It's like the entire United States is collectively dedicated to the ruination of the country, and from the outside, it looks very much like suicide.

That's the problem, you're on the outside.

As an insider, there is a war going on, and lots of people are waking the fuck up, questioning everything, no longer buying into the bullshit, no longer watching CNN, no longer buying into the debt/wage/slave system like the older generations.

Because so many are waking up, its causing growing pains.

You'd think. But try to say anything positive about gun rights online and get ready for an avalanche of criticism. That's not the MSM. That's the online voice. And they are very vocal that they want guns taken away.

Or maybe you've been propagandized to believe that.

Exactly. If it was working so well for Britain or France, we'd know. Yet all we know is acid attacks are up. Knife attacks are up. Islam is up. Women staying in their homes after dark is up.

Fuck. That. Shit.

Globalism, multiKulti is a lie.

Block your ears and eyes from these charletons.

Thank you. OP is an outsider. We are fighting for our lives. The outsiders are already dead so far as I'm concerned. Dead. Men. Walking.

I'm a migrant to this country, brought here by my parents. When we became citizens I took an oath. And the older I become the more I realize that the original tenants, despite the modern perversions, are ultimately true as far as life on THIS realm is concerned.

Anyone taking advice from the French or British or Belgians in regards to ANYTHING related to preserving ones culture or way of life needs to seriously reconsider what they believe.

The entire world relies on our armed forces yet decries this nation for being too gung ho. And when we say we'll leave the Paris accord or NATO or whatever else agreement, they lambast us for absconding.

I've had enough. I swore an allegiance to THIS nation, not the one that my family realized forsook us, not the ones that seek to keep the USA under their pathetic guilt trip.

I'm sorry. But at this point - take care of your own, stand your ground, and may God be with you. But fuck the fuck off, giving us advice related to what you've done AS A NATION - wherever you are OP - your nation is doomed to cuckoldry and doom, with no chance of survival.

You're welcome to try and change my mind but I assume you're from Europe or perhaps South America in which case yeah....I don't think you have ANYTHING developed in the last 350 years that we need - as far as technology, philosophy, or way of life are concerned.

Bye.

Excellent post, 100% agreed.

The outsiders see MSM and they believe the lies, then come here and ask us if we are okay, lol

The rest of the world sees MSM on us and trump and quivers in fear - BEGGING to be "led" into the slaughter by someone like Trudeau. Id laugh if it wasn't so sad. They need to wake up and smell the lack of lead and brass in their closets. And the smell of acid melting flesh in their alleyways.

The entire world relies on our armed forces yet decries this nation for being too gung ho.

Wtf man, no it doesn't. Realize that YOUR nation is the one causing/instigating most wars in this world.

lol let's see how Germans react if we decide to pull our bases out.

We effectively subsidize the need for the EU to have a standing army of any significance- making it easier for them to pay for other social services

Each EU member state has plenty of army.

Secondly, EU doesn't do aggression wars so no need for a standing (central) army.

What planet do you live on. Compare spending. You have little units that would be ordered to stand down. Europe is actively being invaded by Northern African and Arabic tribes - and the EU troops will only gun native Europeans down if they object. And you have no ability to object, anyways. Like I said. What planet are you on, the EU is fighting a war of aggression on its own supposed constituents by replacing them with migrant hoards. 💁🏿‍♂️

Europe is actively being invaded by Northern African and Arabic tribes - and the EU troops will only gun native Europeans down if they object.

Well apparently I live on quite a different planet that you, because that statement is just ridiculous. And yes I live in EU and f.ex. in Spain in Madrid they have a big banner in the central square saying 'Refugees Welcome'....

So you see "refugees welcome" and think it disproves my point? They aren't refugees.

Of course they're refugees you fucking idiot armchair general.

Refugees from what? They just know your nation will pay them more to look sad than they could honestly earn in their home nations. They're all men too, if you hadn't noticed. Only ones in real danger now are Libyans being sold as slaves by other africans and arabs so who do you even know which ones you're letting in? What a joke.

Youth unemployment in your country is out of control and the government decides that the answer is more Africans. How nice!

I never said that Spain is my country. However in Spain youth unemployment is not out of control, most work in the black market. You can prove anything with statistics and unemployment statistics are notorius for being manipulative.

"its not out of control....most work in the black market...." ok you're useless to try and reason with. If MOST are working in the black market, it is by definition out of control. you step on your own feet with every step you take.

