Vanishing Text Messages Sent from Hawaii

142  2018-01-16 by CompleteDoll

Saturday, Jan 13: My Brother In Law lives in Maui and sent 3 text messages to his siblings on the mainland telling of the ballistic missile incoming and his goodbyes. We were all panicked, sending our love and goodbyes back to him.

Monday, Jan 15: Those 3 initial text messages sent from my Brother in Law have VANISHED from ALL of his siblings cell phones. All other messages remain in the group text. No one deleted any messages.

Did this happen to anyone else?

Reposted due to Capitalization rule violation, my apologies.

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I'm gkad you repoated, I'm watching this thread for corroboration.

You ok?

You got upvotes because you found someone typing on their phone and think SPLELLING mistakes are super important to rag on people about?

26 day old account, why bother with such a surface level issue?

I got a new phone and have been struggling with getting the autocorrect features as I like them. My typos are up like 1000% in the last 2 weeks haha.

Typing on mobile devices sucks, but at least there's emojis šŸ˜‹šŸ˜‰šŸ˜»

Word šŸ’šŸ’šŸ’

Very interesting. I hope someone steps forward after hearing your call.

To answer questions posted in original post.

My husband's phone is TMobile, personally owned. I'm not sure what carriers are used by the other siblings, but they are personally owned phones. All Androids, no iPhones.

The text messages were actual SMS messages.

Monday is when we noticed the missing messages, they could have disappeared anytime after around 11am (CST) Saturday.

We are checking with my brother-in-law to see if he still has the messages.

Clarification,

you bro in laws texts are missing or the warning texts?

Bother in law texts vanished.

thats messed up. manually deleted?

No one deleted them, they just vanished.

Have you looked into it further? What hapened?

I don't know what happened.

Did you happen to read that article where the FBI lost all their messages in "glitch"

Missing DOJ text messages? Or from Hawaii? Do you have a link?

Weren't sent & received texts going missing after the LV massacre?

Not sure but they didnt confiscate everyone's shit and wiped it.

Didn't or did?

Did. Sorry I was using voice to text.

Or someone changed it to "didn't" for you....

You mean spez.

Nah, I'm honest it was probably my phone. But if I did I'll go with the ol' "THANKS OBAMA!"

There were reports. I never saw anything I could take to court.

It wasn't a text message. It was an alert...like an amber alert. They go away after its viewed.

Mine don't. They stay in my sms queue, sorted by time amongst the non-alert texts.

This is a post about text messages to family members, not the actual alert. Honestly, why comment on something you didnā€™t read?

Nope. My sister and I still have a text from our cousin in Hawaii

Regarding the event?

Ya. That's what this is all about. Not just random text from people from Hawaii.

Ok just verifying. Ty

Unless we start hearing a lot more of these accounts, I am wagering that either:

a) His message was lost in the digital bitbucket during a surge of texting that overwhelmed telecom systems.

or,

b) In the extreme stress of the moment he remembers sending a text he never actually sent.

That aside, I don't see any strategic play where deleting texts documenting something that is very publicly known would be beneficial.

Your ā€œb)ā€ doesnā€™t account for the fact that it was received by his siblings who sent responses back.

They all had a shared psychotic episode, duh!

/s

Ah, I misread that part where they responded. You are correct. I'll stick to my first theory of technical failure.

r/Mandelaeffect

Your family probably experienced a shift in reality where the texts were never sent. I used to think it was a load of crap and then experienced quite a few flip-flops with words/quotes/street signs changing

You forgot your /s

Here I will add it for you:

/s

my first thoughts were mandela effect too, becasue I think its possible... but too paranormal for most here on r/conspiracy.

I've not had vanishing texts, but I have been receiving phone calls from loved ones at times that they were unable to call me, (asleep, away from their phones), that I never hear ring. Instead, I only receive alert saying that I've missed the call.

Last of these was this morning at 5:14am when my sleeping stepmother apparently called me and left no message.

Iā€™ve had this happen to me before AND once someone with a similar number (off by two digits) called me, but claimed they didnā€™t and they had no record. We sent each other screen shots of it and couldnā€™t figure it out. No ring. No message. Just a missed call.

Caller ID can and regularly is faked. I get calls all the time from phone numbers near mine. Sometimes it's spam callers, sometimes it's people claiming I called them.

But whatā€™s the point of this? Nothing happens.

They could be testing active phone numbers by calling and immediately hanging up (so you never hear your phone ring but you get a missed call), or they could be calling and the cell network for whatever reason doesn't connect the call. The latter happens to me from time to time - real phone calls don't go through, but I see missed calls.

I guess! shrug

There is a really neat episode on Reply All that tracks down some of these consistant phone calls with nothing behind them. Turns out to be very interesting and convoluted story about how companies use robot dialers and shave pennies per call and are making huge dollars.

But my guess is and this is most often the case imop that it is either debt collectors or data collectors using info to either pinpoint or corroborate other information.

There is a point to spoofing numbers. Usually cops, lawyers, collection agencies and sales scammers like to do it to trick people into answering.

