/r/NeoLiberal, a subreddit that pushes establishment politics and is just 4% the size of this subreddit, has a daily chat thread that boasts thousands of comments. It's the most obvious gathering of shills outside of /r/redacted.

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Redacted is that another name for the r/politics or what? Tried to find it once but couldnt

I cant find redacted, Why?

R/politics lol

If you're not joking, the site admins stated that you can no longer directly link to /r/Politics if you mean to criticize it or call attention to the fact that it has long since been overtaken by shill accounts. If I remember, they threatened /r/The_Donald over their frequent mention of the subreddit, leading to the slang title /r/redacted.

I actuallly thought it was politics, but I wasnt sure.

It was about two years ago. Now it's an abomination.

I just went and checked it again. Abomination is the correct word. Some of those accounts are getting hundreds of thousands of karma in months

just as bad as a three-peat comment that gets upvotes on all three? haha is this real life? /s

Trump bad(+5.K upvotes, 5x gilded)

Just like during the primary:

Hillary bad(+5.K upvotes, 5x gilded)

Yeah but that's at least a true statement

So do accounts in t_d... why aren’t you calling out those?

I just went and checked it again. Abomination is the correct word. Some of those accounts are getting hundreds of thousands of karma in months

How many times did you check?

Haha.

I just went and checked it again. Abomination is the correct word. Some of those accounts are getting hundreds of thousands of karma in months

Aw

Liberals can't run this website, how the he'll do they expect to run the nation?

Funnily, a republican controlled government can't get shit done either so maybe we just let everyone be people and start demanding our rights finally.

Do you believe you have free will?

Of course I believe in free will. I've learned much from Sam Harris.

I learned the opposite from Kurt Vonnegut.

Harris is of the silly belief that we're victims of cause and effect, which is oviously true to some extent.

If free will doesn't exist in humans, can it exist with any consciousness?

can it exist with any consciousness?

probably not one that came about from evolution. The will of any consciousness that is the result of evolution will be dominated by evolutionary pressures and cannot be meaningfully called "free".

I think you're misreading Sam Harris.

What does that actually mean though? "Demanding our rights." What are you going to do?

Demand my rights with millions of other people? You want in?

What, specifically, does that entail?

I think the most effective strategy would be a tax revolt. It would have a very scary destabilizing effect on establishment types, and would speak to all manner of normal people in the county. Liberal who hates trump and the tax shenanigans him and his ilk get up to- good, stop paying your own taxes then. Mainstream conservative tired off getting bent over every year by uncle same- good stop paying. Leftist who hates the system, constitutionalist who hates IRS- good, both of you stop paying.

After some turbulence- if they call our bluff- we'd have the leverage to demand certain things that have vast majority support. Things like: no more "corporations are people," no more banker bailouts, no more wars of aggression or illegal mass surveillance.

So.... Telling our employers to not pay taxes? Have fun getting fired. Refusing to pay sales tax? Have not getting your thing.

That's an obtuse response and you know it. I meant individuals refusing to file federal income tax.

You're aware that will hurt blacks, latinos and fat, blue haired, unemployable women more than anyone else right? Taxes pay for welfare. You're hurting the very people you rabidly defend every day.

"Rabidly defend"? Who/what are you talking about?

It would hurt everyone, as corporate welfare keeps many a "respectable" industry afloat as well. Without exercising our leverage though, I believe the populace will continue to get pitted against itself and abused.

"Rabidly defend"? Who/what are you talking about?

The feckless, useless and lazy :)

You know noting about me, fuck off

I didn't.................But I do after that response.

How shocking to discover that you've never had a job and don't know how tax collection works. Who could have possibly predicted this

Excuse me? Never had a job? How in the fuck are you pretending to know that about me?

You're very, very wrong btw.

Did a child write this?

Wow the projection is strong here- you're the one insulting strangers on the internet instead of having a conversation or debate about the topic.

A child wrote this ^

Lol

This was written by a child ^

Why are you unaware that your employer pays your taxes for you?

Organize.

They just passed a budget though :((((((

How cute. You still think partisanship is a thing. Time to get over your left vs right fight and understand which side you should be on. It's not the left. It's not the right. It's the side of the people.

And BTW this site runs just fine and makes a profit so I'm not sure what you're getting at

You think partisanship is not a thing?? You're definitely an insane liberal, almost as bad as republican.

Why does that make him a liberal?

Neoliberal pushes GOP politics?

Absolutely, and Neocons push Neolib politics, especially their war waging, both big fans of

Look up "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein. Goes really deep into the history of neoliberal/neoconservative fuckery in the Reagan/Bushes/Clinton administrations.

Naomi Klein cant even get basic facts right. She actually made the argument tianamen squares was anti-liberalization.

unironically believing Naomi Klein

Oh come on this should be beneath even you guys

Not possible.

Are you under the illusion that there's a difference between the two?

It's not going to help the t_d 2.0 talking point when people use memes straight out of t_d.

Both subreddits (t_d and con) have the same anti-establishment agenda so using the same memes is pretty predictable. Both also hate both the GOP and DNC and the elite cabal. The only difference between the two is t_d won't admit Trump is part of that cabal (but that's expected for a fan-boy sub).

t_d only pretends to hate the GOP to further the narrative that trump is an outsider and that he isn't a real politician. The elections showed pretty clearly that they all just voted GOP right down the whole ballot

You aren't wrong.

