I may have been misinformed

That's a gross understatement...

Username checks out.

PLC is probably one of the most tenured and respected commenters in this sub.

Infamous for sure.

Respected for calling everyone he disagrees with a shill, you mean.

What's the conspiracy?

Trump seems to be anti-LGBT no, he's not. he just doesn't want the government telling people they have to do shit they don't want to like baking cakes for gay people. it's about weakening the role of the government in people's lives. and also is okay with companies paying lower tax. yes, because our economy isn't growing as much as it should. the only way to sustainably get higher wages and better benefits for workers is to give companies the ability to pay for those things to keep their workers happy, and that requires a lower tax burden. redistribution doesn't work. it's inefficient and the money ends up in the hands of those politically connected to those in power in the government. He also seems to be not trying to support more freedom on the internet , supporting Net Neutrality net neutrality isn't about freedom on the internet. companies that created and manage the telecom infrastructure of the internet did so without having massive regulations put on them, and all of the shit you love about the internet was created in that environment. obama 3 years ago decided to fuck everything up and heavily regulate the internet. and getting the NSA to reduce surveillance. obama used the nsa to spy on political enemies.

I can’t believe we’ve entered the timeline where people are using the NSA’s reduction in illegal surveillance against Trump. Jesus. Titty. Fucking. Christ.

Also, fantastic response to this shit post.

He saved Syria from the US, Israel and Saudi. He exposed that the US was using ISIS. He put a road block in the US illegal wars. For that alone, Putin did the world a favor. It may be the only reason Iran has not been invaded yet.

Putin and Russia are not perfect, but I am tired of the US acting like they are morally superior or more free.

Sometimes standing up for Putin isn't so much standing up for Putin but standing up for truth, and also being anti elite who have hijacked America. Why stand by and be ruled by and illegal global elite. The rulers here are not "our" guys, they are war criminals working for someone else.

Putin believe it or not is a peacemaker.

Trump is fighting a hard battle against people that want him to be a good little puppet like Obama or kill him.

His economic achievements last year were great and once he get's his judicial system fixed up you will see more improvements.

I would say you get most of your news from the mainstream media?

A lot of people seem to mistake not believing the Russian collusion story for being pro Trump. And thus if you're pro Trump you must be pro Putin. Of course this is all nonsense.

In fact, in the last few weeks in particular, this sub has turned decidedly pro Clinton.

In what world has this sub become pro Clinton?

In a world where paid shills and easily led fools exist. (i.e this one.)

I'm sorry, but do you honestly think the Clinton campaign (that isn't even a campaign anymore...you realize she lost, right?) has nothing better to do but to actually PAY random people REAL MONEY to sit on a sub like /conspiracy and just randomly post anti-Trump/pro-Clinton shit? If that isn't an exaggerated since of worth/importance, I don't know what is.

If people actually pay to post anti-Trump stuff, please, please, please direct me towards the source. I would LOVE to get paid to just randomly visit reddit subs and spam their boards with anti-Trump material. I've got some student loans/credit card bills that I want to pay down.

You're conflating the "Clinton Campaign" with CIA fuckery.

I'm sorry, but do you honestly think the CIA has nothing better to do but to actually PAY random people REAL MONEY to sit on a sub like /conspiracy and just randomly post anti-Trump/pro-Clinton shit? If that isn't an exaggerated sense of worth/importance, I don't know what is.

If people actually pay to post anti-Trump stuff, please, please, please direct me towards the source. I would LOVE to get paid to just randomly visit reddit subs and spam their boards with anti-Trump material. I've got some student loans/credit card bills that I want to pay down.

The overall ridiculousness of the idea doesn't change, regardless of whether or not you put CIA or Clinton in the subject.

If you don't understand that the CIA already IS influencing every bit of mainstream media you see, even this site, you've still got your head wilfully buried in the sand.

I'm sure Correct The Record would love to have you. Go ahead and send Brock an email.

Seriously?! I could use a part-time job for sure - especially one that allows me to sit on my ass and type statements that have absolutely zero impact on actual political dealings! What do you think "Correct the Record" pays? Do you think they pay by the post or by the day?

I've got about 2K in credit cards right now, so how many anti-Trump posts do you think I'd have to submit in order to get rid of that debt? I am anxiously awaiting your response...

If you think manipulating conversations en masse on social media has zero effect, then I don't know what to tell you.

Um, why did you change your previous post from "Correct the Record" to "Share Blue"?

