, child-sacrificing spirit cookers. "The mob" is sort of like the "gin-runners". In a weird way, they are sticking up for us.
1 fuufnfr 2017-10-07
Yeah, there's a certain faction of the cabal that are not international, they're based in the USA, and so they are at odds with the factions who want to sacrifice the USA for globalism.
1 litre_cola9 2017-10-07
He was setting up a deal to sell these guns and thousands of rounds to a contact ultimately tied to ISIS. I think the hotel is providing a safe place to do business, and the FBI is tacitly monitoring the deals. Which is why they are so terrified of the leaks.
FBI trying to figure out how to paint the ISIS picture without exposing that they monitor deals like this all the time to try and track the weaponry. This is the second time that scheme has led to American deaths. They have to be terrified.
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
Good theory but why did he end up killing people instead of making the sale? And what was the other scheme that you say is the same as this one? I'm honestly curious, I'm not attacking your theory at all.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
How does that make sense? 23 guns?? Ammo you could buy at Wal-Mart? And bring along a sledgehammer to bust out windows? And tripods, for an arms deal??
And why choose a high-profile location like that? And why the thermolite in his car if it was just a gun deal??
Not buying it.
1 litre_cola9 2017-10-07
You can't buy any of that shit without raising eyebrows unless you are a normal everyday red-blooded white guy
That's why they needed Paddock. Why the high profile location? Seriously? Max exposure. Tannerite? What, a guy can't make a little extra dough selling some boom boom powder on the side? IDK
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
I know a lot of average, middle-aged white guys and none of them are buying it. A few of them are really cozy with guns and vegas, even this particular hotel, and they aren't buying a word of it.
There is no way this guy was an evil genius and completely retarded at the same time. You don't take a sledgehammer to a gun deal.
1 Analiator 2017-10-07
Why would these people risk (although small) getting caught and being on camera while doing that transaction. When they can just do it somewhere else.... makes no sense.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
It absolutely makes no sense. The intent was to kill people, not to sell some guns.
1 litre_cola9 2017-10-07
There are no cameras on the floors and in the rooms, it's perfect. They also do business with tacit support of the FBI, who is more interested in tracking the weapons than stopping their proliferation.
1 Analiator 2017-10-07
Why take unnecessary risk of moving those guns into the inner city. Why not in a remote place? or some garage? or abadonned place? They would get caught on the elevator cameras and lobby. How did they escape? And why the fuck would they then shoot a bunch of people for no reason. Those are some retarded criminals.
1 DennisBroadway 2017-10-07
Despite what the media says the DDM4 and Colt AR15's are not valued at $5-10,000.00 a piece. Closer to $1,500-$2,000 each. Now figure in black market value or used gun value which cuts the value almost in half. We don't know the full extent of the arsenal but assuming he could sell them for $1000 each, he would only really be making around $23,000.00 at best. Seems like a lot of work for little payoff considering he was a gambler and it's Vegas. $23,000 is a lot of money to most, myself included but in Vegas it's not considered much. Not to mention that I doubt bump stocks are a hot commodity on the black market.
1 Facts_About_Cats 2017-10-07
Same people behind the JFK assassination, I think. CIA and so on. The purpose being to send Trump a warning that they can easily assassinate him if they want.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-07
The big question is, why? Are they really this upset about Trump? What is Trump doing that has their panties in such a messy bunch?
They must be really bugged that their plan went awry. Who fucked it up?
1 Facts_About_Cats 2017-10-07
Chuck Schumer said in an interview that if Trump didn't back off, they'd get back at him "six ways to Sunday".
1 Jordapan 2017-10-07
Steve's an undercover Agent who turned.
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
CIA/FBI? Turned to? ISIS? Or just went crazy?
1 litre_cola9 2017-10-07
Turned ISIS (through Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines)
Groupvphoto shows him and his handler looking at their probable ISIS guards in a group photo showing Marilou and others smiling at the camera: https://i.redd.it/8i67ilrv5hqz.jpg
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
Looks like friends out for dinner to me lol
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-10-07
Mossad and SA.
1 PoofartChampion 2017-10-07
there isnt really a "far left" that fits in to this scenario, certainly not to push gun control.
im going for the sting to catch an isis cell and it went wrong or it actually was just him for whatever reason
1 DeceptiveFallacy 2017-10-07
Here's a simple non-false flag theory: Paddock was an entertainment provider to the Saudis upstairs. Making sure the untouchable upper class of a society far away from any western values were having a good time in Las Vegas, whatever their passions. This time a couple of doped up princes decided to have some fun in the hotel instead of waiting to go firing some guns and blow some stuff up in the morning. Allahu snack bar on a crowd of infidels while his posse were dealing with the situation best they could: suiciding Paddock, pouring a continuous stream of 200 rounds down the hallway to make sure no one dared peaking the corner while they made their escape up through the emergency stairs located right outside the suite to the right, and finally by heli from the roof of the Mandalay to the next door airport where the jet was being warmed up.
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
Very well thought out and sourced. Good theory
1 DeceptiveFallacy 2017-10-07
Also fits the money laundering through gambling. What I actually believe happened I don't even know. The one thing that seems off with the official story is the lack of motive.
I would be surprised the time a tragedy isn't being used for political reasons so nothing is really off with that.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-07
And then the shooting at the palace today
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
I saw a theory about a major casino heist which sounds kinda similar. The mass shooting was the major distraction and it makes sense with the claims of shooters in so many other hotels. But they won't make it public because of it giving ideas to more people.
1 CeeDubzz 2017-10-07
Right lmao I was hoping for a theory with reasoning.
1 fuufnfr 2017-10-07
Yeah, this looks like the cabal factions fighting. Attacking the faction that the mob are linked to. That mob faction are a big part of the group that got Trump in which seriously messed up plans of the other faction.