Vanishing Text Messages Sent from Hawaii
142 2018-01-16 by CompleteDoll
Saturday, Jan 13: My Brother In Law lives in Maui and sent 3 text messages to his siblings on the mainland telling of the ballistic missile incoming and his goodbyes. We were all panicked, sending our love and goodbyes back to him.
Monday, Jan 15: Those 3 initial text messages sent from my Brother in Law have VANISHED from ALL of his siblings cell phones. All other messages remain in the group text. No one deleted any messages.
Did this happen to anyone else?
Reposted due to Capitalization rule violation, my apologies.
90 comments
1 mastigia 2018-01-16
I'm gkad you repoated, I'm watching this thread for corroboration.
1 raydasian 2018-01-16
You ok?
1 bittermanscolon 2018-01-16
You got upvotes because you found someone typing on their phone and think SPLELLING mistakes are super important to rag on people about?
26 day old account, why bother with such a surface level issue?
1 mastigia 2018-01-16
I got a new phone and have been struggling with getting the autocorrect features as I like them. My typos are up like 1000% in the last 2 weeks haha.
1 martini-meow 2018-01-16
Typing on mobile devices sucks, but at least there's emojis ššš»
1 mastigia 2018-01-16
Word ššš
1 bittermanscolon 2018-01-16
Very interesting. I hope someone steps forward after hearing your call.
1 CompleteDoll 2018-01-16
To answer questions posted in original post.
My husband's phone is TMobile, personally owned. I'm not sure what carriers are used by the other siblings, but they are personally owned phones. All Androids, no iPhones.
The text messages were actual SMS messages.
Monday is when we noticed the missing messages, they could have disappeared anytime after around 11am (CST) Saturday.
We are checking with my brother-in-law to see if he still has the messages.
1 dontdothey 2018-01-16
Clarification,
you bro in laws texts are missing or the warning texts?
1 CompleteDoll 2018-01-16
Bother in law texts vanished.
1 dontdothey 2018-01-16
thats messed up. manually deleted?
1 CompleteDoll 2018-01-16
No one deleted them, they just vanished.
1 dontdothey 2018-01-16
Have you looked into it further? What hapened?
1 CompleteDoll 2018-01-16
I don't know what happened.
1 dontdothey 2018-01-16
Did you happen to read that article where the FBI lost all their messages in "glitch"
1 CompleteDoll 2018-01-16
Missing DOJ text messages? Or from Hawaii? Do you have a link?
1 dontdothey 2018-01-16
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/370560-many-fbi-phones-impacted-by-glitch-that-resulted-in-loss-of-texts-report
1 martini-meow 2018-01-16
Weren't sent & received texts going missing after the LV massacre?
1 Joe_Sapien 2018-01-16
Not sure but they didnt confiscate everyone's shit and wiped it.
1 martini-meow 2018-01-16
Didn't or did?
1 Joe_Sapien 2018-01-16
Did. Sorry I was using voice to text.
1 hrc-for-prison 2018-01-16
Or someone changed it to "didn't" for you....
1 spqrherewecome 2018-01-16
You mean spez.
1 Joe_Sapien 2018-01-16
Nah, I'm honest it was probably my phone. But if I did I'll go with the ol' "THANKS OBAMA!"
1 mastigia 2018-01-16
There were reports. I never saw anything I could take to court.
1 Mushroomsinabag 2018-01-16
It wasn't a text message. It was an alert...like an amber alert. They go away after its viewed.
1 martini-meow 2018-01-16
Mine don't. They stay in my sms queue, sorted by time amongst the non-alert texts.
1 RemedialSomnus 2018-01-16
This is a post about text messages to family members, not the actual alert. Honestly, why comment on something you didnāt read?
1 Guerrilla_Time 2018-01-16
Nope. My sister and I still have a text from our cousin in Hawaii
1 DukeLeto2 2018-01-16
Regarding the event?
1 Guerrilla_Time 2018-01-16
Ya. That's what this is all about. Not just random text from people from Hawaii.
1 DukeLeto2 2018-01-16
Ok just verifying. Ty
1 WorknForTheWeekend 2018-01-16
Unless we start hearing a lot more of these accounts, I am wagering that either:
a) His message was lost in the digital bitbucket during a surge of texting that overwhelmed telecom systems.
or,
b) In the extreme stress of the moment he remembers sending a text he never actually sent.
That aside, I don't see any strategic play where deleting texts documenting something that is very publicly known would be beneficial.
1 RemedialSomnus 2018-01-16
Your āb)ā doesnāt account for the fact that it was received by his siblings who sent responses back.
1 bittermanscolon 2018-01-16
They all had a shared psychotic episode, duh!
