I see your point, and honestly it weird. The whole thing is weird, I had typed up a huge post but was hesitant and just posted this to get to convo started
It is weird but think about it logically for a minute.
Anyone on here posting about anything is open to scrutiny. If you know your stuff you can find out who i am in a few short minutes.
If you were the lowest of the lowest (as child fuckers are considered to be), would you take that chance or would you use dark web forums and code words?
This is very true! But it would be easy to hide among that "clutter"
This is my intuition speaking so take it as you will, but can we not see an actual news piece on someone busted for pedophila who was active in the discussions? Isn't that always how it comes to be?
Heh...I've seen this ridiculous talking point pop up a lot recently. Pgate isn't the cover for pedophiles, it is the pedophiles. And it spiraled into Pedogate, which is far broader in its scope and implications. What you are saying will, either intentionally or not, eventually smother any and all discussion of Pgate, by making it so that if we accept the reality that our politicians and celebrities are degenerate pieces of shit who abuse children, suddenly we're the pedophiles.
Here's some evidence to show you our politicians are definitely involved in this shit:
I don't want to polorize anyone because you are correct, there are pedophiles in our government.
And I will point out that yesterday I was able to discredit a post on here about a huge pedobust that actually turned out to be Russian propaganda from 2014...
But I guess here is a new question, are they directly connected with pizzagate? Or do they act alone?
I guess I just see that the pizzagate thing as a gateway to pedophilia.
Showing people how pedophiles operate is like that one time the MSM was showing people how terrorist make pipe bombs. Sometimes too much exposure is just that, too much and it actually reproduces the problem in a way no one can predict.
Also I is impossible to find a single victim of the actual pizzagate scandal anywhere, how can there be evidence of a crime without a victim? What's the point of all this unless it's actually what I see it as, reproducing and normalizing pedophila
Showing people how pedophiles operate is like that one time the MSM was showing people how terrorist make pipe bombs. Sometimes too much exposure is just that, too much and it actually reproduces the problem in a way no one can predict.
Exposing people to Pgate won't make them Pedophiles...that's not how this works. Pedophilia is a mental predisposition, it doesn't just "happen", one is born with the condition and lives with it their entire life.
Also I is impossible to find a single victim of the actual pizzagate scandal anywhere, how can there be evidence of a crime without a victim? What's the point of all this unless it's actually what I see it as, reproducing and normalizing pedophila
Pgate was always based on the emails, the instagram photos, the bands and their art at CPP. If you get to the root of it you understand why there are no victims to come forward...you don't survive this. You are raped, tortured, and murdered, all in the name of ritual magick. Pgate isn't the normalization of Pedophilia, it is the thread that leads to the unraveling of our entire Elites infatuation with it.
Our society is quit to discredit things that are not socially accepted as born traits.
But it is also quick to discredit the horrific abuse of children by adults who should know better and control their feelings. It's not something that should be protected- it is something that should be carefully rooted out and watched.
If it was a born trait why has the gene not been identified and eliminated?
I want to ask you, why is it that you so free accept psychology as truth but can be so skeptical about many other pillars of our society. I mean this honestly and would be interested to know your opinion on psychology
I want to ask you, why is it that you so free accept psychology as truth but can be so skeptical about many other pillars of our society. I mean this honestly and would be interested to know your opinion on psychology
Psychology has its issues but there are some things it gets right- Schizophrenia is a mental issue, depression is a mental issue, pedophilia is a mental issue. Pedophiles are literally people stuck in their own puberty/prepubescence who are attracted to that age group. There's nothing controversial there at all.
Where psychology goes wrong is in the multitude of approved studies and "science" with results that can not be replicated. Nothing I stated above is a part of that though.
I tend to think of it from the Politicians/Elites pov...a living victim is a loose end. You can get away with this all day, for generations, as long as you make sure they're eliminated once their usefulness is gone. The doc I linked about the Franklin Scandal- Conspiracy of Silence- explains a lot of this at the end, like how they physically intimidated Paul Bonnaci into not testifying, and how the FBI forced him to recant his testimony and ensnare the other victim- Alicia Owens- who upon refusing to recant spent 25 fucking years in jail. And this was in the 80's! They're more careful now, they don't leave loose ends lying about anymore...I highly recommend you take an hour of your time and watch it. Conspiracy of Silence will show you how Pgate can be so real.
