Yeah... weren't people complaining for a couple years about how he always whips his dick out for no reason?

Seems like they're just rehashing old stories for social justice points. Of course we know female predators like lena dunham, hope solo, and britney griner are untouchable along with most female child molesters in general in our communities.

Wait... What's this thing about women being child molesters as well? This is new to me.

the only name i recognized was lena dunham who in her book wrote extensively on how she used to molest her younger sister when she was a kid. This continued into Lena's teen years with her masturbating next to her sleeping sister and what not.

shes a disgusting incestuous pedophile

Britney Griner is a Professional women’s basketball player. Hardly even a woman if you ask me, that bitch is terrifying to me.

I don't think her scarieness determines what sex she is lmao, what did she do?

Have you ever looked at it??

I tried googling it, got nothing! What happened?

that seems likely, not particulary a fan but as far as i know he is not really system is he? I thought he dumped the whole thing a while ago to be his own boss on the internets? Maybe it didn't work, or maybe it worked too well... :D

There have been rumors he locks female comedians in dressing rooms and masturbates in front of them.

Here's some info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAxOh2gpeX0

he works with kids on his show

He has children as well. HE HAS CHILDREN!!!!1

Pretty big difference between jerking off in front of adults and pedophilia.

not when you're a pervert

Most people are perverted, very few are perverted towards children.

Found the projecting perv.

WHAAT

Yeah I heard that at least a few years ago if not longer. It seems like the kind of thing he'd do. Not sexual nature of it to be personally gratifying like Weinstein and others, but the trolling and making someone VERY uncomfortable part to be an asshole.

Well the post below you says yes.

Can't believe it has taken two years for this rumor to play out.

A local talk show in Florida have been treating this like an open joke for years about Louis jerking off in front of female comics

I like Louis CK but I've also been waiting a long time to see what the deal with the rumors are.

It gives a whole different meaning to a lot of his material if he actually does weird/inappropriate shit.

Especially the 'all men are secretly depraved perverts' bit. Projecting much there, Louis? Ecch.

it's not projection if he literally includes himself in the claim

He's still projecting onto other men

Totally. Trying to rationalize his abandonment of personal accountability.

word fair enough

Maybe projection isn’t the right word, but if the allegations are true, he’s definitely trying to rationalize his own behavior with the “all men are perverts” angle.

You know what you're right. I should have said hiding in plain sight. Did you notice the rhyme? I thought you might.

What a dub statement

I honestly could not stand his last show. so out of touch. and the way he shilled for shillary makes sense now. really bummed out Conan seems to do a lot of damage control right now. bill clinton on his show, going to israel etc. I really think he is the best in the biz... too bad

Dude, Conan looks so bummed, he can't hide the guests he must do now.

Another one bites the dust

More sacrificial lambs

The interesting thing is that all of these allegations are just people talking. No evidence, really. You could get five women to say the same thing about any politician, any famous person, actor, comedian... and no more career. It doesn't matter if it's true or not.

In Louis' case, man... I really liked his work. If it's true, it's too bad for his career, his family... and of course for the women he was inappropriate with.

I wonder if Hollywood is picking the low fruit on the trees and throwing them under the bus intentionally. To keep our attention away from... what?

You nailed it Pal.

It's called a "limited hangout". They're getting rid of the low fruit as you said, busting them with sex related crimes, hoping to either appease us and make us stop pursuing them, or take our attention off of pedophiilia being prevalent in politics, royal family, former presidents and social leaders; the "big fish".

And my guess is one or two of the low hanging fruit will be falsely accused, and be able to prove it. When they do and start talking about how these allegations ruined their life when the "big fish" scandal comes out there will be terror in the ranks of the media to report it. They will also sue, and win hefty settlements. This will further quell any revelations, true or not, and the story dies. It is brilliant. Sick but brilliant.

And my guess is one or two of the low hanging fruit will be falsely accused, and be able to prove it.

Literally no evidence has come out about this yet -- I've not even heard any claims of this. Why are you starting with this, why do their work for them?

And my guess is one or two of the low hanging fruit will be falsely accused, and be able to prove it.

Literally no evidence has come out about this yet -- I've not even heard any claims of this. Why are you starting with this, why do their work for them?

And my guess is one or two of the low hanging fruit will be falsely accused, and be able to prove it.

Literally no evidence has come out about this yet -- I've not even heard any claims of this. Why are you starting with this, why do their work for them?

I understand it goes so high you lose your breath but is Spacey really a low hanging fruit? I thing they started with a very prolific actor and working downwards ( Masterson, Sheen..)

Weinstein is one of the most powerful men in the history of that industry. Low fruit?

Testimony is evidence. Its also the only kind of evidence available in most of these cases.

I wasn't really talking about Weinstein. I was talking about Kevin Spacey. I think Weinstein really pissed someone powerful off, and they decided to throw him to the sharks. It happened fast. One day "everybody knew" and the next day the media was actively attacking him. Almost as if they had marching orders. It looked coordinated. After listening to the morning news hitpiece on the car radio on the way to work, I said to myself "That guy really pissed someone off." Watching the MSM over the next 48 hours was amazing. It was totally coordinated.

