Truth finds a way

And that is the biggest encouragement about any of this. More line shining in dark corners, wherever they may e.

The "fakenews" blitz (ripping John Rappaport off) last year was the feableminded, hamfisted first response to the grassroots investigations. It takes a year for these paramecium to strategize and choose sacrificial weinsteins, attempting to placate any half interested citizens who catch wind of the grand criminal scheme. Reddit was / is permabanned from legitimate participation in any true justice, after going titsup bitch to the coverup

What's the connection with Pizzagate? I missed any info regarding pizza code or anything. I thought it was straight Pedogate.

None. It's called pedogate

Also humorous considering most of these Hollywood style allegations are regarding young teens. Pedophelia is with infants.

No, it's anyone under the age of consent not just babies.

Im too lazy to look it up but i think theres like 3-4 terms for the varying ages 0-18.

All under the umbrella term of paedophilia

Honestly, i dont want to fill my history with that shit, so yes.

Incorrect, pedophelia is for 0-11 or 12 typically.

And there's a lot of different kinds of herpes point is herpes is still herpes I don't care how you f****** break it down

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age

so no, its only those undeveloped.

Society decides what is and what is no pedophilia. You're a child rapist if you sexual abuse a girl who's 13 even if she's already going through puberty.

Its a good idea to reflect on the definition of words when we use them

The only people who would care if you use pedophilia instead of whatever word you're suggesting for wanting to have sex with children is, surprise, someone who doesn't want the stigma of being called a pedophile.

As a note going forward in life, stop telling people things you clearly don't care about definitions.

Okay pedophile.

The sign of low intelligence, the inability to reason and the necessity to attack the messenger instead of the message. Classic.

Yup.

And taqiya is a form of Muslim deception.

yes, hence why my name is libbredavid37 - jew tenant to lie taqiya - muslim tenant to lie

Ha ha, yup. No difference between minor cold sores and genital herpes. I just hope you can convince your date of that.

Don't have to don't have it nor would I even kissed anybody with a cold sore

More than 80%+ of the population has HSV1. Good luck!!

Don't need the luck I've been single for 15 years lol good luck for you!

oh, well sorry the shutdown r/incels, man. Hopefully this sub works as a replacement.

I don't even know what that is I don't know what this is working as a replacement for sorry man you're not making much sense

Pedophilia I the attraction to pre mature adults. There is a philia attached to pubescent and young adults.

It's called pederasty. The attraction to young pubescent teenagers

Isn't pederasty exclusively homosexual?

Pedophilia is literally the attraction to prepubescent humans.

What you are talking about is statutory rape. Two completely different things. While I think that both should be illegal, one, IMO, represents a real psychological issue (attraction to prepubescent children) while the other represents a good law meant to protect emotionally and intellectually immature people from predators. But I think we have to be careful not to conflate the two.

Exactly

Pedophilia=sexual attraction to PREPUBESCENT children

Ephebophilia=sexual attraction to post-pubescent teenagers/young people. May preclude statutory rape depending on the person's age/legal status and what state they are in.

I.e. Sex with a minor doesn't necessarily qualify as pedophilia, and may be entirely legal depending on their age/consent. In South Carolina, for example, the AoC is 16, meaning an older person, above the age of 18, can legally have sex with a teenager age 16, even though the teenager is still a minor (obviously with consent). While this may be distasteful to many people, it is neither illegal nor pedophilia. It's an ephebophile still not breaking the law.

Hell my grandmother was 15 when her then 28 year old husband married her. And that wasn't that long ago, historically speaking.

The outrage and actions taken concerning the pedophilia are legitimate and necessary, but the legal lines and correct understanding of the terminology is also necessary if it is to be combated effectively.

My humble opinion.

Thanks for this. Everyone needs to be aware of the distinction when approaching the issue at hand. I think there is also a distinction between pedophilia (sexual attraction) vs sadism or ritual abuse (stealing power or life force).

'My humble opinion': Age 12-17. Brain is still being developed. At those ages they are easily manipulated.

Even then, when a predator threatens to kill your family/friends if you do not do what they want and tell them to give them consent... It's fcking evil. At age 30 you have a developed brain and should be in jail for a long time if you are willing to destoy a soul.

Clearly. Some people remain easily manipulated their whole life--most, in fact. While I don't disagree, your stance is very subjective and thus makes any sort of legal precedent setting more difficult. Action must be taken on concepts that are understood as more concrete and fixed in definition. Not trying to say you're wrong by any means. But I believe that not every person over the age of 18 who is involved sexually with a consenting, legal minor, is evil or wrong. It's a distinction we must learn to make before we wind up embarking on a mass witch hunt.

You might have a point, but I sincerely disagree. Sure when an 19 y/o date an 16 y/o would not be a problem...

Then again when an 30 y/o dates an 16 y/o, then its an whole other story. Sure there might be circumstances where "true" love is a factor... I doubt at those age diffirences you have something in common though...

I might be biased since I got terrorized in my youth and has been diagnosed with ptsd, but I refuse to accept at those age differences when he/she is underage to be able to accept sexual acts without being aware of the consequences. Where as an adult knows exactly what he/she is doing.

I understand and I KNOW where you're coming from. I suffered abuse at the hands of more than one person, including my own uncle and neighbor who I thought was my "best friend" from the time I was about 6 until I was about 16. I'm not making claims about the morality or correctness of these things--only the legality of these things and the differences in terminology about these things, and how understanding THOSE aspects is what is most important when determining how to legally handle this sort of stuff.

As far as massive age gaps between two partners, historically, the gap has only been as narrow as is typically acceptable for a very (relatively) short period of time (i.e. My grandmother and grandfather mentioned in my other comment, JFE). All I'm really trying to say is that not every older person who's with someone younger is inherently malicious, and not every younger person with someone older is inherently a victim. We must rely on the rule of law AND the rule of tolerance when it comes to what is ultimately a private matter between two consenting individuals. It's good to stop the bad guys, but you gotta be able to have a consensus on what constitutes a "bad guy", so to speak. Does that make any sense ?

I understand your point and I feel sorry what you have been through. Though there is a diffirence in law and common sense. For instance when the person who molested me got arrested he got 1 year in prison while I live my whole live with the scars and even am about to lose my house because of the harm he did 18 years ago, because I cant function anymore.

