So it is still illegal to buy and sell drugs, and it is not a legalization of drugs. Its just the people getting caught with a drug problem can now get help instead of sending them to prison.

Good law, good on Norway

I wish sweden did the same!

But with SD at the wheels i feel this is nothing that will even get discussed

Tack broder!

God damn, the thought of being high public with other tin foil people in Norway makes me moist

The thought of another t'foili being female and tolerating my thought makes me harder than ... Most things. Sapiophile.

Oh man those chicks are the bomb. They are incredibly rare. But they exist. I put a ring on one of them.

im entertained by the fact that getting moist gets 10 upvotes, but getting hard in the same context gets -5 thus far~ sexist reddit pig dogs. ;]

Its all about the setting bro

Yes, in Finland it seems to be the same too. The professionals don't give a damn where or what you get if you're seeking help, only how much you use and when. They want a urine sample every now and then to keep track of your progress. At no point are cops involved, and sometimes not even a big drug rehab -clinic. You deal directly with a friendly young professional who you can talk to about movies, video games or comics as you discuss a personal plan to quit the drugs you use.

The USA is already like this... I have no idea where this idea came from that the police will arrest you for being high. I've never heard of or seen that in my life. I've seen people be thrown in drunk tanks and stuff if they're drunk in public but that's not even a criminal thing in itself, they just let you leave when you've sobered up. People processing drugs, especially large amounts that are likely going to be distributed are the individuals getting into trouble with the law.

Being high = being in possession within your system.

Petty, yes. But it happens.

I, and many other people I know have caught felony possession charges over an empty baggy or a used needle before. America is fucking ridiculous with drug laws.

So you got in trouble for possession... They definitely stretched it and that sucks. But you weren't arrested simply for being high.

Ah, sorry, I got mixed up. But they absolutely can arrest you for being high, especially if you're driving (that's what DWI is for, it's a DUI when they can't quantify HOW fucked up you are like with a breathalyzer). And if you're obviously/visibly high enough, you can absolutely get arrested for public intoxication. Probably not gonna happen on weed but if you're nodding really bad from dope or clearly tripping they can and absolutely will take you to jail. Again, I've seen it happen (my city has even shittier police than most of you can't tell). I've seen it happen from both dxm and dope/benzoes. And tons of people o know have gotten DWI's.

Because you live in a bubble.

And another thing Americans can learn from.

It seems to me, do let me know if I am off base though, that this exact sentiment could have been conveyed without the pseudo-intellectual, "grey poop-ony" air of smug superiority/dripping condescension and, FWIW, I would have merely agreed with your post 100%.

Instead, I almost feel compelled to ask what Norway's stance will be on drugs when Koranic Law becomes the new law of the land. Or what happens when Norway's super neato, warms the heart and looks great on paper(unless looking at the financial reality of it), super welfare financial state goes the way of Greece? As anyone merely looking at the numbers can fairly easily concluded this is a matter of when and not if -- barring a massive change in policy that will never in reality get close to occurring. But meh it's not worth the time, TBH.

It´s Norway man. They got the cash

Koranic law, l laughed

I wonder what that is like to have your leaders actually use their brains and make up their minds to vote for themselves rather than just vote down party lines every fucking time.

~party~ money lines

I wonder what that is like to have your leaders actually use their brains and make up their minds

I wonder what it is like for those people who don't need 'leaders'.

I read this in Vincent Vega's voice....

A good step on the way to perfect legalization

I'm in the market for a Norwegian way to help me get Norwegian citizenship if anyone's interested . . . :)

Where are you from?

United States :(

Ah okay! Normally you would have to stay in Norway for seven years legally without citizenship, and you do that by applying for a extended visa every year I think, take norwegian classes, pass norwegian test, confirm you are who you say you are, and its more challanging if you have a criminal record. Its late here now, but i can help you more after a good night sleep. If you are really serious about it, Ill translate whatever you need. Just PM if you are wondering about something specific

Damn, and people flip shit at the usa Against immigrants and refugees. Can someone just marry into the country or have a baby anchore to speed up the process? Where do you deport to?