How is it different than any other big story of this type. When so many people in an industry knows, then its a huge story very quickly. I don't see how this has to be coordinated. In fact it would be extremely hard to coordinate.

But the "everybody knows" for Weinstein in particular went back decades. Why all the sudden?

Because when it breaks, there is a rush for your organization to have their own reporting. And once someone that powerful has people speaking out, all the other victims now have cover where they didn't before. This is pretty normal for this stuff. Given what we have learned about his targeting of his victims with former Mossad agents for investigation and harassment when they didn't speak out, it's completely understandable.

And once someone that powerful has people speaking out

You just explained it yourself.. people are terrified of being sued or repercussions. So all you have to do is control the people at the top and everyone follows suit.

Not hard at all when you control the media. The media is controlled by a few powerful entities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH8dejYGa5A

No it isn't. There is more variety of media available to people than at any time in human history. The notion that some small group controls all info is ridiculous. Think about just 30 years ago. There were four channels that had news. That's it. So we are to believe that somehow now its more consolidated? Bullshit. That's a belief to fit a story, not reality.

Did you watch the video I just linked to?

Do you realize if people come out and report on things alone or without the big media groups breaking ground they get sued? There is protection if other big companies report on something. And a couple rich groups control the big companies.

You are very naive to think the way you do. Here's a way to find out.. try it... try to make a claim like this against someone powerful and see what happens...

If you think its more centralized now than 30 years ago, you aren't thinking clearly.

It's more centralized.. the people in power have gained more power and they can bully people more financially because there is nothing to stop them.

The idea that the internet gives people more power is a joke.. we can't even be heard now because there is information overload...

Try it.. try to get some message out. I know because I have..

It's also true that they have to believe your message is worthy.

And you think the mainstream media's message is worthy? Yet we know the mainstream it's it up... and they ignore people outside of the mainstream because the mainstream tells them to. Think about it...

Their message lacking worth has no relevance to your messages' worth or non-worth.

Have you done a lot of research on alternative media? I have... Or are you just taking the mainstreams word without looking elsewhere?

I was talking about Kevin Spacey.

Also still not really low hanging fruit?

Research a journalist named Gary Webb and the CIA cocaine scandal he uncovered. Right at the same time the Lewinsky Clinton scandal blew up coincidentally. A huge scandal where no one really got in trouble.

I kinda wonder if it was his own brother that threw him under. Almost seems like everyone knew this shit would catch up to Harvey soon and his brother said fuck it.

The dude talks about masturbation constantly in his stand up, and stands there on stage "fake masturbating" infront of his audience for 30 unbearable seconds. He totally did it. Now why the media is focusing so much on this and not on Vegas is still a point. But Louis CK was totally a pervert just like all the rest of them coming down.

I don't think Harvey Weinstein was the low fruit

I mean, they did for Trump

His work was trash

Yes, another one bites the dust. That is good if the allegations are true. But he's not one of the "big shots" in Hollywood. I thought more of the big players would be exposed.

wtf is this garbage? so now whipping your dick out in front of a woman you invited back to your room after a show is a crime?

i dont quite follow how this is even a story right now when you've got rumors of straight up serial rapists....

Same here. It’s kinda seedy but this shouldn’t become a witch hunt. What are we? Puritans.

this just looks like total smoke screen to me. i mean yeah, i guess hes a creep, but if youd seen any of his material you should fully have expected it. i read the article while in appropriate im not exactly sure what they are calling "sexual misconduct" i guess being an awkward dude is now a crime, imagine if drunk women were held to the same standards here.

try a little experiment... next time you are with a female coworker, ask her to go somewhere private and start jacking off in front of her and see what happens.

im not saying its okay, im asking why the fuck its it worthy of the NYT? its one thing to complain to the boss hes a creep, its a whole other to go after him with a big public story and trying to equate him to weinstein and the pedo's that are getting taken down.

Because rumors have swirled that he frequently does this and five women come forward to confirm it. And you have seen the news in Hollywood lately, right?

Because exposing yourself without solicitation is a crime and if he was willing to do that you would be wondering what he might do next.

I can’t tell you how many times a girl would grab my ass but I don’t tweet about it every time. It’s not a big deal and neither I.S this

Just because you don't think it's a big deal, doesn't mean it isn't for others.

If I thought someone stealing my car isn't a big deal, does that mean you shouldn't be angry someone stole yours?

Just because you don't think it isn't a big deal, doesn't mean it isn't for others.

If someone stole my car and I didn't care, does that mean you shouldn't care when someone steals yours?

Unsolicited exposure is a crime. If this was your wife telling you what happened to her, how would you respond to that?

I’d ask why she I.S going to hotel rooms with other men.

This is before you met. She was with a colleague and spending time with an important figure in their industry, possibly building connections and advancing her career.

