Can I get a tldr? Dont have time now, but will check out later if interesting

It’s about Gateway computers and prodigy online service. How they both colluded to put compaq out of business.

No that’s what it’s about

Don't lie

lol

muddy the waters elsewhere

doesn't r/politics need to be shepherded towards some new narrative?

Yes, Morgan freeman is a good narrator.

Are you high or just AI?

Al Bundy likes his No Ma’am shirt.

I thought the same. A chabot gone rogue. Interesting times ahead when we all have to question the humanness of online interlocutors.

You clearly don't want people reading this. Thanks for convincing me to 🙂

Lol I don’t care if you read it or not. I read it..actually I’m still reading it.

So you hadn't even read it yet you're telling people what its about? Haha gtfo

I’ve read it before too. But I am reading it now still. You know people re read stuff.

How do you think I knew about GATEWAY!

So if you've read it before, and by now hopefully finished reading it again, please explain how you arrived at

It's about Gateway computers and prodigy online service. How they both colluded to put compaq out of business.

That’s what is comments were about not the post, it’s suppose to be funny

Can you go into more detail than that?

Touch on each one with 3-5 sentences. Just summarize. That would help garner interest.

Excellent.

Thank you for taking the time to type that out. I definitely want to give it a read now.

Consciousness is universal and eternal. We are basically a receiver of it; as an antenna is a receiver of a radio signal.

They have found effect ways to tune in to different fields of the universal consciousness by using advanced meditation techniques and some type of audio called hemi-sync... That's what I got from it.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT everyone just skip ahead to points 26 and 27 and youll be blown away. It says other forms of life exist in our universe and we can communicate with them through out of body experiences (they probably say way more than that I just don't have time to read it all now)

It says other forms of life exist in our universe

On one hand, you've got the Fermi paradox: Infinite universe yet we seem to be all alone.

On the other hand, in such a huge universe you'd think there must be some other life out there somewhere. After all, we exist right?

So one possibility is that we actually exist in a pretty limited number of dimensions (one temporal and three spatial). If there are more total dimensions than we can perceive with our sense, there could easily be forms of life existing at a higher level than what we can perceive.

If this is true, then the part about "we can communicate with them through out of body experiences" starts to make sense.

There are more then a few spiritual paths and religions that actually teach how to percieve and interact with beings in other dimensions.

Every path is a spiritual path with the right mindset

What are they called? I’m super interested in all this now.

There are quite a few around the world.

In China, many taoist and buddha school paths. In India and Tibet, buddhism and some of the hindu religions.

Those paths usually use a combination of meditations, chanting and mudras to reach across the dimensions In South and Central America, along with Africa, there are shamanistic paths that do so. These guys use ayahuasca,peyote and other natural drugs.

Im sure there are plenty of others out there I havent heard of.

Astral projection

If adrenochrome is mentioned then it would tie together a lot of conspiracies.

No mention of adrenchrome or psychedelic experiences. Literally the only topic this document doesn't touch.

Imo this is even more important than drug based experience.

I firmly believe, along with others that physical aliens or extraterrestrial life isn't what we should be looking for.

We should be researching consciousness.

Thank you.

Wow! Sounds super interesting! Thanks for the run down!

Thanks, for the summation. I also didn't have time to read it all,atm.

Any of it... your whole post and comments are vague as fuck. No one wants to sit around and read 29 pages of whatever because it blew your mind but you can't really figure out how to say why.

I don't feel like reading through all of your comments when you can't begin by making a thoughtful statement in the first place. I'm not searching for that one nugget of gold that might have fallen out of your head when you've been prompted multiple times to extrapolate.

Ignore this ^ guy. I was thoroughly interested by your title and even more so by your small description. It’s hard to condense 29 pages of information to three concise points and you did a great job. About to read it now!

Your loss. Now quit trying to derail the conversation.

Wow you suck.

Ho boy, what has you so upset?

