Communists/globalists infiltrated our CIA/state department and have used it recklessly to manufacture the American/capitalist enemy.
5 2017-11-01 by MKWalt
It seems clear to me that the goal of the communist/globalist is the abolition of the nation state.
US citizens love their country. So they have to turn their citizens against their own country. So they infiltrated like McCarthy said, and have created this caricature for the people to hate.
38 comments
1 pickle_suit 2017-11-01
You should probably learn what "communist" means.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
why dont you explain it then
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
you mean you made this thread without knowing?
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
i believe i know what it is, but you seem to know better ?
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
You are mistaken. You don't know what it is. I doubt you have ever read Marx or any other socialist writer. By this thread title it's obvious you don't know what it is.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
i used to be a communist. i know what it is. but since you're so smart, why dont you tell me instead of saying nothing in your comment
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
Sure, you used to be a communist and you think communists manufactured the "capitalist enemy" whatever that means. Then I used to be a penguin. You have no idea what communism is. Why don't I tell you? Because it requires reading source material to understand it. I'm not going to rewrite Kapital here for you.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
Then you don't know yourself. If you can't summarize it you don't understand it. Lenin spoke about getting the idiots to see the flaws in the system in left wing communism chapter 9. These communists need to magnify their supposed contradictions so the masses demand revolution. This couldn't happen before the CIA because America loved capitalism and not being in a caste. Then the CIA comes along and fucks the world up and now the communists have the evil imperialistic capitalist empire to point to.
Now please mr brain, what is communism and why am I so wrong.
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
Communism is the ideology of a stateless egalitarian society that advocates "for each according to his need, from each according to his ability." It is a reaction to and a product of the contradictions of capitalism. In other words, capitalism begets communism, but you claim it's the other way around.
Lenin wrote a whole book criticizing Imperialism as the natural outgrowth of capitalism. The CIA is nothing if not the most potent weapon of American imperalism.
Communists literally is the ideology of the workers and you think they control the fucking CIA? I'm wasting my time here. Jesus. The CIA was created by the CFR who are globalist individuals who own huge wealth and use that wealth to control entire governments i.e. Fascists. Your entire thread of hate would make sense if you replaced the word Communism with its polar opposite Fascism.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
this is my point. this is all to convince you that communism is the way to go. the globalists are communists. they want a stateless world with no private property and fools like you are giving it to them.
for each according to his need from each according to his ability is slavery. you dont need much to survive and we are able to be worked till we collapse.
you have to be a brain dead idiot to support communism. its slavery and death and starvation wrapped in a cute wrapping paper for the intellectual frauds to fawn over
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
Again you should replace "communists" in your argument with "fascists". If they were true communists they would also relinquish their own private property, but they aren't going to do that, are they? Thus they cannot be communists.
Also, if you "used to be a communist" then you would understand the difference between personal property and private property.
Communism in one word is: sharing. Sharing the work and sharing the rewards. It is not slavery. Capitalism is slavery. Fascism is slavery with a boot on your neck.
It takes someone with a fucked up agenda to argue that communists has the same goals as fascists.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
but youre wrong. there is no difference between personal and private property in practice. they will take what they want. and people like you will welcome it.
capitalism is the answer to slavery. you want to return us to a time when citizens could not own property or generate wealth or be free.
understand that maybe you dont know everything and you might be wrong. you are the one, although you dont realize it, with the fucked up agenda of a post money post state post private property society where we're all enslaved and there's no competition and no choice and no freedom.
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
Who is "they"? Communists? If they are communists, then they will also relinquish their own property, right? If they don't then they are not communists. Capiche?
You really don't understand the difference between personal and private property. It's a huge deal. Go read up on it.
Capitalism is the post-feudal form of indentured servitude. Communism the ideal state of total freedom to do what you wish without having to sell your time and labour.
Your entire argument is a based on defining the Elite Owners of Global Capital as communists, which is fucking ridiculous, laughable, false on it's face, totally the opposite of reality and common sense, and not worthy of discussion.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
Hate to break it to you but you're wrong. I know the 'difference' between personal and private but it's not a real difference. Personal becomes private when the communists want it. Your ideology is anti freedom anti choice anti property and the ideology of evil and force and coercion.
God that you say communism is the idea state of total freedom (except for all those things you can't do that get you gulaged) plus your account age makes me think you're a baiter.
You have a lot to learn about the history of communism and where it comes from and what it looks like in practice.
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
I have many accounts. That's not how you're going to win this argument.
You still haven't addressed my question: Who is "they"? You claim "they" are communists, but if they are then they would relinquish their property. If they don't, then they are fascists.
My undergrad was in History. You are the one who has not read history or socialist source material. Your arguments have no basis in fact, theory, history, or sources. All you have is: "I state this so it must be true and you are wrong because I say you are wrong".