There was no indication that he had expectations of a sexual nature, she was with her colleague, the bars had closed and they wanted to continue conversation.

What would you say to her then?

They were travelling comics, this isn't a typical professional work environment. He's not employing them, they're not working for the same company. They would have an agency but otherwise they're independent entertainers.

Comedians on the road are drinking and fucking as they go. Professional conduct? There's no HR department.. There's comedy clubs, bars and they're performing in front of drunk people.

You're misrepresenting that whole scene, it's not some white collar office job.

If you read the article, you'll find that this happened to two female comedians. They were professionals that thought they were spending time with another professional, this wasn't a 'do you want to come back to my plan for sex' kind of thing. He asked them if he could masturbate in front of them and they thought it was a joke and laughed. You ask any woman in that situation, you would not be comfortable to say the least. Unsolicited exposure is illegal.

I thought the article said he invited them to his hotel on the after hours after bars were closed.

Yeah, it did. So, you've never gone back to a mates place after the bars are closed because you're having fun?

Yeah but not with someone of the opposite sex.

Why not? We are all just people. Why does sex have to even come into the equation? You think you can't spend time with someone of the opposite sex without there being some expectation of sex?

No most people do not. Especially after hours when you are partying. I do not know what fanasty world you are living in but that's not how the world works. Im not saying I like it but that's what people expect when you invite them to a hotel room after the bars close.

Don't know if you are reading the comments and the upvotes, but if you look, most people agree that yes people do do this.

And this wasn't people meeting strangers in a bar. These were people who thought they were spending time with another professional in their field. There was nothing indicating his intentions.

I was just listening to a podcast with Bert Kreisher where he mentioned being drunk late at night with a female comedian who was in a relationship and asked him if he'd masturbate in the same room with her because I guess that wasn't cheating in her eyes.

She tells him not to tell another comedian (I think Rich Vos) and the next time he sees Rich he asks Bert if that girl asked him to masturbate in front of her, so apparently this is a common thing for her.

Comedians are on the road all the time, drinking, probably fucking each other from time to time. We don't know the whole story as far as these allegations go. If Louis is a confirmed sexual predator I'll write him off, but the jury is still out in my mind.

Also do we really need to ask permission before any kind of sexual escalation? You flirt, women basically give you signals if they're into you, and the guy tries his luck. Most women I know would be instantly turned off if you asked for permission to kiss her, but you also have to be able the read the situation and realize if it's a good idea or not. Sometimes you get turned down, just don't be a dick and back off.

I've had girls kiss me seemingly out of nowhere a couple times, I wasn't attracted and was just trying to be friendly. I simply turned them down kindly and respectfully, realizing that they must have misread me.

When you have real female friends it is not too far out there.

Some people are grownups that hang out with both genders, even after bars close!

Yeah, and when they start masturbating in front of you, you walk the fuck out.

You have no idea their mental state in that moment. They could have dissociated for all you know. This could trigger prior trauma. Perps often carefully select their targets. Have some compassion please. They did nothing wrong by being chosen by him.

so women being oblivious is now a crime men are guilty of.... uh okay.

Let's take this scenario - you're out having fun with your friend. You meet someone out, enjoying each other's company. Bars have closed but you want to keep having fun so you go back to the new guys place. You're chatting and he asks if he can masturbate in front of you. Obviously he is having a laugh? Nothing else has been said that would indicate that he had any inclination that you were here for anything sexual. Then he gets undressed and starts masturbating in front of you.

How would you, personally, feel in that situation?

like an oblivious idiot for not realizing he was serious.

Well, he is a comedian. Why couldn't he be joking? It's all comedians in the room. All professionals. Why would he start doing that? If they were men in the room, instead of women, would that have been a joke then, or should the men have taken him seriously?

They would have taken it seriously. Nobody says that randomly ffs.

Snippet from the article:

'"As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”'

Nobody says that out of the blue, either. I'd be inclined to think it was a joke. The other option is the man has a screw loose because why would he have the audacity to come straight out and say that.

Plus he makes masturbation jokes often in his skits. Not out of the realm of possibility, is it?

If he asked for permission you don't think he somehow thought they were into it? Like if he didn't care if they consented why would he even ask? Why not just drop his pants immediately?

He probably misread them. Also there's not a ton of detail, how long were they in his room? Were they flirting? Did they object or express any discomfort with what he was doing?

He asked ahead of time if he could do something sexual? The horror...

Dude, they didn't say yes. They thought it was a joke. Imagine yourself in a room with another man and he asks you this. He's a comedian. Would you take him seriously? How would you feel better f he started masturbating in front of you?

Wow a miscommunication? That's like the worst thing ever

I'm sure Weinstein was all just a big misunderstanding to, right?

False equivalence to end all false equivalences. This is gold medal stuff right here.

Huh? What's the matter with you

It's a bit more than miscommunication. Whipping your dick out is coming on hella strong. Like, test the waters! Even if I was on a date with a guy and we ended up somewhere private and he asked me this, I would think it's a joke. Who would be that brash? And if he started then I'd be super uncomfortable. If there was no prior indication that he wanted to do something sexual, and there was no relationship or expectation from both parties, this is not miscommunication. This is a guy who decided he would like to masturbate and did not take into consideration that he did not indicate to the other parties involved that this was what he wanted them there for.

