"Those who break the rules in the ninja world are called scum. But those who don't protect their friends are worse than scum."

I mean...you’re telling a group that pretty much already knows all this...

Hearts & Minds, friend. One at a time.

The entire process of entering a military branch is one big scam...to the point where any other company or business would have their balls sued off for false advertising, truth in advertising and every other scam they use to sell products.

My room mate is a Marine gulf war vet and they have totally destroyed his life by denying him medical benefits, calling him a liar regarding his PTSD and a plethora of other things.

For those of you who live with war vets, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I've seen my best friend deteriorate before my eyes and its a truly sad event.

The VA in our state is by far worse than Cook County hospital. You go there and the disorganization, employee moral is on a level of a inner city McDonald's.

Everything is passed on to everyone else and the care they give is deplorable.

Along with being wounded in combat, his crippling PTSD and ongoing opiate addiction (from prescription pain killers) His monthly disability is $450.00. He has a heart condition which will require bypass surgery and is unable to work however, someone else with a bad back receives $4000 a month.

Its really sad when you see those super awesome commercials portraying the military as a video game...they make it look so enticing with the flashy production of them you bascially say..."where do i sign up?"

The money and bonuses they promise is total bullshit and for anyone thinking of joining I say...please do some research ...ask former personnel and read as many blogs and stories before you decide to sign that contract.

As the wife of a DV, I’ve seen my husband go through some pretty terrible shit, try to get help and be turned away over and over again. If he wants decent care we have to pay out of pocket to go to a private doctor. We can’t afford that. I pray every night and thank God that today wasn’t the day he turns into a statistic.

Thank you for your reassurance! And thank you for putting your life on the line for us. It's unbelievably brave and heroic.

I'd like to confess that at one stage in life, before I knew about the elite, I was actually angry at the soldiers. My feelings were "they should know wars are bad, so why choose that line of work?"

These days I realise that it is not them at fault. They were doing what they thought was right and righteous. I now know about the elite, and the blame is on them entirely.

Found this a while back - Veterans for Peace https://www.veteransforpeace.org/ I think that what they do is really inspiring and they seem to share your view.

Do you think there is any hope left for America?

Thanks.

How was it an honour?

It takes a different kind of person to know what you are talking about. No one here who hasn’t experienced war first hand will never.. and I will say never be able to even fathom anything of your life. I commend you for your efforts.. and I know you don’t get the respect you deserve. Just know others have no clue and they don’t mean any harm not knowing. People’s perception of the military is 180• from reality.

Realizing that you have sacrificed so much and you can look to your right and left and know they’ve sacrificed as well keeps you going. At the end of the day, no one but them knows anything of who you truly are as a person. I don’t doubt without question you understand who you are as a person. You’ve been in those situations at all time lows and highs and understand the boundaries of yourself more than the normal person who complains at McDonald’s when their order is messed up. Or people say oh I know what I would do in that situation. They don’t.. until you are at the point of failure and you are dragging your body to move and motivating yourself by saying I gotta make it there or I gotta get to them, or if I don’t move I will not make it, then maybe they could understand something about your life. Just hang in there and again realize that people who don’t know just don’t understand and you fought for their right to be privileged assholes. Sorry for the language. I think you know what I mean.

It was an honor because I served with the best that this nation has to offer.

that's another Lie ... c'mon bro, we both know that

Agree. The elite's sons aren't serving. You can see how much they care about the military, by how the treat Veterans. A fucking commodity.

You can see how much they care about the people or the planet, but how they poison them.

That shit will never stop, if even the victims agree that patriotism/militarism/heroism is untouchable

thanks matey, it seems quite a few disagree with me

I was going to join back in 2007 but I realized these wars were never going to stop. I didn't want to be a storm trooper. I wanted to defend the country not attack others.

Your odds of going to war are and will never be 100%. I know tons of people who are military and never deployed to a war zone. But I know what you mean, but it still sounds like you sort of went on a limb to say you would be storm trooper attacking other countries. It’s more like people have to go to war because they are told, so you are assuring in protecting those innocent lives. No one kills babies or whatever everyone believes. It’s a different world.. soldiers are so far away from political agenda or higher echelon strategic decisions during war.. you are more than likely just charged with ensuring people don’t sneak on your base and kill all your family than being charged to go attack and take innocent lives. There is a huge misconception about the military as a whole.

And I know you just don’t want to be used as a pawn to fight a war you don’t believe in, so don’t feel attacked by my comment. Some people join to make their lives better and don’t get passed anything but I need a job, let alone even knowing we are at war and understanding the severity of their decision to join. These are people who are dual citizens.. come from trailer parks.. come from facing jail time or join military.. some smart.. most dumb academically speaking. Not illiterate but just not aware of all their decisions. But they stand up ready to deploy, engage and destroy the enemies of The United States of America in close combat. They are guardians of freedom and the American way of life.. they are American soldiers !!

So when these people go to war.. it’s because they are told enemies have threatened the American way of life. And they defend that right Americans enjoy. If at all there is a ounce of truth behind reasoning for protecting our country by way of other countries, these men and women gladly carry that burden with honor.

As another former soldier having served in OEF Afghanistan 06-07, I agree.

Thank you. You too. Looks like you went through some shit.

This is why clone army's are such a scary concept.

What happens when every person wakes up and "the powers that be" have no one left to fight for them?

Yes, it would be a great thing if people started opting out of even thinking of going into the military. I know it would take a lot to get to this stage, but I believe it is possible. Either the elites would have to do their own dirty work or there would be no war. One can dream.

I guess machine warfare has already started

The Draft

And the dodge

Sweet username

What rank did you achieve and how long did you serve. This post as disabled combat veteran infuriated me.

War on terrorism or whatever you call it, there is a war on natural world resources. You sound like a private who just got out and Im curious under what circumstances.

The USA does bad things? Ok but who do you want to win this global struggle? The country you defended or someone else. There is no peace and happy ending. Sorry. There is not. So stop lamenting about how the world is and don’t disparage the soldiers, marines etc that give every american on Reddit and in the America their opportunity to liv in a somewhat stable government, economy, and opportunity.

I hate and have PTSD as a result. But try to see bigger picture and see the end game you simple sighted boot. I would always say from the bottom up everything looks messed up. From top down, you are amazed people don’t kill each other all the time, electricity works, and people show up and do their jobs.

I dont disagree with you but your anger is with yourself not the military. I know about courts-martial. You screwed up bad if it went there. Dont take that out on the gov or the other veterans who didnt screw up. I have ptsd also and more but i didnt get court-martialed.

Again are things wrong? Yes. But again. How do people think the world works? You think if we dont do some the nefarious stuff we do others wouldnt???? This is not the USA im only referring to. Thats humanity. Not just the USA.

I can't agree a lot of you walk around calling people fuckin civies and then deploy to kill people for the weapons racket and then dump a load of shit out at Sea that kills your family. No offense meant if that isn't you.

We need to hear more from the vets.

The vets know. 2004-2010 for me.

Politicians are one point, but the money behind those politicians are the driving force. Corruption is legal in this country. I'm sure you've seen your fair share of corruption and abuse during your time in.

That money that corrupts the politicians also corrupts the families deep in the MIC.Smedley Butler warned us of that.

The U.S. Military is a jobs program

Yes, it would be a great thing if people started opting out of even thinking of going into the military. I know it would take a lot to get to this stage, but I believe it is possible. Either the elites would have to do their own dirty work or there would be no war. One can dream.

Thank you. You too. Looks like you went through some shit.