Both subreddits (t_d and con) have the same anti-(((establishment))) agenda

FTFY

"Establishment politics" Why would neoliberal push GOP politics?

Because the neolibs and neocons are two sides of the same coin.

Neoconservative = establishment foreign policy; neoliberal = establishment economic policy. They fit together bet neatly, and most prominent US politicians are both. Neoliberal doesn't mean "new and liberal" -- it basically refers to the economic views that came to dominate the US political establishment with Ronald Reagan, and the UK's with Margaret Thatcher. Deregulation, austerity, privatization, outsourcing, etc. -- Neoliberalism.

They're effectively the same thing.

All Neoconservatives are Neoliberal, not all neoliberals are Neoconservatives.

They're all Establishment pieces of shit to me.

Not sure about that- the economic policies of neoliberals are dependent upon the foreign policy of neocons. Think: central banking, globalism, petrodollar hegemony.

The first two are just mainstream economics, the science where smart people use math to see what works and what doesn't.

With social programs to take care of the disadvantaged.

Neolibs and Neocons are interchangeable, all war hawks who want to establish neo-feudalism. They are the establishment and they hate you and I

This but unironically

This but ironically

You mean you’re not a drone loving war hawk?

Only on Tuesdays

Ayyyy

I don't hate you fam

Did a child write this?

Seems pretty clear to me.

This is true. I was changed out for someone else that is now fucking my wife.

Tell me about it

Haha! Awesome.

Am Neoliberal shill, I don't hate you, I love and welcome you. Everyone is welcome at R/Neoliberal

Oooh fuck this hurts though

Pro Hillary, Soros

Not establishment politics

There are tonnes of these subs. And the reason is because smaller subs are easier to push to the front page. They need proportionally less votes compared to bigger subs.

Add to that the DNC shills who keep r/all on auto-refresh and upvote anything pro-Hillary, and the fewer votes needed for smaller subs cause them to skyrocket far faster than anything T_D can do (add to that that the admins reset vote counts for anything that goes against the socialist agenda and you can see why this is such a cucked site)

Did a child write this?

Dismantle what was said.

What does that mean? It reads like an immature child wrote it

Fuck off with your ad hominems

Someone set us up the bomb!

One time that sub got to the front page of r/all and I went into the thread made a really stupid comment, the thread was getting like 50 comments a minute.

Well I was immediately dogpiled by about 10 users including 2 moderators, and noticed that this was also happening with everyone else making stupid comments too.

That sub is owned by Super PAC there was once an Evidence third posted that most their links on their side bar link to some super pack website. Not to mention all the Epic maymays same Forest it's all hell.

Well maybe a really stupid comment was rightly noticed and reported because of how dumb it was?

I believe that if this what didn't happen all within a minute me posting it and everyone else who is also posting that kind of stuff.

It looks fine to me. Just active in some of those threads.

I got banned for calling David Brock the liberal Steve bannon minus the nuts

Lol

That sub doesn't ban people unless they spam or break reddit TOS though

Oh yeah totally mmmhmmm yup totally yup

what?

I agree πŸ˜‰

No, you didn't.

Uh wat

No, you didn't get banned for calling David Brock the liberal Steve bannon minus the nuts

Says who

Me. I would think that would be obvious by the fact that I just wrote it.

And you are who exactly?

u/AlloftheEethp

Ah nobody gotcha

Right. Which doesn't change the fact that no, you did not get banned for posting w/e you wrote above.

Says who? Nobody, right. So why keep taking the time to type that?

Just making it clear everyone knows you're lying, including you.

πŸ˜—

Hitler was a socialist

This, but ironically.

Did that hit too close to home?

I don't think you understand what neoliberal means.

You got dogpiled because we hang out there all day long. It's basically a chatroom that no one ever leaves.

Ever think about getting a job? New liberals aren't going to give you free shit like Comrade Bernie would.

I have a job, friend. Also we hate Bernie over in our sub. Can't wait for that obstinate old man to ride off to his third lake house.

we hang out there while we're at our jobs bro. Its called working in an office.

This is my job. I make good money doing PR for the Open Society Foundations online.

how dumb it was? One way censorship is created, can't debate topic just ignore, real healthy /s

DAE free speech = my ignorance is as good as your knowledge?

It's called debate, your inions vs mine.

yah but sometimes opinions are dumb tho.

If you can't elaborate on dumb perhaps you're just projecting.

you're just projecting.

so you agree sometimes opinions are dumb

Reading and comprehension is beyond your grasp.

okay you want me to be serious.

/r/neoliberal doesn't ban people and doesn't delete comments unless they're literally like doxxing or advocating violence or saying "it's okay that hitler/stalin killed millions of people" or hentai or against reddit's rules.

we don't censor dude. though sometimes people whose only mode of reasoning is cherry-picking and confirmation bias get really annoying. but it's okay we downvote them.

All these replies for this tripe? Modding is hard.

no u.

It's only a debate if you know what you're talking about.

Can you post the evidence for them being owned by a SuperPAC? I've never heard of that.

I'll see if I can find some information when I get off work.