Seems like you've never had any realizations that resonate with the information contained in that document.

Don't get mad at OP simply because you haven't seen any of these concepts for yourself. Keep yourself open, and with some luck, you'll come to see the nature of things for yourself.

Lol

There are these things you also have to sit around with called books. And while they have considerably more than 29 pages, and mommy used to read them to you, it's time you try it for yourself. Start with 29 and work your way up! I believe in you!

How’s grade school? I know being a teenager is tough but it gets better promise

Millennials do have a short attention span :-P

Thats prob the same troll with a dif name bro

Reality is very create I’ll give you that. Plus with a gateway 386 and a math co processor even dreams js create!

Compaq computers had cows as their branding.

Nope, that was gateway.

And gateway wanted none of that. They got with CompUSA To boycott their bios chips and replaced them with store brand Doritos.

That register has a compaq inside. Intel wanted to open the gateway and insert dorito instead but they got a cheese puff.

lol

Did you just assume my gender pronouns?

I would be happy to do so...if you think it will help.

Ah Thank you! I actually think I have read i before, or atleast something quite similar. Will check it out no matter what, love this

I read this a few months ago and I totally blew my mind. Will always upvote reposts. I ended up researching the amazing guy they talk about a lot in the report - Itzhak Bentov(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzhak_Bentov). Died in a plane crash like all people who seek to enlighten the masses it seems.

If you have an hour or two, give this a watch - it's unreal how deep this guy is. The first half is from him and the second half was done by his wife after he passed. Between the PDF and this video, my entire view of the universe is upended, and for the better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbeK_6ATxQ

I followed the exact same logic down the Rabbit Hole!

It's a cool article, but their main thesis is that consciousness is a pattern of brain waves, and they use this interpretation (which is pretty controversial to say the least) to "reason" through out of body experiences used by the Gateway Project. The reasoning is: They say that electromagnetic waves oscillate in unique patterns in the brain which makes consciousness. In the instant these electromagnetic waves switch from "positive" to "negative" (picture a sin or cos wave), they are neither positive or negative. The author suggests that in that instant it exists outside our physical reality. Meditation is a way to using breathing/audio tones/hypnosis to reverberate these waves in the skull so much that all these switching points are right next to each other (wish I could draw a picture). That would mean that your consciousness is permanently outside our reality. Sounds cool, and his loose use of physics concepts sounds convincing, but three clear problems arise with this mechanism. 1. Reverberating waves interfere with each other, and wouldn't make this almost overlapping pattern. 2. When these "switching points" are really close to each other, that means the frequency of the wave is very high. Higher frequency means higher energy. At the point where the "switching points" are less than a plank length apart, the wave would be so energetic that it would make a black hole....IN YOUR BRAIN. Clearly not happening. 3. Heisenberg uncertainty principle says a wave's can't have an exact speed and exact location (not that we can't know it, that they CANNOT EXIST as two exact valves simultaneously). If you pinpoint wave to that exact switching spot, then you have no idea where the next switching spot will be (aka it's speed). So also think it's impossible to line up the brain waves like this.

Hope this clears up some on the theories of the paper and why they're wrong. Pretty good way to approach papers that discuss physics: less equations = less trustworthy

Here's a TL;DR article on the documents. Crazy stuff.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pad4a9/the-us-army-funded-astral-projection-and-hypnosis-research-in-the-80s

Yes I have read this one it's my favorite. Dated June 9th 1983.

Essentially they talk about the gateway process which includes hypnosis, transcendental meditation, holograms, expanding the human consciousness, the consciousness matrix, self cognition, space-time dementions, Torus, and others.

Its very detailed and has some pics. It's very long but very interesting.

Exactly GATEWAY!

So, then it seems that what's commonly referred to as a "break through" in other circles actually does contain relevant information to human consciousness and, frankly, the existence of everything in general, correct?

Having read through the first few pages, that's the implication I'm getting

Did you just assume his gangsta pronoun? What if he a G and not a B?

