Yeah, I agree. This sub needs to learn to submit and not question anything our president says. Make Israel Great Again!

op is cool.

No.

It’s the biggest conspiracy of my lifetime to go mainstream.

This is a conspiracy sub. Deal with it.

Which conspiracy, that he is in Israel's pocket?

No, that he’s in Russia’s.

Selling military arms to Saudi Arabia whom funded and supported the terrorists on 9/11, bailing out the banks in interest rate schemes, recognizing Jerusalem as the capital, being bailed out of debt by Wilbur Ross from Rothschild Inc's bankruptcy advisor team and certainly much more I haven't learned about yet paint a very different picture. I recommend thinking for yourself.

Edit: one of these claims is not well known so I will source it:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2016/12/08/trump-and-his-commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-a-look-at-25-years-of-connections/#7fe5d8b4f820

I recommend you not assume I don’t think for myself. I would also recommend you not conflate “thinking for oneself” with “agrees with me”. Because they’re not the same thing.

It is plainly obvious that Russia has a majority stake in Trump’s headspace. Israel may well have some influence too. They aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.

By subscribing to the Russia theory it strongly implies that you get your ideas from the media rather than due diligence.

They are in many ways mutually exclusive actually because Russia is supporting Syria and Syria is fighting vs. Saudi Arabian backed terrorist groups.

I don't see any actions of Trump that are pro-Russian where I see many actions that are pro-Israel.

Dismissing it strongly implies that you get your ideas orders from T_D.

That's why you shouldn't make stupid assumptions.

Did you see what I posted? How is any of that pro-Trump or even remotely related to T_D.

He sold weapons to the State who organized and supported the terrorists on 911, making him a traitor, but for reasons wholly unrelated to Russia.

Do you need to associate differing ideas with the lowest common denominator to feel good?

Whoosh.

Insinuating your opponent subscribes to the biggest cesspool on Reddit to discredit them.

Claiming there was something that whooshed on me in your positively pedestrian comment.

You have some low brow conversational tact sir.

That's why you shouldn't make stupid assumptions.

That “implication” comes from your own assumption. Nothing more.

They’re really not mutually exclusive. Everybody wants to have a piece of the president. Doesn’t mean they themselves are cooperating.

Apparently somehow you missed all the pro-Russia things Trump has done. Maybe Israel helped him too. I have no doubt the Saudis did also.

No! Trump needs to be exposed for who he truly is.

Yes a great and effective president that stopped the dismantling of America and rolled back the creation of the world government. Also unemployment is down, wall street is up, and the GDP is rising.

Your talking points are great! I wish they were based on the reality of the situation. It is almost like some things in the world can be going while, while simultaneously having a terrible president. Baffling!

Globalism is a group of ideologies that advocate the concept of globalization. It tends to advocate for such policies as increases in immigration, interventionism, and global governance. Economically, globalism varies between free trade and lowering tariffs to Marxist proletarian internationalism. It is typically viewed as opposite of nationalism, and has become increasingly divisive in politics in many developed countries, such as the United States.--was the wiki on globalism, now has been edited hundreds of times.

Don't take my word for it. They admit to it themselves.

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." —Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." --David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion or Russians!!], whether real or promulgated [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." —Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." --Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." —David Rockefeller's Memoirs (Random House, New York, 2002)

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent. —Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system ,they will rule the future." —U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies

For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support...... "The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power. "The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. —Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law

Stopped the dismantling of America LMFAO

Obama did all those things too. I don't really remember conservatives getting all giddy about it until their guy was handed a good economy.

Don't lie. Obama did none of those things, Obama was handed a shit economy and made it more shit.

This is factually incorrect.

Please take a look at, say, unemployment rates.

Unemployment was so horrible under Obama that they had to stop counting you in the unemployment rates if you were unemployed for more than a couple weeks. So basically they had to manipulate the numbers it was so bad.

It’s kind of like he went and dealt with a terrible recession his first two years in office.

By bailing out the banks and insurance companies.

Sounds like a necessary evil to keep the economy afloat. Short of a revolution you can’t just let those industries die all at once.

Giving $9 trillion of tax payer money to private banks may look good in a Fascist or Communist system but in a Capitalist system it is theft and corruption.

Or a bailout to keep the entire system from collapsing.

It isn’t pretty and I have serious moral objections to it, but I also don’t doubt it was a pragmatic move. Much as we want to tear Wall Street apart, Wall Street makes America as fat and wealthy as it is.

Income inequality is the real evil.

Bail out was done by G.W. in September of 2008.

Was started and carried out under Obama. They are cousins.

Obama was not inaugurated until Jan. 2009.

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/bush-signs-tarp-legislation-oct-3-2008-097742

Yes that was when it was signed,but when was it implimented. Obama could have stopped it if he didn't support it.

It was passed by Congress.

That's a joke right? Obama was handed a completely shattered economy losing 800,000 jobs a month.

