Question for Flat Earth believers
0 2017-12-13 by UncleJakeNWO
I guess what I can’t wrap my head around is what does the parties involved in convincing the public that the earth is round gain from that deceit? This is in no way me trying to be funny or sarcastic. I’m just curious. Is it some sort of financial gain I’m missing?
56 comments
1 picklejuice50cents 2017-12-13
Spheres have more circumference than straight lines. If you sell undersea cable or electricity/telephone lines, you sell WAY more than you need and pocket the moneys.
1 UncleJakeNWO 2017-12-13
That’s actually a very interesting point
1 picklejuice50cents 2017-12-13
I made it up on the fly, so thank you!
1 UncleJakeNWO 2017-12-13
Double impressed haha
1 saphiresheen 2017-12-13
Did you realize this idea is mathematically wrong?
1 partyghost 2017-12-13
Yeah. A mile is a mike whether it's on the surface of a sphere or a straight line.
1 partyghost 2017-12-13
Mile*
1 amateurrocketbuilder 2017-12-13
It's the art of deception.
They get off on making people believe things that aren't true.
Not saying I fully believe flat earth theory, but I wouldn't doubt it.
1 UncleJakeNWO 2017-12-13
Oh I’m defiantly not dismissing it I just don’t understand the benefit of it
1 HideFoundHide 2017-12-13
Whats the benefit of a corporation who employs single-minded, vetted narratives for their corporate policy... whats the benefit of a church that negotiates in secret what is or isn't actually the word of God and makes certain books canon over others... whats the benefit of a parent creating a false image to their kids putting them on a pedestal.
The question is nonsensical if you take the time to observe the world around you. Everything is a magic trick
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
If the Earth is flat that then it would mean that Earth is special and takes away all the mythos of us being on one insignificant planet in a galaxy full of billions of other planets in an ever expanding galaxy of universes.
Basically it would be undeniable then that we were created seeing that we would be on the center stage of.... whatever would be outside of the dome.
1 partyghost 2017-12-13
This makes no sense to me. We couldn't have been created on a spherical planet? So we go from god doesn't exist to god wants us to be his any farm. Come on.
1 partyghost 2017-12-13
Ant*
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
You are misunderstanding me.
By hiding the fact that the Earth is flat (if it is), then it could be argued that someone is suppressing evidence that we were created by intelligent design rather than by a random cosmic explosion.
It would mean everything NASA or any other agency has ever told anyone and that the only goal is to keep the population in the dark and take money from them in the form of taxes.
What fruits of labor have actually come from NASA? Have YOU or anyone YOU know been there? Has there ever been any absolute, undeniable, irrefutable proof that anyone can actually go there? Even the moon rock given to the dutch was proven to be petrified wood. Any footage from the ISS can easily be made in front of a green screen with anyone that gets billions of dollars a year.
There are many reasons to hide flat earth. Start thinking for yourself and you can probably come up with a few for yourself.
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
The question regarding having been THERE... that there is in reference to space.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Right? Thats where the God theory breaks down for me.
If God did this, if he put us in a terrarium that perfectly simulates an infinite world he is an asshole.
Why wouldnt he give us an infinite universe?
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
Then the whole concept of God eludes you as well as the concept of sin and separation from God. Man doomed man, God has done nothing but try to redeem us.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Again, why lock us in a box that simulates an infinite universe?
If its beyond his ability then he isnt god. If he can and decided not to then he is an asshole and probably not god.
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
Maybe he is following laws that were created when everything was created. Maybe God isnt a hypocrite. Maybe youre viewing things through a very narrow lens, or maybe I am.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Either way God left enough hints around to show the Earth isnt flat.
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
That is where we must agree to disagree... Cause I am standing outside right now and I feel no movement, and yesterday I saw the moon all day long (and that is frequently observed if you look).
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
I fell asleep on an airplane because it certainly didnt feel like it was moving 600+mph. Why could I not feel movement? Does that mean the airplane was actually stationary?
I honestly dont know how this proves a FE or what baring this has on the topic.
