Why aren’t we talking about parkland?

389  2018-03-18 by theblackpages

Three separate teachers and Florida senator Bill Nelson have stated that the shooter was wearing armor, a gas mask, and carrying smoke grenades. https://youtu.be/tAN4g66RFug http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2018/02/14/students-describe-florida-high-school-shooting-scene.html

‘Mackenzie, who'd just left the psychology class to use an upstairs bathroom, saw a man with a gun at the other end of the second-floor hallway. Mackenzie said she recognized him.’ "I immediately knew it was him," she said. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-82-minutes-florida-shooting-20180215-story.html

“As we were walking as a class I was actually speaking to the suspect Nikolas Cruz” She told him “I’m surprised you weren’t the one that did it” “There was definitely another shooter involved” https://twitter.com/khousportsmatt/status/963972590258806785?s=21

A student Christina Vega says there were definitely 3 shooters in her very mysterious interview. This interview is nowhere to be found on YouTube anymore http://itshappening.pcriot.com/2018/02/15/parkland-florida-high-school-shooting-three-students-have-testified-there-were-multiple-shooters-yet-no-mainstream-media-outlet-has-picked-it-up/

Jalen Martin makes vlogs and confirmed he was the one who talked on infowars claiming that the secret service was there weeks before and certain teachers weren’t letting students call home about the shooting His channel https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQS0P4i9myU His interview https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UtE-pb6hVwg

First responders focused on cutting off traffic and setting up a perimeter rather than rush the building like they are trained they were ordered to not enter the building . Scot Peterson demanded everyone stay 500ft away. https://youtu.be/bDDghPsWTUM

The FBI got a tip from someone close to Cruz saying he owns guns, has a desire to kill people, and may shoot up a school. This had to have been deliberately shoved under the rug because it was not their first tip. We all know about the YouTube comment where Cruz directly states he will be a school shooter. Also the Broward County Sheriff’s office displayed disgraceful criminal negligence with the handling of this kid. One caller told the sheriff's office Cruz is collecting guns and is a “school shooter in the making” One of his peers reported he was drinking gasoline, cutting himself, and wished to purchase guns On November 1st Cruz’s aunt called the sheriff's office “pleading” them to come recover his rifles The Florida department of Children and Families labeled him a “vulnerable adult due to mental illness” and wants to buy a gun A family friend reported that Cruz has put a gun to his brothers and mothers head before which should have gotten him arrested https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/timeline-parkland-shooter-nikolas-cruz/?utm_term=.c5bbd39e0b7d

Glaringly obvious script reading in this fox interview https://youtu.be/bDDghPsWTUM

Any video that contradicts the official narrative is quickly being censored by YouTube. This is unprecedented. Hour long videos and conspiracy documentaries were all over YouTube the months following sandy hook now their deleted. YouTube is in mass censorship mode after this even real student interviews have been deleted If they talk about multiple shooters.

There’s these interviews where kids talk about seeing their teachers and peers shot in the head, dead, or bleeding out. They talk about it like it’s nothing. A kid in my school killed himself this year and his freshman girlfriend had to be sent to a rehab facility in cali and is diagnosed with PTSD she cuts herself and is majorly depressed. All of his friends still sometimes have to leave school randomly in the middle of the day because they mentally break down and have to see a therapist. All the pictures of David Hogg and them smiling having a good time, knowing that their teenage friends as young as 14 were murdered. The weight something like this has on you dosnt let you eat or think of anything outside the fact that people are dead

Also, this propped up the most organized well articulated anti gun propaganda movement in the days following. We’re seeing nationwide protests of school, this was very well done

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yup. its crazy. all the good conspiracy docs are no longer on youtube.

That's why you rip them when you find them.

Well I know what I'm doing this week and I'm a bit ashamed I didn't think of doing it sooner.

I was doing this for a while. However, my firefox extension stopped ripping from youtube. Do you have another method that I may try?

Xilisoft may still have software for that

It was a drill turned psyop. The event becomes cemented and the media kicks in with the divisive talking points. The lemmings fall for it every time.