All I want to make clear is adult people who wants young people are fcking evil.

and all i want to make clear is that not ALL adult people who are attracted to younger people are evil. a shitload of them are creepy sadistic perverts who should never see the light of day...but some of them actually are good people who's circumstances are unique and non-malicious. they are rare, but they exist, and they should not be persecuted because of the terrible actions of others. it isn't fair just like anything else that isn't fair.

if you ever need someone to talk to about what you've been through, you can privately message me any time. i have been fortunate to have a loving family and very good friends who have helped me work through a lot of the issues i have because of what happened to me as a child and as a teenager, and without them, i would, no doubt, have killed myself a long time ago. people, old and young, have appeared in my life, as friends, as family, as lovers, at the right times, and in the right ways, to remind me that there is still good in the world, and still good in people. i try to remember that all the time, because the world can be very dark when you forget it.

i don't know you. i've never seen your face or known your name. i don't anything about you but that you've been through something terrible, and i'm sorry it happened to you, but you need to know that you're not alone, and that there is always hope and love and light. i love you, whoever you are, and if you need an ear, ever, just let me know. i hope everything works out for you; but even if it doesn't, not right now, you gotta press on and know that as long as you stay true to yourself and remember the good, that eventually there will be peace. i may not seem possible when times are dark, but i promise you that it is. you have to believe me on that, buddy. i wish you the best.

actually thats not accurate either. technically people attracted to those between about 11-14 are considered Hebephiles. Pedophilia is for people attracted to those younger than that.

But semantics aside, anyone abusing anyone in a sexual manner that is under the age of being an adult is an issue, and any one abusing people who are adults, is just sexual abuse/assault.

Yeah that's hilarious......

People below the age of consent are being raped and abused, and you’re arguing semantics?

Also, he's thinks that's funny??

r/sicksadworld

What a brave statement. Anyways yes, because it’s factually right.

Oh that makes it 100% okay then!

Get fucked with rusted rebar.

You

so i'm a "Spook" then

I don’t like it anymore than you do, but it’s ‘Pizzagate’.

I used to be one to want to change it too- primarily because I wanted the whole subject to be more palatable for the masses.

Now I don’t give a fuck. They can adjust. Not us. It’s coming to light either way.

Thanks for understanding my gripe about the whole calling pizzagate but you are 100% correct, who gives a s*** you're right everything is coming out now, it's happening and that's what we really wanted in the first place.

Pizzagate is the pedo ring in DC for politicians, lobbyists, diplomats, etc. (often related to Brownstone operations -- providing minors to adults for sexual favors -- that keep pols compromised and voting the "right" way). Pedogate is an umbrella term for the connected pedo operations (e.g., Pizzagate and Pedowood both fall under the term Pedogate).

Kevin spacey and bill clinton were on the lolita express together its not just a hollywood problem its elites

Agreed, they're all connected -- DC, Hollywood, KSA (etc.), Big Oil, Military...list goes on and on.

I read Big Oil, Military as Bill Murray and my heart dropped a sec

This is funny. It would eventually have led me to believe the Wu Tang Clan was also involved if it turned out Bill Murray was in on it.

Digital Entertainment Network (Bryan Singer's thing) connects Kevin Spacey, Clinton Foundation, Epstein, Geffen, and Silicon Valley.

Kevin Spacey could be the weak link that brings all this down (or gets killed for it) if they manage to flip him on some charges.

And when it doesn't will you get real about praying that they will be connected?

They are connected, it's just a matter if that means anything.

Google:

Digital Entertainment Network pedophilia

you got plenty of news articles right there laying out the info.

Don't forget the agency, their role in it and civilian contractors like dyncorp

Didn't Trump fly on that plane too? And make a comment about how Epstein likes "them young"?

Trump was only alleged to fly on the plane in courtroom testimony. He did comment about Epstein though. My reasoning is if they didn't keep Bill Clintons rides secret why would they do that for Trump? But no he isn't on any of the flight logs. (Trump)

Trump has his own planes, he doesn't need to Uber Epstein, he can just meet him at the destination.

Very well could have, was just putting the correct info out there.

Yep, you would think the left would be more interested.

But I guess it's really not that surprising anymore.

I think plenty of people are interested in that Jane Doe's accusations about Trump and Epstein. That gets zero play on the right, and little in this sub.

It's gotten zero play in the MSM, which has gone to great lengths to pursue angles against Trump with far less evidence. It's quite odd.

Probably because that would be a house of cards collapsing. Anyone that's ever been on those planes will be accused properly if they go after trump, and that's probably too big a gambit.

Yea he went once (Hopefully I don't have to explain to you what that means) and then mentioned that comment. Almost as if he was signaling Epstein was a pedophile.

Didn't Trump pal around with Epstein too?

The connection is that all these high level pedophile rings are connected - you see how powerful Hollywood people have political power and influence and run in circles socially with politicians etc. Well the pedophile rings all operate that way too, just secretly obviously. The PG investigation was basically a name given to one tiny part of 'Pedogate' really it is all the same thing - the Pizzgate part was people finding out specifically the use of coded language in Democrat emails that then led to discoveries about the street upon which that weird pizza restaurant was located, along with several other businesses many of which used pedophile symbology in their logos, all of which were owned by Saudis and frequented by DC politicians.

That investigation that started with the pizza restaurant then led to ties to many other things globally, including Haiti, Dyncorp, other convicted pedo politicians, UK pedo rings, Belgian pedo rings, Norwegian elite pedo rings and Hollywood pedo rings.

So basically it's all connected.

investigation that started with the pizza restaurant

you might have tuned in a bit after the start... but it started before that

Its connected because the people looking into it connected them. Okay then.

I saw Travis Barker standing in a line next to me while I was ordering pizza at a grocery store once. Travis Barker + pizza + blink 182 + possibly occult tattoos + "drums" can be a euphemism for something else

it's all connected

I always suspected.

Pizzagate started off with that redditor in Hawaii finding that pedo wifi den...

all the research that led to alfantis/comet pizza and podesta/"come over and have pizza for an hour" started with people looking for pedos

I'm pretty sure it started with Spirit cooking, and the Hawaii connection was later. But regardless, 7 wifi spots underground is beyond suspect. I implore folks to research Art for Embassies Alefantis. Reddit admins literally suspended mods for the post even being in this sub.

i saw the video and THAT was spooky!

PIZZAGATE has almost nothing to do with Pizza.....

Than why is it called Pizzagate? What differentiates it from Pedogate if not the pizza code?

You can't censor the word pizza online, but you can pedo.

Literally nothing, pizza is a reference to a symbol for child love according to the FBI... the media are the only people who cared about actual pizza

It's deals with elite pedos and their network that allows them to operate essentially above the law.

Pizzagate was a small distraction to the rampant pedophelia in politics and Hollywood. It's attempt was to debunk itself (pizzagate) therefore nullifying all accusations as just part of the pizzagate story. We should stay vigilant and correct people when they fall for the bullshit.