/s
1 WorknForTheWeekend 2018-01-16
Ah, I misread that part where they responded. You are correct. I'll stick to my first theory of technical failure.
1 ThatSluttyPumpkin 2018-01-16
r/Mandelaeffect
Your family probably experienced a shift in reality where the texts were never sent. I used to think it was a load of crap and then experienced quite a few flip-flops with words/quotes/street signs changing
1 toomuchpork 2018-01-16
You forgot your /s
Here I will add it for you:
/s
1 rantingsofastarseed 2018-01-16
my first thoughts were mandela effect too, becasue I think its possible... but too paranormal for most here on r/conspiracy.
1 thewesticle 2018-01-16
I've not had vanishing texts, but I have been receiving phone calls from loved ones at times that they were unable to call me, (asleep, away from their phones), that I never hear ring. Instead, I only receive alert saying that I've missed the call.
Last of these was this morning at 5:14am when my sleeping stepmother apparently called me and left no message.
1 lizzbug 2018-01-16
Iāve had this happen to me before AND once someone with a similar number (off by two digits) called me, but claimed they didnāt and they had no record. We sent each other screen shots of it and couldnāt figure it out. No ring. No message. Just a missed call.
1 ShutYourFaceJabroni 2018-01-16
Caller ID can and regularly is faked. I get calls all the time from phone numbers near mine. Sometimes it's spam callers, sometimes it's people claiming I called them.
1 lizzbug 2018-01-16
But whatās the point of this? Nothing happens.
1 ShutYourFaceJabroni 2018-01-16
They could be testing active phone numbers by calling and immediately hanging up (so you never hear your phone ring but you get a missed call), or they could be calling and the cell network for whatever reason doesn't connect the call. The latter happens to me from time to time - real phone calls don't go through, but I see missed calls.
1 lizzbug 2018-01-16
I guess! shrug
1 buttlerubbies 2018-01-16
There is a really neat episode on Reply All that tracks down some of these consistant phone calls with nothing behind them. Turns out to be very interesting and convoluted story about how companies use robot dialers and shave pennies per call and are making huge dollars.
But my guess is and this is most often the case imop that it is either debt collectors or data collectors using info to either pinpoint or corroborate other information.
1 containerfluid 2018-01-16
Link to the episode: https://gimletmedia.com/episode/104-case-phantom-caller/
1 mountainwampus 2018-01-16
There is a point to spoofing numbers. Usually cops, lawyers, collection agencies and sales scammers like to do it to trick people into answering.
1 Popular_Prescription 2018-01-16
People claiming they called you thing happened to me. Turns out it was telemarketers using my phone number when spoofing caller Id. I figured it out when I got a call from myself...
1 SpenB 2018-01-16
I frequently get spam calls from numbers really similar to mine, and some people I know experience the same thing.
Like if my number is (123) 456-7890, I get a call from (123) 456-9336. If I don't answer and call the number back, it's invalid.
1 Popular_Prescription 2018-01-16
Its such bullshit. I changed my number of 10 years because of it. Haven't had a problem since.
1 SpenB 2018-01-16
I subscribed to a service called Jolly Roger which lets you connect callers to a bot that just fucks with them. It works best if you have Google Voice or a phone number that can ring multiple other numbers at once (like VOIP home phones).
As far as I know, there isn't a service like this with an app (so known spam callers would be automatically connected via three way call to the bot), but I would totally pay for a service that could do that.
1 OneMulatto 2018-01-16
This happened to me recently. Someone called me via a number so similar to mine. Off by 1 number. I was asleep so, I did not pick the call up but, when I tried to call back, it said "this number is unreachable" or something like that.
Very weird.
It was like my phone number is 123-456-7899 and the number that called me was was 123-456-7898. That's how identical it was.
1 d3rr 2018-01-16
Your own cell phone company sells you out and lets spammers spoof as your number. Fucking sad.
1 deadestcousin 2018-01-16
Your number was used in a scam attempt. People hid behind a fake caller ID (your number) and attempted to get money from other people with similar numbers. The victim missed āyourā call initially and called you back to see who it was. You didnāt know why they got a call from you, because they actually didnāt.
1 Twallace91 2018-01-16
This has to explain why a guy called me today saying he missed my call but I never called that number.. š¤
1 Buckfutter8D 2018-01-16
Happened to me on last Friday too
1 Wheretuh 2018-01-16
People record your voice too if you answer.
1 lizzbug 2018-01-16
Interesting!!
I've had this number for 14 years, and there's been some crazy calls!
1 altleftisnotreal 2018-01-16
Yea, Im getting phone calls from random ppl. First three digits are almost always the same as mine
1 donuthazard 2018-01-16
This just happened to my coworker actually... Weird?