Can't wait for this ground shattering investigative journalism

Remindme! 6 hours

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So... we're waiting

Spoiler: it isn't

We do have a SuperPAC though

Extra spoiler: you can't own a subreddit.

It's the other way around. The sub started a super PAC. Or rather, a user on the sub started a SuperPAC as a part of a charity drive goal. Either way, it's pretty clear that the sub became active before the super PAC was created.

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i see you've noticed our salt-mining operations. impressive, isn't it?

If you've never dogpiled on idiots in a thread that reaches the front page, you're really missing out on one of life's simple pleasures.

Do you know how Uber surge pricing works? It's like that when we hit /all. Everyone is over eager to collect on that bonus

I was probably one of them. I bought my daughter a bicycle for her birthday with that check.

I unironically $hill for Hill

How's it feel having lost despite having the (((globalists))), MSM, and Hollywood backing you? How's it feel that someone who isn't an establishment figure served her ass back to you on a platter?

Cry me a river, kek.

It makes me feel that I was right the whole time. Hilldawg would have been a fantastic prez.

You drank the kool aid, hope you enjoy Bill's dick.

Are you sure that you don't mean Soros?

It's because we're Kool doods 😎

You guys really like talking about penises.

How would that even work?

I'm a (((neoliberal))) shill and voted for her, but she would NOT have been a fantastic pres. A decent pres, sure, but strangled by a Republican led house and senate into being unable to pass much of her legislation at all. Maybe her administration would see some better luck with a good result in the midterms, but she'd hardly have been a popular or highly effective president.

That's not even to mention the email controversy--the FBI recommending an investigation wasn't exactly baseless. While it was definitely blown out of proportion by news media (especially relative to equally shady Trump scandals), it wasn't a load of smoke either, and that investigation would have bogged down her presidency the entire way.

Obviously we can't hop over to the timeline where Hillary won AND use a time machine to figure out how her presidency would go, but I don't think she would have been a very popular president, I don't think she would have passed most of her biggest campaign promises, and I don't think she would have won reelection.

At worst she would have been Obama and at best she would of been one of the GOATs. It was a no-lose situation

Actual gut laughter. Thanks.

My extremely technical analysis of a potential HRC presidency is one similar to GHWB - a one term, competent, but uninspiring presidency.

Agreed. I think that like GHWB, she'd go down as a mid-tier president. Known to most Americans as the first woman to be president, but not particularly notable, with her defining ideology and achievements being largely forgotten 60 years or so down the road.

What is her defining ideology?

Gender and racial equality, lower cost of education, speech restrictions, improved access to healthcare, preservation of Obama legislation, child slavery, free trade, a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and abolition of suffrage.

Those might be her campaign positions and probably "public" positions at that. But that's not her ideology. What is she passionate about? I have no idea. To me it seems like she is passionate about whatever is politically advantageous at the time.

She is against the type of healthcare that improves access the most, she isn't a champion of free speech, she wanted to bring superpredators to heel, and has attacked the many of the accused sexually harrased female victims of her husband. I don't see her being passionate about any of those things and to be honest I don't understand what makes people passionate supporters of Hillary (if there are any).

A defining ideology should be specific and tangible and obvious.

she wants to bring superpredators to heel

Kinky

I believe Republicans in house as of now would favor her over Trump. McConnell and crew like Hillary.

Ehh... I don't really know if I agree with that. They can get along with Hillary, but it would have likely been more of the same gridlock that we saw with Obama and a Republican congress. The only things they really agreed on were trade and general foreign policy.

They live her so much they had endless hearings to get rid of her?

They can't ignore request by all members. Obviously nothing came of it. Hillary was sloppy. The whole private server was stupid. She is guilty of those hearings.

You think a dude who wants to cut taxes this the elite is not establishment? He was born into golden slippers and will expand them for every elite fuckboi in the room

yeah that's right, go back to sucking hillary's dick. She's never been a two-faced politician who lies just to get into office or anything...

Doesn't it bother you that she's a career criminal involved in drug, arms, and human trafficking, massive charity fraud, pay-to-play, dozens of murders, and likely treason?

Nah

Not really tbh

Well, I've always said shills were subhuman scum who deserve no respect, but I appreciate the confirmation.

Well, I've always said conspiracy theorists were people who deserve love and kindness and they're just mad cause they can't get laid. But I appreciate the confirmation.

Heh heh

Doesn't it bother you that she's a career criminal involved in drug, arms, and human trafficking, massive charity fraud, pay-to-play, dozens of murders, and likely treason?

Oh my goodness, I never heard of such claims before. I will stop supporting her posthaste as soon as you provide a study confirming that the majority of academics in this discipline support those findings.

I wish Hillary was as powerful as you all seem to think she is

The fact that she hasn't been thrown in prison for several consecutive life sentences shows that she is relatively powerful. She has deep ties to the US deep state; hopefully they'll soon realize she's a huge liability and will throw her to the wolves like Weinstein.

Which crimes exactly?

Drug, arms, and human trafficking. Dozens of murders. Selling influence to foreign entities. The largest charity fraud of all time. Pedophilia. Likely treason. Oh, and improper handling of classified info.

Can I get some sources on those?