Pizzagate/pedogate, it does not matter what derivative you want to use. They are the same exact thing. Again, don't buy into mainstream trying to brainwash you to thinking its unrelated. This includes Reddit.

I don't think anyone's distracted really lol. I've been helping debunk pizzagate claims since the whole thing started and it's still obvious Kevin Spacey is a pedo.

The main difference between Pizzagate and these aspects of Pedogate is witnesses and direct accusations. Pizzagate is a bunch of symbolism and attempts to "decode" ordinary messages, while these things have actual victims with corroborations giving their case.

The issue for those that think pizzagate is unrelated is that they cannot see the bigger picture. Entertainment and politics are one in the same, you may not understand this but its really simple.

Pizzagate is just referencing pedophilia by elite people, could be either industry. To think that pedophilia in politics is vastly different to pedophilia in the entertainment industry is absurd. Look up the attendees of the bohemian grove to see what you're missing.

I don't see a difference for people in positions of power. There's pedos in hollywood and washington for sure. I'm just saying it doesn't mean there's a specific circle who use coded messages based out of a pizza shop.

I'm saying pizza gate is not based out of the pizza shop. The term stems from the code words used in pedophilia rings not the location that was popularized by the ridiculous side show of the dude with a gun. Yes, I'm saying this was a planned red herring to make you think that pizza gate refers to comet pizza instead of the much larger situation at hand. It's quite obvious now that this is a very real issue in the entertainment and political landscapes. Also, this is likely just the very tip of the iceberg.

The issue is there is a ton that will never be properly investigated due to the positions of influence.

"small distraction" except that there are literally 10 posts a day about Podesta and his emails.

The pussycat dolls thing and the soros fund mgrs sex dungeon are in the ballpark.

Google Ben Swan

I just read somewhere that "Cheese Pizza" is a supposed euphemism for child porn.

Also something before about pizza parties at some pervs house.

Agreed... the /PG sub should have never gone away. Perhaps stricter rules put in place to protect possible POI/PII... but that's it. Anyone that immediately 'dismissed' PizzaGate and/or PedoGate as fake news is very clearly complying with the PTB.

The amount of circumstantial evidence is overwhelming despite what shills say.

The Hollywood accusations/Pedo Ring Busts/Soros' Finance Manager in NYC/Hastert/Epstein/CPP Password Protected Section/JA's Threats re: Pegasus/etc... are just too much to ignore.

Upvote this guy to counteract the shills because he is totally on point.

I hope his immunity is only protecting him from the Russian side of the equation... however, if* he was caught w/ any kind of underage evidence/witnesses/etc... the hope would be that his immunity deal would result in the total and complete exposure of this ring. How it operates. Who is involved.

From the looks of it, based on circumstantial evidence, global relationships, and the servers connected to CPP - this is very much an international "club" and the initiation is likely something that no normal person could even imagine, let alone perform.

Didn't the PG sub go away because morons were going out of their way to dox people and businesses instead of keeping it to speculation.

Don't forget that guy who showed up to one of those pizza places with a fucking gun.

That paid actor that showed up when he was supposed to

Got literally any evidence for that? Or is anyone doing something bad a paid actor to make the movement look bad? Is the guy from T_D who shot his own dad a paid actor too?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2016/12/04/d-c-police-respond-to-report-of-a-man-with-a-gun-at-comet-ping-pong-restaurant/

"Edgar Maddison Welch, 28, walked into D.C. pizza restaurant Comet Ping Pong armed with an assault rifle on Dec. 4, apparently to "investigate" a fake internet conspiracy."

Was it this guy? http://archive.is/qd5ZF http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Would be nice if either of those links had a picture of him, instead of just relying on the name being the same. Also even assuming it's the same guy, there's nothing stopping someone who was once an extra in some movies from believing all the pizzagate stuff. Having access to hollywood doesn't tend to make you more sane, after all. Look at Scientology for instance.

Agreed.

Yes. And then he was interviewed by major newspapers just a few days later stating how stupid he felt for being misled by evil conspiracy theorists.

Alefantis even got to be interviewed by newspapers as well as showing up on tv news networks proclaiming how awful conspiracy theorists almost got him killed, how innocent he is, and how it's all been "debunked" because the police said so without even investigating anything.

It was all a great way to get people to distance themselves from the people talking about it and people talking about any possible abuse rings in general. Not only that, but it was a great way to get people to call anyone talking about any potential conspiracies like that "dangerous" and tell everyone they shouldn't talk about it because some crazy person might go shoot up a store.

All of that happened because someone went into a store with a gun, shot a door, didn't hurt anyone and got interviewed as if he was some celebrity and not someone who just committed a crime.

The fact the street/traffic camera that directly showed the pizza place was moved away conveniently for the shooting is the icing on the "the whole thing was a false flag to get people to stop talking about it because people are now calling them dangerous and blaming them personally for making someone take a gun into a restaurant" cake.

In my opinion, of course.

At least you're backing your statements up by something, some other guy said he was a paid actor and just left it at that. I don't agree with it being a false flag or anything like that, but I appreciate that you came to that conclusion with some reason. Personally, I think he wasn't thinking too critically about the whole thing until after when he realized how fucked what he just did was, that's also just my opinion.

You know this is a real place, right? I mean that Comet Pizza is a real, physical, place, where you can go, sit down, and eat pizza. I just started reading about this Pizzagate thing, and it's kind of mind-blowing, as someone who lives in the DC region. You know you can go there, day or night, and visit, right? It's not a sex dungeon. Because again, it's a real place, a pizza place, where people go to eat and hang out. It's open to the public, and I hear it's pretty good. I don't really eat pizza because dairy messes with my stomach, and I don't play ping pong, but still.

So weird that people latched on to one of the hundreds of random shops around the area because it happened to be mentioned in wiki leaks or whatever.

I don't think the censorship of a topic will stop crazy fuckers like him doing dangerous things, it was more the bad reviews/libel going on.

It had nothing to do with that, the fact remains that the admins of reddit are into /r/cannibalism and at best supports of pedophiles at worst pedophiles themselves.

r/sicksadworld

I never said it would, but Reddit is under no obligation to host discussion of any topic, and when there's literal doxxing going on, they don't want to get sued, so it makes sense why they banned it.

Corey Feldman has specifically said that while elite pedophilia is a thing, pizzagate is a bullshit distraction.

Hence why confirmation of pedo rings sees it get pushed again, as a distraction.

Pizzagate has more evidence than Feldman's allegations.

Except for, you know, victims.

Except for literally having zero evidence...

