What are you referring to, specifically?

I don't see anyone ever pushing globalism on here, he's making stuff up.

"Globalism" is one of those things that exists in the minds of its opponents more than its so-called supporters.

... For example? . . . . . .

Great.

Your thread will now be rightfully downvoted to oblivion. You had a chance.

Bye bye

You're adorable.

That may be, but you're still adorable.

That's cute, you think you're the first person to look at my post history?

How about you focus on legitimizing your own post instead of whatever this is.

Meanwhile i''m still waiting for you to post anything in favor of your initial post.

So... petty.

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If they remove any of his comments (like the one below) for rule violations he can claim it’s further proof of censorship, despite posting no actual evidence for the claims.

he's waaaay ahead of you

Sad really

Ha! I also just realized he probably made this post because he got downvoted in another thread for being vague

The comment was derogatory to say the least, though he deleted it before it was removed so I'm not sure what the story is there

oh hmm, i just saw that a mod removed his and rockran’s comments. Maybe a moment of clarity?

I don’t get a lot of people on this sub. Make claims, post no/poor explanation or evidence, get wildly angry when people ask for some, call people shills, get comments removed or downvoted, make claims of censorship, repeat...profit?

Suspicious suspicious...

Mod /u/axolotl_peyotl has some explaining to do.

My best guess is that he might say you were alluding to brigading the thread with your comment, though I interpreted as get ready for downvotes bc nothing of substance was offered and OP was needlessly vague and defensive.

Your interpretation is what I intended.

However even if the alternative is what I meant, it alone doesn't break any rules.

Very suspicious.

I agree. Things have been a mess here so I’ve just been lurking and quietly reporting lately.

The one mod who actually used to look at my evidence of sock puppets is inactive and no other mods seemed to present my evidence of sockpuppeting and turfing to the admins, as the admins told me complaints about it had to come from the mod team if they wanted to actually suspend ban evaders.

This is a conspiracy sub, not a nationalism sub. Mystery solved.

No, I reject that entirely and my opinion is still welcome here. That is what I think you're seeing - people with different opinions. That's not a conspiracy.

You don't even understand the basics of it, then.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-globalization_movement

The recent far right, nationalistic wave took their anti-globalist talking points from the same far left groups they criticized and often imprisoned. And you're falling for it. At least understand the history of what you're saying and know that the history of anti-globalism is not rooted in nationalism.

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I'm not sure you understand what globalism is if you don't care about the left or right but you think nationalism is any kind of solution.

Also, spoiler - all national identities evolve and are eventually "lost".

False dichotomy.

If your identity is founded on ethnocentrism and racism, then your nation deserves destruction.

You mean those brave nationalists who indirectly support imperialist corporate capitalism and the blind "support your troops" mentality/Holy War bullshit that has allowed the US to sell its globalist wars?

It isn't as simple and reductive as "nationalism is the solution to globalism" but I think it does the trick.

I see no effort in stifling criticism of neo liberal policy.

It will happen eventually. The Romans tried. The British tried. Germany tried.

It will take eventually. It has to. The world is getting smaller everyday. As a species we do have many common goals. A united Earth in one form or another is coming.

The UN. International trade agreements... All baby steps towards a united Earth.

What we really should do is form a union. Unionize the humans and have a globalist system set up by the people for the people. Before a government or corporation does it.

Your point is actually a reason why it should be done though. Getting poor countries into the modern age should be a humanitarian goal.

Given the ethnonationalism he's pushing elsewhere, I'm guessing he blames the poverty of the third world on inherent, innate attributes of the people living there.

That sounds logical.

There are people living just as bad in the US as is almost anywhere.

There are millions of starving people in the US it is just that they are obese and it's not as obvious.

If you calculated true net worth and not debt I would wager the US has some appalling poverty stats.

They use to say we are a paycheque away from revolution. Well most are now so deep in debt the next five years is already spoken for.

Hopefully that new credit card comes in so we can go on holiday this year!

If everybody polluted like America and China, the world would become uninhabitable.

What does it say on the base of the statue of Liberty?

I am an immigrant. You are barking up the wrong tree with your rubbish

Right. There are enough stupid people in America already.

Please. Poverty causes these issues. If someone is bold enough to up root their world to try and improve their lot in life, why should you stop them

The major push against open borders is from the lazy dim witted set who fear their cushy lot in life made by their grandparents.

We can leave them.there and build the factories around them then. Ship the goods.

Look. Future man won't see earth as an amalgamation of countries but as a whole... Earth.

Like it or not.

"Think with your feelings" is an asinine comment. Thinking without them is pathetic. Don't good morals dance between emotion and logic?

I didn't "call" anyone stupid. I stated a fact. There have been studies on this stuff. "They took our jerbs" is this same sentiment

The powers that be will outsource your ass or import your replacement, what's the actual difference? Ships instead of trucks I guess.

Nationalism is pathetic.

No. Basically it comes down to energy.

If we survive we will discover vast power sources to the extreme that money will be pointless.

Kardashev's type 1

You choose to wallow in our current mud.

There is an old expression, fake it till ya make it. Some say "if you want to be rich act rich."

We should be acting like we want "futurean" to be.

Pfft. Refer back to my previous take on this sentiment.

