War on masculinity
13 2018-01-04 by RateBotCharambe
Hello guys and girls , today i want to discuss a topic i myself find very troubling and not talked much about. I think there is a major war on masculinity going on at the moment all over the world. Let me list a few things i find disturbing and might be a good point for discussion :
- Certain plastics act as estrogens in human body.
- Soy is added in a lot of food . and has proven estrogen properties.
- Contraception pills in our water supply can change sex of the fish... im pretty sure they can and do influence male sexual development.
- Males are weaker , more femine in younger generations , with less muscle mass and feminised facial features ( strong , sleek jaw , not square or anything , think Angelina Jolie ...)
- Huge ammount of M to F transgenderism , and much much less F to M transgenderism.
- General "merging" of sexes , trying to make males acting femine more acceptable
Im trying to start a discussion , so post your opinions below. This is my first post here , tho i am avid reader.
74 comments
3 murphy212 2018-01-04
There is a war of feminity too (contemporary feminism is actually akin to hyperandrogenism).
The collectivists’ dream is for humanity to be uniform, homogeneous, “equal”. Therefore the perfect human for them is androgynous.
1 Gogols_Nose 2018-01-04
Yes! I've been saying, "Feminism is killing femininity," for years now. It's unpopular to say though.
1 Gertrudethecurious 2018-01-04
I think vanity is a big issue. Look at the quantity of make up and posing and pictures posted. It's too focused on face value.
3 elcad 2018-01-04
Close. Note the removal of body hair. It's to make them more child like, not more feminine. The women are also being shamed into removing body hair as well.
1 InterBeard 2018-01-04
They are turning the Frogs Gay!!!
1 MilkyWitness 2018-01-04
This is just a sensationalized meme used to discredit the conspiracy theory community, you know.
https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/07/03/Study-Birth-control-turning-male-fish-into-females/3281499063723/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/as-more-male-bass-switch-sex-a-strange-fish-story-expands/2014/08/03/89799b08-11ad-11e4-8936-26932bcfd6ed_story.html?utm_term=.b05274863a6b
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6436617/ns/nbc_nightly_news_with_brian_williams/t/male-fish-becoming-female/
https://www.dormd.net/prused-chemicals-contributed-increasing-rate-male-infertility/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4046332/
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-disappearing-male/
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-094-you-are-being-sterilized/
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Agreed with Milky here , its a great way to meme a real problem into oblivion
1 Honkadoo 2018-01-04
So who developed that meme? The deep state or Alex Jones?
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2018-01-04
Agreed.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
We are all born from a male and a female. Balance. There are many chickenshit tactics that attempt to influence growth, behavior, and development. I believe that if you can remain balanced within yourself, any attempt to feminize the masculine will only strengthen your masculine. Do not neglect the feminine.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
i had testosterone levels of 300 at age 18 and was put on TRT by my endo... This cant be normal. Many guys i know in my generation dont even have beards, or any hairs , very femine voices etc... its scary
1 DracoDystopia 2018-01-04
rlly. Go to the gym, start working out and get those T levels up, stat. There is no excuse.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
i am and was very active , football and gym 4 times per week , just didnt make any gains. much better now.
1 DracoDystopia 2018-01-04
Hmmm interesting. What did you change then?
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
I had a lot of blood tests done , and the doc determined my production was too low to properly start puberty , so he put me on TRT. No cause found.
1 dr_delancey 2018-01-04
Diet.
1 natasha2827 2018-01-04
agreed
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
Many races do not grow beards. Life is scary. Being a man is about facing your fears. It has nothing to do with testosterone levels or facial hair...
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Gender identity has a lot to do with hormones. Thats a fact.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
Gender identity is assigned at birth. That is a fact.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
yes , but behavior is greatly influenced by sexual hormones , primary estrogen and testosterone
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
You control your behavior.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0018506X A lot of examples on hormones affecting behavior and cognitive processes.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
Just believe in yourself. It is not totally about you but you might be mightier than you realize.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
thats true , but im talking about the establisment trying to push feminisation on male population here , not personal issues.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
You were talking about personal issues.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
true , as example with blood taken to prove a point. Case unknown. I have many friends at 19 years of age who have not yet gone thru puberty in full. Girls dont have this issues , most look 20 at 14...
1 dr_delancey 2018-01-04
Lol your naivety is showing.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
By suggesting that people can control their own behavior? Who is pulling your strings then?