The point is that they're not out of a job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpgbOUKAcSg This is what an invasion looks like, and this is what Spanish cuckoldry looks like.

You're insane. 30 starving Africans in a dinghy is hardly an 'invasion'.

You're insane if you think those africans are starving. and to think its the only boat. They've each payed good money to make it there. Please don't be so naive as to think every african is starving. wow. Why are they all men.................. "leave the women and children behind! Men and men first!" seems to be their mantra. Terrible if you ask me. what kind of blinders are you wearing?

The parts of your argument which have merit tie back to the soft civil war thats currently occurring in this country. The warmongering factions that demand we bow down to Israel's interests over our own are what keep us embroiled in these false and unjust wars. I don't want to waste money protecting sand dunes, or Europe - and neither do most Americans at this point. But we will face a global lambasting if we were to decide to stop "standing up" for rights that the rest of you lost only bring up if someone else pays for it.

no, I don't think that's it at all

Dude, Im here. People who thought I was crazy because all my water is reverse osmosis filtered, I dont eat meat, and the I stayed away from MSM news and cord cutter, are all now saying I was right all along and they are following suit.

I go to the grocery store, and literally see people reading the labels and putting items back saying things like, "no this one has benzoate in it, or this one has high fructose corn syrup".

I have nephews that are 12-13 asking me if I saw loose change or heard what alex jones said, and so on. Its a massive awakening going on against the system

I think you guys are suffering from poverty

sure poverty has always been here, and yes that too is increasing, as the rich get richer. All pat of "their" plan

and a lack of education

The idiocracy is global. I went and visited Japan, China, Europe, and India when I took a year off. In each of those areas, there are certain % of populace who is educated from University, but they actually have ZERO critical thinking skills

and your country is dying.

Germany, France, Italy, Greece, Sweden is also dying.

I agree with most of what you say, except that I think the majority of the younger generations are thinking less critically than in the past

I disagree, a lot of the younger kids I know within my family and their friends, are so much more conscious, intuitive, and intelligent than what me and my friends were at our age. Of course, the same old sleep walkers also exist as usual

and that Alex Jones is inconsequential and very much a part of mainstream culture, not something outside of it.

He may be hated here and a psy op or whatever the haters say about him, but when I was new to all this, he was massive for me as an entry point on what to look into and read

It's so bizarre to read this sub and see how some sections of America think of Trump as anything other than the prime example of the idiocracy.

I'm an ex-democrat (life long and left 2 years ago) and I have warmed up to him. I think the "him being an idiot narrative" is just the MSM play, and I have been on both ends of the debate with this topic. However, my conclusion is that even if he was what you propose, to me its the Joker card in the Tarot, and bug Fuck You to the whole Political system which I think is completely necessary.

Regardless, your take on Trump represents the MSM fake narrative to outsiders, and yet here we are, half the country voted for him, many were also independents and democrats

I agree those countries are in trouble (along with most of the rest of the world) but I'd say America is further along the path of self destruction, unfortunately.

I disagree.

I actually think the gun problem is intractable on its own. You can't get rid of them now, and they are destroying you.

Guns are illegal in Mexico, and they have massive amount of murders.

The problem here is mental psychological, cultural, economic, etc. Its not as simple as to blame guns. Those same "Guns" freed us from being U.K.'s bitch. Those same "guns" were used in the Civil war where tons of Americans died for the rights of minorities.

In both cases, without guns, we could have still been England Part 2 where slavery is still legal or was still legal up until maybe a handful of decades ago.

My take on it: I think the idiocracy is global, people in general are just stupid as fuck, and we need to be focused on a set of evolutionary based principals, including genetically modifying humans, so we start to get more intelligent, more aware, more balanced in nature.

If the side effect of taking truth pills causes you exhaustion and sickness, I’d say that you’re still working things out. Keep your eyes, ears, and heart open. BTW, where do you hail from?

I think you're a little confused. BBC did a nice layman's article. Enjoy, and mazel!

I do appreciate your thoughtful replies, by the way. I'm just exhausted and sickened by what I read in this sub generally

I'm actually numb to the school shooting and it really didnt effect me much, because I grew up in Chicago, where on the South Side, the black kids/gangs shoot and kill each other every weekend, with an average of 30+ murders a month. This is in a city where gins have been illegal and so on.

I have also been to Japan, where there are no guns and no one is armed, besides police units.

A large portion of this is culture. Japan is predominately Japanese with a completely different cultural values to the U.S. and so, they don't need guns there. At the same time, it would be very easy for some tyrannical style dictator (Duterte Style?) to start taking over the people and no one would do anything.

