/r/topmindsofreddit (TMOR) is actively and obsessively harassing me. Here's proof.
0 2018-01-31 by axolotl_peyotl
Perhaps emboldened by the admin's apparent apathy to behavior that should be considered as going against the core ethos of this website, the stalker/hate sub known as TMOR has significantly increased their attacks against me.
For example, this submission statement of mine from 15 hours ago has managed to achieve an impressive -85 in comment karma.
Curiously, the thread never got very popular (it hit 0 fairly quickly) and less than a dozen other users actually commented at all.
For those familiar with reddit, that would not account for almost -100 comment karma, with well over +100 comment karma for the top comment (which was a TMOR-esque ad hominem attack against me).
Here's the explanation. Notice how this TMOR thread has significantly more activity than my thread: it's at 257 points with 46 comments.
IMO this is irrefutable evidence of a TMOR induced/inspired brigade that created a -100/+100 discrepancy in the voting of my post.
In a similar example from today, another comment of mine was downvoted dozens of times and it just so happens it was linked by TMOR as well.
And hey look, they linked to another one of my posts today..
As of late, TMOR has decided to honor me with multiple links to my posts and comments on their front page on a regular basis (there are at least 4 on their front page right now!). Their current sticky is even some sort of perverse call to arms against me.
Scanning through these threads is a fascinating experience...they don't even know me, and yet it's palpable how they delight in their obsessive disdain, and all over some person on the internet!
This thread should serve as a good reference point for those who accuse us of spouting baseless accusations against what very clearly is despicable behavior being regularly carried out by hate-oriented subs like TMOR.
90 comments
1 foolsoftheworld 2018-01-31
If you stopped giving them attention and if we banned cross posters this might help. I don’t think anyone would disagree with banning users from that sub.
1 wololoPriestAoE 2018-01-31
Maybe stop posting stupid stuff?
1 DonnaGail 2018-01-31
This must mean you are doing something right (like spreading truth). Otherwise, they wouldn't attack you.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-31
I noticed a certain former moderator of this forum is now a prominent member of that group. Why is that?
1 Balthanos 2018-01-31
?
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-31
What is your confusion? Do you not know whom I am referring to?
1 Balthanos 2018-01-31
I guess not. If you're not comfortable mentioning them publicly shoot me a pm
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-31
TheGhostOfDusty
1 Balthanos 2018-01-31
Oh.. that guy. Yeah. I try to forget they exist.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-01-31
I was just curious. Any insight might explain why that group systematically targets and seemingly hates the moderators of this forum.
1 Letterbocks 2018-01-31
Take it to the admins
1 mastigia 2018-01-31
Oh, they know.
1 axolotl_peyotl 2018-01-31
They don't care.
1 bogpiII 2018-01-31
Muh internet points
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
Intentionally stupid? He doesn't care about the points.
You should count your days because the admins might actually do something about this one.
1 bogpiII 2018-01-31
What
1 Iwantaporsche 2018-01-31
Ye olde internet threat lol. u/ConspiracyAccount you are a joke
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
No you.
1 Balthanos 2018-01-31
Removed. Rule 10
1 Iwantaporsche 2018-01-31
I get it was removed. Can you please explain to me why?
1 MissType 2018-01-31
Take comfort in their outrage. They obviously target you because they’re afraid of what you have to say, so keep on triggering them.
It’s a shame admins can’t see this/ refuse to act, but quite a few of the hate subs have been told to stop user-tagging recently. Maybe admins are realizing how badly this bullying behaviour reflects on Reddit, and they can’t have that when they go public.
1 T0T3N 2018-01-31
What is Top minds of reddit? Newish to reddit and don’t understand the beef with this sub and that one. I checked them out. Do they just make fun of post from other subs?
1 MissType 2018-01-31
TMOR exists solely to mock and harass people who don’t follow the approved MSM/ Governement narrative. They’re unable to produce original content, so they piggyback on the thoughts of others to make themselves feel clever.
This provides a good idea of the type of users who participate there: Dunning-Kruger effect
1 redem 2018-01-31
Yes. Specifically those of a conspiracy bent or other forms of "genius" like flat earthers.
The OP is apparently a regular contributer to their mirth.
1 T0T3N 2018-01-31
That’s really lame. From what I’ve seen here nobody here is claiming “genius” status but just exchanging ideas and theories they may or may not believe in. It’s a fucking conspiracy sub I don’t get it. The only problem I have with this sub is it’s a little to heavy with the politics.