Well, perhaps it was retracted so that people who commit crimes don't see murdering their victims as the only option. That's kind of a scary thought, all crime turning to murder (yes this is a dramatic thought but I hope you see what I am getting at)
When you are talking about high level abuse, there really isn't another option. Bonnaci then came forward and admitted that the FBI strong armed him, while Alicia Owens never recanted her testimony and served her whole fucking sentence, then when Bonnaci was supposed to show up in court to set the record straight, he disappeared and hasn't been seen again.
Shit is far more fucked than you realize, my friend.
That you for letting me know that "shit is far more fucked up that I realize" lol.
I respect you and what you have said but I do not appreciate that attempt to make me seem any less than you. It's not fair and makes me question your intent
I respect you and what you have said but I do not appreciate that attempt to make me seem any less than you.
I didn't make you "seem any less than me". I made an observation based on our discussion. You are skeptical of Pgate and its aims, as well as the systematized abuse perpetrated by our Politicians. It's a hard pill to swallow but the world definitely gets darker when one does. I'm just having a friendly conversation, not belittling you.
It's not fair and makes me question your intent
I mean, you have my entire post and submission history to dig through if you want to question my intent. I'm here in good faith and always have been.
Yeah, I see now you may have a lot of information at your disposal but you express very little emotional maturity, I simply asked that you not belittle me and you are now defending yourself and I hope you know I see right through this and it makes what you say seem less credible.
Yeah, I see now you may have a lot of information at your disposal but you express very little emotional maturity,
Ok?
I simply asked that you not belittle me and you are now defending yourself and I hope you know I see right through this and it makes what you say seem less credible.
Lol I never belittled you, I have been very kind and polite in this discussion. You are the one trying to turn this into something it is not, accusing me of being immature and attacking you, when I have done no such thing. Concerning my credibility, my posts and comments speak for themselves, regardless of what you have to say.
Perhaps you should take a humble pill my friend.
Considering I've done no wrong to you, I find this kinda funny.
I told you I felt belittled by your original statement, and you chose to have a referndum on my -feelings-
No, I explained that I wasn't belittling you, and I defended myself when you accused me of it, when you said you distrusted my motives, and when you said I lack emotional maturity. I never attacked you, you are the one attacking me.
You continue to defend yourself, I typed up a huge thing at this point and the deleted it because it not worth trying to get through to you
Ok lol. I don't think this conversation is going anywhere else at this point anyways.
So you blame the people pointing out the heinous crime for committing the crime so the real criminals face no heat. Switching focus is a tactic used to do this. I stopped posting pizzagte stuff to facebook because of this. This tactic is effectively used to silence people since no one wants to even consider they'd do the same fucked up shit much less be publicly accused of harboring those feeling internally.
And now that John Podesta is being trotted out to be rebranded as an Alien ufo guru or something, these types of posts are becoming more prevalent. It makes me wonder just how dumb they think most people are. You see the problem with Pizzagate isn't just that he may be molesting children, its that they may also be participating in cannibalism to ingest Adrenochrome, and when you start to knock on the door that is Pizzagate you realize that not just this conspiracy, but all of them run together to cover up for a lie that began long ago, much longer than we have publicly available written history for.
To be honest I knew about Podesta's interest in UFOs long before pizzagate.
The people who don't like this pizzagate stuff tend to be actual parents of children, maybe it makes no sense but maybe the intuition of a parent means something?
They don't like Pizzagate because it forces them to confront the very thing I said, a long with the fear that their children aren't safe. Ignorance is bliss.
There was a person named Laura Silsby that directly ties Hillary to this. She was accused of attempting to traffic 30 children with her. She was convicted, changed her name and now runs the center for alerts that deal with missing children. The Clinton foundation is the center where the money was exchanged for the people.
Ok, you win. No reason to suspect that Hilary has any connection to someone she essentially propelled forward. If you're ok with that explanation why are you here? I am not. Actually kind of regret replying to you here. I know where you're going with this. Arguing things down to the finite details is your game, unfortunately when you do this, you also miss the bigger picture. There is no real reason to try and show someone what some of us see happening that operates this way. You do understand this don't you? You will find all the holes you want in this theory like any other. So you sir, get a cupcake today for your victory here.
I've provided plenty, the fact that you don't see that just refers back to my original post. You can be right here, I stand to lose nothing from it. If its your opinion that there has been no suspicious activity, that there is no reason to at least look in to the events that took place, how they did and why they did I have to ask again what are you doing here exactly? I don't need to change your mind about this, it isn't a task any person should take upon when meeting someone they disagree with.
Just like you not agreeing with me doesn't change the fact that I do believe there's reason to be suspicious and look further in to this matter.
