Yeah new has sucked for past couple days way fewer posts than normal and not many about things I would expect assange, data dump, q etc.

Maybe a deeper conspiracy but I’m inclined to chalk it up to people spending quality time with their friends and families over the holidays.

Shills probably got a vacation also.

It’s almost like asking for a source gets rid of most of this stuff

Maybe cause it’s fake

The board needs to adapt. It will - just give it a few days.

If you're dissatsified with the lack of a certain topic - the Submission Button is clearly marked.

Your right about that

oh is that why the new submission is virtually empty?

Link spammers neutered.

I'm super happy with the changes, I think they've already born positive fruit and I expect much more to come. I hope you will consider staying on; this isn't a fight that will be 'won.' Fostering thoughtful discussion between disparate minds is just too threatening; the more effectively you et al do that the more aggressive the counterplay will be.

Sorry I'm rambling, but thanks!

As far as I can see that post was approved of by us and everything else is above my paygrade?

Why not ask the admins when you know myself (and the team) didn't remove it?

Do you think they care about you? They sure as shit don't care about me.

"Approved of by us"? I thought you resigned?

Thought wrong, comrade.

You didnt make a post saying you was getting harassed and stalked so you was going to step down? That didn't happen?

I said I would step down when the job was done.

Didn't I?

Or did you read I TMOR made me quit because that's what they're headline said?

You seem to have an attitude toward me for some reason. As far as I know we have never talked to each other before. So idk why you would be that way toward me. But whatever.

I don't remember reading you would step down when the job (whatever that job is) was done. That doesn't mean you didn't say that. And I really don't know shit about TMOR.

You seem to have an attitude toward me for some reason. As far as I know we have never talked to each other before. So idk why you would be that way toward me. But whatever.

Text is tough to interpret sometimes. I'd file that under signals being crossed more than anything.

I don't remember reading you would step down when the job (whatever that job is) was done.

You should reread the post.

That doesn't mean you didn't say that. And I really don't know shit about TMOR.

Perhaps.

Ok. Thanks for responding.

Mods are compromised. Reddits trying to turn this sub for the 2018 midterms and beyond to 2020. Think about it. This sub and a few others were largely responsible for Clinton losing the 2016 election. Non stop discussion about PG, Clinton and DNC corruption. Reddit cant have that again, especially with its new corporate overlords and shareholders.

Reddit going full MSM PR mode. They just cant outright do it blantantly so they do it quietly like they did to politics, news, worldnews etc. The highly brigaded threads about Wikileaks etc in the past couple months were test runs.

Here shortly the sub will flip. It will be 90% shareblue over running the organic users with their leftist globalist narrative. It will be just like all the other subs.. (politics, topminds, ama,news,worldnews, technology etc).

Mark my words, its coming. Reddit is the new Dig and Leftist propaganda outlet.

Look at the mods and thenhuge shift the past few months. Thats the new conspiracy no ones talking about.

Homie if you think a couple hundred paranoid neckbeards like us made the election swing, you should do some more research about the election.

Try a couple thousand. Who do you think circulated the emails via social media? It became so widespread the media could no longer ignore it. Trumpsters litterally meme'd Trump into the Presidency. Otherwise, accirding to CNN. Its illlegal to read wikileaks related news from anyone but them. Haha.

Mods are compromised. Reddits trying to turn this sub for the 2018 midterms and beyond to 2020. Think about it. This sub and a few others were largely responsible for Clinton losing the 2016 election. Non stop discussion about PG, Clinton and DNC corruption. Reddit cant have that again, especially with its new corporate overlords and shareholders.

You are right.. /r/conspiracy got compromised - by users like you which are not really willing to talk about conspiracies but are pushing a political agenda. Another 1 year old account. Another account which openly admits to shilling...

what do you think that means? if they don't approve it doesn't get views. submit all you want it goes into the trash bin.

you know guilty until proven innocent.

what do you think that means? if they don't approve it doesn't get views.

It gets approved if there's a SS.

submit all you want it goes into the trash bin.

False.

you know guilty until proven innocent.

False. Unless you're talking about hashtagmetoo...

Why did you post a "test" post a bit ago then delete it?

Post what you want, put a submission statement and participate.

I'm glad all the drive by spam has dried up significantly and OPs are forced to participate somewhat. This is a discission sub, not a headline kneejerk reaction sub.