1 redem 2018-01-31
Eh, it's a common enough sort of subreddit. Others dedicated to racism, etc... or to highlighting stupid shit from all sorts of people.
As for conspiracy theorists, there is a broad range and some of them are legitimately mentally ill. Others thing they're supergeniuses that can see the truth that all those other sheeple miss. Some Pepe Silva shit. Pizzagaters for example, invented a shadowy cabal of pedophiles from a couple of emails that mention pizza... wild leaps of logic. Aka "top minds".
1 skindoe 2018-01-31
So there response to seeing someone mentally ill is to insult and demean them? That says a lot about them...
1 redem 2018-01-31
Individual members may vary in their responses, but for some, yes. You can find those if you dig into the history of the place.
I suppose they might argue it's not mockery but "highlighting" some of the crazy. Anyway, they and other similar subs pop up on /r/all from time to time, if you use that as your front page like I do you'll see them whenever something extremely highly upvoted is posted.
I do recommend that; if you're new to reddit you might not know about /r/all but it's what /r/popular replaced. It gets all sorts of cool stuff from all over reddit (except quarantined subs). A great way to find new subs or just awesome content you would otherwise miss.
1 The_In-Betweener 2018-01-31
I was over there in a thread the other day and they banned me.
You should just make a megathread on TMOR and sticky it to the top. All the users that have been affected by TMOR can drop comments in it. Then we'll send it to all the news websites and see if we can get an article about it. The only way Reddit inc. might care is if the PR is bad enough. Even then...
Article talking about Reddit and 4chan - "What It’s Like for a Woman to Be Targeted by an Online Mob " - https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/2018/01/30/what-its-like-for-a-woman-to-be-targeted-by-an-online-mob/
Check it out u/polkadotgirl
1 MohammadBinSalman 2018-01-31
Please be cautious, KQED is part funded by CGI and there were rumours they were directly involved in the dissappearance of two dozen Ecuadorian children who were due to be adopted in the USA.
https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2014/02/05/miley-abramovic-the-artist-came-in-like-a-wrecking-ball/
1 NothingLasts 2018-01-31
I don't think losing magic internet points would be seen as a significant story. The article you linked is about a person whose online profiles were connected with her real identity, which makes the harassment more serious.
1 UnbearablePenguin 2018-01-31
Why do you think they banned you but didn't remove your comments?
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-31
This is good!
1 toomuchpork 2018-01-31
Site admins should take care of it. Every post has an automotive message:
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
Site admins have said they don't really intervene if a sub doesn't adhere to sitewide rules in the first place.
1 toomuchpork 2018-01-31
That autobot is their bot, their rules.
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
Doesn't necessarily mean they follow it :)
1 toomuchpork 2018-01-31
That's why I say site admins. The mods mods.
1 grndzro4645 2018-01-31
Boy you ruffled some feathers didn't ya.
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
They get away with it because this sub doesn't enforce sitewide rules, which means the admins don't step in. If this sub cleaned it's own house, the admins would actually finally step in an do something about the obvious brigading. Until then, they'll let this place wallow in the mess it's created.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
To which particular rules are you referring?
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
Write the admins and as them yourself. It's how I found out why they don't bother with this sub.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
You are full of shit. You could have just as easily listed one in the time it took you to write that comment.
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
Don't feel like getting banned to be honest. Admins have clearly stated on multiple forums that if the mods on a forum don't enforce sitewide rules that they aren't going to step in and deal with other issues.
If you don't keep your own house clean, don't expect the admins to come and clean it up for you.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
You're going to get banned for listing a sitewide rule that you believe /r/conspiracy doesn't uphold?
Unbelievably full of horseshit.
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
That's fair, but it would be better if they didn't have any excuses wouldn't it?
If you wanna start digging into the rules, start with the site-wide suspension-dodging alts that are allowed here.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
What exactly are the mods supposed to do about that? Report everyone that acts like they're trolling? Mods don't have the power to know who's whom
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
But the admins do, and that's the entire point. When you bring up these obvious accounts to the mods here, they don't do shit, when you report it to the admins they say "we only review ban evasion reports when they are reported by the subreddit moderators" which the mods here won't do because they are protecting certain accounts.
Therein lies the problem, if the mods here actually kept the sub clean, the admins would probably be more willing to step in regarding the obvious brigades.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
Now we're finally getting somewhere. Which kind of accounts are they protecting? Would you like to continue this in PM?
1 real4chanAnon 2018-01-31
I think I've said enough, just keep your eyes open :D
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
I do have some in mind, or at least the types, but wanted to see if our perceptions aligned.