Sometimes I wonder if drills cause what the drill is about to actually happen. Kind of like conjuring magic. If that makes sense.

If conjuring magic was real, we'd see places all over spontaneously combusting during fire drills. We don't see that.

No we wouldn't. As this is concentrated will manifesting.

Manifestation through fear can create energies people don't quite comprehend or understand.

What in the absolute horse fuck are you talking about.

Things you do not understand, clearly.

I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in that.

I'm sure you're not. Lots and lots of dismissive people exist on the internet.

Imagine if you were able to actually explain what you were saying instead of just labeling me as "dismissive" as a defense mechanism, though. That would be pretty cool.

Imagine being able to come out and ask a real question and not label something absolute horse fuck before trying to play the victim.

Can I take this opportunity to completely dismiss you too?

...

Thanks

Thank you for feeling so emotionally compelled to have to inform ME about Your decision.

You're welcome.

""What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".

You can't make a bold claim like that and get defensive and pissy when people ask for something to back that up. It's not healthy to just believe things without evidence so asking for it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, as long as you're doing so politely.

Also it's not fair to assume that just because people don't believe you means they are close-minded.

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I am not getting pissy. You of all users should be able to get the message out of a short 16 words or so. Even from an ass.

I get the message, but you don't explain how it's possible for fear alone to cause something to manifest.

Do you mean this in the literal sense? Like if I'm afraid of being robbed that would cause someone to rob me? Or in the sense of a self-fulfilling prophesy, like if I'm afraid of failing a test I will probably be nervous and botch it up?

If the first, then by what mechanism does that work?

Calling something absolute horse fuck is being dismissive. Not asking questions. That's different. You don't approach me calling something absolute horse fuck then get to demand I answer and play a victim when I don't respond to emotional retorts.

If you are afraid of being robbed and think about it often I would say you have opened yourself up to being robbed, no? If you can see so clearly that it's going to happen and are afraid and do nothing to prevent it from happening will it not happen eventually?

Calling something absolute horse fuck is being dismissive. Not asking questions. That's different. You (not in the literal sense let me be Crystal clear) don't approach me calling something absolute horse fuck then get to demand I answer and play a victim when I don't respond to emotional retorts.

Fair. I didn't really read that guy's response closely. I understand your response.

If you are afraid of being robbed and think about it often I would say you have opened yourself up to being robbed, no? If you can see so clearly that it's going to happen and are afraid and do nothing to prevent it from happening will it not happen eventually?

Also fair, I interpreted what you were saying earlier as something mystical, like a tulpa sort of a thing. This does indeed make sense though. Thanks

Shit like magic and ghosts feel like they always fail to take certain massive, deadly, events into account: War.

If there's spirits and magical forces affected by massed death or (negative) emotional expression, the battlefield would be a completely different place. Sheer desperation alone would invariably weaponize any actually effective magic, and there's a LOT of "dying-before-their-time" going down; which according to the popular narrative results in haunts.

Yet history has no commissars sacrificing conscripts to demons/whatever for a last-ditch upper hand in the fight and the streets of Saint Petersburg (Leningrad then) aren't jam-packed with nightly congregations of the screaming dead even though some 4 million people died terribly over the course of 2.5 years...

War is a manifestation of will...

So is me typing out this sentence, what's your point?

Turning every action of volition into an act of "magic" is a cheap cop-out; especially in a world where every colloquial use of the term - globally - denotes something drastically different.

Turning every action of volition into an act of "magic" is a cheap cop-out

...I would advise, of out of full respect, to stop making it that then.

Not left with that much of a choice when the proponents of the concepts can't be bothered with a descriptive declaration of what they're arguing, beyond "will".

"manifestation" as well so it goes beyond will a bit.

So will is "expressing the future tense" and someone/something that can see, feel, or, dare I say manifest that has incredible knowledge of things most people don't possess. Or better yet see clearly. Sorry that was for myself.

Maybe keep it to yourself until it's ready for others, next time. Give it time.

What can it do? What is it done with? Who can do it? What are the perceivable differences between magic; and simply wanting something done and then acting in the real world - through real world means - to see it done?