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
You felt stationary at 600+ mph? You might want to get that checked because you SHOULD be able to feel at least the air moving around the plane.
With the moon being visible during the day.. shouldnt that not be the case? Should it not be on the other side of the globe?
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Turbulence is different than motion. Also in space there is no wind to cause turbulence making high speeds even easier. This seems to be more proof of space...
On a clear day with no turbulence its a very smooth ride. How do you explain that I can sleep moving that fast?
You also arent explaining why this supports a FE. Your argument is basically "ITS SO FAST!!!!" but what does this have to do with movement?
I dont think you understand how the moon works... Its not the opposite of the sun. It can be in the sky the same time as the sun...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/78/23/b07823a01d837b85df5dcd6aae20e65c.png
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
You're tossing about words like proof.. you have no tangible proof about space being what TPTB say it is just like i have none about the Earth being flat. I will believe what I believe and you should be content with doing the same.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
I have observations... Also considering the spike in private space companies I assume we will eventually have proof free of NASA.
I mean you can go watch SpaceX land a spaceship from space. Space agencies are actively encouraging private companies to develop space tech, you would think they would try their hardest to hide it all.
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
If only we could all be like you.
That's sarcasm in case you didnt catch it.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Just do the hard work of actually finding answers. Don't stop at the first YouTube video and call it a day.
1 Crookygrin 2017-12-13
You do not know me or my life experience, why is it that you are so comfortable judging from behind your keyboard?
You have every right to believe whatever you so choose. Other people also have this same right. You should learn how to respect the opinions of others, especially in context. Take a second and look where you are, you are in a thread where someone asked a question about flat earth.
Children these days.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Im not judging you. It also shouldnt matter what life experiences youve had, the facts dont change. Thats a shitty card to play.
Yeah absolutely, until you try to tell others knowingly wrong information, then you should expect people to point out the issues. If you cant handle your beliefs being challenged then stay off the internet or keep your beliefs to yourself.
1 VeganSavage 2017-12-13
Its because "we are the center of nothing" take a god or creator out of the equation. If believed on an individual level, it takes away all personal accountability for anything.. Same thing as "YOLO!"
If we were living under a dome it would mean we are special, and not only that, the human race as a whole is special. It would take away a lot of division, and bring in a love of love and spirituality.
Thats why
PS: not a flat earther but i research it anyway because i'm not scared of being wrong.
1 KiwiBattlerNZ 2017-12-13
Bullshit.
The only difference is the religious would be claiming their version of "god" is the one true "god" and would set about killing each other on a flat earth instead of a globe.
1 VeganSavage 2017-12-13
Your not getting it, Knowing the earth is a dome would mean that we are all one, which regardless of flat/round earth I believe to be true. it would mean we are all one ant colony in a sandbox, one family. To know it and to think it are two different things.
TPTB have taken that sense away from us, and have told us we have no meaning or purpose, only then do the endless wars begin.
This is a hard thing to face no matter who you are, we all wish our actions didnt matter and that we will never be held accountable. That is the main reason this "YOLO" mentality is so popular, because it's easy, and with that you can do anything you want with no worry.
Note: I am not claiming any religion or flat earth.
1 BoyCriedWolfBlitzer 2017-12-13
If TPTB reveal earth is flat then it proves G-d exists. I already know and believe G-d exists, but for some others they question it, and for the rest they blindly accept everything the gov't/MSM/and other proven liars say.
The Flat Earth simply explains and proves what G-d has given his apostles and chosen ones to transcribe what he has spoken. Globe earth keeps people questioning G-d and they force globe earth down our throats to further their agenda of one world religion (heliocentric "universe" evolution, money, vanity, etc) if we find out the earth is actually flat then we will question EVERYTHING else we have been told. Our scales are being pulled from our eyes everyday and we are slowly waking up.
Look up project Northwoods, operation highjump and admiral Byrd and his journeys to Antarctica, and into how we can only go through ONE company to visit Antarctica (even though they have 60+ different sites and other shell companies to go through, it's still only one parent/primary company), also how 80+ countries have signed a treaty to not allow anyone to go to Antarctica other than the few spots they are allowed to on government expeditions and if people do attempt it then those countries dispatch coast guard/military to intervene and stop your progress any further, look into the Bible discussing flat earth and how it is shown in certain passages, there's a few to get you started.
