reddit User Successfully predicted "Paradise papers"
187 2017-11-05 by Vulpix199
https://np.reddit.com/r/PanamaPapers/comments/77n6ix/do_not_give_up_more_is_coming/
Reddit user also said something big on Wilbur ross .
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-associate https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/trump-commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-business-links-putin-family-paradise-papers?CMP=share_btn_tw
Told You guy Yesterday to check the new york times https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/world/wilbur-ross-russia.html?smid=tw-share
35 comments
1 Ninjakick666 2017-11-05
Yeah... that looks kinda legit to me... I'd chalk it up to coincidence but they put the word "Paradise" at the bottom... pretty solid.
1 Stantoninus 2017-11-05
Clearly astroturfing.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-11-05
I don't think you know what that word means.
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-05
I don't think he knows what astroturfing is either lol.
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
Interesting, I tend to shy away from anonymous predictions, but looks like they did have insider info: https://np.reddit.com/r/PanamaPapers/comments/77n6ix/do_not_give_up_more_is_coming/dony0eq/
1 besticular 2017-11-05
Yea we all know why you shy away from anon predictions. You're so insecure you don't want to believe in something that could be false to protect your weak self-esteem.
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
Not really, I've been wrong in the past plenty and learned to operate on actual evidence rather than other people's speculations... especially on a site that has so many various people with various agendas. Also, believe is a strong word, I'm always open to ideas infact I have various conspiracy theories that discredit each other if obe of them was true. But tell me more about the issues you seem to have with me, I'm all ears.
1 Lasterba 2017-11-05
As a opposed to blindly believing something? Because that's not foolish at all.
/s bevause, unfortunately, this guy is proof that it's neede
1 besticular 2017-11-05
Not blindly. You have to use your brain and see if it makes sense. Is it rational and realistic? Of course you're not bright enough to do this so you need evidence. Not to mention your low self esteem won't allow you to take a risk to accept something that doesn't have overwhelming evidence with giant red arrows pointing to one direction. Basically you are a weak sheep-minded person with low intellect and low self-esteem and I want stray away from you as much as possible. Just stop commenting on posts so I don't have to see your trash comments.
1 Lasterba 2017-11-05
Yes. We that require evidence before declaring something as true are the stupid, weak-minded ones.
I have a few bridges for sale. I'll give you a great discount! I only sell my discount bridges to the truly intelligent.
1 besticular 2017-11-05
That's like saying you want to shut off the judging part of your brain when you can't. You will always inherently judge in your head as a human being. That's why all humans have biases and prejudices even when they try not to be. You simply can't. But you pretend like you can because you are a low self-esteem coward.
The only reason you're saying "oh I won't believe in it unless there's evidence" is so you can SAVE FACE and CODDLE YOUR LOW SELF ESTEEM. In reality, you already have the judgment in your head but you don't want to say it to look stupid in front of people. The problem is to smart people like me YOU ALREADY LOOK STUPID.
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
Haha, is this your shtick, go around crying about people who don't agree with your point of view or have actual standard's when looking at conspiracies?
...I know, I know, it's because I'm a moron with low self-esteem and actually requiring evidence to entertain specific theories. You should start a cult, if you can find people as dumb as you want them to be, I'm sure they'll believe in your BS thought process.
1 Lasterba 2017-11-05
r/iamverysmart
1 momosalemur 2017-11-05
It wasn't a prediction. Prediction would be a guess based on other info, like predicting trump will be impeached be a use of so many Russian connections. This was actual knowledge and information he had. Semantically and technically it was almost a leak.
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
It's a prediction till proven true, but you do have a valid point to a certain extent.
1 momosalemur 2017-11-05
It's a prediction if he didn't know it was going to happen. He knew it was going to happen, hence why he had inside info such as their name and targets. His prediction was the date, as he did not know that. Also, and FYI, it was proven true to HIM--just not to us. That's why it wasn't a prediction because it was already proven true (just not from our limited perspective).
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
I still think it's a prediction by definition, but I'll agree to disagree.
1 Scroon 2017-11-05
Hilarious exchange. :) I was a little confused too, so I thought about it. If I see trains passing by every hour on the hour, but dont have a train schedule in front of me, I can make a "prediction" that the next train will also come on the hour.
However, if I have a schedule in front of me listing train times, it's no longer a prediction. I simply "know" when the trains are supposed to come, so if I tell anyone, it's me spreading info.
Basically, it can be either a prediction OR leak depending on the source of OP's info. Since none of us know, the classification cannot be made definitely.
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
It's still a prediction by definition, also a prediction is still information that can be spread.
A leak and a prediction have nothing to do with one or the other. The like was today, the prediction was 2 weeks ago. They gave us a heads up to keep our eye peeled and said when the leak was and who it pertained to, but it wasn't a leak of raw data, it was a prediction.
1 Scroon 2017-11-05
Well, I'm not exactly arguing with what you're saying. Just trying to work out the semantics.
1 wololoPriestAoE 2017-11-05
"I should add one more detail - the next leaks will involve senior members of the Trump administration, although I do not know when they will actually be published." His quote 16 days ago.
1 dredmorbius 2017-11-05
Also specifically called out Ross (in a comment).
I'd seen the posts at the time, noted them, didn't re-share. But interesting.
1 Garretthates12 2017-11-05
Shit that's no coincidence
1 SouthSouthLondon 2017-11-05
Even referred to it in his posts as “Paradise.” No coincidence or luck here. Man knew.
1 Stantoninus 2017-11-05
Wow this astroturfing that is somehow backed by all the major papers coordinated to release at the same time is INCREDIBLE
1 cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-11-05
People shouldn't be downvoting you. Truth should be revealed in all of its forms, but I was suspicious about the Panama Papers being a West-driven leak against its enemies (hence its Rothschild funding)... but given the recent events, the timing of the Paradise Papers isn't helping my initial assertion. Not to mention the "going to be released" (ie, giving a few hours of possible negotiations with certain players).
But hey, let the chips fall. Let's see what happens here.
1 Tsmitty247 2017-11-05
I can't fucking wait
1 ab-absurdum 2017-11-05
Now that's interesting
1 Tha_Dude_Abidez 2017-11-05
Wow! Yep, he knew.
1 CivilianConsumer 2017-11-05
NYT is part of this...chin stroke time
1 vivek31 2017-11-05
Could have been a journalist.
1 SixVISix 2017-11-05
The Guardian and NYT. Pass.
1 Scroogemcpooch 2017-11-05
And yet you probably trust way sketchier shit like infowars.
1 TowneshipRebellion 2017-11-05
He is just sewing doubt. Don't let people yank your chain so easily. I fall for it too sometimes. I could be the eastern bunny, obama or the walking dead. You have no idea who anyone is that you don't know or havent carefully verified. Don't be led into emotional reactions by low effort negative elements like SixVIEdgy.
1 gaslightlinux 2017-11-05
How many journalists did they say were working on this? I think if anything this user was more stupid than anything, leaking something like this. What point did it server? What problems could it have caused?
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
I still think it's a prediction by definition, but I'll agree to disagree.
1 kit8642 2017-11-05
Haha, is this your shtick, go around crying about people who don't agree with your point of view or have actual standard's when looking at conspiracies?
...I know, I know, it's because I'm a moron with low self-esteem and actually requiring evidence to entertain specific theories. You should start a cult, if you can find people as dumb as you want them to be, I'm sure they'll believe in your BS thought process.
1 Lasterba 2017-11-05
r/iamverysmart