I cannot keep to myself what is not mine in the first place. That's possessive. We all know the story of Judas. I consciously try and avoid that. Samson is another reminder of that as well. Weird they both died in similar fashion, no?

And I think you need to answer your next three questions before you proceed through the door.

Now look what you're doing i can't shut up.

My only doubt is...did anyone actually die? My dad in SoFlo says he knows friends of the victims.

I hear you. I’m on the fence on that topic. Might sound crude, but undeniable, cold hard facts would include blood and bodies in this case. I’m perched fence top until then.

I’m on the fence on that topic.

As am I, but I don't think it matters as much in this case. Here we have an actual living suspect (unlike Sandy Hook) who we can assume is a patsy of some kind. There are more than enough, seemingly credible, witness interviews (unlike Sandy Hook) that give credence to the theory that Cruz was either not the shooter or one of many. I'm not completely dismissing the drill theory but I think following the leads in these interviews is a much easier and conclusive road to the truth.

Any links to the Boston information?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gFspsXuID6M

Do some searching for Jeff Bauman and Carlos Arrendondo. Both are professional circus clowns.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gFspsXuID6M

Do some searching for Jeff Bauman and Carlos Arrendondo. Both are professional circus clowns.

I do a lot of mind control research. Through the FOIA researchers obtained documents about MKUltra that the CIA thought they had destroyed. It's how the whole thing came to light.

They illustrated that only two top CIA guys knew the extent of the mind control experiments because they knew even the vast majority of CIA agents couldn't be trusted not to blow the whistle on treasonous acts.

I can't reconcile in my mind that they knew they couldn't trust other CIA agents with secrets like this, but, for reasons I don't understand, they would be comfortable trusting Circus Clowns?

CIA doesn't value human life. Why not use real bombs, not risk getting caught and have people taking to the street demanding their heads on pikes, and keep everything (as is their M.O.) on a need-to-know basis?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gFspsXuID6M

Information is becoming harder to come by. Search Jeff Bauman and Carlos Arrendondo. Both are professional circus clowns.

Jesus fucking christ this sub is ridiculous

compared to r/TMOR

Yes, I live 5 minutes from stoneman Douglas and knew the football coach that died

I'm sure.

Maybe because this is the first conspiracy post relevant to me that I felt was worth commenting on? You know I'd make a whole thread proving where I live and my connection to people that know those who actually died (yes real people died, this happened) but there's crazy nuts like you that would probably track me down and threaten me or my family for being "shils) or some shit....Im not saying the circumstances of the shooting arent sketchy but some of you on this subreddit need to get your heads out of your asses

You could but you’d rather try and paint a false image because that’s a lot easier and lazier to do.

There's a disproportionate amount of r/conspiracy Redditors who know personally or know somebody that knows personally people killed in most of the major shootings across the country. It's really weird and I think it's a phenomenon that should be studied because statistically and intuitively almost nobody on this sub should be that close to people killed in random mass shootings all over the country. And yet 10 or more people pop up every time saying "Fuck you, my mom's cousin's former roommate knows someone who died at <x shooting>!"

You mean the coach who no longer worked at the school but came back to see his former colleagues on the day the shooting happens?

Nice try shill!

I have a family member who knows the truth about all the pretending liars, the truth will come out.

It doesn’t take a futurist to see the risk these people are taking if it all turns out to be a lie.

my uncle also works at nintendo.

psyop IDK - Even with the Sandy Hook claims that it's all actors. If you also think this event is a staged and planned event with actors how in the hell can they contain these lies? Let's say 100-200 people (actors) are required to maintain the lie, don't you think one person by now would have come forward and told the truth? I personally don't know what happened but never will buy into the staged event with actors as the actual reason. People can't keep a lie.

To take it further, lets say a couple of people who were "in" on the Sandy Hook event were told to keep quiet. They agreed for whatever reason. They now see this event in Florida and immediately think, oh another staged event with actors. Don't you think they would be concerned enough to come forward and tell the wold that this is out of hand and it's all part of a lie??

I totally agree that something fishy happened in Parkland - I just don't think actors nor a staged event is the hidden reason.

