Was playing Overwatch when a Flat-Earther identified self
0 2018-02-12 by Erock214
I should've screen cap, but was so intrigued. They went something like this, "Hey i'm a flat earther, ama." Of course one or two ppl trolled the person, and slow clap for braving the overwatch match chat, LOL, but can we just take a moment to realize that this belief isn't going anywhere. We need to stop trashing flat-earthers, and really invite them into conversations, so we can undo the spell that's been cast on them. I mean that metaphorically, which magically speaking, is the same as literally. It's not funny anymore, as this movement is embedding itself into the larger conspiracy umbrella, by design I'd argue, and trolling or shaming these individuals is not, never was, the answer. How do you contend with people who refuse to believe anything set with institutional authority, such as NASA? Point to these areas and if your flat earther is a real person(not a bot), should reply with interest: The map of the sky is divided into north and south hemispheres, because the sphere we live on rotates counter clockwise, and the stars enveloping our view, spin clockwise. Some constellations are only visible at certain points at certain times depending on where you are. Ancient Greek Eratosthenes ,mathematician, measured shadows in two different locales, same longitude, and calculated with great accuracy, the circumference of the earth. Going up really high and saying, well it looks flat, so empirically, the world is flat, is not a valid point. We are tiny specks, we are smaller than ants compared to our globe earth, and if the world was truly flat, then you'd really see the other side of the world, and wouldn't look straight/flat at all. It'd be hell really. For instance, our human eyes are capable to see beyond the horizon, and because we don't see huge continents across the oceans, we can safely agree, the world is round. I know ppl think this shouldn't even be a thing, discussing with ease why the world IS NOT FLAT, but you do these people a great disservice by shaming them. The dangers of our time really, that our minds are capable of being literally flattened out, but in a digital age where ppl can consume loads of media, is the real danger. What kind of media do you consume, because the same effect is happening to you. Be kind, we're all fighting some battle. Flat Earthers, the real ones, the people not in on the scam, will only resist shame and fight trolls, rather than understanding actual facts.
47 comments
1 rvnender 2018-02-12
I met a flat earther at a party with my girlfriend.
We got talking and her core beliefs are that NASA has lied to us. When I pointed out that we have known the earth is round for the better part of two thousand years she basically called me brain washed.
She had zero factual evidence that the round was flat other than the usual "NASA lied to us" and a level is leveled in an airplane bullshit.
I laughed at her and walked away.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
LOL. Facepalm
Were other ppl asking her questions?
1 rvnender 2018-02-12
Late 20s to mid 30s. It was a restaurant party, so the youngest person there was the hostess who was probably 20.
This girl was 24, self proclaimed feminist and anti vaxxer (who has no kids, thank god).
I was the outsider to this, being the boyfriend. There were a few other people like me, but I was the more interested one since I also believe in listening to both sides of the argument. But when one side is "we have facts try to prove them wrong" and the other side is "well those facts bullshit and we have zero proof as to how" then it's kinda hard to not laugh in their face.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Yeah I know what you mean. Unfortunately, I haven't met anyone whose open about it. I'd really take my time, and a party situation is less than ideal, so I don't blame you ><
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-02-12
please dont conflate flat earthers with anti-vaxxers. 2 completely different conspiracies that have nothing to do with each other. one being completely ridiculous, the other as serious as neurological toxicity and worse.
1 rvnender 2018-02-12
Oh I'm not.
They're 2 different things but both equally crazy
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-02-12
oh ok, so you're just one of them, i get it. cool man.
1 rvnender 2018-02-12
One of what?
1 mastigia 2018-02-12
Flat earth is a psyop. It is designed to make our community look stupid. If you are participating in it, then you are assisting the deep state.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Agreed.
1 schmickler83 2018-02-12
And if round earth is the psyop? Then you would be assisting the deep state by that logic. Since it doesn't look close to being proven, it is a coin toss.
1 beaver_shots 2018-02-12
Ever play chess with a pigeon? It doesn't matter how great you are at chess the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces and shit on the board.
Engaging with FE people is pointless.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Fun analogy, lol
1 Smiley_Iris 2018-02-12
.....I once lost to a pigeon.
1 DenverBoy1337 2018-02-12
Flat earth theory is wrong because
It’s not flat earth theory
It’s geocentric model of the universe
Everybody and their mother wants to have an opinion and will do so in unconscious efforts of ego aggrandization
In reality most people know shit about geocentric model of the world
Flat earthers are screwing themselves and getting stomped flat by identifying with a silly name
If flat earth theory is according to them based on real empiracle ovservational measurable science
Start by fixing the title
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Whats wrong with my title? They contend that the earth is flat.
1 op-return 2018-02-12
Let me tell you one thing. Every person who is a "flat-earther" at some point wans't. What does that tell you?
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Whenever I bring up these specific points, the FE always avoids, ignores, or circumvents around it, effectively dodging them. Please answer these points of contention: Can you debunk two separate shadows in two different points, separated by hundreds or more miles, along the same longitude, and having different shadow lengths, AS one would expect on a sphere Earth. Can you debunk the fact, that people in the north hemisphere experience the night sky differently than the south? I'll stop there....To answer your question, that " Every person who is a "flat-earther" at some point wans't. What does that tell you?" That doesn't tell anything, people change their mind all the time. We even edit our memories as we go, remembering things differently each time a memory is recalled.