Im sure you could if you dug around a bit. It's not exactly new news.

thanks for the source

I didn't say I was going to do your work for you, brah.

k, brah

I ain't your brah, brah.

Is this that bit from South Park?

It’s your work to prove your point

Well, if I gave the slightest damn what you ... people ... thought, maybe.

You clearly do since you've made all of these comments. But it's pointless if you're not going to actually back it up.

I'm here to talk about conspiracies, not educate the youth.

If you say so. Comes across as you're too lazy or you don't even have proof though. Not that you care what anyone else thinks.

Cool story brah.

Speaking of Crooked Hillary, why doesn't this get more exposure here?

I thought our armed forces would raise hell but it really doesn't seem like they give a shit about equipping the people killing their brothers in arms with American weapons.


Misprision of Treason

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2382 - not telling anyone if you know about it is Misprision of Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50a/usc_sec_50a_00000003----000-.html - aiding directly or indirectly the enemies of the State

For any person in the United States, except with the license of the President, granted to such person, or to the enemy, or ally of enemy, as provided in this Act [sections 1 to 6, 7 to 39, and 41 to 44 of this Appendix] to trade, or attempt to trade, either directly or indirectly, with, to, or from, or for, or on account of, or on behalf of, or for the benefit of, any other person, with knowledge or reasonable cause to believe that such other person is an enemy or ally of enemy, or is conducting or taking part in such trade, directly or indirectly, for, or on account of, or on behalf of, or for the benefit of, an enemy or ally of enemy.

List of officially recognized terrorist organizations: https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

10/8/1999 -al-Qa’ida (AQ)

Essentially, the executive branch Knew that the hundred billion dollars of weapons they sold to Saudi and Qatar were being used to fund / train / arm ISIS and Al Qaeda. Which is knowingly giving direct/indirect aid and comfort to federally recognized enemies of the state. This has absolutely nothing to do with intent.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774


www.dailycaller.com/2016/12/10/democratic-congresswoman-says-u-s-is-funding-and-arming-isis/

β€œThe CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda,” Gabbard said. Gabbard’s claim is backed up by a speech former secretary of state Hillary Clinton delivered to Goldman Sachs. Clinton said Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates are funding Jihadists in Syria.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/16/hillary-told-goldman-sachs-america-arming-countries-that-fund-jihadists/

Clinton here definitively says that Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar are funding Syrian jihadists. She seems to suggest that Turkey, a NATO member, is helping out groups in Syria, though it is unclear exactly what she means or who they’d be funding.

This wouldn’t be the first reference in the Wikileaks release of Clinton saying Gulf state partners support Islamic terrorists. In a leaked 2014 email to Podesta, Hillary wrote that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are both funding and giving logistical support to ISIS and other extremist Sunni groups.

(Sorry for the Caller but it's not like this would be WaPo material.)

Gabbard was on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and Armed Services Committee and Intelligence Committee and former assistant chair of the DNC. She's qualified to make this statement.


You can see Senate Committee assignments for the 112th Congress Republican Senators here:

http://thehill.com/images/stories/blogs/goplist.pdf

And this one for the 113th Senate

http://media.cq.com/pub/committees/index.php?chamber=senate

make note of where you see Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Marco Rubio - the most outspoken anti-Trump GOP senators.


This last link is more of a recognition of facts supporting what Gabbard was saying.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-ends-covert-cia-program-to-arm-anti-assad-rebels-in-syria-a-move-sought-by-moscow/2017/07/19/b6821a62-6beb-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html?utm_term=.a014d91ed66c


Incidently, the banking regulations page on Cornell Law and a number of other Constitution websites are omitting pages describing banking regulations as they pertain to trading with the enemy:

www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/95a

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_with_the_Enemy_Act_of_1917?wprov=sfla1

And...?

And what? Someone claimed Clinton committed treason, someone then asked for a source, I shared sources supporting misprision of treason. What more do you want?

No, someone claimed she committed treason, and you posted some links and pasted the text to non-official versions of some statutes. Then you shared some information about al Qaeda and ISIS, an HRC speech, and Senate assignments. Finally, you seem to suggest the Cornell Law School Legal Information Institute is removing portions of applicable statutes because reasons.

Yes. Those links support the argument. The links to the Constitution do have the official text unless they've been altered. And yes, they have... reasons. They give those reasons. I was just saying "some reason". Funny how you deligitimize Cornell in one sentence then hold them up in another.

me too thanks

$hillaryCoin is up big this month.

Why would shills spend time in a discussion thread on their own forum, talking to each other? Wouldn't that be a huge waste of time?

Lurkers see it and believe many people think like that, swaying their opinion.

I'm betting very few people have even heard of that subreddit... until the OP came along, that is.

/r/neoliberal has been on the frontpage a few times, mostly through circlejerk submissions like any other small sub.

https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/top/?sort=top&t=year

Those are the ones that made it to the Frontpage of Reddit, but Reddit is a pretty-hard progressive site, with the support for Sanders. So Neoliberal is a political epithet that isn't welcome around other places. Neolibs are to the progressives, corporatist shills. Which maybe true, but I think they're just Blue Dogs.

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The one major time it really hit the top was the delayed Trump to Bernie gif, far as I can recall.

There was also that guy who promised he would get Angela Merkel's face tattooed on his ass if his post got 10,000 upvotes (he delivered).

