Why the weird kids are weird.

43  2018-02-26 by LuckOnMars

What Nikolas Cruz did is beyond awful. He will get what he deserves, whatever that is. But if we don't start to recognize that the weird ones matter, that being odd is as much a character flaw as having Gender Dysphoria, that is, not a flaw at all, if it stays cool and normal to keep teasing them, their hatred will always grow and grow. Not everyone is born just like you, some people have autism, some people have trauma. They can't help it. I have 2 brothers with autism and I have seen first hand the cruelty. This isn't sympathy for the devil. As a Floridian this whole thing is very real... We need to leave kids that are having a hard time as it is alone at the very least, but more so, try to help them. I can’t even tell you what it felt like to have my brother called “Retard Rob” every day, I am sure it was 10 times worse for him. That’s pretty fucked up when you think about it. It’s like we go “Hey, this guy was born with the shit end of the stick, so let’s take it out and stab him with it.“ It’s our kill the weak culture. We don’t care about them until the weak start to kill us. We as a race are starting to understand each other so much better in the last 5 years, I feel like the differences in our minds is one of the last frontiers after the gender revolution. I hope that soon we will start to care about why the weird kids are weird. Thank you.

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There needs to be more empathy and more respect for individual idiosyncrasies and less alienation. People are being pushed to the edge until they can't take life anymore. They're provoked and their buttons are pushed until they can't take it anymore. I don't know what the solution is but I don't think the solution is in for-profit institutions who prescribe drugs and pretend to care about you when they really just want you out of the way of normal society. People need to start actually giving a shit about the weird people, but not in a fake way.

Therapy and coping mechanisms help a bunch with almost any mental illness and some of the medication is extremely helpful when given to someone who actually requires it.

Empathy is also a key factor. Displaying to someone that you understand them and their situation/being there for support is such a vital act most people withhold from those most in need.

The world is such shit. Everyone is so frustrated with their day to day lives that picking on another person is a quick pleasure center release and makes them feel better in the short term. Then that leads to a frequent need to pump yourself up a bit.

Yes...the black sheep if you will, the square pegs, the crestfallen and those who fell thru the cracks; theres no good reason they are forgotten....but we will always forget some unfortunately. I think of "us" as an archetype; we exist to not exist, to fulfill a past life karmic debt perhaps? Our best hope is a miraculous good luck break...it's not unheard of y'know!

The goal is to see the God (and the good) in others

Nature is inherently cruel.

We have evolved past natural selection in a lot of ways... are transgendered just God’s way of saying “no breeding”? Maybe be that sure as hell isnt what we should be thinking. Are retards supposed to eaten because they would’ve been a thousand years ago? Maybe. But not in 2018. Having sympathy for some and not for others is completely wrong, and we all need to step up. Thank you.

Have we?

Jordan Peterson questions what we learned from Nazi Germany and relates it to a discovery by Jane Goodall.

https://youtu.be/a4gMAFtKCg8?t=1m50s

Context please? What’s this I clicked I don’t get it I’m sorry

Your claim is that we’ve evolved past cruelty. Science says otherwise.

I don’t give a fuck man I’m tired all I can say is that we are not evolved past fruity but we are always being watched by not just big daddy government but by each other big name actors can’t say things like there’s a difference between sexual assault and sexual assault I don’t give a fuck man I’m tired all I can say is that we are not evolved past fruity but we are always being watched by not just big daddy government but by each other big name actors can’t say things like there’s a difference between types of sexual assault and that causes out rage so it’s impossible to talk it’s impossible to be cruelIt’s better to be fucking silent these days so have we evolved past cruelty only in that we expect the world to be cruel or to us when we are cruel or even when we mean well. This is a very hard place to be right now and I’m glad to be here to watch you change see what happens and make the best of it thank you

Reruns

It’s another sub ninja is that somehow not cool to want more people to see

Not directed to you, directed to token edgelord spreading mall satanism

Oh ok

I prefer to think it's indifferent not cruel

Probably

Cruelty is a human judgment. Also, a human tendency too often excused.