They release footage of the peace officer doing nothing yet not a single frame of the kid walking into the school wirh his gear.

What sect of Judaism called in the alleged shooter walking down the street?

Not to mention there’s footage from damn 1999 of the columbine shooters

I had a realization I haven't seen anyone discuss. I even made a post on it with no real traction. It was confirmed all the shooter had was 10 round mags. Yet in the video you can hear shooting there were clearly more than 10 consecutive shots fired. No reload. I'd like to see that asked in the media

More than one gun

more than one shooter that wasn’t the kid

if it was confirmed that all he had for ammo was the one round then what's an extra gun going to do? where has it been said that he had one also? never heard that til now.

I haven't seen anything that said he had anything other than the rifle. Regardless, if you listen to the shots...no way he switched between weapons. There wasn't enough time. He was someone who was mediocre at best. Not a special forces with multiple weapons slung. Do you know the video I'm talking of? Look at my post history. Link is in it. No way that was only 10 rd mags

Source?

no. he had the one only.

where was it confirmed he had the one mag? asking for my own research purposes, this is an important thing to know if true.

awesome thanks.

It’s for sure an op made to take away guns and rights.

I never really bought that take away the guns theory. They would just declare martial law and mow over anyone who tries to resist, no matter if they would carry a bloody gun or not.

Taking away rights is another story, though.

It’s not taking away guns right away. It’s chipping away at our rights. And no they wouldn’t declare martial law and mow people down, it would have to be more subtle as to not start a revolution. There’s a bill trying to be passed in Minnesota now that would allow cops to enter your home and take your guns without a warrant, a “tip” is all that’s needed. They’re coming for guns and rights. It’ll just take years.

A tip. Really? In the first days I would give them a tip about the local sheriff and the governor. See how they handle that.

All you have to do in the purposed bill is call the cops on your neighbor basically. I don’t think it will be passed. People talk about it around here though. The point is stuff like this is making progress and a bill like this would have been laughed out of the room a decade ago and now it has serious backers. It’s all an op that will only lead to our rights being taken away. Perhaps guns go the way of airports before the patriot act or something. Nobody wants kids being shot, however, our rights are something we need to protect. It’s all we have in a divide and conquer system. 17 dead kids from a school shooting sucks but you never hear about the 4,000 kids a year that die from texting a driving. They’re using this as a stepping stone. Don’t let them.

I hear you man. I was being sarcastic before but it’s ridiculous that this is even being considered. Do the people that think that such a thing can’t be used against them too? I’m reminded of the guy that was commissioned to create the brazen bull. After he finished it and presented it to the king, the king had him put in it and the fire was lit so the builder was the first subject to be killed inside of it.

It’s ridiculous indeed. The people who are on the side of taking away rights think that by doing this they’ll be protecting their kids. They don’t understand the underlying tones because the mainstream media is all they listen too and the “discussion on guns” is all they hear. I like your analogy.

the brazen bull

Thank you. I really appreciate comments like this where I learn things. Fascinating story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull

"Nobody wants kids being shot, however, our rights are something we need to protect. It’s all we have in a divide and conquer system. 17 dead kids from a school shooting sucks but you never hear about the 4,000 kids a year that die from texting a driving. They’re using this as a stepping stone. Don’t let them."

Not just that. Another odd thing I've noticed in the 'Let's ban guns with handles' rhetoric on fb and the MSM is that it has only become about school shootings. Even though there are lots of mass shootings elsewhere. It seems like when most people think "mass shooting" now, they are envisioning it happening at a school.

It's a little weird to me because I don't think schools are even the majority of mass shootings, and while terrible because it's mainly kids at a school, shootings elsewhere are just as terrible. But it's like people have subconsciously drawn a mental line where regular shootings are ok but school shootings are unacceptable.

In my state, you would just have to go:

"Guns? What guns? OH! those guns.... I sold those years ago... No I don't remember who I sold them to... didn't think it was that important. Thank you for your service, though!"

That would mean all of the military and police forces would follow the martial law call. I would argue a good chunk would reject it.

lolwut? You don't see how guilting people into giving up their arms voluntarily would be different than violent confiscation?