Communism is, by Marx's manifesto, the democratic organisation of society by the workers and for the workers. Yet you claim the Elite Owners of Global Capital are proponents of Communism. You are a joke.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
i dont care what your undergrad was an in fact that makes me think youre more uninformed.
the elite want a society where you have no choice and no freedom and no property. thats communism despite with your filthy marx says. as if he's god. jesus christ
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
You can't form a cogent argument with any supporting sources or facts. Now you're wailing like a 5 year old. You can't even answer my basic question I've asked 3 times: Who is "they" that you are referring to? Are you saying "they" --the Elite Owners of Global Capital-- are supporting the ideology that would strip them of their wealth and power?
Workers of the world unite!
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
you've insulted me in every single one of your comments and then go on to call me a 5 year old. you think communism will strip them of their power but really it will place everything in their power and you will have no choice and no freedom and no property.
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
So you're saying "they" will not relinquish their wealth and power and instead maintain a tiered system of owners and workers? Please clarify for me: Is that what you are saying?
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
no they will own everything. and you will have no choice, no freedom, and no property. much like how 'democracy' has led to both parties acting the same.
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
So, according to you, they will own everything and workers will own nothing. Congratulations, you have defined fascism. Now go remake this thread but replace the word "communism" with "fascism". Then you will be correct and people will agree with you instead of everyone insulting you in this thread.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
Don't get caught up on the words because you're blinded by your ideology. They globalists want a stateless world where you have no property and no competition and no freedom. That's communism.
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
So, to you, the definition of words doesn't matter. The unequal system of big business owners oppressing workers you describe is the definition of FASCISM, but instead you call it by it's opposite ideology COMMUNISM, that instructs workers to revolt against the owners and make society more equal.
It's like we're both looking at a horse and you're telling me it's a penguin. WTF is wrong with you? Seriously, you think this shit is going to go unnoticed? There is a simple reason everyone is making fun of you in this thread. Because you don't know what you are talking about.
1 BlueCheeseandChips5 2017-11-01
Lmfao. The name of the sub is conspiracy dude, not conspiratard. Go back to the Donald.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
Yes I should have know conspiracy users hate capitalism and freedoms s private property and want a big state telling them what to do
1 BlueCheeseandChips5 2017-11-01
Bullshit. You're not welcome here
1 pby1000 2017-11-01
The Jesuits created Communism...
1 DemonFromTheMachine 2017-11-01
No I'm perfectly fine with an individual or corporation owning precious resources.
I'm dying for Nestle to finally privatise the water.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
sure. you'd prefer the god damn government owned it and used law and force to prevent any competition.
1 DemonFromTheMachine 2017-11-01
That's not what I said. I want corporations to be powerful and control the resources.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
i sense irony and sarcasm
1 DemonFromTheMachine 2017-11-01
What? How could someone be sarcastic when law and order by the government protects our most valuable people who own precious resources. I love the Rockafellers and Rothschilds of the world. They are good people. A shining example of how great communism is not.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
god youre such a loser. the rockafellers (i forget which one) reduced the oil price by like 300% but yah fuck them.
youd rather have the government control everything.
1 DemonFromTheMachine 2017-11-01
That's not what I said again. I'd rather corporations and people own everything.
1 vivek31 2017-11-01
Obvious troll. Well, let's at least hope.
1 pby1000 2017-11-01
They actually created the CIA in 1947. It was originally funded with captured Japanese gold. The CIA is the only part of the Cabal that is a US government agency.
Elites, The Creation of the CIA, the Mafia and Cuba: Daniel Sheehan - 5-3-2016
https://youtu.be/-r6Xshd8Jp4?list=PLxk5V3uxvfq8d_nL_QdMEvSSpnMB-x3_A
1 fridaymonkeyk 2017-11-01
communist/community loves country men & women also prone to dictatorship & some people benefitting more than other also suffers from nationalism & propaganda. Citizens are educated, housed, fed & get along pretty well.
globalist/dictator/crony capitalist loves money & controlling majority of products & housing their slaves have to pay for.
People fight amongst each other while globalist controls attention through the media they own & broadcast/brainwash from.
Both have problems. Which problems would you prefer?
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
lol what a pathetic comparison. id take capitalism and freedom any day
communism is literal slavery
1 vivek31 2017-11-01
I believe you have that backwards. You need to study both ideologies and then come back to edit your post.
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
wrong. it is you who have it backwards. or present ANY evidence or an argument instead of telling me to edit my post
1 MKWalt 2017-11-01
why dont you explain it then
1 pby1000 2017-11-01
The Jesuits created Communism...
1 Get_physical_ 2017-11-01
So, according to you, they will own everything and workers will own nothing. Congratulations, you have defined fascism. Now go remake this thread but replace the word "communism" with "fascism". Then you will be correct and people will agree with you instead of everyone insulting you in this thread.