Yikes, before there were prenups, now we need prehookup contracts to deal with these insane women.

If you go back with a guy after hours alone to a private location, and he says, "Can I take my dick out?". He's going to take his fucking dick out. Lmao.

Then I would suggest you say no. Some women would have no problem with something like that

"You ask any woman in that situation, you would not be comfortable to say the least" because of the implication...

Sorry, I don't quite understand. What do you mean by implication?

The implication is that you are alone with a man that just did something very sexually aggressive without your consent, so what else is he about to do or capable of?

Okay, I getcha. I'm on board.

You know... the imlication! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE

Right, the implication! So, no one is in any danger wink

now whipping your dick out in front of a woman you invited back to your room after a show is a crime

been a crime for a while if it wasnt consensual lmao

are we supposed to ask them to sign the consent forms before or after inviting them to the room for a "nightcap"?

you just have to ask them lmao, apparently Louis over here didnt

"hey wanna come back to my room and watch me jerk off" " ahhaha your so funny"

-takes out dick " oh, you were serious, uhhhhh awkward..."

"hey wanna come back to my room and watch me jerk off" " ahhaha your so funny"

i didnt see a yes in there, so no consent.

a crime.

this is simple stuff mate

Not so simple innit

Learn how consent works. Hint: It isn't announcing your intentions and just plowing forward.

Actually, they went back to his before that was mentioned. He gave no indication that he wanted anything sexual from them until they were at his place. If he had of been up front, things would have turned out differently. Actually give someone a choice.

He did, didn't he? He asked them if he could take his dick out. They said yes, he took his dick out.

Nobody forces you to sit there and watch somebody masturbate lmao.

Snippet from the article:

'As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”'

Don't know about you, but I see no indication of them saying yes.

And no, they weren't forced to, but shock does weird things. Like I said in another comment, when my aunt told my mum their gran had died they both started laughing hysterically. Emotions are not plain and simple and when you are shocked or uncomfortable, sometimes you can't take yourself out of the situation. Heard the term deer in the headlights? You have fight, you have flight and you have freeze.

Your fucked up mom and aunt's reactions to unexpected bad news really don't compare to this situation at all though. He asked before he did it and they thought he was joking but it turned out he wasn't. How is that his fault??? Since we're sharing dumb family anecdotes for some reason now, I once asked my dad if I could paint my room matte black when I was a teenager and he said "yeah sure, that sounds like a great idea" and then I got in trouble when I did it a few weeks later because he maintained that he was "so clearly being sarcastic". I'm telling you, it wasn't that long ago that "not saying no" basically WAS consent.

Based on your posts in this thread I can only guess that you're a virgin and fresh out of countless school/church/progressive-parent discussions about the crucially important concept of "consent", but that whole thing (which is definitely important!) just flat out didn't exist until relatively recently. As a woman born in the seventies I have to tell you that this "scandal" these women are describing make him seem almost chivalrous for asking if they minded if he indulged his personal kink in the first place, though I'm sure in your mind I'm just another rapist apologist.

I think this attack on Louis CK is kinda bullshit. It's clearly either a couple nobodies jumping on the bandwagon, or, more likely imo, is actually a calculated character assassination of an awkward guy with an embarrassing kink all to water-down the WAY WAY WAY worse accusations about others much more powerful than him.

I didn't enjoy his last couple shows personally, and idgaf how people get off as long as nobody gets hurt, but this mob attacking him for masturbating after asking women if they minded reminds me SO MUCH of the time my entire jr high school seemed to join in relentlessly mocking the weird fat kid for abruptly kissing one of the popular girls (on the mouth, and in the crowded school hallway) when she put her hand on his shoulder and said "thank you" while returning a book she had borrowed in the last period. It was brutal and is one of those things I hate myself for not speaking up about, especially since in retrospect this poor kid was so clearly "on the spectrum" that he probably shouldn't have been left to fend for himself in mainstream classes :(

Asking if he can jerk off in front of other adults is NOTHING like the rapes and coercion and abuse we've been talking about. Anyone who argues it is, really isn't capable of reason.

I don't see the point you're trying to make with your comments.

He should be exposed even if he didn't touch them, what he was doing isn't right and he shouldn't do it, it isn't normal, do you understand this?

Just because there was no rape involved, doesn't mean we should just ignore it and not tell everyone that this dude has issues.

apparently Louis over here didnt, i dont understand why people think consent is such an obstacle

Did you not read the article? He asked if he could do it every time, and the time a woman said no, he didn't do it.

So, that time he started telling a woman is his sexual fantasies over the phone and masturbating, did he ask that time?

Did anyone ever say yes to him? I'd be flabbergasted in that situation and find it difficult to probably say anything.