Here's the unemployment rate drop under Obama

https://imgur.com/gallery/IP03B

Here's the Dow Jones under Obama

https://imgur.com/gallery/8ZQI0

It's a lot harder to bullshit people when you can easily look things up on the internet.

Unemployment was so bad under Obama that they had to change the way they counted it. If you were unemployed for more than a couple weeks you were no longer counted. This is a well know fact. Why are you ignoring it and protecting Obama?

I'd love a source on this. I'd also love a source that shows Trump changed it so his numbers are somehow more honestly portrayed than Obama's were.

Just google it. This should be well known to you. How can you even participate in these discussion if you are so ignorant on the subjects you are discussing? I know you are anti-Trump 24/7, but come on, do a little research and have a little understanding on what you are talking about.

I have been googling it and haven't found shit. Now go ahead and show me your sources or I can go ahead and assume you're full of shit on this.

You are a moron that can't even use google.

http://news.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/donald-lambro-obama-hides-jobs-failure-by-not-coun/

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/whats-the-real-jobless-rate/

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/02/09/dont-be-fooled-the-obama-unemployment-rate-is-11/&refURL=https://www.google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/

https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-unemployment-3306222

https://qz.com/877432/the-us-unemployment-rate-measure-is-deceptive-and-doesnt-need-to-be/

I asked for two things. Your original claim is that Obama didn't count people after they were unemployed for 2 weeks. Blatant bullshit. None of these sources say that. I also asked you to show me that Trump counts unemployment differently than Obama did. None of these say that either.

Would you like to try again bud?

Your original claim is that Obama didn't count people after they were unemployed for 2 weeks. Blatant bullshit.

Dirty fucking liar. Quote me saying this. I said a "couple" weeks.

I also asked you to show me that Trump counts unemployment differently than Obama did.

I never claimed either way. I was talking about Obama. I'm not your bitch look it up your self.

Yeah in English a couple means 2.

You said Obama changed the way the stats were read. Not true. And Trump uses those same stats.

I know being wrong upsets you, calm down buddy.

wall street is up, and the GDP is rising.

Some of us remember how IMPORTANT it was, during the Obama years, that the Dow Jones and GDP are metrics made for corporations and economists looking at aggregate measurements, not actually all that important for the vast numbers of working Americans.

Productivity and wages have been decoupled for decades now.

The Dow Jones measurement is of 30 companies, and has more to do with the potential dividends their stockholders will get than anything else.

Sure some people will cash out their 401k funds during this high point, but tons of people have no such savings and most people won't be cashing out now.

Boasting about corporate measurements on /r/conspiracy, where people know better, is inane. It works at cross-purposes with your attempt to boost Trump. It just reminds people how little he's ACTUALLY done besides sit back and watch certain numbers that steadily rose under Obama continue to rise.

Interesting how you managed to respond to my comment about the measurements and trends of those measurements, but haven't managed to respond to yellowsnow2's purely pro-Trump comments in this thread...weird!

So, the front page being being filled with pizzagate, anti-clinton stories etc. over the past year is fine even if they have no new developments, but breaking news on the biggest conspiracy theory should be downvoted. Got it.

You aren't allowed to question the President?

Can we also get rid of the anti-semitism as well? I'm tired of that too.

It would be nice if there was a separate conspiracy sub for political stuff. I don't really care about the political stuff but I quite enjoy reading about the slightly weird, zany stuff.

We’re all sick of hearing about him. If he wasn’t president we wouldn’t be hearing anything except when a new season of Apprentice came out.

No, I didn’t say that whatsoever. Of course we’d be inundated with stories of her every day if she was president. That’s how the media works. Of course she’s smart enough to tweet out every idea that comes into her head so they wouldn’t have as much to work with.

no new developments

Literally using talking points from the CIA's JFK coverup "there is no new evidence! Stop listening to conspiracy theories!"

It was recently announced that the Clinton Foundation is under investigation by the FBI. Is that not a new development?

I'm sure you won't respond with any facts and you'll use your vote bots to bury this like you did the OP and all the comments critical of your shitty-and-suspiciously-upvoted comment.

He's the president of the United States. He is one of the most connected and consequential people ON THE PLANET.

His campaign and administration is currently under investigation by a special prosecutor for...conspiracies.

There are various foreign policy and domestic policy decisions he's made and is making that are fertile ground for discussions of...conspiracies.

He's going to have a lot of posts about him.

"LEAVE DONALD ALONE" is not a valid request here, he's the damn president.

Don't be, you know, a snowflake...you can downvote all the posts and comments you like, and I supposed you can even try to recruit a like-minded "brigade" to do the same, but c'mon.

I think you mean “one of the most connected and consensual people on the planet”

Edit- Im not proud of this

I'm just tired of seeing his bullshit posted every fucking day.

So?

Leave and come back in late January 2021?

Until then, he's the president of the United States and any site related to conspiracies is going to have a lot of posts about him if only because of his position and power.

Asking everyone else to assist you in shielding your eyes from Trump posts is not taking personal responsibility nor is it a remotely reasonable request given the person, their position, and the purposes of this sub ("free thinking and discussing issues which have captured the public’s imagination").