I think that's mostly because people were focusing on the literal pizza aspect and not the whole picture, some of the theories were way out there and had no basis in reality but the links between high level politicians/authority figures in DC seemed to be too coincidental, I don't think pizzagate was a distraction in its entirety but I do believe there was information sprinkled in meant to distract people and deter people.

There's a great deal of evidence to support investigating Pizzagate. Additionally, historic evidence of prior Pizzagate-type operations exist involving high-level politicians, including the White House.

Historic Evidence: Franklin Scandal -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVJPAFOYwY DC Call Boy ring -- https://ibb.co/c2ZHVw 1983 Congressional Page sex scandal -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_congressional_page_sex_scandal Brownstone -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a31o6AfjJw The Finders Cult -- http://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/08/us/inquiry-spreads-on-6-children-and-cult.html, https://i.imgur.com/UWnzG5Q.jpg Brownstone operations from Gobie through Epstein: https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@rebelskum/what-is-operation-brownstone-a-brownstone-operation-is-it-real-more-than-likely

Pizzagate: http://adam.curry.com/art/1479936436_BKKFQUS9.html https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611 https://ibb.co/eA91qw Pizzagate Wiki: http://archive.is/ruHl6

There's a great deal of evidence to support investigating Pizzagate.

Unlike the recent stories of Hollywood abuse, among other accusations of child abuse, you know what pizzagate doesn't have?

Victims.

Not a single specific allegation of abuse. Not a single parent claiming their child had been abused. Not a single child saying they were abused. Not a single specific allegation pointing to a specific crime.

Funny, that.

Incorrect, it's never been investigated to discover CHILD victims. Most children cannot make their own criminal complaints. This is the point of the researchers, there is more than enough evidence to investigate, but it hasn't occurred. Why? They're not allowed to given the targets are in almost every seat of power.

However, I've got three names for you: Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7). https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/52098

However, I've got three names for you: Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto

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One of the more idiotic "OMG, this is proof of something nefarious, it's so weird!" things that gets passed around.

It amazes me that people keep bringing up that email with a straight face, and also saddens me to think about how lonely and disconnected from other human beings the people who think it's suspicious must be.

I've spent years prosecuting crimes, including sex crimes, in my county. I've run task force operations with local and federal law enforcement. I've assisted in drafting search warrant affidavits. The pizza gate evidence from wikileaks is ample probable cause to support an investigation.

I would instruct my detectives to interview Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto asap.

What country is that?

I would instruct my detectives to interview Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto asap.

"Oh my god, Chief, did you see this? Some woman told other party guests that the grandkids would be there and would be using the pool. We've got to get someone on this!"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

No criminal case is built in a vacuum, in conjunction with all the other evidence, the children would be interviewed and likely placed in protective custody.

Dude, no. No they would not. Do you spend time with people who have kids? Some of them are hilarious, and talk like this. Seriously, a lot of them. It's not weird.

If a child is a possible victim of a crime, they're interviewed. In fact, if a child is a suspected victim of a sexual crime, they are forensically interviewed by a specialist to avoid any leading questions.

If a child is a possible victim of a crime

What crime was committed here?

What evidence is there that a crime was committed here?

What evidence is there that these children were a victim of a crime?

Please be specific.

what would happen under normal circumstances

If you actually believe that an email telling party guests that children would be at the party would and should prompt an investigation, you don't belong in the job you claim to have.

In light of all the other evidence, those children would be interviewed. Period.

There is no other evidence. It's literally just an email from one party guest to others saying the kids are coming with her. There is absolutely zero evidence suggesting the kids might have been abused, tying the grandmother to abuse, suggesting the kids were entering an abusive environment, and so on.

Once again, if you actually believe that an email would and should prompt an investigation, you don't belong in the fictional job you claim to have.

There is a great deal of evidence and those children should be interviewed asap. Unfortunately, the Evie, the baby streamed 24/7, cannot call the police to complain.

Pizzagate: http://adam.curry.com/art/1479936436_BKKFQUS9.html https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611 https://ibb.co/eA91qw Pizzagate Wiki: http://archive.is/ruHl6

There is a great deal of evidence

No. There is none. Zero. Nada. Zilch. There is absolutely zero evidence suggesting the kids might have been abused, tying the grandmother to abuse, suggesting the kids were entering an abusive environment, and so on. If there was, you'd post it instead of vague, nebulous nonsense. You don't because it doesn't exist.

the Evie, the baby streamed 24/7

If you're going to literally make shit up - in addition to your supposed credentials, I mean - why should anyone believe anything you post?

Whether you're purposely making things up or just don't know what you're talking about is unclear, but the baby wasn't streamed 24/7. It was nothing more than a blog with family pictures.

Keep trying.

Look I'm not going to downvote you because it would probably give conspiracy folks more vindication that "powerful forces" are trying to silence your message, but if your message is that normal people don't enjoy kids having fun at their events/parties, I think you need to revaluate your message. I have young nephews and nieces, and my family has fun watching them run around and act ridiculous and, yes, sometimes play in a pool or the ocean or a lake. That's how people work. Kids are funny, and a lot of people enjoy their company. It has nothing to do with sex. I can't believe I need to explain this.

All they've said is they're going to investigate. Like how the UK parliament investigated their paedophilia allegations...

The only thing is in the US local law enforcement I think is more separated from the larger government and in the UK local police departments have more autonomy comparatively

This is a good point. On the other hand this could be a negative. I am following the Danny Masterson allegations and it seems that Scientology's ability to did their tentacles into one department, L.A., led to the burial of the allegations against Masterson. Im not advocating more oversight by state or federal officers over local officers but I am afraid that it is easier to bury a story buying off one jurisdiction than it is in the UK where it sounds like I would have to pay off local, national, and even MPs to silence my problems.

oh, we didnt investigate our 90+ pedo MPs in Westminster, UK in the end. The reason was "we deleted the files by accident" and closed the case to save the witnessnesses the pain of giving their testimony all over again. So, case closed. Move along.

sucks to be right the entire time. Just shows who's really running the social media platforms. When the Saudis, politicians and other rich people got stakes in the social media platform.

I think people should just wonder how someone who owns a small pizza place is considered so powerful. That question seems to have been buried by all the craziness.

So powerful they couldn't even stop some edgy shitlord from going in and shooting the place up because of you guys. Sounds like a lot of power.

You guys? Didn't realize I was part of a group.

Sorry I had to be the one to break it to you. Feelsbadman

Can you define this group?

