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What do you mean? People can believe whatever they want to believe for as long as they want. There's no round earth police force coming to lock you up.

I'm yet to speak to a single genuine flatearther who understands physics to even high school level.

You're right, there is something to it.... lack of education.

There was a point to you post??

Does your username have anything to do with the fact you think we live on a globe shaped earth?

That should be your new name. Globies and flat earthers. Even thats a mouthful. Globies and Plane-ers? or Globies and not sheep. Or Globies and sheep, depending what side of the fence you're on.

Either way explain your username mate.

Does your username have anything to do with the fact you think we live on a globe shaped earth?

Yes.

I knew it.

Go detective!

Thank you. Can I continue my detective work?

Do you argue flat earth that much it came to mind when thinking of a username? Seems odd unless you are proper into it. Is this the account you use purely for conspiracies and flat earth debates?

Because if you cant debate the topic debate his username, right?

Why do you think someone would shill under that name? Seems dumb to me, maybe the guy just has an interest in it like you do?

Gotta debate something.

You said it mate. I'm just saying his username suggests he has a lot of interest in this topic. He doesn't need to shill on behave of a company he has an agenda of his own. An interest in debunking this shit.

To be honest who can blame him? Just imagine for a second if this is your field and its bullshit. Can't even...It would be horrific. Even if these guys started to suspect it themselves their pride would make them want to make sure it never got out.

Not even talking about the people (if it is flat) in place to make sure it doesn't get out. But the average joe scientists. If its flat they've wasted so much more time than the flat-earthers.

That's why when debating this shit they ignore the questions asked, clinging to their own questions they think proves its round.

Ive been accused of being a shill before because I have an interest in this topic.

Its just a dumb way to prove your point and it makes you look like you cant argue the topic.

It came to mind, because I often find myself trying to talk sense into flat earthers.

An old friend of mine pretty much threw his life away because of this nonsense, and now 2 other friends have also fallen for this garbage and are in the process of throwing their lives away too.

You could say I have an interest in debunking this shit.

I mean if you think about it whatever they are doing is just another day wasted. Until they either go to another place or to nothingness. Were all wasting our time. We just chose different fields to waste it in.

Yes, but throwing away careers, friendships, etc because you lost your mind after falling for flat earth garbage is more wasteful imho.

Lets be real for a sec. Which ever career you choose you are still a slave. Working on behave of a fucked up system, wasting your precious life.

Losing friendships? Why? Can he not be friends with a globie? Or can you not be friends with someone so stupid? Either way thats crazy.

Losing your mind!? Haha I imagine Tweek from South Park twitching "It's flat, it's flat. WHY IS HE SAYING ITS ROUND!?" How does someone lose their mind to this shit?

education

Indoctrination

They are still wrong though.

PROVEN? show your work, then.

Oooh youtube videos! How surprising...

if you're really going to lead off your "proof" with some eric dubay idiocy, well.... have fun with your delusion. i bet fossils were placed by satan, too, eh?

yeah, dubay is a fraud. it's not an attack, it's a spotlight of truth. calling a non-huckster a fraud would be an attack. dubay is a fraud. you are a fool. too bad. bye bye.

i already did. the idea of "8 inches per mile squared" is wrong. "8 inches per SQUARE MILE" means that for any one straight plane mile (one line in one direction--"distance") you would see an overall curve of 8 inches.

dubay asserts that for 100 miles the math finding curve is (8x100)^2. there is no reason to square anything. this is just a wrong idea. the correct curve (approx) is 800 inches, or 66 feet. 66 feet curve over 100 miles would not be noticeable unless you had a completely smooth plane without any topography.

suspend your belief and think about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOz_J6tJVU

going out of his way to assert "8 inches per mile squared" is either deceitful or ignorant.

so you provide the same image/table of flawed calculation? 32" drop for 2 miles is simply ludicrous. it is a 16" drop for 2 miles. 72" for 3 miles? ridiculous. 8 inches per mile, 3 miles. 2 feet. 24 inches for 3 miles. 100 miles = 6600 ft? no, 66 ft. ridiculous.