See, shilling for the (((globalists))) never had to be boring, and it pays well.

Very respectable

Reddit wouldn't be so progressive if it wasn't for blatant censorship of righteaning subs and views, such as on wodnews and news and politics

They are moderates. From Kasich to Obama on the political spectrum in the US.

I've heard of it

That's what I'm saying, people come in spamming an obscure sub and then people trash them while conveniently delinking the same sub?

I mean come on, /r/neolibrul

Shit writes itself.

Lol ur dumb

You are truly the greatest thinker of our time.

That says a lot about everyone else

Go back to TMOR, you'd fit right in (and get hundreds of upvotes)

Lol what kind of loser cares about imaginary internet points?

Bingo.

heaven forbid a community of like-minded people talk to each other

Gets them karma so they don't seems like shills when they flood other subreddits

It's really more about the false sense of community, making our ideology seem more popular than it might be otherwise.

Kind of off topic but check out /r/veganrecipies and the people who post there. I've seen two different shills/bots who used that sub to get karma to come act real here. Maybe it's a sub similar to neoliberalism?

How do you know that's why they post there?

not all, just certain ones abuse it because it's easy to get karma without any content that you create.

So you've hypothesized they want karma, which never happens on Reddit! /s

without any content. they do it to other subs that follow the "not content you actually create rule", like pics, funny, gifs, and for some odd reason, veganrecipes.

Br all you have to do is see that they pisted here and you will know. Kind of like spammers and the celebs sub or aww

It's all part of everything under the Eye of Soros.

Its our safe space from populists.

Dammit you gave away the secret of Our Father $oro$!

PRAISE DADDY SOROS!

He pays me in emerald encrusted dollar bills

He just gives me a tap on my back, and says, good job son, I'm proud of you.

His money must be running out, with all of that paying for protesters everywhere and their dogs.

Soros can't run out of money, silly. Because of globalism

All hail the one true father - globalism!!!

Dammit you gave away the secret of Our Father $oro$((($oro$)))!

Cmon man you're not even trying.

Why do you hate Obama and FDR?

Why do you hate ChΓ©?

I dunno, he sells a ton of tshirts though...

I don't. Obama was a populist and a neoliberalism. They aren't mutually exclusive. However if you convince liberals to demonize populism then you no longer have to pretend to be the party of the people because for some reason that is bad.

This, but unironically.

This but twice as ironically.

Its just upvoted and commented on to move it to the front page.

Of the subreddit? Its stickied

Losers telling other losers they're doing a good job. Gets morale up to come troll worthwhile subs and discussions.

Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!

/r/conspiracy and its sister Sanders/Trump subs in a nutshell.

You guys can come visit. We're usually on our best behavior.

Why do you hate the global poor?

Interesting. You'd think the good folks at r/thedonald, who act like they're so concerned about Soros shills and globalism, would be more concerned about r/neoliberal.

Kinda weird that they've been so silent about it tbh. :/

No they just get BTFO whenever they visit

Exactly. Weird that the globalists they hate so much are just one subreddit away.

t_d is mostly just bots, and can't actually do anything against an active userbase that actually know what they are talking about. They stop by all the time, but can't actually defend their positions, so they leave some racist copypastas and leave.

Guess that's why they're able to take over the Sanders subs.

It is easy for us to get thousands of comments with all our massive funding from (((Soros)))

There are dozens of us!

You tend to post more when you are getting paid to do it. My Soros checks are the only reason I was able to make rent last month

Honest blue collar work rite there.

Yup. We like to pretend that we are all coastal elites, but neoliberals live in the heartland and coal country as well.

Well if coal mining paid better we wouldn't have to $hill.

Might as well flee a dying industry to work elsewhere.

The sun and the wind was invented by (((democrats))) to kill the fossil fuel industry.

I have been saying this for years, and nobody believes me. They just shut me out whenever I point to the obvious fact that there is no evidence, historical or scientific, of the sun or wind even existing prior to the foundation of the Democratic Party in 1828

Can confirm, am shill. AMA

Why do you love the global poor

They make my stuff

Who’s cum tastes better Soros or Brock

Yes.

Soros, but I prefer to mix the two together.

Doesn’t it become non-kosher when you do that

Only on the Sabbath.

Same here.

We make $16 an hour shilling, can you really blame us?

You can criticize all you want, but you know you're tempted to do it. Gotta make a living.

If you're interested in getting on the payroll, subscribe to /r/neoliberal, then go to the Discussion Thread (the one at the top) and leave a comment asking, "Should Old Ravens Obey Someone?" We'll get in touch with you through PM and walk you through the fairly quick application process.

You people act like it's impossible for a handful of people to control hundreds of accounts between them.

Also, you act like people are suggesting shills are random redditors off the street. No, it would be a small group of people controlling a huge number of accounts, just like public SEO firms do.

This moronic lines of reasoning male you look stupid.

Have you seen our discussion threads? You don't get that kind of appealing "community" (which draws a lot of people in!) by having one person control 100 accounts. There's too much of a drop in quality.

We have nearly unlimited resources at the top anyway, so quality of contributions is prioritized. It's a new kind of astroturfing, and one I think you'll find is working quite well.