On Tuesday, Reginald Brown, an American lawyer for Jim Allen, one of the detainees, wrote to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, asking her to personally get involved in the case.
And... did she personally get involved in the case? It doesn't seem like it. If Hillary was already in business with and protecting Silsby, why would her lawyer need to write to Hillary to ask for assistance?
Hahaha its like you're a professional at dragging people in to these discussions. Pass bro you are 100%$ right.
prodded in part by President Clinton’s
diplomatic efforts on behalf of the missionaries6
—determined that
none of the missionaries were guilty of illegal activities, except the leader
Laura Silsby, who faced a lesser charge of organizing illegal travel.7
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Her name isn't in it directly. She has no involvement. I seriously think you should go apply to work at your local police departments detective program. I think we'd have much fewer crimes left outstanding if we just had more people like you carefully looking at things. You've really shown me the light here.
Hi friend, I read a lot of what you have posted though not all of it but it was all very interesting.
To be honest, I think you maybe a victim of gaslighting. Usually seen in abusive relationships it’s a form of control that rewrites what a person sees as the truth. I found myself, as I usually do, captivated and convinced through looking into this and was honestly just like wow how did I not see all of this, but I saw a random pic of the “murder room” at comet pizza and realized that this was all an elaborate control mechanism.
I encourage everyone to look up gaslighting, look at the signs and symptoms.
hahaha you've been doing this very same thing over and over in this sub with this subject. If this is the conclusion you came to before you even read what I posted (which its clear you already held this position) why waste time disputing something you have no interest in?
Yes my friend, but you under estimate to power of the fake garbage “New” you promote here, new evidence makes your brain think that maybe you missed something and all of a sudden this bull shit pizza gate has you question if Hillary Clinton is sucking on a baby’s neck before bed.
Live for yourself, when I made this post it’s cause I was concerned about how frequently I was seeing this garbage reproduced In what should be a very interesting sub, and potentially would turn to the r/pedo hide out if you are careful
Also, I will tell you that I first lurked around this Reddit a few months ago and really actually believed this pizzagate thing, like actually showed people in my life in hopes that my see it, but eventually I read something about this comet pizza owner and his now failing business and was like damn... his restaurant got shot up and all the tramatic things that happen as a result of such inflamitory shit. Idk how to say but all I know is that it is dangerous what is going out in our world. It's so easy to just see something and believe it and that's all that's happening except in this case it's actually to the point of mind control. Believeing pizzagate unleashes some scary things inside of a person, question the MSM has always been a thing but ignoring everything they say as false is very dangerous
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
I live outside of D.C. And say that MS-13 although involved in drugs actually operates more on sex traffic young Latin American girls which lead to a lot of dissapearences
So you blame the people pointing out the heinous crime for committing the crime so the real criminals face no heat. Switching focus is a tactic used to do this. I stopped posting pizzagte stuff to facebook because of this. This tactic is effectively used to silence people since no one wants to even consider they'd do the same fucked up shit much less be publicly accused of harboring those feeling internally.
And now that John Podesta is being trotted out to be rebranded as an Alien ufo guru or something, these types of posts are becoming more prevalent. It makes me wonder just how dumb they think most people are. You see the problem with Pizzagate isn't just that he may be molesting children, its that they may also be participating in cannibalism to ingest Adrenochrome, and when you start to knock on the door that is Pizzagate you realize that not just this conspiracy, but all of them run together to cover up for a lie that began long ago, much longer than we have publicly available written history for.
I am concerned about terrorism, I am not curious how that made the pipebomb.
I am concerned about pedophila, I am not curious about their pizza launguage.
Dramatic point: never saw anyone teaching Arabic as a way to stop terrorism and honestly most would see that as a breeding ground for more terrorist regardless of intent
I don't want to polorize anyone because you are correct, there are pedophiles in our government.
And I will point out that yesterday I was able to discredit a post on here about a huge pedobust that actually turned out to be Russian propaganda from 2014...
But I guess here is a new question, are they directly connected with pizzagate? Or do they act alone?
I guess I just see that the pizzagate thing as a gateway to pedophilia.
Showing people how pedophiles operate is like that one time the MSM was showing people how terrorist make pipe bombs. Sometimes too much exposure is just that, too much and it actually reproduces the problem in a way no one can predict.