I'm guessing it would be the same for your country as well?

Also stuff like this:

https://news.stanford.edu/2014/07/16/voices-culture-luhrmann-071614/

Stanford anthropologist Tanya Luhrmann found that voice-hearing experiences of people with serious psychotic disorders are shaped by local culture – in the United States, the voices are harsh and threatening; in Africa and India, they are more benign and playful. This may have clinical implications for how to treat people with schizophrenia, she suggests.

Anyway, its REALLY complex. I am also of the school of the collective consciousness, i.e your posts "Hive Mind" concept. You have to understand, the soil here is drenched with the blood and memories of the civil war, where the country was split because of slavery and fought and died for a resolution.

This all after fighting a revolution, and prior to that, stealing land from the Natives and the Mexicans.

All of this Pent up Death, division, war, revolutions, wild wild west, is all still here in the Hive Mind, however it has been for the most part, put in check by the rules and laws of checks and balances via the constitution. Having guns is one of those reasons. When everyone has guns, no one is willing to try a take over.

Of course this lets the crazies shoot up schools and what not.

Anyway, I think the biggest joke is that everyone is globally making a big deal about the school shooting, but twice to 3 times that amount of teens and young adults get killed each month in gang shootouts in the South Side of Chicago for decades and no one says or does anything.

But then again, there was a genocide in Africa in the mid 90's and no one ever told me about it, nothing in school, no memorials, tv specials, nothing. I only found out about it when studying the history of Genocides in general, jewish and armenian

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26875506

And it's a moot point anyway because those millions of guns aren't going anywhere. You've doomed yourselves and your guns will outlast your country. It's interesting that your responses have neglected to address the issue of gun saturation.

Sure there is gun saturation, but not "everyone has a gun" as you suggest. There are rules, laws, checks and balances that shift and change according to the times, politicians, states, and so on.

Regardless, even if guns were banned and not as saturated, I still think there would be school shootings here due to the black market, importation, the ability to DIY builds, and or the use of other items like using a vehicle or truck to run over students. (what are we gonna do, ban all cars?)

Australia also has its own threats/conspiracies

https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/canada-and-likely-australia-are-still-politically-and-judicially-controlled-england/33053

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2100798/should-australia-fear-influx-chinese

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695967/South-China-Sea-dispute-Australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_Japanese_invasion_of_Australia_during_World_War_II

You guys are hardly safe. Regardless of how you explain away the above links, the bottom line is there are people there, banks, money, and resources. Which means, someone, somewhere already has eyes and plans for you guys, and there are already certain folks within your country, controlling your banks, your government, and the future of your own collapse. This is what having guns is supposed to help fight against

but this just comes across as xenophobic paranoia.

That comment comes across someone who lives in a bubble, and is scared to do any research or consider future possibilities and geopolitics.

The "xenophobia" label is usually used as a misdirection defense mechanism, to call someone by this label in order to have an exit out of a debate.

Its a miserable fail. Notice I could have said the same about your OP, but never did

That's definitely a fair call on the xenophobia

Its not a fair call. Xenophobia lately, is being used by SJW's as a tactic to label someone unfairly, if they are discussing something that is deemed offensive to the labeler, in this case you.

but the majority of Australia got over the 'Asian invasion' alarmism in the 90's, and despite certain senators attempting to stoke those fears again we are generally more circumspect these days.

Well the Asian invasion in the form of Owning U.S. Debt, Buying out Hollywood Studios, and demanding permission of how Chinese are viewed in any Hollywood movies, certainly proves that it's happening at the corporate level. I haven't even done that much research, but I guarantee you there are aspects of AUS that are bought out and owned by the Chinese.

By the way, I criticize everything: Islam, Christianity, my own country (The U.S.), race, Israel, Russia, U.K. and so on. I have the right to criticize these things, and that doesn't make me Xenophobic. Have you guys in AUS also been on the SJW safe space special snowflake kick as well?

Yes, we know foreign investment is driving up our house prices

And, there it is. Of course!!!! LOL

and the current government is profiteering off the selling of public infrastructure to the international private sector,

DING DING DING, we have another winner!!!

but no Australian would ever connect that to fantasies of violent insurrection

Of course not, you guys will just get slowly bought out, owned, and priced out of sections of your own country, and forced to move elsewhere like is happening in S.A.

At the very least, the U.S. is Half Nationalist, so we are aware and conscious of making change to prevent these things or bring them to light to change them.