You can have multiple accounts, but max is 5 for exactly that reason.

I would say I've said too much, but there's always plausible deniability. Nobody is going to write a news story off of some random Reddit comment, after all!

Whatever it is you do and whatever your methods, it's better than 16 an hour. All my friends who do SEO and brand management make bank.

I understand that it's hard to see why so many people would unironically support Neoliberalism, but for me it's hard to see why so many people would unironically support Trump. But /r/neoliberal doesn't need a wide conspiracy of botnets and sockpuppet accounts anymore than /r/The_Donald does to explain its popularity.

I didn't say anything about that sub, nor do I care about it.

I'm simply pointing out how all the similar, sarcastic rhetoric that gets thrown around whenever discussion of shills comes up is dumb.

It's spreading ignorance about an entire sector of e-business as though it doesn't exist.

I'm simply pointing out how all the similar, sarcastic rhetoric that gets thrown around whenever discussion of shills comes up is dumb.

No one's being sarcastic. You caught us.

The true peril of /r/conspiracy is the lack of an implicit /s

You guys are the cancer of the internet. Or the internet mosquito. If you social media manipulators got a real job, the world would be a better place.

We have real jobs: $16/hr to $hill for Soros, plus bonuses.

Yeah, because propaganda is great for society!!! /s

One day when (((they))) implement a universal (((globalist))) government run by lizard people, you'll take back that /s.

Equating PR manipulation with lizard people government is pretty retarded, bro

I mean, they're the ones who write my checks, so idk what to tell you.

Why do you hate the global poor?

Only one of those subs has botnets and sockpuppet accounts and it's not /r/neoliberal.

The fact that you refer to SEO as "very little known" is comical to me. It's extremely well known to anyone in tech at this point.

It's comical that people still pretend that shills have to be some random, bong smoking redditor.

to anyone in tech

https://www.comptia.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/2016/03/01/u.s.-tech-industry-employment-surpasses-6.7-million-workers

That's, what, 2% of the US population?

Can confirm SEO was a huge deal~1" years ago and a lot of people thought it was fucked up. Now it's called astroturfing or fake news depending in your political leanings or some shit.

What the fuck? SEO is optimizing your sites/blogs/etc in order to get better placement on Google. It's literally in the name "Search Engine Optimization".

Yup, but at some point (at a large enough scale) inevitably crosses over from "helping people find your page" to "tricking people into coming to your page" to "stopping customers from finding your competitors page" which is where it gets shady.

And then at some point Google started letting you just pay them directly to improve your page rank (ie: search ads).

This is more at the business level - it'd be surprising if bloggers/random idiots were going that far.

I'm talking about online astroturfing specifically.

You seriously think more than 5% of the population could define SEO and tell you about how online marketing companies create fake blogs and fake social media accounts in order to game search engines, control discussions, and negatively influence competition by having fake conversations with themselves?

How many people do you actually think would have that conversation with you?

I'm not sure if maybe you replied to the wrong person? Probably I just wasn't clear.

Astro-turfing is an absolutely enormous part of SEO, even if "SEO Companies" would deny it. It has been going on since before the internet.

It goes back at least a decade, because around that time it seemed like half of the people I met were working in SEO in one way or another.

I'm not sure what we're dis-agreeing on here? We're both grabbing statistics out of the air - we're probably both wrong on them.

All I'm pointing out, is that this is not new at all. Many people know about it, but I agree not everyone does and that explains why so many people fall for it.

I never said it was new. Just that it was booming and your average person has no idea what it is, and would probably disbelieve you if you told them.

Ah agreed.

Honestly it seems like plenty of people who do know about SEO are in denial... "What? No one would fall for that! Astroturfing is obvious, etc."

Hence why we're discussing it here :-)

Right, but presumably you're friends are domestic employees. /r/neoliberal is all outsourced offshore.

All these people bashing this sub and using the full link?

bashing

I R O N Y

Imagine being so paranoid that you think hundreds of people is just one person having an enormous conversation with himself for the sole purpose of undermining your beliefs.

Again, trying to pretend online PR doesn't exist. That is exactly what using the internet to manage a brand looks like.

You must not have many friends because I know multiple people whos businesses involve orchestrating online conversations as part of marketing campaigns and brand management strategies.

Considering that the discussion thread schisms literally every day I doubt that what you described is happening, unless your idea of "brand management" is diluting that brand as much as possible.

More comments, more upvotes, more general sense of "fellow young people" agreement... just like T_D

One of our mods is literally in highschool so I'd agree we do a pretty good job at reaching out to the youngins

There you go. "I'm in high school, like you. Here are my opinions on ______"

Well, yeah. I already told you that's how we work.

agreement

On /r/neoliberal

Online PR is definitely a thing and is happening all over the internet. Its a cheap way to help your brand.

You know several friends that do that. I call bullshit. That's a niche job.

You call bullshit... okay. I'm guessing you're fairly low on the corporate ladder, right?

No man, one guy took hundreds of "What kind of kink are you" tests and faked discussion about it to support the establishment.

That was the best fucking afternoon ever. literally.

Don't forget roleplaying the Protestant Reformation on a subreddit not even related to religion.

Have you not heard of /u/rooster_86?

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What do you mean "you people"?