1 of_mendez 2018-01-31
we are winning anyway, good lick with you stuff
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
"We one teh innerwebs!"
1 stakesishigh010 2018-01-31
"we are winning anyway" - that part sounds stupid as fuck.
"good lick with you stuff" - this part makes me think you are on a day pass from the concussion clinic.
go back to TMOR. you are late for the circle jerk strokefest.
1 of_mendez 2018-01-31
At least you are not calling me a bot
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
Absolutely cut-and-dried. Could not be any more obvious.
1 RedTap3 2018-01-31
What is the point of this? You're a mod, some users are going to a dick to you for that. You keep making these post every week now. Maybe you shouldn't be a mod.
1 Xaviermgk 2018-01-31
This goes beyond just being a dick to the mod. It's harassment. Plain and simple.
1 JoeyBulgaria 2018-01-31
I understand why you’re annoyed by what’s going on but man, you’re kinda feeding the trolls with posts like this. I feel like if you want them to stop, stop giving them so much attention
1 stakesishigh010 2018-01-31
but... you are one of them? you yourself... you're a troll so wtf???
i just took a sec to scroll through your keyboard vomit... you're a joke.
1 JoeyBulgaria 2018-01-31
no, this is a joke:
A ham sandwich walks into a bar and asks the bartender for a beer. He says sorry, we don’t serve food here
1 stakesishigh010 2018-01-31
so is this:
Your Father: Honey are you sure though? He doesn't look anything like me?
Your Mother: C'mon dear, you know how many people were at that gang bang. Anyone could be his father. You can only swallow so much.
1 JoeyBulgaria 2018-01-31
Ooh man, you sure got me!!
1 stakesishigh010 2018-01-31
take care of yourself dribble cock. your posts are shit.
1 UnbearablePenguin 2018-01-31
How is that proof of anything? Did you not notice you only had one user agreeing with you? That should tell you something. I'm more suspicious why the upvoted comments were removed.
I've literally never heard anyone claim Russia has fair elections and it's hardly disputed that Putin has had many opponents killed.
1 JoeyBulgaria 2018-01-31
my guess for the downvotes is that OP made a post last week about how he wasn’t gonna post political stuff anymore and focus on being a better mod, then posted something political. That’s what the removed top comment was about anyway, I hope mine doesn’t get removed for bringing it up
1 UnbearablePenguin 2018-01-31
Oh, that's the comment that was removed. That doesn't seem right if they were merely disagreeing.
1 Symbiotx 2018-01-31
Exactly. Several got banned in that thread as well. My comment was removed and they wouldn't respond every time I asked why.
I downvote a lot of posts like his that are clearly partisan politics or trying to discredit anything Russia related. Not because I'm a shill, but because they're garbage posts.
1 realshacram 2018-01-31
Because it's the only way to save a nation from Zionism plague around Western World.
1 murphy212 2018-01-31
Why don’t you post with another account until they calm down with their targetted campaign against the axotl account? You could use this one merely to moderate, another one to post all the good stuff you usually post.
This is not advice I’m giving, as you most obviously thought about this already. I’m genuinely curious why you don’t do it. It couldn’t possibly be because of karma capital, so what is it?
I fear the more you complain about this, the more it emboldens them.
It is quite clear what is going on. Everyone can see it. Personally I don’t need further proof. Remember they were profoundly humiliated recently, so that explains IMO their renewed violence.
1 cristi1990an 2018-01-31
Making try making fewer posts worthy of r/topmindsofreddit
1 stakesishigh010 2018-01-31
maybe go back to TMOR? you are one of them for fuck sake.
1 cristi1990an 2018-01-31
Where do you think I'm coming from?
1 stakesishigh010 2018-01-31
I don't care where you come from. I've read your posts. You are a gleeful antagonist.
I've had you tagged for quite a while and your shit posts rarely disappoint.
1 cristi1990an 2018-01-31
I'm a what?
1 stakesishigh010 2018-01-31
sound it out... I'm not saying I won't help you but I need to feel you've tried.
1 Squirrelboy85 2018-01-31
No shit OP. You're all they talk about.
1 MrScience99 2018-01-31
Do like r/conspiracyundone and ban them.
1 lohan0 2018-01-31
They can and do through rule 11.
I've looked at Conspiracy Undone, they have a big problem with calling people shills and then banning them, which is why this subreddit has rule 10.
1 SyntacticGuess 2018-01-31
The guys over there are mostly lefties and communists. I once thought, at the very beginning when I found TMoR, that they wanted to have a discussion, oh, boy I was wrong.