Also I is impossible to find a single victim of the actual pizzagate scandal anywhere, how can there be evidence of a crime without a victim? What's the point of all this unless it's actually what I see it as, reproducing and normalizing pedophila
hahaha you've been doing this very same thing over and over in this sub with this subject. If this is the conclusion you came to before you even read what I posted (which its clear you already held this position) why waste time disputing something you have no interest in?
Yes my friend, but you under estimate to power of the fake garbage “New” you promote here, new evidence makes your brain think that maybe you missed something and all of a sudden this bull shit pizza gate has you question if Hillary Clinton is sucking on a baby’s neck before bed.
Live for yourself, when I made this post it’s cause I was concerned about how frequently I was seeing this garbage reproduced In what should be a very interesting sub, and potentially would turn to the r/pedo hide out if you are careful
Also, I will tell you that I first lurked around this Reddit a few months ago and really actually believed this pizzagate thing, like actually showed people in my life in hopes that my see it, but eventually I read something about this comet pizza owner and his now failing business and was like damn... his restaurant got shot up and all the tramatic things that happen as a result of such inflamitory shit. Idk how to say but all I know is that it is dangerous what is going out in our world. It's so easy to just see something and believe it and that's all that's happening except in this case it's actually to the point of mind control. Believeing pizzagate unleashes some scary things inside of a person, question the MSM has always been a thing but ignoring everything they say as false is very dangerous
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1 Mecanatron 2017-12-20
What if the people that post about people that post about pizzagate, are the real pedophiles.
And now that i've posted about the people that post about those that post abut pizzagate, what does that make me? :O
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I see your point, and honestly it weird. The whole thing is weird, I had typed up a huge post but was hesitant and just posted this to get to convo started
1 Mecanatron 2017-12-20
It is weird but think about it logically for a minute.
Anyone on here posting about anything is open to scrutiny. If you know your stuff you can find out who i am in a few short minutes.
If you were the lowest of the lowest (as child fuckers are considered to be), would you take that chance or would you use dark web forums and code words?
1 69-Shitposter-420 2017-12-20
omg r u q?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
1 Mecanatron 2017-12-20
No, im 'R'
My clearance is a level above 'Q' but nowhere near that of 'S'.
Who ate the sandwiches? What filling was in the sandwiches? What is chicken? What is bacon? Where is the mustard?
Stay black, stay proud.
1 69-Shitposter-420 2017-12-20
omg this is like some kind of treasure hunt, except the treasure is some sweaty redditor in a hot basement in Arizona
1 Mecanatron 2017-12-20
I fucking wish i was sweating in Arizona! I'm fucking freezing here.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Didn't that guy shoot at the floor of comet pizza trying to get the kids out? Turns out there is no basement lol
1 ApocalypseFatigue 2017-12-20
Everybody knows we don't have basements.
1 69-Shitposter-420 2017-12-20
then where do the pedos hide their pizza
1 ApocalypseFatigue 2017-12-20
The Deep Freeze
1 69-Shitposter-420 2017-12-20
I like u guys
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
This is very true! But it would be easy to hide among that "clutter"
This is my intuition speaking so take it as you will, but can we not see an actual news piece on someone busted for pedophila who was active in the discussions? Isn't that always how it comes to be?
1 Mecanatron 2017-12-20
You could be right, there could very well have been pedos involved in the discussion.
You or I could literally be pedos by the laws of chance.
As to your theory of pedos doing all the pizzgate posting, i have to think you're either on the wind up or being seriously over-dramatic, sorry.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Hm I will take that I am being over dramatic, I did make this post haha
1 bradok 2017-12-20
Heh...I've seen this ridiculous talking point pop up a lot recently. Pgate isn't the cover for pedophiles, it is the pedophiles. And it spiraled into Pedogate, which is far broader in its scope and implications. What you are saying will, either intentionally or not, eventually smother any and all discussion of Pgate, by making it so that if we accept the reality that our politicians and celebrities are degenerate pieces of shit who abuse children, suddenly we're the pedophiles.
Here's some evidence to show you our politicians are definitely involved in this shit:
Conspiracy of Silence- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBSIDQt5Dwc
Dutroux Affair- https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/
Dennis Hastert- I need say no more than this- http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/us/dennis-hastert-restrictions-children/index.html
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I don't want to polorize anyone because you are correct, there are pedophiles in our government.
And I will point out that yesterday I was able to discredit a post on here about a huge pedobust that actually turned out to be Russian propaganda from 2014...
But I guess here is a new question, are they directly connected with pizzagate? Or do they act alone?
I guess I just see that the pizzagate thing as a gateway to pedophilia.