So, that time he started telling a woman is his sexual fantasies over the phone and masturbating, did he ask that time?

The accuser didn't even know for sure if he was masturbating while on the phone with her.

Did anyone ever say yes to him?

The two women who went back to his hotel room who said "we didn't think he'd actually do it", and then sat there admittedly laughing while he did.

Only one woman said she said no, and he didn't do anything, and that was that.

I'll give you that, but the chances are pretty high. The two comedians never said yes to him. And as for the laughing, have you never heard of hysterics? Sometimes when people are shocked or extremely uncomfortable they don't react emotionally the way you would expect them to. For example, my aunt tuned up at our house one day and told my mum that their grandmother had died. They both burst out laughing. They laughed for ages until they cried. Emotions are a weird thing. This is not unbelievable to me. They said they were in shock.

Sounds like your genetics are faulty. Might wanna try to improve them if you want yoir offspring to survive in the big bad world. Lmao.

The two comedians never said yes to him.

The article very specifically dances around not saying what their response is, but judging by all the context clues, and the fact that had he had done it without their consent this would be a whole different, bigger story, I think it's pretty clear they consented. "We didn't think he'd actually do it" sounds like they said yes, but didn't expect him to actually do it.

And as for the laughing, have you never heard of hysterics?

C'mon now, they themselves talked about how they were laughing when he asked, and during it. They weren't both laughing like someone just died and they had a weird emotional response, they laughed because some doughy, then no-name comedian was whacking it in front of them.

Oh and not saying no does not constitute yes.

I can almost guarantee they said yes.

Snippet from the article:

'As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”'

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. You are reading into things and attempting to put words into people's mouths. Make all the excuses you want, this was unsolicited behaviour. If you think otherwise, good luck with your future law suits.

Shock is shock. They stated they were in shock. Many women would find being in that situation to be traumatic. If you can't empathise, that's fine, but it's not fair of you to tell someone what is and isn't a legitimate emotional response. We all function differently.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. You are reading into things and attempting to put words into people's mouths. Make all the excuses you want, this was unsolicited behaviour. If you think otherwise, good luck with your future law suits.

It wasn't unsolicited, he literally asked them first. And they never said they said no, they very specifically danced around what their response was, but judging by literally all of the context clues, it seems like it was in the affirmative.

All of the other stories make it pretty clear he always asked first, and only went through with it when given consent.

Shock is shock. They stated they were in shock. Many women would find being in that situation to be traumatic. If you can't empathise, that's fine, but it's not fair of you to tell someone what is and isn't a legitimate emotional response. We all function differently.

I can empathize, but to say they were only laughing because they were in hysterics over having him jerk off in front of them is you putting words in people's mouths.

There was no dancing, they said they laughed it off. Unless someone says yes, it is not consent. Sorry.

And they said they were in shock and laughing. No words in mouths there.

There was no dancing, they said they laughed it off. Unless someone says yes, it is not consent. Sorry.

They never said what their response was. Every sign indicates it was in the affirmative.

And they said they were in shock and laughing. No words in mouths there.

You can be shocked and laughing because something is funny. To take "they were shocked and laughing" and making it akin to the hysterical laughing someone might experience when having an abnormal emotional response like someone in your family just died, is absolutely putting words in peoples' mouths. You're hearing hoof beats and thinking zebras.

Okay, let's say they were shocked and found it funny. Why would they feel they need to report it? Because they did not consent. It's possible to find something humorous and disgusting at the same time.

However they felt about it, they did not say okay. Like I have said before, not saying no doesn't not elicit consent. Saying it sounds like this, or I think this does not mean that is what happened.

This sort of reaction is why many people are scared to talk about what happens.

Why would they feel they need to report it?

Why did they feel the need to report it 15 years later? Because back then, all they did was mention it to a friend.

Because they did not consent.

Citation needed.

they did not say okay

Citation needed.

This sort of reaction is why many people are scared to talk about what happens.

Bullfuckingshit. If they didn't consent, let them say as much, because all evidence points to the opposite.

I mean there's a part of you that's right, but he is a comedian and vulgar at times, if the worst thing Louis C.K. does is whip out his dick to a few WOMEN who just didn't think he would do it, I think he should be fine these other actors and people are raping kids. It seems to me like these women are just hoping on a bandwagon. I think if these call outs weren't happening not only would no one know about this because it wouldn't be reported.

I agree that there are worse degrees of assault, but all of it needs to be reprimanded. That's like saying Mr A stole my car, but that doesn't matter now because Mr B burnt a house down.

If you look, people having been talking about him doing this for a long time. People aren't jumping on the bandwagon, they are feeling empowered and supported to actually talk about what has been hushed under the carpet.

And consent is consent.

I agree that there are worse degrees of assault, but all of it needs to be reprimanded. That's like saying Mr A stole my car, but that doesn't matter now because Mr B burnt a house down.

If you look, people having been talking about him doing this for a long time. People aren't jumping on the bandwagon, they are feeling empowered and supported to actually talk about what has been hushed under the carpet.

And consent is consent.