Do you believe Cruz could do it? Do you think your brothers with autism could carry this out? Cruz walked out of the building without getting caught. How was it even possible? There were swats and deputies and police officers from other counties when students were let out. He likely had a mask and vest and helmet in the duffle bag and clothes to change. After shooting, he took them off and hid in the bag and disguised as a student. Yeah, that sounds like Jame Bond type killer job. Conveniently, there is no video footage, there is no explanation how he walked out.

Of course he did it what else do you think happened like 17 teachers pull that guns and shot kids in the head and then each other yeah he did it

Wow such an open mind. And condescending to boot. Here's an alternate explanation: a different person did it...

Ok then a different person did it. I don’t care.

I'm just saying you were pretty condescending w/o knowing the story, and made it sound like an alternative explanation would have to be absurd. I'm stressed out right now tho so I'm sorry.

What’s the story? Please inform me. I don’t know all of it. But I was right down the road

I don't have the story, was just offering another angle, which I think is totally plausible. I don't currently believe this one was a conspiracy I just think it's important to keep all the possibilities on the table. I can tell we are on different wavelengths about conspiracy but in my world the FBI is totally capable of being behind something like this.

I think people shoot people man I think people shoot people. It may help the NRA as people buy more guns when there is fear but people do you shoot people and it’s not always something that’s a conspiracy it just happens naturally

Ok. As I mentioned I don't think this one was a conspiracy. Currently. The obvious alternative to that would be that it's 'natural,' so yes I am very much considering that possibility as well.

I said the FBI is capable of something like this. And I wouldn't be surprised if it was them, or the CIA. I think you should be open to those possibilities.

I'm guessing he jumped over a fence and walked away. All of this talk of securing schools with metal detectors and security is just more coddling of the people. It only takes a minute to hop a chain link fence with a gun. There goes security.

Counterpoint: I was the weird kid, years ago. Black trench coat, artistic, high anxiety, you name it.

If anyone had enabled and helped me keep these character flaws, I would never have outgrown them.

Much of our personality when that young is temporary and just the misfirings of puberty. We should not work to cement kids into that state.

That’s different

Not really. By validating passing phases, you're putting supportive emphasis on retaining and repeating actions and ideologies.

I knew this type of person in many forms. They still get spoken of as one of the kids from our school which might have went off and done something bad. It is naive to expect children to understand this world enough that they will know to help these kinds of people. That just isn't going to happen when the kid is purposely drawing back from society. Hell most adults can't do that.

I did in fact read an interesting theory somewhere on the web (can't find it now) that said that one of the problems with this stuff is actually suppressing bullying.

Because you see, a loser male gets picked on and made fun of-- but at some point he WILL be having a bad day and he WILL snap. When he snaps, he strikes back against the bully. And presto-change-o ... no longer a loser male. Instant status jump. Everyone wins.

Now teachers and shrinks intervene and our lowest-of-the-low status male literally has NO way to ascend the heirarchy. He sinks lower and lower and eventually it's Columbine or Florida.

For the record (and why this stuck with me), that was my pattern. Really bad day. Tormentor pushed wrong button, and I said to hell with it and went for him. And I was instantly "integrated" into the high school society at large.

It's hard for me to listen to the kids parading around getting famous off the deaths of these kids.

The blonde girl had old bullying tweets making fun of the outcasts at school and where they sit and now she's a poster child for justice.

We reap what we sow, but maybe not on a personal level as I’m sure none of these kids did anything that bad to this person individually. “The human race: at once the victim and the victimizer, forever at odds with itself, never quite comfortable in their own skin.” We reap what we collectively sow. The universe keeps score I believe.

Ya I know I'm in no way saying any one would deserve this I matter what they did....I'm just irritated because these kids are trying to act like a moral compass and in truth it seems like they were little asshoels.

I don't believe there's ever been a time in America when kids were bullied less, or gun ownership was less.

Even for the real shootings, and not these "fbi done goofed"/"drill" shootings, I don't think bulllying or gun ownership is the issue.