8 inches per square mile. not "miles squared." or are you just a bot?

you have calculated area, not distance of curvature. just because those numbers are accurate for area doesn't mean i am mistaken about my numbers.

i appreciate your abusive language now that your beliefs/identity have been threatened. you begin to see the weakness of your position.

glad we got to the truth. you are fronting area calculations as distance values and now you see your formulas are mistaken. hopefully you are inspired to find out more about how wrong you have chosen to be.

you really have nothing. sad.

you aren't measuring area. you are measuring point-to-point distance. you are showing me a chart of spherical area calculations (twice), not curvature distances.

look. the first minutes of dubay's "proofs," he says you take 8 inches per mile and square the distance. that is either deceitful or retarded. why would you square the distance? because of the contractor's rule of thumb "8 inches per square mile"? that is LITERALLY THE STUPIDEST FUCKING IDEA TO BASE YOUR STUPID FUCKING BELIEF THE WORLD IS FLAT. simple. fucking. mathematics.

so dumb. iq level 83 dumb. that's mentally handicapped, if you didn't know.

you can't just copy some other bullshit that looks complex and think that justifies your belief. that is really silly whistling-in-the-dark.

you are so smart but you don't know earth is not a sphere? it's an ovoid solid. let me guess, the earth is hollow, right? tell me what is on the other side of our flat earth, if you know so much.

You don't have the faintest idea what "proof" means.

Ill come up with something better when you present a single piece of "proof" which stands on its own merit, instead of just linking to a mass collection of 200 pieces ridiculous claims for me so wade through.

I live by the sea, I see the curvature of the earth every single day, watching ships cross the horizon out of my window. I'm also an amateur astronomer, and studied physics at university.

I'm going to guess you either haven't finished school yet, or you got crappy grades in maths and the sciences. I've never met a flat earther who actually has a decent education in physics.

Try again.

Ill come up with something better when you present a single piece of "proof" which stands on its own merit,

It is an opinion, lol. It's the globe-perspective opinion.

It's not a fact ships sail over the horizon. A simple zoom camera or telescope can prove this, that is a fact.

You got your science all messed up brobeans.

I literally have 2 telescopes right next to me, which I can use to view ships on the horizon.

I can 100% guarantee that changing the eyepiece to higher magnification doesn't suddenly make them reappear.

Stop falling for stupid YouTube videos and try actually doing it yourself.

It's not a fact ships sail over the horizon. A simple zoom camera or telescope can prove this, that is a fact.

Definitely not lol.

Ships disappear bottom first, no amount of zoom will bring back the bottom section of a ship. The only thing that will bring them back is to increase your elevation. This should not work on a FE

You havent actually read and understood that document have you? You just looked at the title.

I have actually read it, and dont see anything that suggests the Earth is a flat plain.

So you did only read the title?

Typical flat earth retard. You won't even look at a document which you claim is proof of your argument.

Flat earth in the co text of this document means flat ground, not a flat planet. If you had bothered to even read it then you would already know hat.

The horizon alone proves curvature. So do you now agree that the earth is not flat?

You don't even understand what the horizon is. Haha haha..

Why do you seem to think the horizon should appear curved? The curve is movingly away from you in every direction, not side to side in front of you.

You are either so retarded that I cannot help you, or you are simply trolling.

If you are going to claim the earth is moving, prove it first before using it in your argument, thank you.

http://www.tkt.cs.tut.fi/research/nappo_files/Symposium_Gyro_Technology_2010_web.pdf

Do you really think they would let the cat out of the bag like that?

studied physics at university.

Do you think that cognitive bias comes into play on both sides? like plane-ers can't here the truth or whatever and keep believing we live on a plane, according to Globies. Could the same potentially be said for Globies? Like y'all studied this shit in school, hard.

Now if you're wrong and you've spent so many years being smart. That would just be embarrassing. I mean I want it to be a plane just to add a bit of spice to me life and I've not wasted too many hours watching Youtube n reading a bit.

But if my whole life, career and whatever depended on it being globe shaped, I'd really pray for it to be round. Because what are a physicians and scientists if we live on a flat-earth? Nothing but spoons.

let's see.... bunch of people have faith in "god". books about "god" say young, flat earth. no evidence is accepted because it can't possibly be right. put up or shut up. show your proof.

Can you pick a proof or two to talk about? Which ones are the best evidence to you?

Most flat earthers started out as being satirical then over time slowly pregressed to actually being the satire and have now brainwashed themselves.

Explain gravity on a flat earth.

Well that's a new one, surprised you didn't spout the universal acceleration theory. I'll have to look that one up.

Honestly I have never seen a single flat earth supporting theory that was was not refuted by another flat earther with a different theory. Granted globe based science can be in a held in a similar position. Answer me this. Let's say for sake of argument that the earth is undoubtedly flat, what the agenda for pushing the global theory so hard, what does anyone gain from it? And remember people have generally agreed that the earth is a globe way before NASA was created.

Who do you like?