If it is a self post you don't need a submission statement. If it is a link post, just put a submission statement as a comment like this:

Submission Statement: I think this link is part of xxxxxx conspiracy because xxxxxx.

That's too much work for our dear OP

Was this the post that OP made, by chance? I want to see where else this video pops up, if so, and keep an eye out for more "test" posts.

I suspect there will be new some bottish activity between the link spammers trying to get around the new rule and with the advent of the new cbts_stream sub, that is absolutely riddled with new larpy-ass accounts from the chans and accounts that had been wiped/hibernating.

Yes! Which is funny cus he had posts before that one.

Also, i saw that sub too. I'm like 100% sure they organize via their discord chatroom.

Well if we are to believe their posts, it is almost entirely populated by sexagenerian veterans who have been lurking on 8chan, but have never been to reddit before and also have been waiting for decades for this opportunity to redpill normies with memes.

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Holy fuck, they are literally playing make believe. I'm kinda creeped out and worried at the same time.

That looks like tge perfect sub to radicalize and weaponize a easily manipulated individual.

Yeah, it seems like a terrible mixture of "shill", troll, and genuine. It's ultimate poe's law and also kind of reminds me of the comments on oldpeoplefacebook. Their growth

I've been tagging users and almost every user was created on the 19th and 20th (or after), when the sub was made and promoted on 8chan and on twitter.

There seem to be a few types of older accounts:
Ones that have shitloads of karma they built up on the_donald and/or conspiracy.
Ones that are old but have very little karma and a wiped or empty post history that woke up to post on that sub.
Ones that appear to be old gaming accounts that were purchased for use on the_donald, went silent for months before reemerging for this sub.

Def an interesting situation. I'll def keep an eye on it.

I actually have a thread going about a pedophile/ritual abuse case on the front page right now. If you put p!zzagate in the title, you'll get shilled and downvoted though.

It's probably organic. I downvote anything with pizzagate in the title. Unless it's something like 'pizzagaters fuck goats,' in which case, full speed ahead. But I upvoted your McMartin preschool post, because while I don't subscribe to those ideas, it was a decent link with a thoughtful submission statement. And I may be many things, but original isn't one of them. So there's a whole pile of alternate me out there same as there's a whole pile of you. Frightening and comforting to contemplate all at once.

Thanks for the upvote!

Yeah, I stay away from the pizzagate stuff now. I think it was pushed the way it was for a reason, with a lot of people coming up with crazy theories related to it on purpose, because now anytime child pedophile networks are brought up, some people automatically link it mentally. "Yeah, just like pizzagate. Where Hillary ran a pedophile network from a pizza place. Sure."

Now there may very well be something fucky there somewhere, but it got turned into a psy op in a way IMO.

Yep, this is what I've been saying from the start. It was a smearjob, the goal was always to make anyone who talks about elite sexual abuse of children sounds crazy.

r/pedogate.

I want to know why have a 20 days old account saying it is time to move on from this sub like you have vested time here. Those of us who have been around for a long time (since 2011) have seen this sub go through many changes and many different coordinated attacks. Your negativity does not help the situation. You say you come for Vatican,an pedogate an such, then make this post which will turn away new comers. How does that help? I may not agree with how the mods have handled things over the past year, but this submission statement thing appears to be good. Now "new" is not clogged up with horseshit stories because redditors from outside the community think it is funny. Mocker is the greatest form of flattery but it is still annoying.

Anything is possible in a conspiracy. An a lot of things have been possible in this conspiracy forum. It is an until we win, always will be an information war. An the large number of shitposts are the problem.

If you are really concerned with what is being deleted I believe the site is called ceddit an it allows you to see what has been deleted. As far as the submission statements i dig em, if you share a conspiracy you should have some of your own thoughts on to why you believe it or desire to share it.

There are plenty of nefarious agendas all over reddit, we are no different. Some of the regulators here are on our side and some are not. Infiltrating "subversive" groups has not and will not stop. It is a double edge sword i guess but you have to trust someone in a world where we trust very few. So as of right now I am trusting the mods have this subs best interests in mind.

An remember, the shills will brigade report shit to their Admin handlers who will come in and remove it without the mods knowledge.

"Posts are not the problem, anything is possible in CONSPIRACY..."

But it's not always obvious how things fit into the conspiracy world and sometimes it doesn't fit at all, it's just spam and political bullshit and gossip, either way a declaration statement helps.