The non-pedophiles group.

r/sicksadworld

Yeah, maybe we should just stop talking about possible child abuse rings just incase a crazy person tries to take things into their own hands. (Not that I actually believe that whole thing wasn't just an attempt to make people like you blame the people talking about it for the actions of an individual)

I mean, while we're at it, maybe we should just stop talking about any conspiracies involving living persons just incase a mentally ill person does something stupid.

psstt... that's part of the plan of the jewish world conspiracy... i've seen many homeless people that were part of it too. They would make you believe they're harmless, but then someday. Well some of that jewish conspiracy weren't jewish at all, okay to be correct it was only two persons out of 26, but they must be the masters behind those evil plans. :)

This is the craziness I was referring to.

WHY?

Simple. At the time of the article Alefantis was dating David Brock. Brock was for all intents and purpose the head of the DNC propaganda arm. Clearly Brock was and is far more powerful or influential yet not on the list.....; WHY?

Because putting Brock on the list would blow his cover and operation. so instead of Brock they put his lover who also happens to run a very popular pizza place that hosts major politicians regularly....

BTW it is a subjective fucking list for all we know maybe james blew the dude who wrote it and gave him $1500.

Why put these people on a list at all? Why not just put all the politicians and/or business people that everyone would expect to be on the list?

Because how fuxkinf boring is that? Magazines are is business to make money...

Furthermore I offered up 2 very logical reasons why and you are not satisfied....

Let me ask you..... which is more plausible? The two scenarios I outlined or Alefantis is on the list because he is a gate keeper of a pedo ring......

Hey asshole. Tell me were I ever said he was the gate keeper of a pedo ring.

i didn't think of this

He wasn't the only, or highest ranked, restaurant owner on that list from GQ. I think there were also wedding planners higher up then him. It's a bullshit list.

Sounds like he has a lawsuit against GQ for bringing him all this trouble. Did he sue?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/22/james-alefantis-dc-power-player-blasts-insane-redd/

"One of the most powerful people in DC" - he's not powerful because of his pizza parlor, he's powerful because of his political connections. The pizza parlor is where they meet.

Nothing in that article explains why he is powerful.

Lol to bad they're in on it.

pizzagate is related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong, John Podesta, his emails and and others mentioned in connection to those. Just because those people know people in hollywood, does not make the abuse in hollywood part of pizzagate.

If you want to start something new about all the pedophilia and abuse scandals going on around the country and the world, thats fine, but it doesnt make everything involved with pizzagate.

did anyone ever say pedophilia in general was a hoax?

why are people desperate to link the comet ping pong alefantis hillary angle with general pedophilia?

pizzagate is a hoax. sex crimes are not

How do you know it's a hoax? Do you think the Hillary E-mails are fake? Or you've got some other explanation for their contents?

their contents or their contents as they relate to 4chan madlibs?

I think you mean Podestas emails.

And they do that show any signs of child sex abuse.

And they don't show any signs of child sex abuse.

Of course they do, all you have to do is plug them into your secret 4chan decoder ring, only $4.99 plus shipping and handling, delivered in 4-8 weeks.

did anyone ever say pedophilia in general was a hoax?

Nope. Everyone agrees pedophilia and child abuse are real, and everyone also agrees that when people in power are guilty of it, they are often protected by those around them. There have been many examples of this, and no doubt there will be many more.

That's why the pizzagate folks have attempted to move the goalposts and say it's about child abuse in general. Because the Alefantis and Podesta accusations lack a pretty crucial thing if you're going to accuse someone of abusing child: actual victims.

But hey, if we can just say that pizzagate = all child abuse, then we can do like OP is trying to do and anytime an example of abuse happens we can say, "See, proof that pizzagate is real!"

Actual victims? Don't tell Madeline McCann that. Do your homework and quit reciting the "debunkers handbook".

I think you should really think critically about your argument. It is possible there's more general child molesting going on and pizzagate was half truths meant to lead people away from the truth

pizzagate is a hoax

Can you please explain James Alefantis' pedophilic instagram posts, Bill Clinton rescuing Laura Silsby when she was caught kidnapping 33 children from Haiti, and Barack Obama's $65,000 hot dog party with "waitresses"?

good Lord want me to reinvent the wheel while im at it? the work has been done. i find it hard to believe you havent seen the explanations behind all 3 of your shallow facade arguments

the work has been done.

Do you have a source? I need to see evidence. The questions I asked are absolutely reasonable.

bravo man. This guys name matches out

Alefantis is great friends with Michael Maccoby whose son is a director of friends of the orphans, the charity Laura Silsby was given children from(for child trafficking). Max Maccoby, director of friends of the orphans, also represented James alefantis and David Brock for a $850,000 blackmail case (I'll link with all the info). Alefantis had several strange photos of children on his Instagram, most with jokes of selling children.

Oh and here. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1523591

Podesta received strange emails such as https://twitter.com/_makada_/status/805656957109567489

And this same lady that offered her children also offered their services on this website https://twitter.com/franseenwrites/status/832396005706461184

https://archive.is/JGhR6

The New York Times calls Alefantis and Podesta friends. Alefantis Instagram photos are riddled with images of children, jokes of murder and selling kids. Here's him calling a friend a chicken lover http://www.definition-of.com/chicken%20lover

http://archive.is/2XUmH

Here's Alefantis being called out in 2008 http://archive.is/ezdQE

Here's people posting about comet ping pong https://archive.is/FMLbx https://archive.fo/mKH6M

James Alefantis' sister, Susan Alefantis wrote a letter in support of a teacher who was convicted of molesting 5 girls:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/835178/kloman-letter-writers.pdf

Here is an article on the abuser: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/potomac-school-investigation-uncovers-more-alleged-abuse/2014/06/30/57abfa0e-0072-11e4-8fd0-3a663dfa68ac_story.html

Here's Hillary hiding a pedophilia scandal reported on MSM https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKo-GjOliJmNOLGxHqPP2EtryViDCcRmEe3pLbdaXn2szNPoT6X766hE5rGA_QQ76WSI_lyCaHAloeknOf_ka3t7b6ZHIA&v=HadGh0LcXxs

Here's a lot more links https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/5bsxv4/weird_pizza_in_washington/

"Cheese pizza" means c porn (news story) http://archive.is/7Gd69

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Don't bother, they aren't here to contest the truth. They honor men more than they honor the truth.

Thanks for posting this stuff. We need to make sure people see it. While the trolls, dupes, and bots don't care, people see it and people are curious so we need to keep making sure this information is there to be seen!

This is one of the more obvious shill accounts I've seen recently. And I've seen some shill accounts lately.

I'm sure you have

Removed. Rule 10.

Wow -6 downvoted? Yikes...

The gatekeepers are here today

Because it's all fucking old, man. Maybe there aren't as many believers as you think.