Good luck, OP.

I can think of one decently large sub you can check out where nobody is allowed to say anything bad about Trump. You'll love it over there.

You need another timeline. He's President of the United States of America. And he's read and lived the Art of War -- never letting your enemies know what your next move is.

What if they're banned there? Should they keep making new accounts and keep coming back spewing divisive garbage like certain people do here??

Look at all of these banned accounts..

/u/PepperoniSizedNips

/u/LongSaggyBalls

/u/Guess_Who_Bitch

/u/HereWeGoAgainDude

/u/ForRealThisTimePlaya

This really made me chuckle! Awesome.

ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪

And I can think of ~100 other subs where rabid anti-Trumpers like you can post your MSM propaganda and circlejerk.

Follow the hive mind or get ridiculed, lied about, downvoted into oblivion, etc. Russiagate is the only conspiracy you should care about./s Your world must now revolve around Trump and weed.

/r/politics, /r/EnoughTrumpSpam, /r/MarchAgainstTrump, /r/impeach_Trump, /r/regrettingTrump, /r/politicalhumor, /r/political_revolution, /r/LateStageCapitalism, /r/impeachTrump, /r/Trumpgret, /r/shitThe_DonaldSays, /r/fuckthealtright, /r/taxmarch, /r/TopMindsofReddit, /r/the_shulz, /r/Trumpnicknames, /r/againsthatesubreddits, r/the_cheeto, /r/TheDuped, /r/antiTrumpalliance, /r/tinyhandsinc /r/NeverTrump, /r/IndivisibleGuide, /r/BannedfromThe_Donald /r/justicedemocrats, /r/unpresidented, /r/Marchforscience, /r/TrumpforPrison, /r/rightwingwatch, /r/TinyTrumps, /r/hillaryclinton, /r/socialism, /r/MiloForPrison, /r/EnoughRightSpam, /r/the_NewDonald/, /r/ShitRConservativesays, /r/WTFAmerica, /r/EnoughAltRightSpam, /r/EnoughGOPSpam, /r/liesTrumptoldus, /r/Political_Tweets, /r/TrumpAdviceAnimals /r/ourpresident, /r/MarchAgainstDonald, /r/trumpcriticizestrump, /r/RussiaLago, /r/dumptrump, /r/bluemidterm2018, /r/centerleftpolitics, /r/thedonald, /r/The_Mueller, /r/The_Dotard, /r/NewPatriotism, /r/esist,

You should update your list because a lot of those don't exist, are empty/nearly, or long dead.

There you are -

/r/politics, /r/EnoughTrumpSpam, /r/MarchAgainstTrump, /r/impeach_Trump, /r/politicalhumor, /r/political_revolution, /r/LateStageCapitalism, /r/Trumpgret, /r/shitThe_DonaldSays, /r/fuckthealtright, /r/TopMindsofReddit, /r/Trumpnicknames, /r/againsthatesubreddits, /r/TheDuped, /r/antiTrumpalliance, /r/NeverTrump, /r/IndivisibleGuide, /r/BannedfromThe_Donald /r/justicedemocrats, /r/unpresidented, /r/TrumpforPrison, /r/rightwingwatch, /r/TinyTrumps, /r/hillaryclinton, /r/socialism, /r/liesTrumptoldus, /r/Political_Tweets,/r/ourpresident, /r/trumpcriticizestrump, /r/RussiaLago, /r/dumptrump, /r/bluemidterm2018, /r/centerleftpolitics, /r/thedonald, /r/The_Mueller, /r/The_Dotard, /r/NewPatriotism, /r/esist,

Removed -

/r/regrettingTrump,/r/impeachTrump,/r/taxmarch,/r/the_shulz,r/the_cheeto,/r/tinyhandsinc/r/Marchforscience, /r/MiloForPrison,/r/EnoughRightSpam,/r/the_NewDonald,/r/ShitRConservativeSays/, /r/WTFAmerica,/r/EnoughAltRightSpam,/r/EnoughGOPSpam,/r/TrumpAdviceAnimals,/r/MarchAgainstDonald

Still missed a few that don't exist, are dead, etc.

r/conspiracy should take issue with your list as well because posts about weed do very well here and most people would place it on an opposing list.

Which ones?

I have been smoking weed every day for 20 years. It takes up too much space on this sub IMHO.

You should perform due diligence on your own propaganda, I'm not going to ftfy.

It's not something I'm invested in, but it is the demographic here and there are all kinds of issues and conspiracies related to prohibition.

I went through them all before the previous reply.

Awesome. Those gates don't keep themselves, ya know.

US election cycles run until a Democrat wins. Strap in. It'll be another 3 years.

I asked for two things. Your original claim is that Obama didn't count people after they were unemployed for 2 weeks. Blatant bullshit. None of these sources say that. I also asked you to show me that Trump counts unemployment differently than Obama did. None of these say that either.

Would you like to try again bud?