"...no matter how manic the subject matter sounds."

Whose shit has been taken down simply for being manic? I've seen several manic posts get put up recently and stay up because they legitimately related to conspiracy. They're trying to cut back on spam and bullshit and so far, the consensus seems to be that it's working.

"So with the new submission declaration, how do I know that the post will go through..."

How did you know it would go through before?

without someone with nefarious agenda not submit the post, no?"

The fuck are you talking about?

"WHO considers it spam and WHO considers it political bullshit?"

From what I understand, it's considered spam when a submission comes in via spambot, which would hopefully be evident by said spambot not being able to provide a submission statement. It's political bullshit if the Op submits a mission statement that can't justify it being put up under the banner of conspiracy.

"You trust reddit, a corporate company? Ok ..."

I don't "trust" reddit, or the mods, or the users, or spambots, or trolls, any more than I have too in order to enjoy browsing the site and engaging in conversation.

Can you explain how it's any easier for mods to cut legit submissions than before there was the new rule? If you can, cool, I'd honestly like to hear about it. Take your time though, I probably won't even check for a response to this question til morning, honestly it's just not that big a fucking deal commensurate to the time I've spent in this room. Otherwise, relax, go run a couple different searches, read some of the submissions and maybe reassess the conclusion you came to earlier.

Yeah, reddit got co-opted, so they say, and I believe those who know better than I and I kinda see it myself. Oh well, that's not news, not a surprise and yet it's still not totally useless to me personally...not yet anyway. Ymmv.

I don't think you even get what you're saying... he directly addressed each of your points.

They do get what you're saying, but what you're saying is rubbish. The new changes simply require more effort to be put into posts. The mods are just trying out the new system. I am sure we will see plenty of "the mods are censoring my posts about xyz " if that starts happening. However, you're acting as if that has already happened.

Yeah, and they were before.

It's kind of ironic, that your account is only 26 days old...

That is a fair statement. I am not calling for anyone to leave this sub because I am unhappy with the content. I do believe it was you who once said if we leave they win.

I do believe it was you who once said if we leave they win.

Indeed, and I still stand by it (although, after all these years, I have some jaded opinions about a few things here).

Anyways, carry on!

right on.

Who are you?

Who, says you? Well...

What's this?? The word 'ironic' being used in proper context on Reddit??

This is a REAL conspiracy!!

why wouldn't you want the people of this sub to control what gets a chance to be upvoted? that's the beauty of reddit. Are you Hitler? I thought he died.

That is the goal of the new changes, to give the people of this sub more of a chance to upvote actual posts by fellow resistors rather than having the front page littered with low effort cross posts from T_D and Politics.

LMAO...really hitler??? fucking really? jesus goddamn cunt fucking christ...

5 year account.

415 karma.

There are 2 options:

You are an asshole with dumb comments

Or

You are a chill.

There is always V o a t . co if you want Free speech. watch out those words may upset you. So you can always stay in your Safe S P A C E and hope it gets better.

Make good topics about the topics you wanna discuss... sitting here bitching and moaning about it ain't gonna do you any good.

I legit can't find any posts that should have stayed but were removed, I think the rule is pretty good tbh. We just saw a thread about the Vatican get a lot of attention, the admins suspended the user for some reason but that's not the fault of this subs mods. Heck there's even a follow up thread asking what happened to that user that's gaining a decent amount of attention.

Oligarchs don't like information about them posted. If it's anti dem it's been bought.

Assange deletion is the canary dying.

Be alarmed. Very very alarmed.

fud

The submission statements are like the gates at the amusement park, "You have to be less retarded than this much to post here."

Who the fuck gets to decide if I'm too retarded to ride the rollercoaster?

The very simple rules: when you post a link, say why it belongs here.

I probably should've included /s in my original post. I don't disagree with the submission statements, but I can also understand where OP is coming from here.

Personally, I like the new rule. The reduction in spam and shit posts alone are amazing.

Can someone explain what exactly a submission declaration is?

I think you just have write why you think link is worth reading and what your stance is on the subject. It's to stop people who just post link after link on subjects without actually helping the discussion

Upvoted to expose nonsense of your (OP) post.

Go ahead, "sparkey" - move on

There have always been a lot of shills here but more than ever after Trump got elected.

Join us /r/conspiracyundone.