Who do you think I mean? All the people who use the canned lines for this, a la "Sorosbucks"

Pfsh it's SorosCoin not SorosBucks now.

Soros is pretty much all about financing groups that would probablt engage in that sort of behavior. I love the tongue-in-cheek here... +1

I do feel like George Soros is the Nintendo Boss of geopolitical masterminds. The real threats would be much more subtle.

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE TELLING EVERYONE OUR SEKRITS!

We're so powerful it doesn't matter anyway

TFW the alt right gets taken down by a bunch of people pretending to argue about chili on a random internet forum

If we're open about it, then they won't think we're serious. It's a new strat devised by Mr Macaron.

That's how they enslave you. They pay the masses a minimum wage of $15, and they pay the shills $16. They fight hard for that extra $1. Divide and conquer is the name of the game.

Wait, where are they paying the $15 minimum wage?

It's a proposed minimum wage in a number of places, in some places a mandated one that they are creeping to over a period of years. However, a commonly quoted number. The main point was to note the $1 difference, and how little you need to create two separate classes.

$1 creating two separate classes - that's a pretty interesting idea. I will keep that in mind. You could be on to something.

I think you need some significant income disparity before that works, though. Could be wrong. Hope I'm not. But this isn't a safe space :-)

Gid. Why did you even mention that sub. Went there out of curiosity and the idiocy is mind numbing.

Care to give some examples of the idiocy?

Those fucking avatar faces of politicians next to every username. Lame as fuck.

Ugh so idiotic!!!

To be fair, a lot of them are notable economists and philosophers too.

Dunni, bro. Maybe idiocy is not the word, but overall vibe gave me the creeps.

it's ironic. but also not ironic. we just think it's funny, okay??

Haha, yeah... I was being ironic with my undying love for Mr. Macron

So. Much. Peer. Review.

/r/neoliberal BTFO πŸ€£πŸ˜‹πŸ˜±πŸ™ƒ

I'm still waiting on my McCain flair.

β€˜Evidence based policy’ ew

It's hilarious that a sub full of right-wing, conspiracy theorist, neckbeards is criticizing r/neoliberal for being dumb

It's also pretty hilarious that /r/Conspiracy is criticising any of shilling. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Well you gave me another sub to troll and shitpost.

troll and shitpost.

welcome! you'll fit right in. =D

How do I sign up as a shill? I will push any narrative you ask for $$

See my comment higher up in the thread, I give instructions if you’re interested.

I know its a joke but I decided to play along

It isn't a joke. I do actually get paid to shill online. It goes through several shell companies, but the money does ultimately come from Soros's Open Society Foundations.

Well when I can get a pay check, I will believe it

Everyone who supports Democrats are shills, don'tcha nkow?

Yo dawg, I heard your LLCs have LLCs.

Dark money is easy to hide if you have the deep state in your pocket

Can confirm. Am Deep State.

Shill companies. Get it right.

It isn't a joke. I do actually get paid to shill online. It goes through several shellshill companies, but the money does ultimately come from Soros's Open Society Foundations.

It's like you're not even trying.

Real answer: you'd have to have a lot of experience and an established reputation in the SEO/online PR/reputation management industry.

Search for online marketing, PR, and branding on LinkedIn or something similar. You would have to establish yourself for years to become a trusted industry insider, and then get a job with a firm like Cambridge Analytica or Shareblue and work your way in. These are obviously not jobs that would be given to any random redditor off the street.

How do I sign up as a shill? I will push any narrative you ask for $$

Just send me a PM, bro. I'll hook you up.

The pay is awesome. $500.00 per qualifying comment, $1,250 per qualifying post.

But mind the fine print, bro: The pay is in Zimbabwe Dollars, measured at the exchange rate with USD as of October, 2008.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_Zimbabwe

What did you expect?

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Yes, there are thousands of comments, but from a far fewer number of users. Many regulars (myself included) post multiple top-level comments daily, and reply to several others. That alone makes up the bulk of the discussion thread.

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Only 2 posts down to find Marx referenced. No surprise.

Well where else am I supposed to go for economics memes?

Welcome NeoLibs. What is your favorite conspiracy?

MK Ultra.

Everyone that wants FDR flair is secretly a socialist.

Starbucks makes terrible tasting black coffee on purpose to encourage customers to purchase more expensive flavored drinks.

Ha good point. It's like the Apple iPhone.

Chemtrails. Imagine not knowing how water works.

I enjoy talking about Operation Northwoods myself.

The girl scouts are responsible for the crop circle phenomenon. Aglets serve a sinister purpose

Soros did nothing wrong

CLINTON FOUNDATION DOT ORG

Imagine being so paranoid you think people get payed to roleplay heated arguments about chili

This but unironically.

Unironically.

People to get paid to to shill on the internet. Shills are a real thing. I have no idea where anybody mentioned anything about Chili though.

Neoliberals understand that free-market capitalism creates unparalleled growth, opportunity, and innovation, but may fail to allocate wealth efficiently or fairly. Therefore, the state serves vital roles in correcting market failure, ensuring a minimum standard of living, and conducting monetary policy. At the same time, the state should pursue these goals with minimal interference and under the check of inclusive institutions to free it from the influence of corporations, unions, and other special interests.