Also, if you think the posts in /conspiracy have had ANY actual impact on ANY actual political issue in the REAL world, then I don't know what to tell you either...

Because Correct the Record was pre election. It's now Share Blue.

K.

Can you answer honestly?

If you were someone that honestly cared about the answer instead of asking just to set up a rebuttal, maybe I would.

But no thanks. Not in the mood to deal with deliberately obtuse users today.

This information has been posted here countless times, and any regular user on a conspiracy sub knows shills exist.

In your short history here, you have an inordinate amount of posts trying to discredit the fact that there are paid shills. Which tells me you're not interested in the truth.

Gatekeeping. You can only hear the answer once I’m confident you will agree with me.

Gaslighting. Receiving evidence from reliable sources, yet continuing to deflect and discredit.

What evidence? You just refused to post any didn’t you?

u/RedPillFiend is a gaslighter too, calling me obsessed and weird because he wanted to score some cheap shots against me. Just an FYI in case you see him again.

Complains about behavior being called obsessed and weird.

Proceeds to act obsessed and weird.

What's wrong? Slow day over at TMOR?

ad hominem

gaslighting

fake concern ad hominem

Please stop gaslighting. Thank you for teaching me that word, but now stop doing it.

Haha. You're amusing.

Apology accepted.

I’m not going to debate the presence of shills. Spend a little time here with an open mind and decide for yourself. You can either accept they exist across the entirety of Reddit, or you can conclude that they’re everywhere else but have miraculously chosen to avoid this sub.

Have an amazing day.

Apology accepted? Oh, bless your sweet, little heart. Do I believe people shitpost? Believe me, I've spent enough time in this sub to know that they do. Do I believe that somebody is getting rich off half-assed attempts to smear political opponents through Reddit? Nah.

APOLOGY ACCEPTED! YOU LOST CUCK GET OVER IT MAGA

What an appropriate username...

Lol sorry I couldn’t resist. We both know that’s what the other user really wanted to say

This sub has NOT become pro Clinton.

That's the invaders here that astroturf threads to make you think that.

Has any other president waved a lgbt flag on stage at a rally? Get out of here with that he’s anti lgbt , turn off cnn you are brainwashed

He tried to ban trans people from the military. How is that pro LGBTQ?

Even worse, he did it against the wishes of the military and weakened the country's combat effectiveness - just as a distraction.

As a pro trump lesbian I can confirm he’s absolutely not anti-LGBT. He’s the first republican President to enter office pro LGBT. I’m also an Air Force veteran, and I oppose transgenders in the military as well. It has nothing to do with their sexuality, its for the safety of the other service members. Example, youre transitioning and get deployed and you’re stuck in a foxhole for 90 days with no access to any medication or hormones you need. Our military excels at combat readiness and not being able to have medication you need would interfere with that. Also, hes not a politician. He cant be baught which is why other politicians and the elite hate him, they have no leverage over him. He loves our police and our military which is something they haven’t felt in a very long time. He loves money, and he knows everyone else loves money and he’s tired of the American people being robbed. If you go watch any of his interviews from the 80s/90s/00s, his stance on anything has never changed, unlike politicians who will say anything for a vote. If you ignore the MSM and research anything he’s said in the past 30 years you’ll see that he loves the American people.

As for Putin I’m no expert on him but would it be the worst thing for us to have a good relationship with the other superpower of the world??

He picked a vice president who openly opposes gay mariage.

Gay marriage is a state issue. If Pence had any authority to ban gays nation wide or talk Trump into it, then i’m sure my veiws would be different. I’d be hard pressed if you found any old politician who didn’t openly oppose gay marriage at one point. Including Hillary and Obama

Fair enough but it's hard to say Trump fully supports gay rights when he chose a VP, one of if not the most important position in his cabinet, who is so vocal against them. Wether he's able to set policies or not, it's his stance on the issue

I understand where you’re coming from. But lets face it, most of the republicans are anti-LGBT and they’re just scummy people. He had to pick a republican who he felt shared the same policies with for the nation as a whole, not just for one group of people. Don’t judge Trump off of Pence because I guarantee someone as outspoken and independent as Trump didn’t even want a VP lol.

But lets face it, most of the republicans are anti-LGBT and they’re just scummy people.

And Trump is definitively no better, if you've looked into his political stance on marriage equality and even condemnation of civil unions.

Don’t judge Trump off of Pence

Don't gatekeep. If it's bad, it's bad.