Your gun situation is absurd and fucking terrifying.

No its not. I have foreign family members (Poland) and friends from Norway, Japan, and other countries have visited and stayed with me and enjoyed their time here. 2 of them are working on getting a Visa to come here and work/live here permanently. One of my cousins and his Japanese wife and daughter, have already gotten their visa, liver here permanently, and love it here.

Your Australian Media I'm guessing is owned by the same Propaganda Leftist outlets as here, so they lie to you, and you eat it up dont you, lol

It astounds me that any thinking American can possibly argue otherwise.

You literally live in another country, in a bubble, with the media lying to you, and it astounds me you have the nerve to tell me how my country is, lol.

The real horror of it all is the simplicity of it: you have too many guns in your country.

You guys have not enough guns, and all it takes is 1 tyrant or a communist coming into power in your country, to really show you people how bad and how many deaths of citizens can come from the control of your country by 1 man.

"go to the grocery store, and literally see people reading the labels and putting items back saying things like, "no this one has benzoate in it, or this one has high fructose corn syrup"

I saw a Trisquit commercial tonight that actually said they were not genetically modified. Like,the whole commercial was about being GMO free.

I took the fact that they saw that as a good marketing ploy means the demand for GMO free foods is growing exponentially.

I saw a Trisquit commercial tonight that actually said they were not genetically modified. Like,the whole commercial was about them being GMO free.

Chipotle used to that, then, all of a sudden, they started getting people sick with salmonella in various locations and lost a shit load of business. I think that was the GMO industry planting the bacteria though

I thought the same thing. They were being targeted. But I'm starting to notice GMO free labels on more and more products. Corporations will go with what makes them money over anything else, and I think the populace is starting to force the demand.

CNN gives you no sense of perspective.

Keep you "outside" thoughts to yourself

Smells like.... Someone is jealous

that is because americans are physically and mentally ill

Go to an American baseball game. We are great when we get along. Just not great when we disagree.

I don’t think it’s suicide. Ppl are overwhelmed with constant psyop attacks to the point that it’s just survival mode. Everyday we read how elected puppets undermine, mislead and rob the country. We see arrests and reports of massive pedophilia and there is no outcry! We look outside our borders and most are still worse off, many bec Corporatists have commandeered US military for their own agenda. No, it’s abuse of the citizenry, from constitutional rights to overt police brutality to open surveillance state. The country is being dismantled and the citizens disabled long ago.

The US never had a hive mind - I don't think you know what the term means. And despite what the US is going through, they're better positioned than most countries in the world. The media is making things worse than they are.

It's b/c we're a Christian nation. It's in the end of the book... Global war, poverty, disease... All signs that the end is nigh. It's a good thing remember. It means their messaiah is about to make their heaven on Earth.

There's these guys who adamantly believe that the end game goal is for there to be a great war to end all wars. We all die in horrendous ways. This is the goal. These are the men that we put in charge of our foreign relations, and give control of our military, and the keys of our nukes to.

Let's put the guys who want to see the ship go down in a blaze of glory in control of the ship. That's a wonderful idea, what could possibly go wrong. We've been it for a good one to two hundred years, but somehow we're still here, and floating on¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That comes off like I hate Christianity, but good people don't seize power. The good Christians are being good Christians, while the devil owned Christians are making money off of war in a false God they have built to justify their imperialism. It's a slippery slope condemning religion. It varies so much from person to person.

Nationalism is kind of fucking tiresome.

You know there are Americans creating loving homes and a hopeful future everyday.

Unfortunately these people exist in spite of the oligarchy at the top of the long-infiltrated. corruption soaked government.

American "freedom" was not guarded with vigilance.

Information was compartmentalized over time.

Alien interests were allowed incremental beachheads in the halls of the American power.

Education was weaponized against the majority of people.

Having learned from the mistakes of the past Empires, programs were begun by deep planners against the people.

The USA was never intended to be the cliche sold to its consumers.

The greatest threat to the American oligarchy is the American people.

It's apoptosis. Artificial apoptosis of a nation's people, and their psyche.

You forgot: Your torture programs, Your global black prison network, Your extraordinary rendition, Your Disposition Matrix (kill list), Your 1000+ army bases, Your endless wars of agression, Your dystopian 3-letter agencies, jeezz I could go on...

Well all the 5 eyes countries (and a bunch more) are complicit for sure, but of course USA is the main instigator.

I think you were right on the money..

Of course they're refugees you fucking idiot armchair general.