You are wrong. I live in a city where there has been a large increase in Chinese immigration.

One generation is all it takes. Hell I emigrated at three and have no accent or ties to my "fatherland"

Your little doesn't mind the rich coming. It is new rich that will push you down the ladder. Bringing in the disenfranchised will improve the middle class... No?

Again... What's it say at the base of that statue?

That's a rule breaker.

Your nationalistic attitude will change when the US economy crashes and Cambodia offers to give you refuge.

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There is still hope for European. A grand awaking has occured over the past few years. Globalism will be defeated. The European race shall succeed

You do see my point how we are becoming closer. I always thought the internet would bring cheap global communications and show people how they have more in common with someone around the world than their own neighbor.

Break down the barriers rather than strengthen them.

We need to back away from nationalistic divisive bullshit.

Get ahead of it and stop these pricks from enslaving us with the same idea.

The way you're thinking is interesting. I just don't see how that would work in terms of leadership, logistics, bureaucracy. Everything takes money - would everybody on the planet pay dues? Also, in discussing terms with the corporations, who would decide what we want when everybody has different opinions?

I just see it as inevitable. Our world is figuratively as small as it's ever been. With travel and communication costs dropping borders will become a thing of the past... eventually.

Money, like religion, is a growing pain of humanity. We will one day see our present system as barbaric.

I'd estimate about 30-45% of interactions here are with actual users interested in discussion. The rest is just bots and narrative pushers. Point it out and you'll be at -10 in no time. They have plenty accounts that we wouldn't even be able to ban them fast enough lol

They have a job and a mission and they won't let go until the fight is over.

Just know you're not crazy, this place is heavily manipulated, especially voting patterns and consensus building. You can even see some here obviously.

Oh boi, it ramped up progressively post-election when Trump won..

As of about 2 months ago they doubled or tripled their effective numbers or something because of Submission statements I think. They can't forum slide anymore by posting junk topics and links so they have to increase the consensus building techniques as it's their only tool at the moment or something along those lines

I'm just back from a 2 month break from the sub tip: don't call anyone a shill and don't criticize mods, even the obvious controlled ones, the sub ain't dead, AP is holding the fort but as you can see in the nomination thread, the shills ain't happy about it

You can talk about them as group but don't point to one, he will report you and you will get a warning/ban

Oh! lastly, the best place to be is /new/, that's where you'll find most real users, and also the battleground of ideas

Don't be surprised if good comments get buried in the negative, lots of people sort by controversial anyways

If you're not familiar with Q, I highly suggest you hop on 8ch /qresearch/ and get to reading all the data amassed

https://qanonposts.com/ for the posts only but you won't understand much on its own if you don't have backstory, previous confirmations on why you should take this seriously etc etc

If you need me just pm or something, if you have discord I can get you an invite for a small discord, fun place

Extremely obviously.

We're already living in a globalized world, held together in enslavement by Capitalism. Confused nationalists like yourself run interference for them.

So explain to what me why there are still countries and immigration laws.

I did. To keep labor immobile while capital is mobile, thus making labor more exploitable.

I've been all over actually, and I've felt 10x the kinship with third world peasants than I ever will with the rich vampires who run my home-country and the planet.

Those places are full of individuals with a diversity of opinions, just like everywhere else on Earth.

Dunning Krueger in full effect. The first world can hand you a comprehensive education from birth through widely available children's media, books, and school...and still churn out a complete idiot who borrows opinions from his masters.

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In fact, the end game is to generate a socialist dystopia and capitalism is the vehicle used to achieve that.

Capitalism is already making them rich beyond all comprehension, socialism would only get in the way of greater profits down the line.

What I am saying is, a nation cannot retain its nationhood if it is ethnically cleansed.

Nations and ethnicities are fictional divisions of the working people of the world. Your capitalist masters love it when you focus on these illusions instead of the actual, objective, material conditions that divide you from your masters/owners.

It will be weaker the longer it is divided.

The division is between masters and owners. Divisions of race, ethnicity, creed, religion, etc, are all delusions which the capitalist class gladly exacerbates and exploits.

Blah blah immigrations and ethnonationalist bullshit

You've been duped beyond recognition, I pray that one day you'll come around and see how you've been deceived and distracted.

Bezmenov was a propagandist in the USSR, and defected to become a better-paid propagandist in the US. In both places he learned to push a narrative for profit.

He no doubt found that anticommunists in the US were 10x more gullible than the people he left behind.

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Don't feel bad, this guy bots votes and does this all day every day. We all agree with you. The votes are bullshit.

Leave it to anontifa to defend globalism. I swear, it's always right on cue with this guy. He may as well be the official ambassador for the left on r/conspiracy.

Anontifa is botting votes, he does it I'm every thread he's in.

Just know you're not crazy, this place is heavily manipulated, especially voting patterns and consensus building. You can even see some here obviously.

Ha! I also just realized he probably made this post because he got downvoted in another thread for being vague

Those places are full of individuals with a diversity of opinions, just like everywhere else on Earth.

What does it say on the base of the statue of Liberty?

I am an immigrant. You are barking up the wrong tree with your rubbish

Pfft. Refer back to my previous take on this sentiment.