Pence and his creepy old-school bigotry are bad.

Ok we get it you’re gay and you hate trump. I live in NY and the LGBT marched in stance with Islam last year, they execute gays. So I’m not sure what any gay persons stance is on anything. Like i said we’ll probably never see eye to eye but I have the right to marriage and my own views.

Ok we get it you’re gay and you hate trump.

Hahahahaha

I live in NY and the LGBT marched in stance with Islam last year, they execute gays.

Mike Pence supported execution of gays.

Putin supports the torture of gays.

So I’m not sure what any gay persons stance is on anything. Like i said we’ll probably never see eye to eye but I have the right to marriage and my own views.

I’m aware of Putins stance on gays but I don’t live in Russia. And did Pence do it? Like I said he has no authority. Why are you dividing the nation into gays vs everyone else? Do you have a stance on any other issue?

I’m aware of Putins stance on gays but I don’t live in Russia.

I'm aware of your stance on Putin. Haha

Like I said he has no authority.

What part of "vice president"

Why are you dividing the nation into gays vs everyone else?

Haha what? Why are you lying about me?

You’re being way too radical. This is why Trump won

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Gay marriage is a state issue.

Because as a real lesbian™ you don't care about gay people losing their rights when they cross state borders.

Of course I do. But the conversation wasn’t about state governors it’s about the Vice President of the whole country who has no authority to do that.

This is a Gish gallop argument which is mostly false, but when trying to disprove one thing you said I accidentally disproved another.

As a pro trump lesbian I can confirm he’s absolutely not anti-LGBT.

"Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He said that he opposed it because he was a “traditional” guy, choosing to support domestic partnership benefits instead."

his stance on anything has never changed, unlike politicians who will say anything for a vote.

"Trump later reversed himself and said he also opposed civil unions."

-Human Rights Commission

I meant on policy, but you’re right and I should’ve been more clear on that. LGBT issues are not what I personally base my votes on. Yes I love girls, but I also love keeping my own money and times of peace. There’s a lot more to worry about than the issues of one group of people which I said previously. The majority of LGBT issues have been solved. There’s more to focus on now. I’m sure we’ll never see eye to eye on this but thats whats so great about this, everyone expressing their opinions.

The majority of LGBT issues have been solved.

...oh, thank God. I guess we can all go home now. And racism? That's fixed as well, right?

Might as well

I don't support the former, and the latter is complicated. In fact a my friend and I have a not-exactly kosher play on Putin that we always use when we talk amongst outselves (you can probably figure it out).

Putin is a mass of contradictions because his role is that of a moderator balancing the various factions and oligarchs threatening to pull that country apart. He matters only in the sense that he is a stabilizing force that prevents Russia from slipping into the mayhem of the 1990s. You have to remember this in context how bad Yeltsin was - a man who ordered the military attacked and murder his own government and who let Chechnya and terrorism spiral out of control.

The bottom line is that stable governments are a necessary condition for global stability, and I see a leader who wound down the Chechnya conflict and is now helping to pull Syria back from the brink as a generally positive force in the world, even as I don't agree with his on-again-off-again exploitation of the situation in the Donbass, Ukraine, ie supporting the rebels only to pull the rug out from under them to gain leverage on the Kiev government.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/world/europe/ukraine-russia-mikhail-tolstykh-dead.html

As an ally, he's been a bit flaky, and this is something that's not well understood in the west, as they want to portray him as a kind of master strategist. He's constrained by the various factions that he has to balance constantly within his own government, and Russia will never have truly coherent policy. But what the US can realize is that large countries have their own spheres of influence and regional interests. They don't have to be fought and denied at every turn, as that will only exacerbate conflict and make things worse for everyone.

Why support anyone

Apparently being anti LGBT like the rest of the presidents makes you bad at your job now.

America has been pussified.

I’m aware of Putins stance on gays but I don’t live in Russia.

I'm aware of your stance on Putin. Haha

Like I said he has no authority.

What part of "vice president"

Why are you dividing the nation into gays vs everyone else?

Haha what? Why are you lying about me?

Might as well

If you were someone that honestly cared about the answer instead of asking just to set up a rebuttal, maybe I would.

But no thanks. Not in the mood to deal with deliberately obtuse users today.

This information has been posted here countless times, and any regular user on a conspiracy sub knows shills exist.

In your short history here, you have an inordinate amount of posts trying to discredit the fact that there are paid shills. Which tells me you're not interested in the truth.