I think pizzagate was a series of leads that just went way off the rails. I don't believe comet ping pong is a sex dungeon, or the spirit cooking, satanism, cannibalism stuff.

However, I do not find it far fetched that the rumors about Epstein's island are true and there is a very large crowd of the world's elite including Hollywood, politicians, musicians, etc. That engage in very sinister sexual acts and use drugs openly together at these parties. People like these would kill for a place where the boys/girls are provided and won't tell anyone and you don't have to worry about cameras.

absolutely. theyre rich and powerful and every other desire gets catered to, i dont find it that hard to believe. its when its becomes politically motivated smearing of a rival when i get suspicious, especially when based upon 4chan 'guides for interpreting other peoples conversations'

The "pizzagate was olitically motivated" argument is a tried and true strawman the media came up with back last November/December...

It's sad that we all had to come out and make it known that our investigation wasn't politically motivated. Infact, this whole sub largely rejects the two party system. We just wanted to expose bad people, regardless of party affiliation, but they branded us as an alt-right witch hunt.

Nobody is denying the Franklin Scandal which implicated high level republicans. Nobody is denying Dennis Hastert, longest serving Rep. speaker (and best friend of Tony Podesta) was a pedophile. So stop using that bullshit.

I don't believe comet ping pong is a sex dungeon

And most investigators didn't either. It was a disinfo tactic from CTR.

or the spirit cooking, satanism, cannibalism stuff.

Uhhh it doesn't matter if you don't believe it. They were doing it. Well not confirmed for the cannibalism, But eating "Human cake" is totally normal am I right?

Pizzagate was the term used for the specific investigation of Comet ping pong (And others related to CPP) that are DIRECTLY connected to the deep state pedo ring.

pizzagate is a hoax. sex crimes are not

Haha...you have much to learn

Not every single detail of the massive investigation known as "pizzagate" has to do with comet ping pong, James alefantis, and John podesta.

And not every detail is agreed upon by every user here. But the media backlash, the censorship, the staged shooting at the pizza place, those are all classic reactions by TPTB to something very real. Many of us watched pizzagate unfold from the start, I can assure you it is not a "hoax"...

Plus why does PG always have to be associated with the wacky idea of a sexy dungeon in comet ping pong? Lol...very few of us ever implied that. It can be a broad term used to describe all the revelations that came about last October following the podesta email leaks.

Stop muddying the waters.

Stop muddying the waters.

youre muddying the waters by saying pizzagate can be as much or as little as anyone says it is, even though its based on a fake 4chan translation guide

We have our first "catch of the day" I see...

The root of the investigation is the emails pal, not the translation guide you speak of. And these codewords were confirmed by actual Anonymous pedophiles and members of that "culture" who frequent 4 chan.

I've never heard John podesta come out and explain his emails and the language he used in them, have you?

Keep trying to protect pedophiles though and deter people away from taking part in a citizen investigation you weirdo ✌️

without the guide the emails would be as innocuous as any other overheard conversations lmao

as for this

Keep trying to protect pedophiles though

way to demonstrate your arguments cant stand on their own legs :)

without the guide the emails would be as innocuous as any other overheard conversations

"The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free not to respond if it's not yours or you don't want it."

Ok, Columbo, what is John's "pizza related handkerchief"? The fuck is he talking about? It surely isn't an actual handkerchief with a "pizza map" on it. Is it drugs? If you admit they're referring to drugs, than you admit the code words mean SOMETHING.

No intellectual can dance around this email. Try all you want but you'll just look stupid and desperate.

Also, another favorite of mine...

instead of asking someone who wasnt involved in the conversation to explain their words, the burden of proof is on the person alleging that this conversation is indication of a child sex ring

as for your second example, I like your strategy. Accuse someone of sexual abuse, then build the case retroactively by viewing all their actions as sexual abuse.

do you go to playgrounds and shake your fist at all the sick grownups smiling and watching their kids play?

honestly if you cant at least accept that MAYBE youre misinterpreting the context of these emails then I think we're done. You dont seem to believe anyone can mention children without being a predator.

Honestly man, we're all just fucking tired of dealing with people like you who shit on independent Investigatory work. I just find it extremely odd how defensive and protective, in a Conspiracy related sub, some of you can be regarding elite public figures who have done NOTHING to benefit your lives, and done NOTHING for you to give them the benefit of the doubt in this...

You can hide behind, "well I'm just being skeptical and thinking critically like a good theorist should!", but at the end of the day your stance of plugging your ears and talking down to anyone putting in the work, is not only childish but an embarrassment to the nature of this sub...

Like I said, good luck in your campaign.

base your independent investigations on facts, dont jump to conclusions, stop doxxing the wrong people

just do a good fucking job and the work would unimpeachable.

Instead we have quite the opposite. My guess would be thats because the investigation is working backwards: starting with a desired conclusion and riding the confirmation bias train around and back to that conclusion in a pointless circle, tossing aside evidence that doesnt fit and forcing the rest in

I think youre wrong about most of the sub buying into pizzagate. SInce we've stopped being bombarded by it in inorganic fashion the sub has definitely turned. I havent seen that argumentum ad populum (Based on an untruth in the first place) in a while but its great to have you guys back.

I'm fucking tired of people saying i can't explain the same goddamn things over and over. All of it is easily explainable. And moreover, there is no evidence of crimes, not even allegations of crime. The only thing that comes close is the McCann pictures.

I just wanted to say your username is very fitting for this conversation.

The sex dungeon is a straw man argument

Because it seems the vast majority of people on this sub are violently raging Trump zombies, any excuse they can come up with to bring back Pizzagate will be used. It's fucking crazy town!

well if they dont bring pizzagate back from the dead, it seems pizzagate WAS a hoax, and that would make them have to admit they were wrong about something they were zealots about, and THAT is a bad, unacceptable feeling!

Pizzagate is 1000% real. There is ABSOLUTELY an elite pedophile ring in Washington.

Right. And Oswald acted alone, 9/11 was masterminded by OBL and fluoride is good for you. What are you doing here? And if pizzagate is a "hoax" maybe you can explain why my local news did an excellent investigative piece on it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-GZFHLAcG8A

I'm sure you are more well read on the subject than the professional journalist, so get debunking. You may even earn a little overtime.

Professional Journalist!

Uh huh. Excellent retort. You may go now.

I haven't seen that Ben Swan segment in a long time and god damn it's good. Pizzagate is very compelling and perhaps what's more compelling is the paid resistance to push back in astroturfing campaigns.

Bimmer love!

They are obviously connected. Why else would the FBI be investigating Weinstein?