You're spun as fuck, cuz my fellow "human", go to sleep

Mr. Knigroe I’m on mars and it’s red out. #boonkgang

brodie you are out of your element

Will do, this is actually extremely relevant to what I've been grappling with for the past five years.

Thanks for posting this. I'm still a little awestruck that this information is being given to me by a CIA document, furthermore one that was written over 30 years ago. I'm not sure how to feel about this tbh

IT makes computers go round.

This was the 80s, imagine how much they've improved their techniques and research. If they "mastered" the human consciousness and know how to expand and control it, it certainly would explain a few thing going on in the world.

I think this is why they are suppressing our pineal glands, it's our third eye and if we can't expand our minds, we can't think for ourselves and are easier to manipulate.

Yes, that's what happens with Ketamine.

People have so little patience for reading these days.

A negative side effect of technology.

Wow what a find! Intriguing

All seriousness read the CIA release on mars exploration using Astral Traveling and remote Viewing.

Wtf is this. That was crazy. Where can I read more about theses experiments or whatever it is?

I'm confused reading this, what experiment did they do?

They in a way asked subjects to explain a place in a certain time, this place being mars 1mill BC. I'm thinking they induced some form of hypnotic state and the subject self-generated these descriptions.

Ha. How very funny - and by "funny", I mean "synchronistic".

Look what I posted a few months ago. :)

It is indeed a very interesting document. I would invite you to read what I posted in my own OP about the document itself.

Also, for anyone else desiring a tldr on what this document itself is all about, they would do well to read the OP I posted.

Cheers,

It's it quotes, but I'm beginning to fundamentally doubt that "synchronicity" is merely happenstance

What is this space in which we inhabit

Synchronicity is most definitely not just "happenstance" (changed the quotes around on that one ;). We humans and our brains are extremely limited. We have lots of neural, synaptic sectors and abilities "shut off" that if activated would otherwise open our minds up to an entirely different world and way of being and thinking.

We are all connected - sparks in the eternal fires of the Cosmic Consciousness. We are just so limited right now that most of us don't see or realize this truth. Occasionally, we get some humans that are in fact a bit more open to the reality of the multidimensional existence we inhabit - and those individuals we usually marginalize in some manner, call crazy, imprison, lock in an insane asylum, and/or kill.

Yes! I remember. You introduced me to this subject. Thank you

:)

Just as I thought, Fort Meade was infamous for this type of research. Unfortunately, it's all baloney.

Check out Jon Ronson's book, the Men Who Stare At Goats for further reading.

Also, here's a YouTube video of his documentary of the same name.

Bonus: here is the Manual for the First Earth Battalion

The documents aren't evidence supporting their claims. They're simply claims.

The holographic stuff does have some weight in physics these days though.

Agree. Shouldn't be interpreted as anything but entertaining conjecture. Not trying to shit on OP or the find, but hopefully readers don't ditch critical thought because of who published the material.

That's one of my favorite documentaries, and I plan on reading the book some day, but it does very little to dispute the ideas, but rather pokes some fun at the eccentrics and participants in the projects.

One of the first statements from an alleged witness to a funny "spoon bending party" claims the spoons were bent, just not practical for military applications in his mind and a waste of time (and taxes).