1 dickjokesauce 2018-01-04
gtfo. what is this craziness???!
1 SpenB 2018-01-04
Life uh, finds a way.
1 cullpeppe 2018-01-04
Meanwhile, they are importing foreign men and encouraging them to breed with our women.
1 strawberrycircus 2018-01-04
Nothing women love more than being bred.
1 etherealnoise 2018-01-04
only if its garlic bread
1 LitBastard 2018-01-04
How did you reach the "younger generations are more feminine etc" conclusion?Shit like this takes generations to manifest in a human.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Just compare some old time photos to new generations. Juniors in 50-60s for example and now. Might just be my country tho (europe).
1 LitBastard 2018-01-04
"Feminisation" has more to do with the modern working environment than anything else.Less manual labour,more automisation.Brain is more needed than ever today.But that doesn't mean there is a war on masculinity. Asians for example remain largely unchanged despite ingesting soy for as long as they can remember.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
i just feel that the media and society is trying to push for a more feminized or submissive society , mostly focused on traditionally less submissive sex , males. There exist studies about hormone leves , emotions and cognitive functions . Asian race might be like that BECOUSE of soy ingestion... They are smaller in frame and muscle mass in general.
1 manwithaspawk 2018-01-04
Europe narrows it down so much
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-04
That’s confirmation bias.
Weedy dudes have always and will always exist.
Men were not generally more “MAHSCLED” in this romanticized version of the 50s and 60s you’ve got in your head.
If anything, people are bigger now, both because of the improved health and fitness science... and how many people forgo that entirely and get obese. Especially in America.
1 Mrexreturns 2018-01-04
They want to make the whole generation sterile and incapable of defending itself, not only males.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Agreed , but males were historically the ones fighting , so it makes sense to push for de-masculinization.
1 facelessnature 2018-01-04
It's important to accept your masculine traits as well as your feminine traits. Society has taught that we can only have one or the other, but it is contra to the way we should be experiencing life. We should be free from concern over which traits will dominate how we choose to live. TPTB is using it as a way to control people's actions, buying habits, way of living, etc..
1 Investi_Pizzagate 2018-01-04
Do you let your buddies fuck your ass?
1 facelessnature 2018-01-04
Actually your parents and I form a train. It goes: your dad in front, me, then your mom.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-04
This is why there is a “war” on masculinity.
This “war” is a direct response to this hyper-masculine BS.
1 isitanme 2018-01-04
The idea of toxic masculinity is pushed, while the idea of sacred or divine masculinity is ignored.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Please elaborate on Sacred / Divine masculinity , its first time i hear of such a thing.
3 murphy212 2018-01-04
It is a principle of hermetic thought. Read the Kybalion (pdf). The seventh principle is the principle of gender.
Sacred masculine means the masculine principle embedded in nature. Strength, severity, reason, etc. Symbolized by the sun, osiris, the cross, the jachin column of the temple of solomon, etc.
The enlightened human, whether male or female, strikes the right balance between both principles, masculine and feminine (or, if you want, has both hemispheres of his pre-frontal cortex working in equilibrium). New Age is feminine imbalance; materialism/atheism is masculine imbalance.
Sorry for the extreme summation, am on mobile. Look into hermetic philosophy. Start by watching Mark Passio on Youtube.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Thank you for your explanation !
1 Gogols_Nose 2018-01-04
This interests me but I lack the time for the full pdf. Could you say a bit on their take on feminine qualities?
-1 PrawnLoverBot 2018-01-04
So...bullshit!
1 murphy212 2018-01-04
Sure
1 Fustrated_User 2018-01-04
What's bullshit?
That we are just meat bags floating on some random rock in space?
Or that we are spirits here for one reason or another having a human experience?
1 lotikpotik 2018-01-04
those 2 have nothing on your T levels, the only thing that has had any effect is sedentary lifestyle and overeating
regarding soy, dairy products have more impact on your estrogen than soy, but yeah, keep giving misleading info
1 come_on_sense_man 2018-01-04
Soy protein is shit for muscle building in men. It does have bad effects on t levels. This has been known for a good while in the bodybuilding community. As for the rest I am skeptical.
0 lotikpotik 2018-01-04
show studies, don't give a fuck what a bunch of broscience retards have to say
2 come_on_sense_man 2018-01-04
one
take the time to read the study
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Thats what im talking about , any you can find soy proteins in a bunch of food you would never guess contains it...
