I own guns and I absolutely hate the "They're coming for our guns!!" Crowd.

No they're fucking not coming for your guns.

Got a link? I'd love to peruse them and find out how they don't apply to me

I could go line by line but seriously I'm fine with every one of those laws...

High capacity magazines, bump stocks, tenarite, 3 day waiting periods, funding CDC research into gun violence... sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

And no I'm not trolling, I sincerely have no problem with any of this.

Increments, my friend. Increments.

It's a cultural thing. Not an immediate thing.

They are conditioning the future generations to despise gun ownership.

Give it...20...maybe 30 more years...if you own a gun...you will be synonymous with psychopath.

Because by this point, the media will have successfully convinced that anyone that takes an interest in guns or gun ownership are the same people that going postal and firing off guns in public places for no good reason. One patsy after another until it finally seeks in that guns = bad.

I'm calling it now.

I don't own guns.

But yes, it absolutely appears to me that "they" are coming for your guns.

Not only that, but obviously those in power are interested in (and able to act on) disarming those not in power.

What, you think they aren't, out of the goodness of their heart?

Bitch, please.

interesting to think about - if the characters are ignored for a moment and the big picture observed, you see massive power and financial concentration, a population increasingly expressing its dissatisfaction (countless examples since 2008 and NAFTA), wealthy buying panic rooms/shelters, bill of rights stripped, stock market soaring while rates artificially suppressed, gov spending like Monarchs - its like they see an uprising looming and don’t want pesky guns shooting at their armored vehicles, drones, neurally networked cooperative surveillance robots. Hmm

This won't make me popular here, but honestly guys if any of you think governments would do something as risky as a false flag mass shooting over fucking gun laws you are brain dead.

I know a lot of you struggle with logic, but the US government does not need to take away your guns, your police force is like a military and could already crush any dissent.

It absolutely wouldn't be worth the risk when the potential reward doesn't really make a difference, your government controls you and your guns haven't stopped it, if anything letting you have them makes you all delusional enough to think you have some sort of freedom from tyranny.

The the government would never do anything risky, immoral or dangerous or anything like that.

What a bunch of stupid idiots we are for thinking they might!

Congrats on missing my point entirely and posting 3 irrelevant things.

Like I said, brain dead.

Cant decide whether you are a shill or a troll?

Honestly hilarious, it's like you all follow a carbon copy version of the same argument techniques.

Make bizarre Irrelevant comparisons to other conspiracies that aren't even remotely comparable.

Ignore any flaws in your logic that have been pointed out to you.

When you're challenged accuse the other person of shilling or trolling and don't address any of the ratonal arguments.

Beyond stupid.

Like many on Reddit, I can't fucking stand people like you.

there is a solution for these treason troopers.

Look what sub reddit you're in. If you expect logic or evidence go to world news. Even there good luck. Yeah no government would do anything such as a false flag.

While I'll agree that the other user didn't post the most relevant info regarding the matter, I will also agree with the point they're trying to make. Were I the other user, I would have linked Operation Northwoods.

TL;DR: The US government was willing to commit false flag attacks against American citizens in the 1960s. No doubt, they'd be just as willing today.

Your claim that the gov would never do something like this is completely incorrect. Now, I'm not saying that Vegas was a false flag, but that the US gov is certainly willing and more than able to orchestrate attacks of this scale.

If Vegas was a false flag, I believe the purpose was to push for tighter security/surveillance regulations. I don't hear as many people as I would imagine talking about the guns. I do hear people asking questions about the lack of security footage, though.

Whether false flag or not, if the government can use Vegas to pass laws to increase surveillance (with a little gun control sprinkled in), they'd be very pleased.

Gun laws are not the end game.

If our full police force did turn against the populace, our citizens are more numerous and better armed than the police, there would be no more police left after day one.

They can't run forever...

It may seem minor but any laws regarding reporting of stolen firearms are the most dangerous of them all. The Liberals quietly slipped this into Canadian law recently, and it is the first move of a vicious trap.

Note how the penalty for not reporting a lost or stolen firearms is extreme. All they have to do is casually ban a specific firearm and the trap is sprung. All they have to do then is knock on your door, and you have no choice but to hand it over. Any attempt to conceal it and claim you don't have it for whatever reason results in getting slammed with failure to report it - with devastating consequences.

You can expect widescale magazine size limits as a result of this. Here in Canada a semi-auto rifle can only hold 5 rounds, with a couple of odd loopholes to exploit. The RCMP has carefully fought the Liberals all the way through this, and would not agree that a welded plug was necessary. A rivet in the mag is the accepted standard, which was a triumphant compromise for gun owners.

Remember folks, the U.N. wants serial numbers on every cartridge. Hilary would have pushed that agenda hard had she won the election. Don't let any bills pass that talk about limitations on ammo storage, that will be their next target.

Bass pro and cabellas merged or one bought out the other right?

The the government would never do anything risky, immoral or dangerous or anything like that.

What a bunch of stupid idiots we are for thinking they might!

Gun laws are not the end game.

If our full police force did turn against the populace, our citizens are more numerous and better armed than the police, there would be no more police left after day one.