Showing people how pedophiles operate is like that one time the MSM was showing people how terrorist make pipe bombs. Sometimes too much exposure is just that, too much and it actually reproduces the problem in a way no one can predict.
Also I is impossible to find a single victim of the actual pizzagate scandal anywhere, how can there be evidence of a crime without a victim? What's the point of all this unless it's actually what I see it as, reproducing and normalizing pedophila
1 bradok 2017-12-20
Exposing people to Pgate won't make them Pedophiles...that's not how this works. Pedophilia is a mental predisposition, it doesn't just "happen", one is born with the condition and lives with it their entire life.
Pgate was always based on the emails, the instagram photos, the bands and their art at CPP. If you get to the root of it you understand why there are no victims to come forward...you don't survive this. You are raped, tortured, and murdered, all in the name of ritual magick. Pgate isn't the normalization of Pedophilia, it is the thread that leads to the unraveling of our entire Elites infatuation with it.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I will accept that there would be no visible victims in the scenario you have illustrated
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I disagree though in the notion of pedophilia being a born trait and I challenge you on that.
Our society is quit to discredit things that are not socially accepted as born traits.
If it was a born trait why has the gene not been identified and eliminated?
1 bradok 2017-12-20
You responded to yourself there friend.
It is a mental disorder. You aren't challening me, you are literally challenging the APA and Modern Psychology- here's a few links-
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-pedophilia#1
https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/pedophilia
And here's the actual APA DSMV definition- https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/pedophilic-disorder-dsm--5-302.2-(f65.4)
It's a mental disorder.
But it is also quick to discredit the horrific abuse of children by adults who should know better and control their feelings. It's not something that should be protected- it is something that should be carefully rooted out and watched.
Because we aren't nearly as far into understanding our genes like that. Just last week they finally identified some of the genes associated with homosexuality- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/12/07/genes-linked-homosexuality-discovered-scientists/
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I want to ask you, why is it that you so free accept psychology as truth but can be so skeptical about many other pillars of our society. I mean this honestly and would be interested to know your opinion on psychology
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I want to ask you, why is it that you so free accept psychology as truth but can be so skeptical about many other pillars of our society. I mean this honestly and would be interested to know your opinion on psychology
1 bradok 2017-12-20
Psychology has its issues but there are some things it gets right- Schizophrenia is a mental issue, depression is a mental issue, pedophilia is a mental issue. Pedophiles are literally people stuck in their own puberty/prepubescence who are attracted to that age group. There's nothing controversial there at all.
Where psychology goes wrong is in the multitude of approved studies and "science" with results that can not be replicated. Nothing I stated above is a part of that though.
1 bradok 2017-12-20
I tend to think of it from the Politicians/Elites pov...a living victim is a loose end. You can get away with this all day, for generations, as long as you make sure they're eliminated once their usefulness is gone. The doc I linked about the Franklin Scandal- Conspiracy of Silence- explains a lot of this at the end, like how they physically intimidated Paul Bonnaci into not testifying, and how the FBI forced him to recant his testimony and ensnare the other victim- Alicia Owens- who upon refusing to recant spent 25 fucking years in jail. And this was in the 80's! They're more careful now, they don't leave loose ends lying about anymore...I highly recommend you take an hour of your time and watch it. Conspiracy of Silence will show you how Pgate can be so real.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Well, perhaps it was retracted so that people who commit crimes don't see murdering their victims as the only option. That's kind of a scary thought, all crime turning to murder (yes this is a dramatic thought but I hope you see what I am getting at)
1 bradok 2017-12-20
When you are talking about high level abuse, there really isn't another option. Bonnaci then came forward and admitted that the FBI strong armed him, while Alicia Owens never recanted her testimony and served her whole fucking sentence, then when Bonnaci was supposed to show up in court to set the record straight, he disappeared and hasn't been seen again.
Shit is far more fucked than you realize, my friend.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
That you for letting me know that "shit is far more fucked up that I realize" lol.
I respect you and what you have said but I do not appreciate that attempt to make me seem any less than you. It's not fair and makes me question your intent
1 bradok 2017-12-20
I didn't make you "seem any less than me". I made an observation based on our discussion. You are skeptical of Pgate and its aims, as well as the systematized abuse perpetrated by our Politicians. It's a hard pill to swallow but the world definitely gets darker when one does. I'm just having a friendly conversation, not belittling you.