Basically it just comes down to them hiding G-d from us and keeping us from knowing we have an ultimate creator that controls everything (we have free will but he has our lives planned out already and can take different paths to get to the same finish line) and created the universe. We are the center of the universe and aliens are just demons manifesting in these abductions/possessions. Project blue beam fits here with the govt falsifying that aliens are from a distant and more intelligent universe. If you research any alien abduction then you will see that if you call out the name of Jesus Christ or G-d almighty then the abduction ends and you wake up from your "possession/abduction"
I'm bracing for the downvotes from this but I am simply speaking my heart and what the good lord has spoken to me. 1.5 years ago after praying and praying for an open heart and opening of my 3rd eye, I began to slowly see things from a perspective that I never have before and the scales began to fall from my eyes after every new revelation/discovery without unquestionable doubt. Eventually it brought me to FE and I was so against it and laughed at it anytime someone discussed it here or other sites. I watched a few videos and did some cross referencing and research and I am now a believer. All I ask is do your research and you will be a FE'r as well please keep an open mind and watch different lectures/videos and start in some areas that you have always wondered about and you will go down a rabbit hole that ends with NASA has faked their flights and missions to "moon and outer space".
1 UncleJakeNWO 2017-12-13
I’m going to check out all of the things you said. This is a very interesting perspective
1 BoyCriedWolfBlitzer 2017-12-13
Thanks 🙏 sir. I just want people to keep an open mind and1.5 years ago I was, not on the fence, completely opposed to FE until I kept open the possibility of it being true and now I am completely a FE believer. I hope you find the answers you need in those topics I discussed.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
I think the opposite. If we live on a FE earth with firmament enclosing us its proof god is finite.
Why would god lock us in a terrarium that perfectly simulates an infinite universe instead of, you know giving us an infinite universe?
If its beyond his ability then he isnt God.
1 russianbot01 2017-12-13
In some flat earth maps floating around there are extra island, so could be to hide additional places (maybe were a breakaway civilization is planned)?
1 schmickler83 2017-12-13
I think they've been going on for hundreds of years. If the flat earth theory is true, we are all literally surrounded by a prison wall. The civilization beyond probably uses our resources, and probably our people for slaves and god know what else (kidnapped or raised as slaves). If it is ever exposed, I assume the economy could crash because there wouldn't be scarcity anymore.
1 partyghost 2017-12-13
The breakaway civilization is already using our resources, kidnapping children, raping pillaging and plundering. They're called the 1% and they don't live on the other side of an ice wall they live all over our round earth. Mostly in America.
1 saphiresheen 2017-12-13
Flat Earth is a psyop against English-speaking conspiracy realists. The idea is to pit us against each other. They studied us, and identified a meme that 60% of conspiracy realists would get on the wrong side of.
Right now, it is being used to contaminate other conspiracy theories.
In the future, it will be the ideological line that determines who we fight in our civil war.
1 blette 2017-12-13
Yup, why is u/saphiresheen 's comment getting down voted??
Here is my question for any flat-earther who is not a shill:
Do retarded people know how retarded they are? Do you think they can comprehend how much more intelligent some people are?
Look up Dunning-Kruger.
1 schmickler83 2017-12-13
The globe earth could be the psyops, two dozen generations ongoing, to hide the flat earth and hidden continents. It doesn't matter what conspiracy theorists think, because flat earth is exposed to everyone, and is everywhere. It's actually pretty rare r/conspiracy even touches it.
1 partyghost 2017-12-13
That's because it's nonsensical. Even for conspiracy. That should go a long way.
1 saphiresheen 2017-12-13
It could be, but there's zero evidence the earth is anything other than a globe and abundant evidence that the YouTube videos that started this are full of hypnosis, subliminal messages, and lies. So it's actually totally clear that the psyop is the flat earth bs that you've apparently contracted.