1 thewesticle 2018-01-16
Combined with the systemic issues with missile tests...it's very weird.
1 mrboyboytheboy 2018-01-16
Text messages are stored locally on your phone when you receive them, so unless you're accusing some entity of hacking all your phones and deleting it that's not possible.
1 spqrherewecome 2018-01-16
Totally within the realm of possibility.
1 mrboyboytheboy 2018-01-16
Possible, but unlikely.
1 RiverXer 2018-01-16
possible and routine with stringray devices.
1 Ddraig 2018-01-16
I don't know about vanishing but I've noticed that all of my text messages that I get are coming in out of order. Example: I send my friend a text, and his response is above the text I sent. Is it possible they're out of order especially due to the network congestion?
1 megalynn44 2018-01-16
Iāve had this too lately. Made me wonder if I have a bug
1 Step2TheJep 2018-01-16
Maybe you have a millennium bug.
1 DustinTurdo 2018-01-16
Could it have been TOFSEE?
1 OhSixTJ 2018-01-16
Let me guess, iPhone? Itās a known problem on the latest iOS.
1 Ddraig 2018-01-16
Android actually. Some random bug I guess.
1 elisahan35 2018-01-16
I have a couple of friends who use Android, when that first happened I thought they were trippin, but later I figured it's probably their network. Apparently the shorter messages that take up less "space" are sent first, followed by the longer ones.
1 Weirdbhamcall 2018-01-16
I had this happen bc my husband's phone clock was a few minutes ahead of or behind mine. Maybe check that out?
1 Ddraig 2018-01-16
Thanks I'll check that.
1 Weirdbhamcall 2018-01-16
No problem! :)
1 iadd72499 2018-01-16
I've seen that too, wtf
1 MissFunkyH 2018-01-16
I've had these problems with my old Iphone, but now I'm on Android and never had any trouble for 2 years.
1 QMS235 2018-01-16
Are you on iPhone? Mine has been doing the same
1 Griskor 2018-01-16
Most likely congestion or weak signal on one end.
1 sons_of_many_bitches 2018-01-16
iPhone?
Mine has been putting the wrong names in my text inbox. For example I have a text convo with charlotte but the name has been changed to Ben.
Also some names have totally disappeared and instead just the number is there.
1 RonWisely 2018-01-16
This got me laid once. A girl I met on vacation at the beach once and remained Facebook friends (with only a rare like or two of each otherās posts) texted me a few days before New Years about 4 years later and asked what I was doing. It took a few messages before she realized she had texted me and not the female friend she had typed. Anyway, we got to catching up and when she stated she could use another vacation I suggested she come to the college town I lived in for New Years. Things went really well that night and she drove back to her state the next day. Weāre still Facebook friends and both in serious relationships now but itās probably the best New Yearās Eve Iāve had so far and it stemmed from a glitch in her phone (unless that was a ruse but considering we hadnāt communicated in several years and her reaction I believe her).
1 sons_of_many_bitches 2018-01-16
see nothing like that would ever happen to me haha!
1 SliceItEvenly 2018-01-16
I've had this as an android clock bug
1 joseph177 2018-01-16
All devices are basically rented tech from our big brothers.
1 Weirdbhamcall 2018-01-16
Is this happening with both android and apple?
1 TilapiaTale 2018-01-16
I had one disappear that evening, no reason at all. The reply to it is there but it's like it never existed, I watched it "poof" right after it showed up as sent. Really weird. But then again cell phones are known to behave strangely in my town, where the Stingray and similar eavesdropping devices are made(and probably tested iykwim).
1 freesp33chisstilldea 2018-01-16
What messaging app you're using? They all delete messages after hitting a certain limit.
1 ibonek_naw_ibo 2018-01-16
Not in Hawaii but last week I had a missed call that never rang, and the # was 000-000-0001. No voicemail. And a couple weeks ago I texted a friend and then checked my messages several times, never seeing the (1) indicating there was a new, unread message, but when I went to text him later in the week, sure enough the response was there when I opened the convo thread.
1 Twallace91 2018-01-16
Strange af
1 ShutYourFaceJabroni 2018-01-16
Caller ID can and regularly is faked. I get calls all the time from phone numbers near mine. Sometimes it's spam callers, sometimes it's people claiming I called them.
1 deadestcousin 2018-01-16
Your number was used in a scam attempt. People hid behind a fake caller ID (your number) and attempted to get money from other people with similar numbers. The victim missed āyourā call initially and called you back to see who it was. You didnāt know why they got a call from you, because they actually didnāt.
1 altleftisnotreal 2018-01-16
Yea, Im getting phone calls from random ppl. First three digits are almost always the same as mine