I mean, you have my entire post and submission history to dig through if you want to question my intent. I'm here in good faith and always have been.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Yeah, I see now you may have a lot of information at your disposal but you express very little emotional maturity, I simply asked that you not belittle me and you are now defending yourself and I hope you know I see right through this and it makes what you say seem less credible.
Perhaps you should take a humble pill my friend.
1 bradok 2017-12-20
Ok?
Lol I never belittled you, I have been very kind and polite in this discussion. You are the one trying to turn this into something it is not, accusing me of being immature and attacking you, when I have done no such thing. Concerning my credibility, my posts and comments speak for themselves, regardless of what you have to say.
Considering I've done no wrong to you, I find this kinda funny.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I want to get through to you on this and please allow me:
I told you I felt belittled by your original statement, and you chose to have a referndum on my -feelings-
You continue to defend yourself, I typed up a huge thing at this point and the deleted it because it not worth trying to get through to you
1 bradok 2017-12-20
No, I explained that I wasn't belittling you, and I defended myself when you accused me of it, when you said you distrusted my motives, and when you said I lack emotional maturity. I never attacked you, you are the one attacking me.
Ok lol. I don't think this conversation is going anywhere else at this point anyways.
1 ApocalypseFatigue 2017-12-20
Careful talking sense in here son
1 kittypryde123 2017-12-20
Im sure it’s attracts pedophiles. It’s reaction formation/projection, the shadow self, etc.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
So you blame the people pointing out the heinous crime for committing the crime so the real criminals face no heat. Switching focus is a tactic used to do this. I stopped posting pizzagte stuff to facebook because of this. This tactic is effectively used to silence people since no one wants to even consider they'd do the same fucked up shit much less be publicly accused of harboring those feeling internally.
And now that John Podesta is being trotted out to be rebranded as an Alien ufo guru or something, these types of posts are becoming more prevalent. It makes me wonder just how dumb they think most people are. You see the problem with Pizzagate isn't just that he may be molesting children, its that they may also be participating in cannibalism to ingest Adrenochrome, and when you start to knock on the door that is Pizzagate you realize that not just this conspiracy, but all of them run together to cover up for a lie that began long ago, much longer than we have publicly available written history for.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
To be honest I knew about Podesta's interest in UFOs long before pizzagate.
The people who don't like this pizzagate stuff tend to be actual parents of children, maybe it makes no sense but maybe the intuition of a parent means something?
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
They don't like Pizzagate because it forces them to confront the very thing I said, a long with the fear that their children aren't safe. Ignorance is bliss.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Can I ask where their victims come from? Are the parents involved or is this a missing children kind of thing?
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611
It is believed that the majority of the victims are trafficked during chaotic events. Haiti is the most visible incident.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Second source is national parks since they are not required to maintain missing person's information.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Okay so this is maybe we're the Clinton foundation is involved as they played a large roll in the relief efforts
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
There was a person named Laura Silsby that directly ties Hillary to this. She was accused of attempting to traffic 30 children with her. She was convicted, changed her name and now runs the center for alerts that deal with missing children. The Clinton foundation is the center where the money was exchanged for the people.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
If I ask for a source will that offend you?
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-25/clinton-silsby-trafficking-scandal-and-how-media-attempted-ignorecover-it
No, the initial link I posted should be read though. Since it answers all of this.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
https://steemit.com/silsby/@psychanaut/laura-silsby-child-trafficking-in-haiti-with-ties-to-clinton-is-now-laura-galyer-working-at-alertsense-amber-alerts
This as well
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611/7268872
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
Silsby is not directly tied to Hillary in any way... there is no evidence that they have ever met or even communicated.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Now this is a gem. There's no evidence or reason to suspect anything except maybe this:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
You'll note that this is not a communication between Hillary and Silsby.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Ok, you win. No reason to suspect that Hilary has any connection to someone she essentially propelled forward. If you're ok with that explanation why are you here? I am not. Actually kind of regret replying to you here. I know where you're going with this. Arguing things down to the finite details is your game, unfortunately when you do this, you also miss the bigger picture. There is no real reason to try and show someone what some of us see happening that operates this way. You do understand this don't you? You will find all the holes you want in this theory like any other. So you sir, get a cupcake today for your victory here.
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
You have yet to actually bring forward any evidence that this is the case.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
I've provided plenty, the fact that you don't see that just refers back to my original post. You can be right here, I stand to lose nothing from it. If its your opinion that there has been no suspicious activity, that there is no reason to at least look in to the events that took place, how they did and why they did I have to ask again what are you doing here exactly? I don't need to change your mind about this, it isn't a task any person should take upon when meeting someone they disagree with.