Mine is pretty non-partisan. You will like it.

Yay : )

Bullshit. Been here for years. Only things new to me are you and the relatively stable front page since the implementation of the posting rule.

There's more posts rn about the Vatican than I've ever seen in my several years here

r/conspiracy has always been a bit of a shit show.

The chaos used to be caused, in part, by the mod philosophy that anything goes as long as it didn't doxx or break any laws. Very anti-censorship.

Then reddit became a safe space and simultaneously this sub got nice set of rules in the side bar. And shitty mods that ban the word shill like some sort of Orwellian overlords. And now every submission has to be approved by them.

Fuck them, and fuck all these rules.

I actually thought the quality of the sub went up yesterday.

Dude, mods are asking for ppl to declare why there submission should be relevant under the conspiracy umbrella. It reduces spam. It also gives Op a chance to justify why a submission should be here and others a chance to read it, so it can't be taken down as easily, as long as it's legit. If I'm not mistaken, before the new rule went into effect, mods could take stuff down just by saying it didn't relate in any meaningful way to conspiracies. You got your shit backwards.

I'm a good mod.

I suspect you just like starting shit and love to watch what sticks.

if he likes axolotl it means he's just another trumper upset that pro trump stuff isn't as effective as before. his username confirms that

Maybe these things is go away because people with actual intelligence are now reading this thread.

yea, the mods now control us. completely.

Seems like r/conspiracy is undergoing a conspiracy of its own

You've got to be joking. Half the /r/conspiracy front page has been this same shit for the last year.

and currently the top post is t_d anti lena dunham shit

Didn't you get the memo? Pedos are out and UFOs are in.

I’m noticing that too OP, and it’s really pissing me off. This sub needs a clean out.

I knew this post was bullshit when I see a post titled "Vatican secrets" literally right above yours. You don't like the new rule, just say it rather than making shit up

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7mkps2/from_ubering_children_to_an_adult_pool_party_to/

Now please, just stop

What are you talking about? Pedo stuff is always on the front page of this sub.

Because reddit isn’t a place of free speech and open sharing of ideas.

Reddit is just another sold out corporation that caters to the highest bidder to push agendas and influence the masses.

Of course it is controlled and manipulated. You’d be naive to assume it’s a place of free thought and openness.

Then why are you still here

Purely for entertainment and something to do while I poop.

Since pedogate and vatican and kiddie abuse is why I am here, and most of us are, this is a conspiracy fact. So it does not make sense that posts are removed or downvoted like fuck.

You really think so, do you? From my perspecive this subreddit got swamped with new members which all pushed a few selective stories. There was a /r/conspiracy before the_donald members started massposting and pushign their agenda and a time after.

And given that most of the pedogate sentiment uses a rethoric already used in other instances and don't care for the actual problem (reducing the instances where pedophila results in molestation and rape) but only for a vague liberal conspiracy I daresay that you've been played...

Lol, this is funny

That coming from a 20 day old account with a explicit political bias in the username.. yeah, that is funny.

a bigger problem is not allowing new accounts to post.

new accounts should be recommended in a conspiracy sub.

The change began in early 2016. This place hasn’t been the same since pedogate in my opinion.

the shills are rampant, been that way since 2016. my own observation is that in a very interesting way there is a proxy war going on here, with the shariablue paid trolls doing their thing vs the Trump supporters on the other.

Most of us are not here for pedogate. Most of us joined when this subs content was how alien farts were the actual cause of weather, back when conspiracy was filled with shit about mkultra, 9/11, area 51, and other cool and interesting shit. Vatican abuse isn't a conspiracy theory anymore. Priests are the butt of many jokes, the Vatican's efforts to systemically provide a safe haven to it's members is very well known, and there was an extremely popular and critically acclaimed movie that came out two years ago on the subject called Spotlight that won two Oscars. Pedogate isn't a conspiracy theory anymore. People are damn well aware of the sexual abuse power structure that exists in Hollywood as well as many other areas of several different industries. It's a tired subject, with legitimate cases already being covered by the MSM. If you're conflating that with Pizzagate, then the fact of the matter is that the community is very divisive on Pizzagate because it's a shitty conspiracy built entirely from poorly glued together speculation. Sure, anything is possible in conspiracy, but people harassed people in real life over a very fanatical and implausible theory that actually had no real evidence whatsoever. The shit gets downvoted because it's put this sub at a huge risk for being shut down several different times and people who come here for other reasons don't want that.