Norway throw away all their rejects and garbage to Sweden.

Hence i am in Sweden with all my garbage people /s

And yes, I can help you with whatever you need, just reply or pm if Youre wondering about something

Im in too, looking for a hot norwegian wife to get legal. I promise great sex, lots of cute children and breakfast on bed! (23yo latino alfa white male) XD

Norwegians may not see you as "white". I'm not trying to be offensive, just that the concept of whiteness that people use in the US is not something scandianvians use. You'd be "rasifierad" in Scandinavia due to being latin, if you want to be.

I know man, no offense taken. I know we are not "white", although im reaaally white. And is a joke by the way, I couldn't date a norwegian, even if they are aryan gorgeous, they don't have the bodies, that warm and comfortable feeling a latina gives you.

For fedrelandet!

Population of entire country of norway is 1/4th of new york city... Not sure if that is relevant. But for population density and stuff. It might be.

So what? I see that "But US is so biiig!" as an argument way too often. Why would it not be possible to decriminalize drugs just because there are more people?

You missinturpret. Not that it shouldnt be, but like topless laws in new york or prostetution in nevada, or weed in colorado, its easy to get a small geographic and culturally homogenous populous to accept certain ideals.

If you have traveled the usa, you know ideas nationally are just as if not more diverse than we see in europe. A single region or state in the usa adopting a policy may affect millionons more than a single nation in europe. Until the eu can be progressive enough to adopt a policy, it's laughable to think the entire US under national laws would beat them to it. Regions and cultures differ. Stares rights are on par with european nations individual rights. Be happy with the small victories and travel more.

The us really does seem like 5 or 6 separate countries doesn't it? I've seen variations of that idea with different maps and borders drawn up and I gotta say, some of them are pretty compelling.

California is on par to be the 10th largest population by european standards. Texas is also bigger than 90% of eu nations. New york city alone is more populous than most eu nations. My small city midwest home is larger than ALL of iceland by population. Makes a person stop and think. My home town is larger than the home of the vikings.

Isn't California like the 6th largest Economy in the world too?

You bring up a good point about population, I hadn't even considered that, I was just thinking from a culture standpoint. Just think how different the people are from west coast, to Deep South, to Midwest, etc in everything from politics, to cuisine, dialect, and religious intensity (let's face it there's not much diversity on that front in the US, it's just various shades of Christians with little pockets of other stuff, the only diversity is how bad the Christians are in an area).

The major problem with splitting it up though is there's a lot of states that are mostly kept afloat through federal programs, a lot of people would probably suffer even more while more wealth was further consolidated in a few cities. Still.. it'd be really nice to not have the whole country's policies dragged down by backwards fucking fundamentalists in The south or Midwest. (And I say this as someone who lives in the south and knows first hand how terrible they are).
I guess America is just kind of fucked no matter which direction we go.

Just think how different the people are from west coast, to Deep South, to Midwest, etc in everything from politics, to cuisine, dialect, and religious intensity (let's face it there's not much diversity on that front in the US, it's just various shades of Christians with little pockets of other stuff, the only diversity is how bad the Christians are in an area).

Hence why the gay marriage thing was a pretty big deal when it happened. It'll be the same way with drug policy as well, unfortunately.

God I hate how right you are. Plus they also have more support (and unchecked power in every branch of government)now for things like repealing the Johnson amendment, teaching creationism in public schools, and every other shitty thing they've been trying for the past 20 years and just barely been stopped on.

All of those differences in regional culture you mention in the US exist in Norway, too. Different regions speak entirely different dialects (to the point of being hard to understand), have different food customs, different folk music. Hell, they had to invent another kind of Norwegian language just to accommodate the differences in spoken language between regions of the country.