Repulse unwanted presences? Wtf like ghost lol

To be honest, yeah! Ghosts, spirits, demons - whatever you wanna call them - are simply other conscious beings. Normally a human can't/is very unlikely to interact with these beings directly. They don't predominantly exist within this 3d expression the universe. They occupy space beyond the restrictions of what we recognise as time, at another frequency to that which our material 3d is based in. (They may be able to interact with the 3d, but we would not be able to recognise that from a 3d perspective, similarly to how from a 2d perspective you couldn't explain why or how the environment changed if it was changed by a 3d being.) When an individual human's consciousness is projected out of the body it enters this 5d "phase space" that isn't affected by time in the same way 3d matter is. Time, from this perspective, becomes another dimensional plane to be transversed through, over and across. You enter a higher dimension wherein multiple realities are existing simultaneously on top of each other and the boundaries between them are much more flexible and fluid. In these states it's possible to interact with other beings who either naturally occupy that space, or are also projecting their consciousness into it from a 3d reality. Some beings are "good", some are "bad" but most - like people - are simply individuals with a mixture of personality traits and characteristics based on what experiences they've been through. It's desirable for a human entering this space - especially one with a given task or mission to complete - to avoid any interactions with beings that would be negative/detrimental to the task at hand or ones own psyche. It's very simple to do this though: asserting your intention. If you make it clear that your intention is to avoid these interactions - especially within higher states of consciousness - then you will avoid those interactions. Consciousness is the underlying force that drives everything in the universe, so whatever you set your intention to, the world will shape itself around.
I recommend anyone and everyone to read this document! It's absolutely fascinating! And as it explains itself in scientific terminology frequently it's relatively easy to follow. Unfortunately page 25(?) is missing and I don't think it exists on the Internet :( which is a bummer. But that doesn't matter. The rest of it alone is plenty enough.

I am seriously saddened that page 25 isn't present. The entirety of the document is fascinating, but just as it starts to bring the element of religion and spirituality into the discussion, we are left wanting.

What I don't understand is how different beings and everyone can just talk to each other while astral projection

If what is being asserted in this document is true, and my interpretation of it is correct, then my thoughts would be that all of the conscious energy exists in the same place at the same time when projected into these different realities or dimensions. I would suspect that the talking involved is more of an conscious energy transfer than actual conversation... telepathy, basically. The author speaks to students in the project building a holographic projection around themselves to for protection from unwanted intrusions while projecting themselves. My assumption is that you could interact with those entities that are in-line with your goals while traveling.

/u/SuperJMC79 made a good comment in reply to you, but check out the long comment I made in this thread a couple hours ago.

What I don't understand is how different beings and everyone can just talk to each other while astral projection

I also had some serious blue balls at page 25. Spent ages looking for it on the Internet but it just ain't on here! But no worries! How much have you read about Buddhism or Hinduism? Because that's your entry point! Then take what you learn from those and apply it to what you read in the bible or the qu'ran. Then mix it all together in your brain and you come to a beautiful understanding of where religion started and how it got to where it is today. Everyone's arguing with each other, but they don't realise they're all arguing for the same thing. They're just seeing it differently to each other.

I've not read much about Buddhism or Hinduism. There was a world religion class that I enjoyed very much in college, where the professor did a great job of making it sound both interesting and appealing. I believe that my best source of information of the philosophy of eastern mysticism has been Alan Watts.

You are right on the money when you say that religion is generally arguing for the same thing. It's shocking, really, how similar most of the major western religions are... the same root of faith. It's really nothing more than a crippling spiritual monopoly.

Interesting.....Itzhak Bentov:

Killed in crash of American Airlines Flight 191

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbeK_6ATxQ

I posted this in another comment, but this is so worth watching. Itzhak was an amazing person. Engineer turned rocket scientist turned explorer of consciousness.

approved for release..remote viewing..

sounds like an advertisement for monroe tapes or they've been reading too much Philip K Dick

Check out itzhak bentovs stalking the wild pendulum for further background info, this document relies on this work most of the time. He also touches topics like reincarnation, your soul should be viewed separated from your body and only enters your body at birth to be able to gather experience in human form, until your body dies and the soul ultimately moves on.

Almost like a driver entering and leaving a car. So in his opinion it is also possible to leave this car at will after a time of practice by using astral projection/remote viewing/obes.

That it's just disinformation hasn't crossed your mind?