I agree that there are worse degrees of assault, but all of it needs to be reprimanded. That's like saying Mr A stole my car, but that doesn't matter now because Mr B burnt a house down.

If you look, people having been talking about him doing this for a long time. People aren't jumping on the bandwagon, they are feeling empowered and supported to actually talk about what has been hushed under the carpet.

And consent is consent.

True but if I read the articles right it would seem like consent was given in most cases, and when it wasn't he didn't. And of course this part is speculation on my part, but the 2 women didn't say they turned him down and instead said they thought he wasn't serious so it sounds, to me at least, that they might have said something along the lines of consent maybe even jokingly them selves and realized that no he was serious.

And you're very right that just cause its not as bad as the other things happening doesn't mean it shouldn't matter. I guess I meant we as a subreddit shouldn't focus on C.K. more than the other things happening.

Hanging out with a woman over a drink doesn't mean you can whip your dick out and start masturbating. Either you're a troll, a fucking moron, or a product of the way our current society grooms "men" on how it's okay to be fucking pigs. Whatever it is, it's disgusting and I can't wait for the fall.

Grow up, open your eyes, and stop being a disgusting piece of shit. The real men will help you out.

Hanging out with a woman over a drink doesn't mean you can whip your dick out and start masturbating.

So that's why all my dates have been going poorly...

so now whipping your dick out in front of a woman you invited back to your room after a show is a crime?

I don't know if he's being charged with a crime, but that kind of behavior is pretty fucked up.

There's a real problem here with wanting to believe all sorts of awful things about people you hate and disagree with and punish them accordingly, based on whatever flimsy evidence, but when its public figures that tend to be popular on here, THAT's when people/comments like this show up to defend and excuse the behavior or the accused, to claim we should wait for more details or evidence, or to even say the accusations are a lie or the behavior is okay.

It's interesting to read comments in threads like this versus threads about 'Pizzagate', just saying.

if you can't see there is a pretty huge divide between inviting a chick back to your room and whipping it out, versus raping children then there is no hope for you.

Also it's not like Louis told them they'll get a role in a movie but only if they do what he says.

He asked for permission, apparently he misread them, for some reason they didn't object and actually stayed. It's conceivable that he was just a dope who misread the situation, he might not have even known until later that it wasn't ok if they didn't leave or object.

Weinstein was calculated. He abused his powerful position. He went as far as hiring private investigators to stalk his victims and disrupt their attempts at seeking help.

These are drastically different scenarios, unless there's more information about Louis that we're not seeing yet.

exactly. its bonkers to see people going after him like its the same.

You didn't understand my comment.

My point was that people cared less about the substance of the accusations and more about their own personal feelings about the people being accused. Please spare me your performed outrage.

funny that this crap only ruins careers in USA. In Russia, people would laugh at you - everyone knows all these politicians/famous people have shenanigans with prostitutes/etc. wouldn't be that big of a deal. Americans are such prudes with all this its scary - blow minor things way out of proportion

In Russia you’re so used to being fucked that you expect to be touched.

I whipped my dick out in public once, and it got a laugh (have you seen my white elephant?). I can see a comedian repeating this joke.

Of course, do this in the wrong situation with the wrong audience and you should be on a list.

Read the NY Times article. This is clearly wrong situations.

Agreed. It doesn't sound very funny.

Your buddy in Hollywood is named.... Twitter?

Not like he’s in the know. Twitter has been buzzing about it all day. It’s trending

Twitter 4 Chan. I used to smoke weed with twitter 4 Chan back in the day.

Who is this 4 chan?

This totally honest group of kids. Trust me.

A notorious hacker.

Yeah well I smoked weed with Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Kettering and they were blazing that shit up

Upvote for catching the subtle reference

I wonder if this ties back to Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal arrest a couple of days ago. He currently has the majority stock in Twitter individually. There's a lot we are manipulated to believe structured behind the curtain.

This makes a lot of sense now

No fucking way. Aw man that sucks. I loved his stuff.

Isn't his new movie about a guy that falls in love with an underage girl?

I loved Louie but his entire comedy routine revolves around sexual shame so we all knew that was coming from somewhere.

his entire comedy routine revolves around sexual shame

And white guilt.

his comedy sucked, his downfall is great for modern comedy

He put out a couple excellent specials, although I thought his most recent was mediocre.

His whole delivery was kind of unique in that he came off like he was telling a story just to you. It wasn't the typical slick, canned delivery. Also his work ethic pushed other comedians to keep working hard and coming up with new material every year instead of rehashing the same act for years on end. He raised the standard. I know for sure he pushed Bill Burr in that regard, having in hand in Bill Burrs success means he's important.

Louis is pretty unique because his act was shit for like 2 decades before it got any good

Yea but he wrote on some pretty good projects.

It's not that uncommon for a comedian to find success later in life.

Or sell their soul when they get super desperate.

I couldn't blame a guy for trying to just make some money if they've been in comedy for 20+ years. Sometimes you just need to make sure you can retire or support your family.

unique because his pedo friends ensured he was the only show in town the average joe knew about.