1 L4destroyer 2017-12-13
I wonder what their explanation is for water drops. Water drops form spheres as they drip from a point due to surface tension. Gravity, magnetic force and surface tension explains spherical planets. And most of the stuff you can
1 FlatReality 2017-12-13
If earth is flat that means space is fake so by lying they already get billions just from NASA. If the earth really is flat than they have made you belive in something witch is a fantasy we all know how water behaves but they have fooled you to belive large amounts of it can stick to balls when Einstein was asked how it feel to be the smartest man alive he said I don't know ask tesla but tesla said none of Einstein's theory's have been proven
1 whenipeeithurts 2017-12-13
Lucifer is real. That's why the elite worship him with blood ritual (Spirit Cooking) and all Hollywood and Singers talk about selling their souls. The word Sorcery in greek ties to the word pharmakeia which ties to things like LSD, Mushroom, DMT etc. These things are "Sorcery" in the Bible. When you take these things it opens you up to be influenced by devils (demons). This is why guys like Steve Jobs were big on these drugs as they provide "revelations" and breakthroughs in technology and philosophy all which progress Lucifer's agenda of a one world technocracy which his son (the Antichrist) will someday destroy and be everyone's hero.
The human vessel doesn't have any idea what is influencing them unless they are into the Occult and are aware of these things. The idea of atoms, quantum theory, big bang, and evolution can all be tired back to pagan mysticism that came from Babylon. Atomism, Kabbalah, Alchemy, etc are all hidden under the veil of "science" today.
Issac Newton was heavily into the Occult. His inspiration was from these demonic entities. The same goes for all of the "science saints" of history. Their ideas are not their own but come from a spiritual place and in that place Lucifer runs the show.
Lucifer has created the greatest deception in history by hiding the true nature of our existence. That is a flat, enclosed cosmology where the sun, stars, and moon shine down on us through a lens like molten glass. This is why rainbows, sundogs look the way they do. This is why the upper rainbow in a double rainbow invert their colors. It's reflecting off the dome and perspective makes everything look to be the same distance away once you get past your vanishing point (horizon). This is why you can use a magnifying glass and focus moonlight and it will cool things (seriously test this yourself). The Moon gives off it's own cooling light. NASA never went tot he moon and the ISS is a puppet show with wires, harnesses, and Augmented reality.
So the answer to your question is, Lucifer is hiding the nature of your reality because if you knew you were on a flat, enclosed earth you would start to seek God. If you seek him you will find him. It's that simple. Anyone who doesn't find God goes to the same place Lucifer is going in the end. He want to take as many eternal souls to the lake of fire with him.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
1 magic_missile 2017-12-13
Some questions for you...
Why does the Moon librate in its appearance?
If the Moon gives off its own light, why does the lit side always point towards where the Sun is?
Why can Sigma Octantis be seen due South below the Equator at night, no matter where you are? How can this be the case on a flat Earth?
How does the supposed spotlight sun light up the Earth like this on the December solstice?
How can the Sun ever light up clouds from below?
How do solar and lunar eclipses work in the flat Earth? Can you predict them using flat Earth physics?
1 whenipeeithurts 2017-12-13
A quick review of your history shows me you are a shill. You need to purchase a new account. Anyone reading this just take a look at his history. His very existence should make you research Flat Earth.
1 whenipeeithurts 2017-12-13
A quick review of your history shows me you are a shill. You need to purchase a new account. Anyone reading this just take a look at his history. His very existence should make you research Flat Earth.
1 magic_missile 2017-12-13
Guess I will ask again.
Can you explain the south celestial pole on a flat Earth?
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Dont project on me.
Unless you can show me or prove to me why youre right why should I blindly believe you?
FE isnt a belief, there is no deity this isnt a religion. Its not about what you believe or your opinion on the matter.
I completely disagree with your position and you have done nothing to convince anyone that you are correct.
Learn how to argue your position or do more research into it before telling others what to think.
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-12-13
Lol, correcting bad info and misinformation make me the internet thought police?
You can think however you like just dont propagate bad info.
Says the man who cant handle his beliefs being challenged on the internet by strangers.