Not to say that I think this was a government stunt, but holy shit dude. You can't pretend that it's completely illogical because "well they could total war their citizenry".

As if the military would ever follow through with that lmao

Copying and pasting a comment talking about this since you brought up Martial law, it was in response to someone talking about how the military has tanks and other highpower weaponry, and asking something along the lines "how would that play out against your semi-auto AR-15?"

(apologies, dont know how to properly quote) /u/TheGoodJudgeHolden Quite badly for the US military. Illiterate goat herders with Kyber Pass AK's and HME have been playing havoc with the most technologically advanced and powerful military force in the known world. Proportionally, they have killed and maimed FAR more than any reasonable student of military power would estimate them to be capable of. I know, because I spent 3.5 years fighting them. And the average "gun nut" here in the US has far better tactical small arms than they did/do.

Tank and drones, you say? Sure, no AR can stand against that. But tanks can't go door to door, taking firearms. You need warm bodies with weapons to do that.

I garuntee you 99% of the military/LEO won't do this. And the ones that do will face random and unpredictable sniper attacks, or IED's. There are thousands of Iraq/A-stan veterans like myself that have immense knowledge of IED's. Hell, I could make them now in my garage(I won't cause I don't want to go to the pen)

Even assuming the US gov't could get enough men to do this, they're going to cover the hundreds of thousands of square miles of wilderness, hills and mountain hollers? Doing what, exactly? Against some guys that have been waiting for this day there entire lives, and know the terrain like the back of their hand? That's a nightmare in the making, I saw that in A-stan.

Say they go the "total war" route, and just lay waste, A-10 gun-runs all up and Maple Street USA. They certainly could. Hard to stop that or Apache gunships with small arms. But they wont. Cause who wants to rule and irradiated wasteland? Cockroaches can't pay taxes. Even then, that's not a guaranteed win. The Russians tried it in the 80's in A-stan, send Hind gunships to lay waste to whole villages. Guess who won that dance? Not Ivan, that's for sure.

In short, the true power of private ownership of weapons doesn't really lay in the power of the weapons, but the inability to bloodlessly separate the civilians from their arms. It will devolve into a bloody, endless quagmire that'll make the American Civil War of the 1860's look like a walk in the park.

I think its better we ignore the events they set up to psychologically fuck with us.

If that's what this was, the problem is that we'd be the only ones ignoring it.

Honestly, these false flags happen so often now that I'm just kind of bored of them. Only a moron digs into these past the MSM layer and still thinks they're on the level. And the brigades are so tiring.

be careful. don’t call people morons here. your post will get removed by a mod.

No, you just can't attack other users. Speaking of the existence of morons in a general sense is usually ok.

yes they are moronic, repetitive, but the MSM viewers lap them up.

its morbid entertainment for the older people, social fear conditioning for the children. ie the next generation of voters.

I think there is a small % of society that they know will not think beyond what they are told, primarily because they yearn to be told how to think, how to feel.

These are the dangerous ones. These are the ones I see turning into ZOMBIES when the truth is revealed.

A civil war probably isn’t too terribly different from many of the zombie movies.

Suddenly a wave of something rips through a town, families torn apart suddenly, fighting in the streets, lots of analogies here it gets scary.

Talk to your friends about it more I think it's more like half not a small percentage and even if people are open minded they still aren't like conspiracy level of being 50 50 even they're like okay 10% chance it was a conspiracy, do ur part to wake people up

Try closer to 95%

Wish the video was still on YT of the fbi or cia or people dressed like them dropping bags of stuff at the scene out of the back of a white unmarked pickup truck. I really wonder what that could have been and since when is the fbi or cia at a crime scene as the shooter is walking out talking to a blonde haired girl who said there was still shooting while she was walking ...with the shooter...?

Cuts off too soon. Honestly looks like a body by the way they have guys on each corner like you’d carry a body.

Looks like a heavy duffle bag to me. Probably filled with the school's missing gold.

Only 2 guys are carrying the duffle, both one hand each. The guy at the back appears to have most of the weight and his end has a handle.

no one would put a body in the back of a pickup.