We believe public policies should be evaluated on how well they achieve their goals. We strive to avoid the failures of collectivists who employ means that are fundamentally inconsistent with the egalitarian ends they seek to attain. For this reason, we support empirical, pragmatic policy grounded in economics. Neoliberals also support classical liberal values such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of the press (to name a few)

Turns out they are National Socialists.

Wrong

You might want to read Mein Kampf at the very least before chiming in.

The first paragraph is an excellent summary of Nazi economic theory.

The second mostly works, but the Nazis didn't really see free speech/religion/press as things that needed to be explicitly defended for it's citizens it was more assumed.

Contrary to popular belief there was more freedom of speech in Germany in 1940 than in 2016.

Nazism is fundamentally opposed to inclusive institutions

Nazi economic practices (large-scale cooperation between government and corporations) is not "minimal state interference under the check of inclusive institutions to free it from the influence of corporations."

They are fundamentally opposite political philosophies

Contrary to popular belief there was more freedom of speech in Germany in 1944 than in 2016.

True. For example calling for the killing of Jews in 1944 was as legal as actually killing them. Today these free speech haters call that antisemitism.

Also the Nazi book burnings didn't happen.

Rounding up Jews didn't happen.

Rounding up Homosexuals didn't happen.

Rounding up political opponents didn't happen.

The Scholl siblings were actually not killed but hailed as heroes of free speech for providing a different oppinion via flyers.

Why do you hate the global poor?

Look who can't comprehend what you just posted. You can't! The nazis were so inclusive, free trade, with respect for individual rights! Wake up dude.

I mean, they were all for open borders in Europe. /s

If you completely change the meaning of a text, it will take on a new interpretation. Amazing insight.

Wew. You should really work on your reading comprehension there.

You guys dont have a single thread on Bill Browder and WE'RE the shills? who do you even think youre fooling besides yourselves?

Hey now. I posted one. Of course I post one neoliberal so there's that.

Deep State always wins.

I am so glad that Obama is still Shadow President. We would be really fucked if we let Trump have any real power

A shill safe space.

Shill here, not only am I a globalist pig but I am a worshiper of the one true god Soros. AMA.

Why do you love open trade, open borders, and taco trucks on every corner?

1.) cultural diffusion and expanded sales demographic

2.) free travel and immigrants contribute more to local and national economies than they take away from. Especially considering someone has to cut my lawn.

3.) What monster doesn't love widely accessible and cheap delicious Tacos?

You are definitely earning your Soros checks.

Thank you

implying this sub doesn't get brigaded with /r/the_donald upvotes

They have bots with preloaded topics and slants.

I always thought r/neoliberal was a joke sub where people made fun of that sort of Democratic Party shill.

Username checks out ;)

Why do you hate evidence based policy?

Absolutely, and Neocons push Neolib politics, especially their war waging, both big fans of

Are you under the illusion that there's a difference between the two?

Only on Tuesdays

Ayyyy

No they just get BTFO whenever they visit

Whatever it is you do and whatever your methods, it's better than 16 an hour. All my friends who do SEO and brand management make bank.

Those fucking avatar faces of politicians next to every username. Lame as fuck.

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It makes me feel that I was right the whole time. Hilldawg would have been a fantastic prez.

I understand that it's hard to see why so many people would unironically support Neoliberalism, but for me it's hard to see why so many people would unironically support Trump. But /r/neoliberal doesn't need a wide conspiracy of botnets and sockpuppet accounts anymore than /r/The_Donald does to explain its popularity.

At worst she would have been Obama and at best she would of been one of the GOATs. It was a no-lose situation

Dunni, bro. Maybe idiocy is not the word, but overall vibe gave me the creeps.

The one major time it really hit the top was the delayed Trump to Bernie gif, far as I can recall.

it's ironic. but also not ironic. we just think it's funny, okay??

Reddit wouldn't be so progressive if it wasn't for blatant censorship of righteaning subs and views, such as on wodnews and news and politics

My extremely technical analysis of a potential HRC presidency is one similar to GHWB - a one term, competent, but uninspiring presidency.

Considering that the discussion thread schisms literally every day I doubt that what you described is happening, unless your idea of "brand management" is diluting that brand as much as possible.

I believe Republicans in house as of now would favor her over Trump. McConnell and crew like Hillary.

See, shilling for the (((globalists))) never had to be boring, and it pays well.

Very respectable

Can't wait for this ground shattering investigative journalism

The fact that you refer to SEO as "very little known" is comical to me. It's extremely well known to anyone in tech at this point.

I ain't your brah, brah.

β€˜Evidence based policy’ ew

One of our mods is literally in highschool so I'd agree we do a pretty good job at reaching out to the youngins

agreement

On /r/neoliberal

They are moderates. From Kasich to Obama on the political spectrum in the US.

You know several friends that do that. I call bullshit. That's a niche job.

Right, but presumably you're friends are domestic employees. /r/neoliberal is all outsourced offshore.

So. Much. Peer. Review.

Remindme! 6 hours

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Uh wat

You think a dude who wants to cut taxes this the elite is not establishment? He was born into golden slippers and will expand them for every elite fuckboi in the room

Pfsh it's SorosCoin not SorosBucks now.

This but twice as ironically.

So... we're waiting