You know what? The US is just as culturally 'homogenous' as Norway. The same shit is shown on TV in New York as Atlanta as LA as Seattle. The NFL dominates on Sunday. Everything gets pre-empted for the state of the Union. The Oscars are on TV in the spring.

What you fail to realize when you attempt to canonize this 'huge difference' in America vs a country you've decided is so 'homogenous' is that what you're really saying is that there's more white people. You're saying that it wouldn't work here because there are more minorities. You may not think that's what it sounds like, but your ignorance (which isn't by definition bad) of the difference between a regional culture structure and a national culture structure makes you look foolish.

My home town is larger than the home of the vikings.

You live in Vinland so you're excused for not knowing that vikings were from the scandinavian countries of Denmark, Sweden and Norway, with Iceland primary being settled by norwegians. So we're talking ~15 million vikings today.

Finns were part of Viking culture too, but most people forget this, including the finns.

That's why I didn't count them in. But they got the required cross/sword national flag, so they do belong. So were talking approx. 21 mill.

Take one million off, that's the amount of Irakians in Sweden.

More diverse than Europe!? It's 27 different countries...not watered down 3rd generation immigrants from those countries, actual different countries, languages, cultures. Jeeez

Best news I've heard all day.

The US taking similar steps would likely be the best move they could make in the interest of reducing crime, in all categories.

Yea but then so many people make a lot less money. Never gonna happen when the whole justice system is made of various corporations.

So much money is made from the "war on drugs."

How hard is it to immigrate to Norway?

Yes.

easy if you are Muslim

Norway: Making America look retarded since 1814.

America: Making America look retarded since 1776.

I know where my next vacation is.

You are so smitten with drugs that you would plan a vacation just to use more of them?

Joke

Fuck that liberal shitpit. Thank god for Republicans. Weed won't be legal in my state as long as I have the right to vote.

Did someone hotbox your crib as a baby lmao u mad for this one

No time to smoke the devils lettuce when you have to run between church and diddle kids

Yeah keep pissing my tax dollars away on an unwinnable war, you people really like to tax and spend.

The Republican Logic: Decriminalizes use of drugs is bad! Decriminalizes use of guns is ok...

r/iamverybadass you're a cringy fuck

liberal shitpit

Literally one of the most economically, politically, and socially developed countries with one if the world's highest standard of living's

Pick one.

I did, I picked the one that didn't include your horrendous misspellings.

The republican logic: Decriminalizes use of drugs is bad! Decriminalizes use of guns is ok...

Wish my country, Sweden, would wise up and make this change. Given the current climate I say it's 40 years away

I don't believe so. Since thei dear immigrants are the largest group that gets caught with drugs i think they will change the law soon.

So what are norways immigration laws like?.. My relatives are from Norway.. Will that give me a better chance for citizenship!?

Now, just to convince my wife and kids.. 🤔

God I hate how right you are. Plus they also have more support (and unchecked power in every branch of government)now for things like repealing the Johnson amendment, teaching creationism in public schools, and every other shitty thing they've been trying for the past 20 years and just barely been stopped on.

Thank you for pointing out that i appear foolish and ignorant. Your assumptions aside and my now pointed out inaccuracies, i stand by my interest and hypothesis that it is easier to manage policy in a nation of 5.5 million vs 325.5 million. It would be ignorant of you (which isn't bad by definition) to believe otherwise.

But does it have vulcanos?

Again, depends where you live. Drunk in public is SUPER easy to get where I live. Cops hang out outside bars and will harass you for stepping off the curb wrong even if you aren't drunk. And I think I'm pretty qualified to speak on that one since I work in a bar.

I'm sure you have ample experience in the matter. How many times have you been thrown in the drunk tank, and let it with no charges?!

"Unless you start a fight or otherwise break another law while being drunk in public you will more than likely just be let out in the morning. " How many times has this good fortune happened to you? If you have never experienced this yourself and then got let out without a charge, you're just shouting an uneducated opinion.