Just like you not agreeing with me doesn't change the fact that I do believe there's reason to be suspicious and look further in to this matter.
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
So far, none of the evidence you have provided to support your claims actually does. But please, continue to look into it... you might find something.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
How condescending it must be nice to spend your free time refuting things you don't have any particular reason to go after :).
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
James Allen
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/world/americas/10prisoners.html
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
And... did she personally get involved in the case? It doesn't seem like it. If Hillary was already in business with and protecting Silsby, why would her lawyer need to write to Hillary to ask for assistance?
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/King.pdf
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
Have you even read that document? I have... cite the specific information that you believe supports your claim.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Hahaha its like you're a professional at dragging people in to these discussions. Pass bro you are 100%$ right.
Page 2 btw.
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
"Here, I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine which part of this 46 page document supports my claims about Hillary Clinton."
Spoiler, the document does not mention Hillary Clinton.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Her name ins't in it. Cleared of all suspicions. Queue sunset and happy ending. There you go little one, your fears have been quelled.
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
Holy shit... do you think that "President Clinton" refers to... Hillary Clinton?
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Her name isn't in it directly. She has no involvement. I seriously think you should go apply to work at your local police departments detective program. I think we'd have much fewer crimes left outstanding if we just had more people like you carefully looking at things. You've really shown me the light here.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794247777756860417?lang=en
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Hi friend, I read a lot of what you have posted though not all of it but it was all very interesting.
To be honest, I think you maybe a victim of gaslighting. Usually seen in abusive relationships it’s a form of control that rewrites what a person sees as the truth. I found myself, as I usually do, captivated and convinced through looking into this and was honestly just like wow how did I not see all of this, but I saw a random pic of the “murder room” at comet pizza and realized that this was all an elaborate control mechanism.
I encourage everyone to look up gaslighting, look at the signs and symptoms.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
hahaha you've been doing this very same thing over and over in this sub with this subject. If this is the conclusion you came to before you even read what I posted (which its clear you already held this position) why waste time disputing something you have no interest in?
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Yes my friend, but you under estimate to power of the fake garbage “New” you promote here, new evidence makes your brain think that maybe you missed something and all of a sudden this bull shit pizza gate has you question if Hillary Clinton is sucking on a baby’s neck before bed.
Live for yourself, when I made this post it’s cause I was concerned about how frequently I was seeing this garbage reproduced In what should be a very interesting sub, and potentially would turn to the r/pedo hide out if you are careful
Stay woke my friend
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
I'm sure. Great mission. I bow before your benevolence and understanding. Best of luck.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Also, I will tell you that I first lurked around this Reddit a few months ago and really actually believed this pizzagate thing, like actually showed people in my life in hopes that my see it, but eventually I read something about this comet pizza owner and his now failing business and was like damn... his restaurant got shot up and all the tramatic things that happen as a result of such inflamitory shit. Idk how to say but all I know is that it is dangerous what is going out in our world. It's so easy to just see something and believe it and that's all that's happening except in this case it's actually to the point of mind control. Believeing pizzagate unleashes some scary things inside of a person, question the MSM has always been a thing but ignoring everything they say as false is very dangerous
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
No you never believed this. Are you really going to try to claim this now that I pointed out what you've been doing? Good luck with life.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I agree, right before pulling myself out from almost believing some of these articles I found that they are literally gaslighting the article from the beginning. You read an initial lie that could almost be true and are left with a feeling on uneasiness while you continue to read. They take true things and literally connect them to total bullshit and at the end cite a source that only proves part of the entire statement.
It’s very interesting, as gaslighting is seen in controlling relationship and can literally convince a person to stay with their abusive partner even though it’s not good for them... reminds of some of these pizzagate people, seems it has control over them.
Eventually the victim of gaslighting can be left feeling like literally the world is out of control except for the one thing the believe is true typical their abusive controlling partner or in this case pizzagate.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Area directly outside of dc has much higher than average missing person's rates.
https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@v4vapid/virginia-home-of-the-ncmec-and-highest-rate-of-missing-children-in-the-us
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I live outside of D.C. And say that MS-13 although involved in drugs actually operates more on sex traffic young Latin American girls which lead to a lot of dissapearences
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
MS-13 is also believed to be operating under CIA direction. So it does not surprised me that they are heavily involved in this.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
So you blame the people pointing out the heinous crime for committing the crime so the real criminals face no heat. Switching focus is a tactic used to do this. I stopped posting pizzagte stuff to facebook because of this. This tactic is effectively used to silence people since no one wants to even consider they'd do the same fucked up shit much less be publicly accused of harboring those feeling internally.