I'm hanging with Santos Bonacci and another youtuber named Subphotonic. Santos gets into the ancient theologies about the Earth. And subphotonic is just a raw uncensored dude who goes over countless memes about the Copernican Jesuit influence on science.

Thanks , will check them out.

lol, the video shows curve ...

This post seems to sum up why density and buoyancy is bogus far better than I could with my admittedly limited knowledge of physics. https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69081.0

I don't think that guy is a flat earther, it seems like he just post there to argue with flat earthers. Can you refute what he says?

can you post some corroborating evidence?

That only works if there is a force pulling them downward already...

Liquids will not separate in zero gravity.

Lets do a simple thought game. What happens to objects put into a vacuum sealed box? If I put a brick in a box and removed all of the atmosphere in there so there is no other density for the brick to interact with, what happens?

Does the box get lighter? why or why not?

So um, what is this scientific method then? I should be able to reproduce it in my laboratory shouldn't I? What does density, I mean specific gravity have to do with the earth being flat or round?

Density and buoyancy only work if there is a force pulling everything down...

Buoyancy is simple to test for. What happens to objects in a vavuum sealed box? Do they float and is there a change to the weight of the vacuum sealed box? If no to both of those then we know its not density or buoyancy.

Calculate the buoyancy of a typcial tennis ball in distilled water at sea level WITHOUT using Earth's gravitational constant.

I await your answer.

Is that an order? Fuck you.

I read that as "I have no fucking idea how to do that. I just say those words because somebody else said them to me."

Lol, great response. I post flat earth threads too and Jesus if I couldn't reply the same sometimes. Hey, can you calculate the complex physics problems I have, to prove your theory?, when if they even had a pic of the earth that was real they could easily prove their own globe. No, it's up to the flat earthers to solve complex mathematical problems using ball earth theories like a gravitational constant. Then they say it's not real because their one little storie problem is ignored. If all they have are a few evidences backed by the mainstream Jesuit psuedo science like 'spinning at 1000mph and having water stick like glue because of gravity!' Fucking joke. Then you mention density and buoyancy and it's like the most foreign concept they have ever heard of.

Anyway keep up the good fight , and don't let the indoctrinated globies ruin your day. ;)

Very good. They dont know we love them and don't want to see them deceived by whatever NASA is doing, for one. And that leads to the Baal Earth deception. Tbh At first I had an issue with the constant brigading and stupidity. Now I have fun with it. You see the same people just different names.

One point I always like to make is to axdress to how FE has been considered a psyop, Though in reality it's perpetually down voted and brigaded by groupthink. So you too make a good point, there is no leader. No team of shills putting Flat Earth on the map. They don't want that. People also have a hard time getting past the idea that a person on youtube or reddit can more perceptive than the people in labcoats on television ,or in popular science magazines.

No prob man. I usually will say what's up when I have time to others on this path. I saw this post this morning and it reminded me of the same things I experienced.

I mean yea, it's perfectly normal for them to brigade these posts and say the most negative and filthy things and completely ignore the premise. I have been called mentally ill by so many idiots I should a reddit trophy by now. I have found some people are more eager than others to be present and derail the thread immediately. Still others just come by to drop neg after neg while you try to have a normal conversation. In general the arguments are one sided and confined to the ball earth perception. Einstein's gravity, Galileo, Copernicus. Three people have formed the basis in everyone's mind of a false model. People hear these names and think they could never be wrong since they are Geniuses. But they aren't. They are propagandists for this deception and all are agents within it, even though Galileo is just a pawn of it.

This of course then gets into our public education. So they ask, what can be gained by fooling us all? Not realizing the lie has already consumed their perception. And what 'They' gain is control over our minds. Or try to, it has worked for generations. And from this model of heliocenteism can be gained trillions of dollars and other forms of capitalist enterprises designed to swindle and mind control the public's consciousness, all while keeping us trapped here with no knowledge of where we are at.

They think there isn't a shadow government just for this topic. They think there aren't elite families that go back in our history for thousands of years who stay in power and control through governments. And government is mind control. Maybe they aren't ready for that. That awareness. So they play dumb and think flat earth is a psyop.

You think NASA fakery being exposed would really wake some people up. It's totally obvious I'm sure I don't have to tell you that.

So NASA to me is the biggest liars and they mess up so much. And you will start to see threads here about it again some traction. Then, for example this weekend, reddit had on r/all a very highly Upvoted popular mechanics article debunking the conspiracy of a fake moon landing.

So it's a war. It's like, you can make some ground here, but then the propaganda gets thicker and more trolls appear and it's like starting over almost.