No man. Not even close. The SSRI’s?

Anti-depressants like Prozac are SSRIs

That’s really interesting. I’ll have to think about it when I’m sober

Are you sober yet?

Yes

The SSRI’s are given to help with depression of being caged with being that make your life hell for reasons you have no control of. I don’t know if they help but I don’t think they are causing this. I’ve taken an SSRI before, didn’t really do anything. If there was a drug that I’d say made me angry it would be aderall.

Kid probably just needed a girls attention. It's sad indeed

My brother found one.

Good for him?

Yes I was very surprised but they are happy.

We’ve been removed from what’s really important - spiritually enriching relationships, environments, and activities.

Not to mention our institutions have been corrupted

They tend not to matter as much if you have a good group of friends, family, and a reverence for the source of life.

I don’t have these in not allowed to family sucks bro for a lot of us

So you’re all too familiar with just how significant healthy relationships are.

Yes I am but that doesn’t mean that I have them dude

Dude, I still draw warmth from my grandma who passed away fifteen years ago.

I have never met either of My grandmothers my grandfathers deadly other grandpa does it screw my dad is psychopath my Mother’s Day sweetheart it’s a baked it but the psychopath to my brothers are artistic I’m in alcoholic the other one of my brothers hates me and my sister is good

Unfortunately self worth is learned during adolescence and acquiring it as an adult is a tough task. A lot of people go through life without feeling valued and it leads to some really self destructive tendencies. It’s a sad cycle.

I’m getting there

I have self worth. I just have situation you couldn’t understand. I promise.

So can anyone point me in the direction of a legitimate article which explains why, of all the disabilities that exist, autism seems to be the one which is basically considered universally PC to bully? It is something that has always bothered me, and even if someone is professionally diagnosed with it, it is like the shining beacon for bullies and psychopaths like a bug zapper to flies?

Probably because it’s an almost invisible illness. They walk around like everyone else, it’s just the up close and personal they fail at. “The imaginary disease”

While that is certainly true, I have literally seen people call someone "autistic" whilst bullying them, just the same as calling them "fat," "ugly" etc.

I predict ugly fat autistic shooters in the future. If people don’t stop being assholes people that already have it back thetee fucked. Mark my words.

Unfortunately self worth is learned during adolescence and acquiring it as an adult is a tough task. A lot of people go through life without feeling valued and it leads to some really self destructive tendencies. It’s a sad cycle.

I can really get behind this sentiment OP, thanks for voicing this out

No problem man, I’m Charles, I’m a writer. I hope I can find more thing to write about. Right now I am more interested in indulging my own self destructive tendencies.

Well said, and sorry about your brother. People need to learn to live and let live. We should all encourage and look out for each other regardless of our opinions or beliefs. This is why the divide and conquer strategy works so well, it's easy to play people against each other. If we come together as one we have a lot harder time being controlled.

http://awakeningforums.com/thread/97/science-proven-group-meditation-changes

http://awakeningforums.com/thread/254/studies-collective-benefit-group-meditation

Apathy is the real killer. So many just watch abuse happen and do not get involved. No one sticks up for each other anymore. We had our share of weird kids, but we would tell others to stop.

By middle school and high school, instructors and administration would be telling me and my friends to stop causing a ruckus. We refused and some of us we suspended for sticking up for other kids.

In high school i was told point blank by the Vice principal, "Chivalry is dead."

I responded, "No it is not."

Bullies get away with things because people are conditioned to mind their own business, instead of conditioned to look out for their fellow student.

The culture needs to change. We need to become more vigilant and protective of each other. Not divisive and apathetic. Look out for each other. And just actually give a crap. Give a crap about people.

Well said. I completely agree. Post this to c_s_t

Done.

Thank you.

See you there.

Anti-depressants like Prozac are SSRIs

While that is certainly true, I have literally seen people call someone "autistic" whilst bullying them, just the same as calling them "fat," "ugly" etc.

Not really. By validating passing phases, you're putting supportive emphasis on retaining and repeating actions and ideologies.