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-02-12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bol8vZ7pcu8
This answers both. The lens all the lights snine down through distorts the night sky based on perspective.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
lol, it's worst than right wing propaganda, "I don't know what to call this angle(hypotenuse), so I'm going to call it, the angle of deception." Wow, I'm gna finish this video, for argument's sake. But don't you think it's a bit BIASED? lol. I'm half way through it, and they prove themselves wrong, and then tell you it's ok, they know why, and proceed to shit on Eratosthenes' experiment, while getting it wrong in the first place.
1 DenverBoy1337 2018-02-12
Don’t talk out of your ass (ego) this isn’t about you or the other person , it’s about truth
Who knows
1 op-return 2018-02-12
Alright dude.. I'll just do one. I'm not going to spoon feed you, specially when i know you'll act like my 2 year old when I try to feed her eggs in the morning.
Oh yes! The good old Eratosthenes test.
Enjoy. (I'm pretty sure you'll exit the video 30 seconds in, but hey...what do I care.)
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Don't presume to know me, we're both complete strangers. I've watched lots of FE videos, and still not convinced. I'm convinced it's a devious psy-op, and the fact that it's gaining momentum breaks my fucking heart.
1 op-return 2018-02-12
Lol. 👌
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Oh man, you want the world to be flat, lol. Good luck, I'm sorry you have kids.
1 op-return 2018-02-12
I dont want anything. I follow the truth no matter how uncomfortable. And I won't tell her about it. I'd rather she remained a dumb blue pilled moron just like you. It's easier that way. It's difficult to know the truth. It really is. Specially when surrounded by a sea of dipshits.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
So angry. Probably the root of your belief system. I watched your video, it's garbage. Same old FE tactics, you basically shit on everything that was ever taught and provide no alternative, except that the world is flat. You think I'm blue pilled? lol, posting on r/conspiracy? You should meditate, or if you truly believe our world is special, constituting a unique plane(flat object) unobserved anywhere else in the universe, than you'd be open to magical systems and operations? Learn how to break this spell that confines your mind...IMO, you're probably raging against the machine and this somehow appeals to you. Or, another likely story, you're just a bot, programmed to reinforce the Flat Earth fallacy, strengthen it, regurgitate it.
Peace be upon you -Zenyatta
1 op-return 2018-02-12
K.
1 schmickler83 2018-02-12
Once you question the spinning ball earth theory, there is no turning back. Every flat earther once believed in the globe. I have yet to hear of someone who legitimately looks into it and concludes there is nothing to it.
1 saphiresheen 2018-02-12
I legitimately looked into and found out it's false, and a psyop meant to confuse people.
1 bartfutt 2018-02-12
Guy was probably just trying to get the enemy team focused on the chat and not the game.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
I was the enemy team, we won. Idk, maybe, lol.
1 bartfutt 2018-02-12
Just my guess.
I will occasionally say stupid things to get them typing instead of playing :p
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Well they were def on the def set up and we were still waiting for the doors to unlock at Junkertown.
1 bartfutt 2018-02-12
It could have been a rare flat Earther in the wild, I just actually had some expertise to share so I felt like I should :p
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-02-12
Flat earth isn't going anywhere because it's the truth. Yes the entire world is brainwashed by Luciferian elites who want you to be agnostic or atheist so they created this lie 500 years ago. Nobody can be convinced of it, you have to be willing to consider it could be true and do your experiments. Good luck breaking free of their illusion!
1 Smiley_Iris 2018-02-12
Its just one giant hexahedron.
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-02-12
Anything but a wet spinning ball rocket in "outer space."
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
Have you done any experiments yourself???
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-02-12
Of course. You think I wanted to become a flat earther?? I was exactly like you.
1 op-return 2018-02-12
I know EXACTLY how you feel. (hugs)!
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-02-12
Haha yeah we all already ate our crow. It is so worth it though!
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
I doubt it. And tbh, I'll take FE seriously when they can demonstrably prove it is not spherical. There's a small list that I posted with, debunk those if you can. Shadow experiment, map of the night sky, the curvature of the earth and human line of sight.
1 Erock214 2018-02-12
I'm neither agnostic nor atheist, so what then?
1 D0ctahG 2018-02-12
This is the right approach. Mostly to become more knowledgeable about the idea itself. It's hard to learn anything when you are shouting down all the time.
1 jacktherer 2018-02-12
we need to start building these
https://www.google.com/patents/US8960595
theyre simple and if we can get one in every home then there would be no flat earthers cuz they couls fly up into space and see the world for themselves
1 Svro 2018-02-12
But we live on an eyeball http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pmyigWqcM5Q/S6VyNFRy8aI/AAAAAAAAAM4/tFJOgIjK9Tw/s320/gnosticism.jpg
1 YoshiTakimatsui 2018-02-12
I have a friend who believes it and doesn't even make a cent off Adsense revenue it's sad. I mean I figure most flat earth YouTubers are in it for the adsense revenue and it might be the main reason why its propagated by Google so much, it generates clicks. All you have to do to make your own content is to upload picture from space and comment how fake it looks and you get almost 100,000 views for whatever reason. Flat earth content making people money is the main reason it isn't going to go away.
1 therealsquirrel95 2018-02-12
oh ok, so you're just one of them, i get it. cool man.