And now that John Podesta is being trotted out to be rebranded as an Alien ufo guru or something, these types of posts are becoming more prevalent. It makes me wonder just how dumb they think most people are. You see the problem with Pizzagate isn't just that he may be molesting children, its that they may also be participating in cannibalism to ingest Adrenochrome, and when you start to knock on the door that is Pizzagate you realize that not just this conspiracy, but all of them run together to cover up for a lie that began long ago, much longer than we have publicly available written history for.
1 MusicMagi 2017-12-20
Right and by that standard, people who are curious about terrorist attacks are terrorists
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Curiousity is a weird word to use lol
Concern may be more appropriate in this context
I am concerned about terrorism, I am not curious how that made the pipebomb.
I am concerned about pedophila, I am not curious about their pizza launguage.
Dramatic point: never saw anyone teaching Arabic as a way to stop terrorism and honestly most would see that as a breeding ground for more terrorist regardless of intent
1 MusicMagi 2017-12-20
It's just rhetoric. You get my point. Funny your post got removed, though
1 BadgerGecko 2017-12-20
No
1 Mecanatron 2017-12-20
No, im 'R'
My clearance is a level above 'Q' but nowhere near that of 'S'.
Who ate the sandwiches? What filling was in the sandwiches? What is chicken? What is bacon? Where is the mustard?
Stay black, stay proud.
1 Mecanatron 2017-12-20
You could be right, there could very well have been pedos involved in the discussion.
You or I could literally be pedos by the laws of chance.
As to your theory of pedos doing all the pizzgate posting, i have to think you're either on the wind up or being seriously over-dramatic, sorry.
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
I don't want to polorize anyone because you are correct, there are pedophiles in our government.
And I will point out that yesterday I was able to discredit a post on here about a huge pedobust that actually turned out to be Russian propaganda from 2014...
But I guess here is a new question, are they directly connected with pizzagate? Or do they act alone?
I guess I just see that the pizzagate thing as a gateway to pedophilia.
Showing people how pedophiles operate is like that one time the MSM was showing people how terrorist make pipe bombs. Sometimes too much exposure is just that, too much and it actually reproduces the problem in a way no one can predict.
Also I is impossible to find a single victim of the actual pizzagate scandal anywhere, how can there be evidence of a crime without a victim? What's the point of all this unless it's actually what I see it as, reproducing and normalizing pedophila
1 ApocalypseFatigue 2017-12-20
Careful talking sense in here son
1 69-Shitposter-420 2017-12-20
then where do the pedos hide their pizza
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Didn't that guy shoot at the floor of comet pizza trying to get the kids out? Turns out there is no basement lol
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
"Here, I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine which part of this 46 page document supports my claims about Hillary Clinton."
Spoiler, the document does not mention Hillary Clinton.
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
Her name ins't in it. Cleared of all suspicions. Queue sunset and happy ending. There you go little one, your fears have been quelled.
1 NothingLasts 2017-12-20
Holy shit... do you think that "President Clinton" refers to... Hillary Clinton?
1 7Seraphim7 2017-12-20
hahaha you've been doing this very same thing over and over in this sub with this subject. If this is the conclusion you came to before you even read what I posted (which its clear you already held this position) why waste time disputing something you have no interest in?
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Yes my friend, but you under estimate to power of the fake garbage “New” you promote here, new evidence makes your brain think that maybe you missed something and all of a sudden this bull shit pizza gate has you question if Hillary Clinton is sucking on a baby’s neck before bed.
Live for yourself, when I made this post it’s cause I was concerned about how frequently I was seeing this garbage reproduced In what should be a very interesting sub, and potentially would turn to the r/pedo hide out if you are careful
Stay woke my friend
1 Constitutionofpalm 2017-12-20
Also, I will tell you that I first lurked around this Reddit a few months ago and really actually believed this pizzagate thing, like actually showed people in my life in hopes that my see it, but eventually I read something about this comet pizza owner and his now failing business and was like damn... his restaurant got shot up and all the tramatic things that happen as a result of such inflamitory shit. Idk how to say but all I know is that it is dangerous what is going out in our world. It's so easy to just see something and believe it and that's all that's happening except in this case it's actually to the point of mind control. Believeing pizzagate unleashes some scary things inside of a person, question the MSM has always been a thing but ignoring everything they say as false is very dangerous