What made you realise it was true?

russian mass media is much more honest than western mass media

Can you explain why you think this? I've personally never heard much truth coming from Russian sate media.

I guess it is hard to lie when the Russian state gets to decide what's true...

How do you explain the Russian government lying about invading Ukraine despite the evidence?

How do you explain the Russian government lying about invading Ukraine despite the evidence?

And the US media doesn't?

Sure they do, most of the sites posted in this subreddit lie as a course of business, but they aren't all owned by the government.

I have heard this before but from Russians living in Europe .

My younger brother was born in Moscow in 1960 when I was a kid, and we came to the US in 61. It was culture shock, and I can relate to what you might feel. But there was a big change in the US when JFK was killed, and I started doubting the US propaganda. But after 9/11 I have hated this country. At least Russia woke up, as fu..d up as it was and is.

You had a famine in the 1980’s that killed millions of people because your government was so corrupt it could not supply farming equipment

It was then and is still now illegal to be gay in Russia

Your whole country is run by gangsters, literally

But yeah America has illegal weed and we support Israel- yeah we are terrible

US is run by corporations. Literally apples to apples bud

every country on Earth has its share of the corrupt and malevolent

the point about economic-ideology-as-religion is a really interesting topic - in my worldview mankind is inherently religious (not only in terms of how we think and behave but metaphysically) so in a very meaningful sense the entire history of the post-Enlightenment era has been the transfer of religious belief from the spiritual to the material, or from the belief in a higher power to the belief that Man is a higher power (not that this doesn't open other cans of worms concerning the blurring of lines between religious and political institutions)

But after 9/11 I have hated this country.

Yet here you are.

This isn’t the handsmaid tale. The country is diverse. If you don’t want to live with southern mouth breathers that tote guns and the Bible move to one of the liberal hot beds where people don’t give a shit about your moral core as long as you bring something to the table economically or socially. If that doesn’t please you there are many cities and towns that don’t adhere to these polar extremes.

Yeah the fed has been looting power and deceiving to maintain it. But the country is made up of people like you and I. To go on an emotionally charged rant against the USA while somehow viewing Russia as a “woke” state is so backwards. It clearly displays how uninformed you are about the economic fallout that the USSR collapse caused and the power vacuum it created in the area.

where people don’t give a shit about your moral core as long as you bring something to the table economically or socially

I wonder if you even realize what you just said - thanks though, it really does say it all

Am I supposed to fluff your pillows too?

This is the reality of the situation. You meet shitty people. You meet great people. Where's the utopia you imagine in your mind to be?

I just find it bizarre and very telling that you make a derogatory and moralistic claim about an entire culture and then in the same sentence openly say that that morals don't matter to you, only money and social connections do

I had to reread that as well. He was very accurate with that statement.

What I mean by woke in regards to Russia is they know their oligarchs have been lying to them and playing them.

The US isn't woke in the same way because in the US people are much more still under the spell of the two party system, still under the spell of the ideology of exceptionalism, still sweeping the truth under the carpet BIG TIME in a thousand ways that Russian people are not.

We fall for hating Muslims, we fall for hating Russians, we fall for hating whoever we are told to hate, meanwhile we hide from the truth that our government has become a genocidal war criminal, our country has become a rogue state. Yeah, we were that also during Vietnam, but we should have learned from that. We should have learned from the lies that got us into Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. etc. etc. but we did not.

I am not saying that the US hasn't done some GREAT things, it has, but since 9/11 it hasn't and its pretending it did. So its time to stand up and call bs what it is: BS!!!!!

You think Lenin was enlightened ? You do realize he referred to anyone who opposed the Marxist state as an insect that needed to be exterminated. A lot of people place blame on Stalin for many of the atrocities that occurred during the Soviet era, but if you read the Gulag Archipelago or research into a lot of the actions of Lenin, it becomes obvious that he laid the groundwork for a lot of the killings that went on in soviet Russia.

Reading comprehension is getting to be a lost art. Read what I said again, a little more slowly.