People claiming they called you thing happened to me. Turns out it was telemarketers using my phone number when spoofing caller Id. I figured it out when I got a call from myself...

I frequently get spam calls from numbers really similar to mine, and some people I know experience the same thing.

Like if my number is (123) 456-7890, I get a call from (123) 456-9336. If I don't answer and call the number back, it's invalid.

Its such bullshit. I changed my number of 10 years because of it. Haven't had a problem since.

I subscribed to a service called Jolly Roger which lets you connect callers to a bot that just fucks with them. It works best if you have Google Voice or a phone number that can ring multiple other numbers at once (like VOIP home phones).

As far as I know, there isn't a service like this with an app (so known spam callers would be automatically connected via three way call to the bot), but I would totally pay for a service that could do that.

This happened to me recently. Someone called me via a number so similar to mine. Off by 1 number. I was asleep so, I did not pick the call up but, when I tried to call back, it said "this number is unreachable" or something like that.

Very weird.

It was like my phone number is 123-456-7899 and the number that called me was was 123-456-7898. That's how identical it was.

Your own cell phone company sells you out and lets spammers spoof as your number. Fucking sad.

Your number was used in a scam attempt. People hid behind a fake caller ID (your number) and attempted to get money from other people with similar numbers. The victim missed ā€œyourā€ call initially and called you back to see who it was. You didnā€™t know why they got a call from you, because they actually didnā€™t.

This has to explain why a guy called me today saying he missed my call but I never called that number.. šŸ¤”

Happened to me on last Friday too

People record your voice too if you answer.

Interesting!!

I've had this number for 14 years, and there's been some crazy calls!

Yea, Im getting phone calls from random ppl. First three digits are almost always the same as mine

This just happened to my coworker actually... Weird?

Combined with the systemic issues with missile tests...it's very weird.

Text messages are stored locally on your phone when you receive them, so unless you're accusing some entity of hacking all your phones and deleting it that's not possible.

Totally within the realm of possibility.

Possible, but unlikely.

possible and routine with stringray devices.

I don't know about vanishing but I've noticed that all of my text messages that I get are coming in out of order. Example: I send my friend a text, and his response is above the text I sent. Is it possible they're out of order especially due to the network congestion?

Iā€™ve had this too lately. Made me wonder if I have a bug

Maybe you have a millennium bug.

Could it have been TOFSEE?

Let me guess, iPhone? Itā€™s a known problem on the latest iOS.

Android actually. Some random bug I guess.

I have a couple of friends who use Android, when that first happened I thought they were trippin, but later I figured it's probably their network. Apparently the shorter messages that take up less "space" are sent first, followed by the longer ones.

I had this happen bc my husband's phone clock was a few minutes ahead of or behind mine. Maybe check that out?

Thanks I'll check that.

No problem! :)

I've seen that too, wtf

I've had these problems with my old Iphone, but now I'm on Android and never had any trouble for 2 years.

Are you on iPhone? Mine has been doing the same

Most likely congestion or weak signal on one end.

iPhone?

Mine has been putting the wrong names in my text inbox. For example I have a text convo with charlotte but the name has been changed to Ben.

Also some names have totally disappeared and instead just the number is there.

This got me laid once. A girl I met on vacation at the beach once and remained Facebook friends (with only a rare like or two of each otherā€™s posts) texted me a few days before New Years about 4 years later and asked what I was doing. It took a few messages before she realized she had texted me and not the female friend she had typed. Anyway, we got to catching up and when she stated she could use another vacation I suggested she come to the college town I lived in for New Years. Things went really well that night and she drove back to her state the next day. Weā€™re still Facebook friends and both in serious relationships now but itā€™s probably the best New Yearā€™s Eve Iā€™ve had so far and it stemmed from a glitch in her phone (unless that was a ruse but considering we hadnā€™t communicated in several years and her reaction I believe her).

see nothing like that would ever happen to me haha!

I've had this as an android clock bug

All devices are basically rented tech from our big brothers.

Is this happening with both android and apple?

I had one disappear that evening, no reason at all. The reply to it is there but it's like it never existed, I watched it "poof" right after it showed up as sent. Really weird. But then again cell phones are known to behave strangely in my town, where the Stingray and similar eavesdropping devices are made(and probably tested iykwim).

What messaging app you're using? They all delete messages after hitting a certain limit.

Not in Hawaii but last week I had a missed call that never rang, and the # was 000-000-0001. No voicemail. And a couple weeks ago I texted a friend and then checked my messages several times, never seeing the (1) indicating there was a new, unread message, but when I went to text him later in the week, sure enough the response was there when I opened the convo thread.

Strange af

Caller ID can and regularly is faked. I get calls all the time from phone numbers near mine. Sometimes it's spam callers, sometimes it's people claiming I called them.

Your number was used in a scam attempt. People hid behind a fake caller ID (your number) and attempted to get money from other people with similar numbers. The victim missed ā€œyourā€ call initially and called you back to see who it was. You didnā€™t know why they got a call from you, because they actually didnā€™t.

Yea, Im getting phone calls from random ppl. First three digits are almost always the same as mine