Oh okay so the 350,000 people here before pedo/pizzagate even existed out of the 550,000 people that are subbed now were just people waiting for the news to drop? Right.

And? Your point? Look at the Reddit metrics? We've gained a little more than 200,000 subs since then, a population that's still a minority on this subreddit and you wanna tell me that 100% of those people subscribed solely because of pgates and other contemporary GOP conspiracy theories? Okay. Don't you have a Ben Shapiro podcast to listen to "only2gendersnot2417?"

Hey, OP, I'd like to discuss your name.

Gender is a distraction or are you saying that I'm a distraction, haha? I don't mean to be one if that's what you mean. 🙂

No. You are the minority

You can watch moderator actions via:

https://ceddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6le48j/_

There is a CONSPIRACY in r/conspiracy to reduce exposure to CERTAIN conspiracies.

/r/ConspiracyRight/ was created when they started this bullshit.

im actually a huge fan of submission declarations. reduces the influence of spammers/bots, makes motivations clearer for those who are trying to tell you how to think. Requiring more effort is a positive step.

requiring more effort for submissions is a good thing

Maybe the best solution is to collectively move to another platform and leave Reddit to fix itself. There are corporate interests involved with Reddit, and it isn't exactly to their financial benefit, nor is it good for business to have disturbing stories about how sick and/or corrupt some powerful people are. It makes it harder to generate revenue from advertising. It seems highly likely (as well as logical) that the aforementioned is what's driving the changes we're all seeing.

Several platforms are in development on darkweb. However, the attack surface has to be reduced across all APIs before they'll be published to the Hidden Wiki. Right now there are too many risks to deploying websites for large amounts of people in the darkweb specifically because the military and intelligence agencies leverage it heavily (and are constantly scraping every last bit they can get at). Implementing a secure social media platform is a huge PITA on darkweb (especially a port of Diaspora). Segmentation and containerization are making it more secure, but it's slow to get it right because of all the details involved. Then there's the security level vs. the user experience (UX). If everything is too complicated, slow, or locked-down; you won't have users. It's a precarious balancing act of priorities.

Am I high? I see Vatican posts here daily. There's a "pedogate" post on the front page right now. Or are you high?

I don't understand your concern OP. You talk about mods deleting the post. However the truth is that mods are capable of deleting the post one way or the other, whether the post has a submission statement or not. So the submission statement is incapable of having any effect on a mod's ability to delete the post. What the submission statement does affect, however, is a mod's ability to judge whether or not a post is garbage. So if there is a mod who is inclined to delete a post as a result of its seemingly low value, the submission statement has the effect of better enabling the mod to make a correct decision. What this means is that, on one hand, the submission statement may be a net positive, but on the other hand, if mods desire to delete posts, the submission statement is simply neutral, since they have the ability to delete posts regardless. So when the worst case scenario is neutral, there really isn't any logic that justifies having an argument or having a problem. Just saying man

There is a massive effort on this sub to get its users to comply with MSM propaganda. Lots of people posting here from spam subs like r/politics.

Those are topics most aren't interested in. I downvote them all if I come across them. If you want to discuss these things in length then create a sub for it so you don't have to whine about it next time.

Submission statements (SS for short) are for the purpose of signalling to factions of shills, so they know how to react.

I've seen this myself now. I am usually stalking around without posting or commenting, but it seems that things are compromised now and these topics are forbidden. To me, this is only a proof that the truth have been revealed and it is too visible/correct to be left out uncensored.

It is a real shame but it happens with every mainstream/trendy/hype mediums/channels we use to communicate. The quality of Reddit is gone long time ago, just as 4chan and many others.

I said I would step down when the job was done.

Didn't I?

Or did you read I TMOR made me quit because that's what they're headline said?

what do you think that means? if they don't approve it doesn't get views.

It gets approved if there's a SS.

submit all you want it goes into the trash bin.

False.

you know guilty until proven innocent.

False. Unless you're talking about hashtagmetoo...

That is the goal of the new changes, to give the people of this sub more of a chance to upvote actual posts by fellow resistors rather than having the front page littered with low effort cross posts from T_D and Politics.

That's too much work for our dear OP

LMAO...really hitler??? fucking really? jesus goddamn cunt fucking christ...