As time goes on we will find better ways to present this but NASA is so fake it can't be ignored so I think it's our best bet to at least wake a few of these mind controlled up. Little by little we get there.

No prob man. I usually will say what's up when I have time to others on this path. I saw this post this morning and it reminded me of the same things I experienced.

I mean yea, it's perfectly normal for them to brigade these posts and say the most negative and filthy things and completely ignore the premise. I have been called mentally ill by so many idiots I should a reddit trophy by now. I have found some people are more eager than others to be present and derail the thread immediately. Still others just come by to drop neg after neg while you try to have a normal conversation. In general the arguments are one sided and confined to the ball earth perception. Einstein's gravity, Galileo, Copernicus. Three people have formed the basis in everyone's mind of a false model. People hear these names and think they could never be wrong since they are Geniuses. But they aren't. They are propagandists for this deception and all are agents within it, even though Galileo is just a pawn of it.

This of course then gets into our public education. So they ask, what can be gained by fooling us all? Not realizing the lie has already consumed their perception. And what 'They' gain is control over our minds. Or try to, it has worked for generations. And from this model of heliocenteism can be gained trillions of dollars and other forms of capitalist enterprises designed to swindle and mind control the public's consciousness, all while keeping us trapped here with no knowledge of where we are at.

They think there isn't a shadow government just for this topic. They think there aren't elite families that go back in our history for thousands of years who stay in power and control through governments. And government is mind control. Maybe they aren't ready for that. That awareness. So they play dumb and think flat earth is a psyop.

No prob man. I usually will say what's up when I have time to others on this path. I saw this post this morning and it reminded me of the same things I experienced.

I mean yea, it's perfectly normal for them to brigade these posts and say the most negative and filthy things and completely ignore the premise. I have been called mentally ill by so many idiots I should a reddit trophy by now. I have found some people are more eager than others to be present and derail the thread immediately. Still others just come by to drop neg after neg while you try to have a normal conversation. In general the arguments are one sided and confined to the ball earth perception. Einstein's gravity, Galileo, Copernicus. Three people have formed the basis in everyone's mind of a false model. People hear these names and think they could never be wrong since they are Geniuses. But they aren't. They are propagandists for this deception and all are agents within it, even though Galileo is just a pawn of it.

This of course then gets into our public education. So they ask, what can be gained by fooling us all? Not realizing the lie has already consumed their perception. And what 'They' gain is control over our minds. Or try to, it has worked for generations. And from this model of heliocenteism can be gained trillions of dollars and other forms of capitalist enterprises designed to swindle and mind control the public's consciousness, all while keeping us trapped here with no knowledge of where we are at.

They think there isn't a shadow government just for this topic. They think there aren't elite families that go back in our history for thousands of years who stay in power and control through governments. And government is mind control. Maybe they aren't ready for that. That awareness. So they play dumb and think flat earth is a psyop.

Whats the medium in which everything is buoyant? Buoyancy doesn't work without gravity.

source?

don't take flat earth from us! These days with the seriousness of reality, what shitposts can we enjoy if you stop them?

Blah. If the world is flat then I am. Or a threat to everyone that stands against me

People still think Elvis is alive, or that bug eyed aliens traveled from alternate dimensions or light years away just to anally probe them and fuck up cows, and invisible overlords. People believe stupid shit. Even easier to fall for dis-info and propaganda and attention grabbing sensationalist headlines and stories when it's accessible from your pocket constantly.

The only people who believe in flat earth are trolls, certain religious people, youtube view whores, lazy people who can use the internet for memes but not research, anyone who failed all of high school science, people unaware of how easy it is to get out of the house and disprove it themselves.

I will just leave this here as it looks pretty round to me

https://youtu.be/zyq5eN9C4Cc

You're the one that continues to ignore evidence that is posted to counter your beliefs. The question is why you gaslight people then ignore the subsequent discussion.

Still waiting for answers to this and this, without the misinformation videos you posted before.

The Globe shills are really hitting u hard here. Keep it up, flat earth will prevail! Come check out r/ourflatworld! The truth is just beyond your will to look into it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CyG2zc8HkU

Star trails at the equator, easily explained using the globe earth model. No satisfactory explanation with flat earth model.

How do you explain the straight line of trails in the middle, then?

Well, until you produce real star trails that match your model I will continue to believe the globe earth model is a better fit for our reality. Thats not to say I'm not open to other ideas. I think the model as outlined in the essay Introduction to Idiomaterial Life Physics is more accurate than the conventional science model of our reality, for example.

lol

Shitty CGI

You can do this yourself, try going outside and trying it yourself rather than using analysis websites which are often incorrect.