Well it corroborates with what shamans and certain spiritual texts have been saying for thousands of years. Not to mention that simulation and holographic theory, which have seen and stood up to significant scientific research in recent years, describe a reality and universe as described both in this document, and in spiritual texts.
It's worth considering this may be disinfo, add the CIA has been known to put out disinfo before, but in this case I believe it's a legitimate study with legitimate findings.

which shamans or spiritual text does it corroborate?

That's a very broad question. Any religious book (the bible, qu'ran, bhagavad gita), but it obviously depends on interpretation. Anyone who takes these books literally won't understand as they've gone through so many translations over thousands of years that some have ended up looking like story books about magic people with powers. I believe religious holy books were the early explanations of science/the universe/existence, but that due to the translations this message has been obscured. But have a read though of your religious book of choice under the premise that any references to gods and magic are metaphorical references to natural laws and universal properties.
I don't know where to start on which shamans... That's quite broad and I've read/learned from a multitude of books and sources haha. I'd say either just go on YouTube and search up something like "shaman holographic theory" or something like that. Or have a read of Be Here Now by Ram Dass where he talks about his guru Neem Karoli Baba and how he explains that a crazy high dose of acid is basically a transcendental state. Honestly, it's not enough for me to try and explain it to you especially through a reddit reply. It's best understood when you dive into this area of research yourself I think. But I hope I've provided something reasonably decent for you to go off!

Thanks OP! This is important for everyone to read. And honestly, 30 Pages of magic aint so bad.

Does the fact that not only does these documents exist, that they have been approved for release by official channels (CIA no less), suggest the validity of their content?

From an epistemological perspective - I believe, no. No relationship. An author doesn't constitute methodological rigor or internal validity. Still interesting as opinion though.

Here's a great interview with Bentov. His theory of the universe is described in detail later on. https://youtu.be/KMbeK_6ATxQ

Why isn't anyone asking why they're on cia.gov?

https://www.monroeinstitute.org/free-audio-downloads

WTF

Holiday sale!!!

mind blown

O shit! Thanks for the link! I'm downloading these immediately!

Audio format?

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I always love these.

This is about [The Men Who Stare at Goats].(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats)

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Instead of buying the Hemi Sync tapes just listen to Forensic Files reruns.

If this actually meant anything it wouldn't have been released.

This is an agent reporting to a commander describing a theory -- not something documenting "facts or "CIA research."

TLDR pls.

We (spiritually minded individuals) have been telling you guys this for a long time.

I see these released cia docs, are these like irrefutable as legit sources? Basically to naysayers will yh is suffice?

I just started reading it. I'll let you know what I think! I'm already a believer somewhat in this stuff anyway. I would imagine if the CIA is documenting it, they have to be somewhat interested/taking it seriously.

I finally got the Hemi-Sync tapes. Haven’t started using them yet, but excited to.

Anyone else notice a page missing near the end? It jumps from point 34 to point 37 from one page to the next. I'm curious what was removed. I found this to be a fascinating read. Thanks for posting.

Here is more on this Gateway Experience/Process/Program:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700270006-0.pdf

https://www.monroeinstitute.org/catalog/122

Also the similar links at the bottom of this page (the page linking to the document provided by OP): https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5

I was thinking about this very subject on my way to work today and look what I find on reddit?!

Weird.

Thanks for posting it. Ive saved it and will re-read it and share it with people I think might be open to the information.

It is stuff like this that keeps me coming to this sub reddit.

This seems to at least attempt to answer the real big question in my mind: what the fuck is really going on?

The tapes are available for free if you know where to look online. I recently went through the first volume mentioned in the document, and posted my review here.

I'm open to questions if anybody has any.

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Consciousness is universal and eternal. We are basically a receiver of it; as an antenna is a receiver of a radio signal.

They have found effect ways to tune in to different fields of the universal consciousness by using advanced meditation techniques and some type of audio called hemi-sync... That's what I got from it.

No mention of adrenchrome or psychedelic experiences. Literally the only topic this document doesn't touch.

Imo this is even more important than drug based experience.

which shamans or spiritual text does it corroborate?