Hollywood is the media and the media ran cover for pizzagate. They are allies.

Say shit like this all you want, but reddit isn't obligated to do anything you might want them to do.

There are many celebrities naming people that harassed or touched them.

What makes Corey Feldman so special he can't name those he accused?

he’s started to

r/pedogate

Except this doesn't seem to have much to do with a basementless pizza place.

You want tons of people doxxed and for morons to show up at Famous Ray's with automatic weapons?

Because this is how you get tons of people doxxed and for morons to show up at Famous Ray's with automatic weapons.

Would probably be a good thing if we just went Salem and started burning all the pedos alive.

you mean everyone that 4chan alleges is a pedo

seems like a great idea

No they should not. Hollywood was never discussed. Pizzaate was about a pizza place in D. C.

Dont mix hoaxes with actual cases. Let it go.

Pizzagate runs way deeper than a pizza shop.

there are tunnels under that shop!

Saying pizzagate was only about a pizza place in DC is like saying Parkinson's disease is only about James Parkinson.

Pizzagate only became about something else once a lunatic went in and shot up the place and the entire thing got debunked.

I saw posts on here laying out basement plans and shit while the actual place didnt even have a basement.

I seen people investigating a pedo ring. It seemed the staring point was a pizza place in DC. Maybe you should check more sources so you didn't get tricked into saying pizza gate was only about a pizza place in DC. Maybe someone had a good reason not to believe James Alefantis. That doesn't mean everyone investigating the pedo ring had the same idea.

Yep. Investigate and then quash. Classic crony police work coming right up.

queue shills: "Pizzagate is ONLY about one pizzeria in DC"

What's not a hoax is that Trump was close friends with Jeff Epstein who ran an actual child sex ring.

But for some odd reason this sub doesn't want to talk about that.

Don't forget Virginia Roberts worked for Mar-A-Lago before being recruited by Epstein as a sex slave. This is all in court records. Yet people here will believe any smear against Dem politicians or Hollywood elites as truth without evidence.

You forgot to type it as (((Hollywood Elites)))

oops!

That must be why he banned peste in from Maralago

That must be why he banned epstein from Maralago because they're friends

On September 27, 2007 — a few weeks before the New York Post reported that Epstein was banned from Mar-A-Lago — Epstein acknowledged guilt in "knowingly and willfully conspiring with others known and unknown to… persuade, induce, or entice minor females to engage in prostitution."

What do you think that proves exactly?

Is that not enough?

So you're telling me they didn't ban him until AFTER he was in trouble with police for child sex trafficking? Because that is clearly not the case.

Yes clearly it's a connection you cannot prove. The simplest expaination would be that he didn't know until then

Dude. Trump said in an interview Epstein was a terrific guy he'd known for 15 years and who liked women just like he does. He admitted it!

There's no evidence Trump banged a kid but him and Epstein were both accused of raping one AND Epstein plead the 5th amendment when asked directly about him and Trump. His own brother gave sworn testimony he rode with them on the Lolita Express yet no manifests exist. You don't think a billionaire can cover something up with hush money?

Right, but Bill Clinton can't have his rides removed? And all the other huge names on his logs?

It sounds like he's not as close of friends with Epstein then. Or a billionaire. Or the POTUS.

What are you trying to argue? Rothschild's have their name on the logs but Trump is immune according to you? Can you explain what you're trying to say because I might be misunderstanding...

I'm not arguing anything. I'm stating facts. You're the one arguing.

How does flying on a plane or not prove pedo rape? I mean I'm sure it helps but it's literally just a book you write in like a guest book.

I'm guessing the people who are in there didn't consider it or have nothing to hide. And they also haven't been running for president for the past few years.

You've stated a few facts and used leading questions and statements. You're arguing Trump's name isn't on there because he planned on running for president, is a billionaire, and an acquaintance makes him off the books, but a sitting president (26 rides on Lolita express) isn't powerful enough... Bill Clinton. And other billionaires (Rothschild) aren't either.

Either way, Epstein is quite introverted and cautious. It is definitely possible there is more to his relationship with Trump. I can't rule that out as a conspiracy theorist. You helped me realize I might be a little biased so thanks for that. Good day sir.

But for some reason (only) this sub (will) talk about it.

To be fair, an erroneous report linking Epstein to Anthony Weiner is what caused people to look into pedophilia among Dems in the first place. The first place they looked was Podesta's emails.

Buzzfeed had it right but had to back away from this because the public isn't supposed to know the Clintons were involved with Epstein and his crew. The press intentionally limited Pizzagate to a pizza place basement. https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/fever-swamp-election?utm_term=.xhKEjLP9Q9#.fuN7380pkp

It's ok though. Hollywood blog, Crazy Days and Nights, will soon break that Singer and Spacey (and perhaps Geffen) were having sex with kids on Epstein's island. It's all coming out whether they try to distract from it or not.

Ok. I can't tell if I agree with you or not.

People either seem to care about those abused or seek to only use them as a political weapon.

I'm not really sure how the public isn't supposed to know something that's common knowledge. Although there has to be massive amounts of blackmail and payoffs to keep people silent and manifests buried.

Trump signaled that Epstein was a pedophile through the "he likes them young" comment, But keep trying to smear Trump.

Trump signaled that Epstein was a pedophile through the "he likes them young" comment

You realize using quotes means it's supposed to be something someone actually said right? Here's the actual quote:

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

Hmm. Yeah that looks very bad. How can we spin that to look good? Oh I know! Say he's undercover!

But keep trying to smear Trump.

I don't need to smear him. He does that fine on his ow.

Wait do you think he said that he also liked them young? That's clearly not what he said. Your delusional.

I don't need to smear him. He does that fine on his ow.

Every single "bad" thing he has said is just MSM smearing. Go ahead and provide any you want. They are easily debunkable.

You're biased. Unlike you I'm not married to anyone involve in this. That's why you just made up a fake quote and why I used the real one.

But I t's pretty sad you admit Trump knew in 2002 his friend was a child sex pimp yet he didn't tell anyone and instead just decided to "signal" it in a magazine interview.

But hey let's forget that. Look at this pizzaria that's not at all easily debunkable 4chan hoax designed to focus on democrats.

Meanwhile the actual sex ring is covered up by Trump? lol.

You're biased. Unlike you I'm not married to anyone involve in this. That's why you just made up a fake quote and why I used the real one.

They mean the same fucking thing. Fuck off. And I'm pretty sure your hating bias overrides any of my bias.

But it's pretty sad you admit Trump knew in 2002 his friend was a child sex pimp yet he didn't tell anyone and instead just decided to "signal" it in a magazine interview.

