I'll admit I got sucked into flat earth for a minute there

How is this even possible?

you research it to try to disprove it like you should. then you find lots of stuff that is hard to explain. then you find out how much THEY lie. then your confused as fuck.

honestly if your not agnostic on the whole subject you are probably wrong.

What's hard to explain about the flat vs round earth?

try looking at it from the point of proving globe earth.... there lots of weird stuff as i'm sure you know.

for example the blue marble.... and how there should be lots of pictures of low earth orbit satellites but there isn't.

i'm not a FE er by the way.... but how would you prove the earth is a globe.... this is my best effort https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=Belt+of+Venus&cat=web&pl=opensearch&language=english

Why should there be lots of pics of LEO satellites?

but how would you prove the earth is a globe

By the simple fact that my horizon is limited, as I cannot see buildings or countries far away which should otherwise be visible if not obstructed by the Earths curve.

Why should there be lots of pics of LEO satellites? your kidding right. its should be easy to see them and take a picture. there are zero

the curvature thing is debunked.... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flat+earth+zoom+boat.

you obviously have not bothered to research both sides of the argument.... so you are wrong by default.

its should be easy to see them and take a picture.

What kind of photo are you expecting?

The ISS is a humongous satellite but even it only appears as a point of light, unless you've got an advanced camera set-up capable of seeing some detail.

You will never see most satellites.

the curvature thing is debunked....

No it's not.

you obviously have not bothered to research both sides of the argument.

My name here is celebrity. I've done my research.

soooooooo you have never heard of camaras that can take pictures of things far away.... jog on mr celebrity.

Did you even read my post? I literally said "unless you've got an advanced camera-telescope rig capable of seeing some detail."

No wonder you fell for the flat Earth nonsense!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=satellite+in+low+earth+orbit&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi29Jjdt9fZAhUiJ8AKHXnLAw8Q_AUICigB

i think i will be blocking you.

You don't even know what it is you're linking.

Lol this whole exchange is a goddamn dumpster fire.

Why should there be lots of pics of LEO satellites? your kidding right. its should be easy to see them and take a picture. there are zero

Why would there be lots of photos? Its a fridge sized object or smaller that is black on a black background thousands of miles away.

Also use your eyes, I can see satellites move across the sky at night. Hell people have taken photos of the ISS from the ground that clearly show what it is.

And heres an example (Of many) that show curvature.

A ship was filmed on high zoom going over the horizon.

ok

but how whould you go about proving globe earth. it should be a lot easier than it is.

(remember i'm not a flat earther)

have you got any pics of isis from the ground? i can't find any that look real.

but how whould you go about proving globe earth. it should be a lot easier than it is.

I gave you several examples of phenomena that only work if the Earth is a globe, including a method to determine the size with the above link.

have you got any pics of isis from the ground? i can't find any that look real.

This is a problem. Any photo evidence I give you will be called fake because you dont think it looks real. SO whats the point?

I can find plenty that look normal.

wow that was weak.. this is why this whole conspiracy exists. because its hard to prove globe earth.

because its hard to prove globe earth.

It is if you just ignore all the points made and use ad hominems to dismiss arguments.

"Why would there be lots of photos? Its a fridge sized object or smaller that is black on a black background thousands of miles away."

but just a few words later you said

"I can see satellites move across the sky at night. Hell people have taken photos of the ISS from the ground"

This is called cognitive dissonance.

How so? There are pics of the iss from the ground and you never actually challenged any points I made.

Do you think you can see a satellite traversing the sky? Why or why not?

You claimed satellites wouldn't be visible in photos because they are small black objects against a black background but then you claimed to be able to see these small black objects against a black background with your own eyes.

I see white lights moving at night all the time.

Have you never thought to investigate what they are?

Nothing about being able to see the ISS?

This doesnt make sense to you because you havent bothered to investigate even the barest bit about the world around you.

Can you please talk about what those lights in the sky are and why we can take a photo of the ISS?

Can you also tell us what benefit taking photos of objects we can track is?

Why are you pressing me to put a label onto something that I have no way of discovering myself? I have no way of flying to that altitude and discerning what is traveling up there, so until I can do so, I'm just taking another person's word for it. If person A tells me it's a satellite because person B told them it was a satellite and they trust the opinion of person B, that doesn't make it a satellite.

Why are you pressing me to put a label onto something that I have no way of discovering myself?

You do, you could figure this out with an afternoons worth of effort.

I have no way of flying to that altitude and discerning what is traveling up there, so until I can do so, I'm just taking another person's word for it.

Just like how you think computers are magic because you cant shrink yourself down and see an electron move through a CPU logic gate, right?

You see how ridiculous it is to denounce everything you cant see or feel, right?

If person A tells me it's a satellite because person B told them it was a satellite and they trust the opinion of person B, that doesn't make it a satellite.

Again extend this logic to anything else and see how ridiculous it sounds.

Your analogy doesn't work because I can pull apart a computer and build it back up again in order to know it. I can't do the same with the things in the air that we are discussing. You might say that we don't need to physically interact with a satellite to know it and to know how it works, but when you don't trust person B, and they are the authority on satellites, then you might be a little skeptical.

Your analogy doesn't work because I can pull apart a computer and build it back up again in order to know it.

So you have an electron microscope and verified that how electrons flow is what youve been told?

I find that hard to believe, sounds to me you are taking someone elses word for it... For all you know computers are magic because you havent seen or experienced how they work at the atomic level.

You might say that we don't need to physically interact with a satellite to know it and to know how it works, but when you don't trust person B, and they are the authority on satellites, then you might be a little skeptical.

No... This is dumb simple to figure out. The data we get from satellites can only come from a high altitude object moving very fast.

You dont trust authorities but you have all the tools to verify this yourself.

Why havent you?

One way hey obfuscate is whith single topic issues.

Sure they might come up with a reasonable explanation with regards to one phenomena but when you put their whole world into a model it falls to shit.

I think this is a good idea. Most other subs I frequent do this.

How about we introduced a weekly discussion thread initially, this could be handled by the automod and rolled out once a week for readers to discuss anything related to conspiracy and alternative news?

Can't we just have a daily GOP/Trump thread where all the inane bullshit that gets posted ad nauseam is collected so we can get back to real conspiracies?

try looking at it from the point of proving globe earth.... there lots of weird stuff as i'm sure you know.

for example the blue marble.... and how there should be lots of pictures of low earth orbit satellites but there isn't.

i'm not a FE er by the way.... but how would you prove the earth is a globe.... this is my best effort https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=Belt+of+Venus&cat=web&pl=opensearch&language=english

One way hey obfuscate is whith single topic issues.

Sure they might come up with a reasonable explanation with regards to one phenomena but when you put their whole world into a model it falls to shit.

ok

but how whould you go about proving globe earth. it should be a lot easier than it is.

(remember i'm not a flat earther)

have you got any pics of isis from the ground? i can't find any that look real.

"Why would there be lots of photos? Its a fridge sized object or smaller that is black on a black background thousands of miles away."

but just a few words later you said

"I can see satellites move across the sky at night. Hell people have taken photos of the ISS from the ground"

This is called cognitive dissonance.