I managed to get -160 points in just a few hours, with only one posting, so I realized what they are.
They're the most toxic punk´s I've seen on the Internet.
They are only there to celebrate themselves, they do this with so little self awareness that it is painful to read there in a thread.
I can still remember times when Grammar-Nazi were the bottom of society, unfortunately not on Reddit here they have their own page.
1 SixVISix 2018-01-31
I ignore them. This submission only gives them ammo. It's encouragement. The best method of training mentally impaired dogs is by refusing to acknowledge their behaviors until they fall in line. TMoR are just a collection of yeast infections without purpose or value. Don't do anything to justify their unemployed, uneducated existences.
1 QTAnon 2018-01-31
Was this post supposed to accomplish anything besides letting you air your grievances?
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
They are doing it again right now in this very thread. My comments were up to around ten. TMOR has a link to this thread right there on their page. Innocuous comments swung far below zero.
1 bogpiII 2018-01-31
Oh my!
1 ConspiracyAccount 2018-01-31
Following me around back to a nine hour old thread what a loser. Blocked.
1 axolotl_peyotl 2018-01-31
This thread has naturally been targeted and brigaded.
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1 mentionbeinglawyer 2018-01-31
I'm pretty sure that submission statement was so heavily downvoted because you linked to literal Russian propaganda. Not like RT level propaganda, just straight up, obvious and unmasked propaganda. Organic users on this site aren't stupid and they downvoted you for making such a post. That would be my guess as to what happened. Or, I suppose it could be because everyone is out to get you and wants to keep the "truth" from being known.
1 skindoe 2018-01-31
I love how there is never an actual response to the actual argument just weak strawmans, ad Hominems, and deflections like "it's propaganda" or whataboutism.
If it's propaganda then it should be easy to actually address the point made then right? If you attack me or do any of the arguments I made your proving my point.
1 mentionbeinglawyer 2018-01-31
You know, I actually agree with you that people should address things they disagree. That's been my stance with the whole "shill" thing here: it shouldn't matter if people are shills. If their points are bad, argue for why they're bad. So I agree that people should address the point of an OP most of the time.
However, I was simply giving an alternative explanation for why OP's post might have been heavily downvoted. It doesn't require TMOR brigading or whatever.
1 skindoe 2018-01-31
Well first of all TMOR brigading is a fact like it or not and you know this they linked to the thread.
Since when does this sub downvoted things without even reading or addressing this point because "I disagree it must be propaganda"?
1 mentionbeinglawyer 2018-01-31
All the time. People downvote and dismiss pretty much all posts from the Washington Post and things considered MSM without addressing the content. Those threads are always filled with comments about how "WaPo is trash" or the like.
Ditto for RT and zerohedge. People downvote and dismiss.
I agree that people should address the claims in most cases. There are probably a few exceptions for really obvious bullshit, but even in those cases it makes sense to address the claim and show why it's wrong.
But this is different than downvoting. I don't expect people who hate the Washington Post to upvote posts from the Washington Post. Likewise, I don't expect people who think RT is propaganda to upvote posts from RT.
1 IAMN30 2018-01-31
I myself have evidence of harassment.
Personally I think that sub should be shut down as it breaks site wide rules daily.
Contact me if more evidence is required, I have screenshots and links of their terrible behavior.
1 axolotl_peyotl 2018-01-31
Please provide! I think a sticky post on TMOR would be timely and appropriate.
1 obtrae 2018-01-31
You know, there's an anti r/conspiracy post on their side with users backing the original poster the same way that users are doing here with OP. It's so fascinating to sit back and compare the two subs and their similarities. What's up Reddit?
1 notmybloatedsac 2018-01-31
weird I saw this posted somewhere else...who is the harasser? how many posts have you put up about this? is the govt involved? aliens? the govt., aliens and the Red Cross? fucking bastards..time to put an extra layer of Tim foil on, shave the neck beard and get o spamming some more
1 Symbiotx 2018-01-31
Every time a brigade happens, you react by throwing your own posts into stickies or contest mode. Each time it gives your political posts more visibility.
Since this is r/conspiracy I can't help but wonder if there's a conspiracy that you're getting things brigaded by tmor for more visibility and to play the victim.
I'm just entertaining the idea because it seems like you're benefiting from these attacks.
1 skindoe 2018-01-31
Well first of all TMOR brigading is a fact like it or not and you know this they linked to the thread.
Since when does this sub downvoted things without even reading or addressing this point because "I disagree it must be propaganda"?