The old Soviet ideology was more like a religion than I realized. Beliefs, taboos, sins, rewards, hypocrisy, suppression of truth.

yes, in this communist ideology, Lenin, also Marx, were considered to be enlightened humans, towering geniuses. Based on that, in the Soviet Union, they ruthlessly promoted science and industry, transforming Russia from an agricultural fuedal society of Czar Nicholas in 1917 to one of the most industrialized countries in Europe by the 50's. At an inexcusably huge cost, with mass genocide of their own people. It was complicated though, by a real fear that the US would do to them what it did in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the targeted audience of which was as much Stalin as it was Hirohito. As the United States dropped its atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945, 1.6 million Soviet troops launched a surprise attack on the Japanese army occupying eastern Asia. Within days, Emperor Hirohito's million-man army in the region had collapsed. US plans to drop another half dozen bombs in Japan were cancelled due to the Soviet success and the immediate surrender of Hirohito.

Do I think Lenin or Marx were enlightened, or heroes? No. But the Soviet ideology promoted that teaching, as much as the US ideology rests on making heroes of scum like Ollie North and Mai Lai Vietnam mass murderer Calley, Syria mass murderer McCain, or Abu Gharib low lifes "who just followed orders".

This guy thinks the US is more brutal than the USSR after Stalin. He thinks it got better after Stalin. This is either Russian propaganda or it's one of the idiot leftists that thinks communism is preferable to what we have. The meme of "that wasn't real communism" is now a mainstream left viewpoint.

Hey, does anyone over there actually think the US went to the moon?

Well the Soviet government verified that we landed on the moon, so yes

Do you believe anti-Russian propaganda?

I've always been curious about this too. I know that other parts of the world don't like the U.S. but what is it that you guys are being told about America that might come off as anti west propaganda ?

As an American, I always thought the label 'IMPERIALIST" as odd. It made no sense to be called something archaic. Like a misused insult that only causes a smirk. But when considering the charge of Imperialism, I have thought how Che Guevara probably looked right at the cause of all Latin and South American misery and couldn't adequately verbalize in a creative and descriptive way how American Corporations and Business pursuits were the source of all the misery. This Capitalism, that we champion, is our only alternative to a threat of Communists coming and stripping the wealth and possessions away from Americans and redistributing in what we interpret as unfair to those who don't deserve it. It runs counter to the "American Dream" of going out West and striking it rich. It is the Successful Businessman who is the hero and icon of America, But like Hunter S. Thompson said, "the American Dream died in Las Vegas, and it continues to die every day, one American at a time." Everyone should point their fingers at American Corporate power This unrestrained and unregulated beast is the culprit that consumes the world for increased profits and valuation of stocks and controls our democracies. It seduces us all with a false hope that all us little people just might be able to get a piece of the wealth. It's Neo Feudalism.

I don't consider myself average and I still say its archaic. It absurd as being called an Egyptian pyramid builder.

I think you don't understand the basic American Foreign Policy. 1. The American Government will support American Business to the right to have access to foreign markets. 2. The Government will prohibit the development of Nuclear weapons in other countries.

That isn't trying to make an Empire to rule. It's to create monopolies where America buys and owns everything. It's not theft. It's Capitalism. And Capitalism, with no decent alternative economic system, is the only game we are allowed to play by the Rich and Power Brokers of this world.

And I think its terrible. It is Feudalism like the Dark Ages. Except the Rich People do not get to sleep with your wife on your marriage night. And a bunch of assholes wearing armor do not come visit the village to beat up everybody who isn't producing enough.

I resent that you have not comprehended anything I have written. I never mentioned we have a "right"
I attempted to present to you how this US Government behaves. It behaves this way because Rich and Powerful Americans deem it necessary to act in ways that make them all of the money so they can continue to be Rich and Powerful. And it will be this way regardless of how American citizens vote because our government is owned by the Rich and Powerful. And it has been this way since WW2 and will be this way until some stronger nation comes and forces us to change. Like the Allies made Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany change, for the benefit of the whole world.

Well, i myself, born in the late 60's in the GDR and don't want that system back. As all current or ex-political systems it had good sides and also horrible flaws but compared to the GDR living in Germany now is a lot easier and better.

But i also think Russia today is not really better than the USA. Putin and his friends are also corrupt as much of the political systems in the USA. Also they both still play their cold war games but on a much smaller scale.

Ironically, it took the collapse of the USSR to make it true.

Yes, but it kept capitalism in check. Think of the field day cold war, communist Russia would have had with this farce that US democracy (rr) has become.