It is by design that 9/11 and F.E.T. are both 'conspiracy theories'. The conflation of these two topics is a psyop. Regurgitated by the so called useful idiots who know nothing of even elementary geometry. Go back to sleep.

Science has already proven it mate. There's more interesting things going on in the conspiracy world today. Have fun with your bogus, disproven misinformation.

It will be used as fuel to attack people (currently labeled conspiracy theorists) who are skeptical of the main stream news.

Famous flat-eathers are probably paid for that sentiment because they wouldn't risk bringing ridicule to themselves unless they were protected.

Flat-earth theory is generally harmless for now but it can be used to discredit any serious truther movements.

I think that's the true purpose of this seemingly innocuous trend.

you seriously need therapy. is this dubay? are you him? see waa dee krap, dubay! how's the wing chun school going?

That's hilarious but I suppose preying on the gullible is fair game these days.

Once flat-earth has a sizable following, I imagine it could be exploited for money.

I'd wish you luck but I despise grifters.

By the way, what's the end-game?

I'll guess that it's for associating flat-earth to any conspiracy theory that gains popularity and comes close to the truth.

So far, I've noticed that attempts are being made to associate it with Trump supporters.

this dude is so silly. "top scientists of their day." yeah, when people didn't believe in germs and eugenics was en vogue these idiots were coming up with experiments to prove their beliefs. plastic, computers, combustion engines. sanitation and modern medicine all did not exist but these "top men" were really onto an irreproducible truth that millions of people today know and work to actively hide. fuck this cat is stupid.

experiments that can't be replicated.

I literally have 2 telescopes right next to me, which I can use to view ships on the horizon.

I can 100% guarantee that changing the eyepiece to higher magnification doesn't suddenly make them reappear.

Stop falling for stupid YouTube videos and try actually doing it yourself.

Blah. If the world is flat then I am. Or a threat to everyone that stands against me

Well that's a new one, surprised you didn't spout the universal acceleration theory. I'll have to look that one up.

This post seems to sum up why density and buoyancy is bogus far better than I could with my admittedly limited knowledge of physics. https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69081.0

Honestly I have never seen a single flat earth supporting theory that was was not refuted by another flat earther with a different theory. Granted globe based science can be in a held in a similar position. Answer me this. Let's say for sake of argument that the earth is undoubtedly flat, what the agenda for pushing the global theory so hard, what does anyone gain from it? And remember people have generally agreed that the earth is a globe way before NASA was created.

I don't think that guy is a flat earther, it seems like he just post there to argue with flat earthers. Can you refute what he says?

Density and buoyancy only work if there is a force pulling everything down...

Buoyancy is simple to test for. What happens to objects in a vavuum sealed box? Do they float and is there a change to the weight of the vacuum sealed box? If no to both of those then we know its not density or buoyancy.

It's not a fact ships sail over the horizon. A simple zoom camera or telescope can prove this, that is a fact.

Definitely not lol.

Ships disappear bottom first, no amount of zoom will bring back the bottom section of a ship. The only thing that will bring them back is to increase your elevation. This should not work on a FE

Because if you cant debate the topic debate his username, right?

Why do you think someone would shill under that name? Seems dumb to me, maybe the guy just has an interest in it like you do?

It came to mind, because I often find myself trying to talk sense into flat earthers.

An old friend of mine pretty much threw his life away because of this nonsense, and now 2 other friends have also fallen for this garbage and are in the process of throwing their lives away too.

You could say I have an interest in debunking this shit.

Calculate the buoyancy of a typcial tennis ball in distilled water at sea level WITHOUT using Earth's gravitational constant.

I await your answer.

Who do you like?

I'm hanging with Santos Bonacci and another youtuber named Subphotonic. Santos gets into the ancient theologies about the Earth. And subphotonic is just a raw uncensored dude who goes over countless memes about the Copernican Jesuit influence on science.

i already did. the idea of "8 inches per mile squared" is wrong. "8 inches per SQUARE MILE" means that for any one straight plane mile (one line in one direction--"distance") you would see an overall curve of 8 inches.

dubay asserts that for 100 miles the math finding curve is (8x100)^2. there is no reason to square anything. this is just a wrong idea. the correct curve (approx) is 800 inches, or 66 feet. 66 feet curve over 100 miles would not be noticeable unless you had a completely smooth plane without any topography.

suspend your belief and think about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOz_J6tJVU

going out of his way to assert "8 inches per mile squared" is either deceitful or ignorant.

Whats the medium in which everything is buoyant? Buoyancy doesn't work without gravity.