One source of comedy, one reliable propaganda mouthpiece.

Two jokes that immediately come to mind are the one where he's with a girl from a comedy club all night, every time he tries to escalate things she denies him. Eventually she leaves and the next day she's upset that he didn't just go for it. The joke is that she basically wants him to just go for it, essentially risking raping her on the off chance that she's into it. That doesn't seem rapey, it's the opposite.

Another one was how when he sees a hot young woman now that he's older he just wants to give her a safe ride home rather than fuck her, and then he jokes that he'd rather just jack off to the thought of her anyway. Definitely not rapey, but he does mention jacking off.

Dude, I've heard this like 10 days ago, and I live in eastern europe.

...I gotta lay off the internet for a while.

Its been released.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/louis-ck-accused-masturbating-front-multiple-women-ny-times-expos-1056601

Shit is definitely becoming very well acquainted with the fan.

Great news for people who enjoy reading salacious stories and scandalous headlines.

Damn I thought you died Abraham

As a Trailer Park Boys and Walking Dead fan, I appreciate your recognition of a good shit-ism.

Your buddy in hollywood simply reads news articles on the internet. This story has been developing all day.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/entertainment/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct/index.html

i love when people are stupid and can be proven wrong with one link

Ignorant isn't formally stupid.

It's just casually stupid.

i love when people swarm and bully a guy for not knowing an article existed, probably because he posted befoe it was released and forgot about the comment. holy fuck, it's reddit, not a points game. remember the reason we're here, for discussion and gaining knowledge. not to assail people who made an unimportant mistake.

if anything, the fact that you got such a happy hard-on for downvoting this poor guy is the saddest thing here. OP is a good person and you fucked him over with your downvotes. you call him ignorant, when funnily enough you're the ignorant one not paying attention to time of comment and time of article.

The article was posted before the comment was

Time zones fuck me up. My math says op posted before the CNN article. Can anyone confirm or deny my math?

Don't worry about it man we all deal with it. One of the downsides of posting on Reddit

Just read Crazy Days and Nights for Hollywood stuff. He seems to get everything right way before it hits mainstream. Often years before.

We’re barely scraping the surface right now.

I've been reading the site for years and taking everything with a huge grain of salt, but almost everything that has come out lately was mentioned on his site years ago

Is there a list of all the allegations he's made? I don't want to go through years of material.

Each one requires figuring out a bit of riddle/puzzle.

Damn at least the Q posts have a spreadsheet with all the answers, this sounds like it would take forever.

Weinstein, Spacey, Sheen (the HIV and the Lucas set rumors), the pussycat dolls. There was an interesting one this week that most readers suspected was Jose Menendez (as in, maybe the brothers were telling the truth).

I might be 3 yrs lurking,but have things changed alot since you started? Like I mean credibility wise?

A lot! I've been reading it for 9-10 years. In the beginning there were a few blinds a week and more posting other celeb stories and commenting on it. It seemed more like it was written by a lawyer. As it got more popular, more and more blinds started coming every day. Then there was a format switch (which most readers suspected was an ownership switch) and the blinds became silly. It seems more like the original lately.

Holy shit dude. I don't even like Hillary but how are you going to make a claim like you did in your edit with out even doing so much as a simple Google search to make sure you're not talking out your ass?

Good God man, you're stupid.

Guess I was mistaken.

No clue why all the downvotes honestly I'm kinda upset about this one didnt really like Weinstein or spacey much already

not true! my buddy works in Hollywood too, and he tipped me off this morning that someone name “K. Spacey” was molesting young boys.

Keenan Spacey is going down.

Where can I read these “news articles” on the internet?

I have friends who are comics. He whips it out and jerks it in front of women. It is widely known and never talked about.

pics or it didnt happen

It is widely known and never talked about.

Lot of that going around

People are scared of Louie. He has a lot of pull

Heh pull..

Haha like his dick amirite

It was talked about for the last 3 years. Outside of Salon/Jezebel, it never got mainstream traction.

Probably also had to do with his new movie, "I Love You, Daddy"

it stars C.K. as a TV writer whose 17-year-old daughter (Chloe Grace Moretz) strikes up a relationship with an infamous older filmmaker (John Malkovich).

http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/09/louis-ck-i-love-you-daddy-premiere-canceled/

And that there is a scene in the movie where a character masturbates in front of another...

Well that and the fact that it doesn't seem like a good topic to approach right now even if this hadn't just happened

Well that and the fact that it doesn't seem like a good topic to approach right now even if this hadn't just happened

Another one of those widely known stories. The funny thing is the timing. Lots of interesting child related accusations are popping up and every time it does they throw a mainstream figure under the bus for exposing themselves to adults, not children.

Good. I don't get how people just idolize or become fans of these famous people all around. You got to be borderline brain dead to figure out when people like this touch risky subjects and him specifically as a comedian. Doesn't it make you wonder how fucked in the head they secretly are.