He didn't "Signal" it he fucking SIGNALED it. Like literally "YOO THIS GUY A PEDO YO" tier signalling. And then he also called out Hillary stealing whole Villages from Haiti at the Red Dinner.

But hey let's forget that. Look at this pizzaria that's not at all an easily debunkable 4chan hoax

Those dozens of suspicious emails with obvious code usage were debunked? Those dozens of Instagram pictures from CPP were debunked? Those spirit cooking emails and pictures were debunked? Those many connections to convicted pedophiles were debunked? That "art" Tony Podesta has in his home were debunked? Or how about that police sketch of two people who kidnapped Madeline McCain? John and Tony Podesta look awfully similar. They also happend to of been living within miles of the kidnapping at the time. In fact they are so similar Tony even has a mole in the same spot! What a coincidence am I right fellow "Conspiracy Theorist"?

Also a hoax is something fake. Are any of those things fake?

designed to focus on democrats a week before the election.

A WEEK? Ok clearly you don't know what the fuck your talking about.

Meanwhile the actual sex ring is covered up by Trump? That's fucked up.

Are you talking about Epsteins pedo island? Are you actually implying Trump covered it up?

TL;DR angry biased Trumpette wants to debate. I'm bored.

You using the word Trumpette just proves your bias.

*LAPD confirms it will continue to turn a blind eye

/r/pedogate - Your contributions are most welcome, but it's more of a summary/news sub than an active investigation.

Http://voat.co/v/pizzagate - Lots of active investigation here.

Reddit doesn't want a witch-hunt, remember guys? Don't need subs like pizzagate and pedogate exposing too many people and asking questions that need to be asked. Also, don't forget, when you get too close to the truth, your posts will be edited by Reddit to include false info.

Sure they are...

pizza gate never was a fucking hoax and that was OBVIOUS for anyone who was on reddit during its inception, also funny how the term fake news came out right when pizzagate was blowing up.

IIRC, wasn't "fake news" first used by Hillary Clinton when her emails were being investigated, then picked up by Trump to mock her?

Pretty sure there is a new pizza gate sub

Here’s a little PR help: PLEASE DON’T CALL IT PIZZAGATE. Credibility is underrated.

Kind of like how they were investigating Notorious BIG's murder until they found out it was related to their employees and they dropped it?

Riiiiiight.

Interesting. A pretty well known truther called 'TruthMediaFilms' (formerly known as TruthMediaRevolution) just deleted all of his videos after he researched the YouTube pedophile network... https://imgur.com/a/nVOi2

The shills jump on board at the term "pizzagate." Look at this thread... Subtle lies being spread.

Pizzagate is real = Pedogate = Hollywood. Pizzagate is not a hoax.

Easy dots to connect. How was pizzagate defeated in the media if the pedos arent all on the same team?

Soon pizzagate advocates will be saying "who's Alefantis?". People can't handle the embarrassment of being wrong. It's like Gamergate and Zoe Quinn all over again.

/u/spez likes to fiddle kiddies. Won't happen

Nice to see the shills working OT in this thread 👎🏻

I know right, they will do anything to protect their perfect little strawman that Pizzagate was about an outrageous conspiracy theory spread by conservative neo Nazis being manipulated by Russian propaganda, all at the mouthpiece of one convenient gatekeeper Alex Jones, who's ridiculous but strategic statements result in quite the effective psyop to the masses as they use this 'controlled opposition' as a tool. Meanwhile poor Edgar strolls into the innocent neighborhood pizza place 'demanding answers' and waving a gun because his poor little brain was manipulated..."this is why conspiracy theories are dangerous" says the puppeteers, and the hammer has struck the nail, they build on that and now use it to completely burn down their tiny little strawman, "Pedogate is all these creepy entertainers!" They say as they shove made men like Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein under the bus with a suitcase of cash and a one way ticket to a "small island off the coast of Japan" just like their pal Denny Hastert.

“LAPD, I must bring to your attention, as surely you didn’t know, that your Overlords are criminals.” “Thank you for your report, citizen. Your allegations will be investigated to the fullest extent and found to be wholly unsubstantiated, I can assure you. Might we suggest that in the meantime, you get your affairs in order and make peace with your God?

r/bad_cop_no_donut

Uh guys, the pizzagate subreddit wasn't shut down because it was full of crazy rantings, or because it was or wasn't "correct". It was shut down because one of you nutjobs walked into a pizza place full of families, children, and started shooting the place up.

Do you just not have memories?

Yours seems faulty because the sub was shutdown before the shooting happened.

The shooting was a false flag. Dude was an actor that got paid to run into the store, shoot up the computer and have his day in court. He got paid.

You guys say that about anyone who acts out based on conspiracies.

Yeah, it's crazy how any time there's a shooting, nutjobs claim the person involved was "an actor, paid to commit a false flag attack", while then claiming to be fighting for "truth and transparency".

Fucking A.

You're asking a company run by a cannibal to do the right thing? Seriously? #withbbqsauce

Wait what?!

MEME WARS START NOW https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOOGqOlW4AA9juu.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DONsvbTWkAAQDhD.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOOYndpW0AANAhr.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DONmGwtXUAEzrk5.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DONYl5zUIAAdM9S.jpg

Podesta, Clinton's , Weiner all taking express elevator to Hell!

Don't forget that guy who showed up to one of those pizza places with a fucking gun.

Nothing in that article explains why he is powerful.

I always suspected.

Stop muddying the waters.

youre muddying the waters by saying pizzagate can be as much or as little as anyone says it is, even though its based on a fake 4chan translation guide

The sex dungeon is a straw man argument

Actual victims? Don't tell Madeline McCann that. Do your homework and quit reciting the "debunkers handbook".

i remember this!

I think you should really think critically about your argument. It is possible there's more general child molesting going on and pizzagate was half truths meant to lead people away from the truth

You're biased. Unlike you I'm not married to anyone involve in this. That's why you just made up a fake quote and why I used the real one.

But I t's pretty sad you admit Trump knew in 2002 his friend was a child sex pimp yet he didn't tell anyone and instead just decided to "signal" it in a magazine interview.

But hey let's forget that. Look at this pizzaria that's not at all easily debunkable 4chan hoax designed to focus on democrats.

Meanwhile the actual sex ring is covered up by Trump? lol.

That cheesebay jpg is absolutely hilarious. "My wifi behaves strangely outdoors. When I put water in holes I poked on the ground, it drains at different in different areas. Also, here's a picture of a bucket. To me, dirt looks like acid-eaten body part sludge, because I'm wacky."

You using the word Trumpette just proves your bias.