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
im sorry if my info is not correct , is just that i noted in a bunch of sources that soy and plastics acts as estrogens in male body and should be avoided , with a bunch of other foods in there
1 lotikpotik 2018-01-04
stop blaming everything else on why you are a pussy bitch
1 Zybbo 2018-01-04
In this modern age you're not allowed to be like man.
Unless you were born female, in that case you'll be heralded and media worshiped.
2 ian____ 2018-01-04
You’re projecting hard.
1 Zybbo 2018-01-04
sure I am
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-04
This is just not true.
1 Zybbo 2018-01-04
sure its not
1 Zybbo 2018-01-04
Another prime example is the so called "toxic masculinity" that received his own episode in Netflix.
That there is a war on men is a fact.
The question is, as always: Why?
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
i think because of control. Males are the ones fighting wars traditionally , and if they suppress masculinity enough they will eventually be in charge of a bunch of meek , weak (physically and mentally) human beings.
1 SoCo_cpp 2018-01-04
We've polluted the whole world, our selves, and all of our food supplies, with plastics, Styrofoam, and other hormone disrupting chemicals.
1 zopwx2 2018-01-04
I think if you believe this war on masc is real, then in order to counter it we should first decide clearly what healthy ideal masculinity should be and look like.
We can honor strong, calm, cool, logical, self assured, self reliant, reasonable, adult masculinity while rejecting aggressive, impulsive, childlike bullying and 'tough guy' bullshit. I believe what started off as an attempt to diminish the latter, has gotten way out of hand and been hijacked by this attempt to erase the gender polarity and androgenize everyone. While disguised as a liberation movement, it is really paving the way for a brave new world, transhumanist, cyborg, future. Where even the body God gave you is just a commodity to be upgraded every few years like an iphone. If they can't deliever us a Gattaca style world, or a ghost in the shell world, they'll continue this Virtual Reality path. You maybe a 40 year old man in meatspace, but you can be a beautiful rainbow unicorn with six arms in corporate controlled cyber reality. (matrix)
As far as the chemical component is concerned, its all connected to the greater problem of carcinogenic chemicals in the food, air, and water. As usual pharmaceutical companies and GMO promoting entities are causing the degradation of our DNA and overall health for the usual reasons.
Tl;dr The usual gang of idiots are trying to subvert and pervert nature in order to turn life itself into their intellectual property.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
you summed it up way nicer than i ever could , i agree completly!
1 weebz123 2018-01-04
Those are interesting points. Although, on a cultural level, I "feel" (I might be seeing things) like the opposite is true, particularly in music, though perhaps that's in response to the factors you listed that people aren't aware of...maybe trying to even things out but they don't know it.
1 Joy_McClure 2018-01-04
Race definitely has to be a factor. White guys differ from us dark folk.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
I agree here very much , i have been accused of being a racist multiple times for simple observatons such as black males have naturally higher T levels and more muscle mass. Wich was studied and studies prove it to some extent.
1 MilkyWitness 2018-01-04
This is just a sensationalized meme used to discredit the conspiracy theory community, you know.
https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/07/03/Study-Birth-control-turning-male-fish-into-females/3281499063723/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/as-more-male-bass-switch-sex-a-strange-fish-story-expands/2014/08/03/89799b08-11ad-11e4-8936-26932bcfd6ed_story.html?utm_term=.b05274863a6b
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6436617/ns/nbc_nightly_news_with_brian_williams/t/male-fish-becoming-female/
https://www.dormd.net/prused-chemicals-contributed-increasing-rate-male-infertility/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4046332/
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-disappearing-male/
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-094-you-are-being-sterilized/
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
i had testosterone levels of 300 at age 18 and was put on TRT by my endo... This cant be normal. Many guys i know in my generation dont even have beards, or any hairs , very femine voices etc... its scary
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-04
By suggesting that people can control their own behavior? Who is pulling your strings then?
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
Agreed , but males were historically the ones fighting , so it makes sense to push for de-masculinization.
1 dickjokesauce 2018-01-04
gtfo. what is this craziness???!
1 facelessnature 2018-01-04
Actually your parents and I form a train. It goes: your dad in front, me, then your mom.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-04
This is why there is a “war” on masculinity.
This “war” is a direct response to this hyper-masculine BS.
1 RateBotCharambe 2018-01-04
you summed it up way nicer than i ever could , i agree completly!