I've disliked that guy ever since his interview telling people to stop being lazy and work harder.

Literally nothing your "buddy" wrote is insider knowledge. Cool LARP, Ahmed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Frisson/comments/5wso07/text_louis_ck_with_a_lesson_on_fairness/ded6sso/

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I remember reading about his misconduct a while back on tumblr. I don't remember the source they had but if I recall correctly he had cornered a female comedian and masterbated in front of her or something to that effect

Tig Notaro has been talking about it for a while -- not that C.K. had done it to her specifically but that she knew of multiple cases.

Anyone remember that episode of Louie when he’s a kid in high school and that girl takes him to the woods and keeps telling him to “whip it out?” Kinda strange given the circumstances.

I'd like to think there is still possible redemption if this was long ago, and he truly apologizes. But if this is still a common thing, then I see the fall out being worse. In cases like Spacey and Weinstein these were constant ongoing situations.

Well at least he’s not a Pedo...

Wasn't this rumor on the board several months ago? I've read this rumor before and swear it was on this board.

Mariah too.

Uh oh... bad time to be a white male... good thing he can say he is Mexican.

He is known in the comedy industry as a sexual harasser and he is known for flashing his genitals and masturbating/fondling himself in front of the women he works with. i know this because i work in the same industry. Spoken to too many women (still wanting to keep it secret as they were worried about hurting their careers) with the same experiences about the same guy (Louie).

It was hard to hear about these things because i am/was a huge Louie CK fan. But at a certain point, there was just no denying the legitimacy of these claims from so many women who did not know each other, all wanting me to promise secrecy, all saying the same stuff.

If you're shocked by this you obviously never listened to his comedy. He was the perfect example of someone who would do this.

"so I just whipped out my dick and started jerking it, like oh my God I'm such a piece of shit why am I doing this oh God but it feels so FUCKING GOOD Ugh"

That text conversation looks fake as fuck.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html

damn he was one of my favs. no more

why no more? he didnt do anything wrong whatsoever

Anybody care to mention that his new movie is essentially about inappropriate sexual relationships between a Hollywood director and a teenager. I bet many executives were relieved to see this release axed.

Perhaps he got thrown under the bus deliberately for this very reason

Gotta sacrifice a gentile after the Larry David SNL.

Larry David SNL?

Yes. I'm referring to his opening monologue.

I will have to watch it.

I've been beating this drum for years. However, he seems more like a lone pervert than anything organized. Weinstein was organized, but it was more like his own personal intelligence network. Spacey is plugged into Epstein's Island, Geffen's Yacht, and Singer's "Digital Entertainment Network" parties.

I imagine a lot of lone perverts are going to go down to help cover up Spacey and the ones who do this in a connected and organized fashion. Especially when that connects to Washington and Silicon Valley.

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Validated:

https://www.avclub.com/hbo-drops-louis-ck-from-night-of-too-many-stars-pulls-1820316051

they're trying to confuse the issue. Louis CK is just a pervy comedian using his fame to get his rocks off. It's completely different than an employer or hollywood producer threatening a young actor's career if they don't have sex with them.

Louis isn't preying on underage girls, and he doesn't have the power to blackball female comedians from the industry. If they chose to watch him jerk off because they thought it would be good for their career, that's on them.

Louis CK's downfall has been coming for a while. 8 months ago, reports were starting to trickle out about him forcing women to watch him masturbate. Roseanne Barr even talking about it on Twitter. I noticed on Youtube that Louis was no longer promoted as "the comedian's comedian," with Doug Stanhope now occupying that position.

The shadow has been quietly closing over Louis for a long time.

• Footnote: He confirms to the stereotype. All the celebrities who became hysterical and unhinged about Trump are now being exposed as pedophiles and perverts. As I quoted before: "If the fucking bastard wins, we all hang" --Hillary Clinton (So basically: If you want to see a list of the people set to fall, pay attention to the ones becoming unhinged about Trump. They know that, with his ascendancy, their protection has been withdrawn.)

Hes just a wimpy little freak. Grown women are capable of avoiding people like him. I want the people touching kids to be called out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5067501/Louis-CK-film-premiere-cancelled-ahead-NY-Times-story.html

what's the worst thing he did? jerk off on the phone without informing the girl he was talking to? who even cares? some girl i was talking to started masturbating and didn't bother to ask if i was okay with that. im as much of a victim as any of these people are.

I hate Louis C.K., but i don't think he has shown any signs of misconduct (sexual or otherwise) to assume he is a creep.

If he does randomly whip his dick out to the public, then he is just...weird, or mentally ill, but I wouldn't classify him as being a predator.

so who started this domino effect and for what reason?

or is it just a coincidence all of these people are being accused left and right?

Dude, they didn't say yes. They thought it was a joke. Imagine yourself in a room with another man and he asks you this. He's a comedian. Would you take him seriously? How would you feel better f he started masturbating in front of you?

Right, the implication! So, no one is in any danger wink

If you think its more centralized now than 30 years ago, you aren't thinking clearly.