WTF???? I have not seen this yet what the hell is going on here?!

What the fuck? Honestly there so much shit we don’t know and I don’t believe we’ll ever know.

What is the stuff that is thrown from the truck onto the grass? It is possible that it's a medic kit since the one office does retrieve it from the grass - but if the bag has a body it certainly looks dead and they don't seem to give a ton of attention to the contents of the bag, just more urgency to load it into the truck.

The Jews man. The fucking Jews.

I blame the Irish, personally.

I blame whitey.

Fucking pacific islanders.

Bruh we fucked up our potatoes and died u think we pulled this off

Just being funny. No one race is to blame for anything. We humans f*** it all up perfectly fine no matter what skin color we have..

I know I was just joking too

-17... yeesh. I'll make it -16 for you. :')

You can't not mention Jews, can you?

No. I'm not IDF or whatever before you accuse me of it. I have contempt for Israel but not the Jewish people. But for a people you seem to hate you sure can't get them out of your head.

Are you willing to open your mind if I present some sources?

To quote a wise man/woman/man:

Present them.

Let's start with immigration policy.

It was planned 100 years ago. Research the Kalergi plan. Look at who funded it. Look at who supports it. And look at how it is affecting America.

If you want to understand more, the best place to start is reading Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald.

Okay. So you don't like Zionists.

Me either. But it would help to discern you to discern between the two.

Is it really a coincidence that Zionists end up being Jews?

Is it really a coincidence that Terrorists end up being Muslim?

Lol you are trolling.

Those are both rectangle vs square things.

Dude. Just because #NotAll doesn't meant that there is a general overrespresentation.

NotAllTrolls

Your game is weak.

There’s these interviews where kids talk about seeing their teachers and peers shot in the head, dead, or bleeding out. They talk about it like it’s nothing.

CIA/contractor psychopaths. the future leaders and civil servants of our great nation.

And they'll point to this event as what pushed them into politics, and why gun control is so important to them.

from your second link:

"As the officers were guiding students out, they noticed something odd: One of the students had put on a bulletproof vest.

The student said he'd been given the vest by his father, a police officer."

I've seen people mention that a few times and I don't think it's suspicious for a few reasons.

A) The vest was probably given to the kid as a "just in case" measure. Call it an overprotective parent or something.

B) If the father knew a shooting was going to happen he wouldn't have allowed the kid to go to school in the first place.

C) Assuming it was a kevlar vest it wouldn't do anything to protect the kid from an AR-15. He would've needed a plate carrier with at least level III+ armor plates which would be impractical to carry around at school every day.

Bulletproof backpacks are a bit pointless, a majority of schools won’t let you carry them anymore.

That make "bulletproof" clipboards that I think would work a bit better then a backpack with an insert.

I think our best option is to have every student get standard issued glock 22s

/s i think

The interns will have to share a Glock though.

we used to bring guns to school all the time.

I’m not entirely sure that’s something to be proud of, but okay.

If you don’t bring a gun you’re a giant fucking nerd

This shouldn't be a laughing matter, but I'm laughing way too hard at this comment. Take my upvote.

Your solution is non-sensical and wouldn't work.

It would be far better for every other student to get issued a Glock 22 with no bullets, and the ones who don't get the Glocks get issued 1 bullet each.

Safety first.

Plus, bullets are expensive.

That’s where you’re wrong kiddo.

I think if every child has a glock, the worst that can happen is 5 dead, the rest would have whipped out their gats and popped the original instigator, where in your world, the person with the glock could just pistol whip a person with a bullet, and then everyone else has at least an 8 second delay to get their bullets.

That’s where you’re wrong kiddo.

I think if every child has a glock, the worst that can happen is 5 dead, the rest would have whipped out their gats and popped the original instigator, where in your world, the person with the glock could just pistol whip a person with a bullet, and then everyone else has at least an 8 second delay to get their bullets.

Yes, but it encourages collaboration. These kids aren't there in the first place to act as security guards. They are there to act as security guards AND learn important life skills. I'm just advocating making lemons from lemonade.

I think we should reimplement school segregation as well, all the white schools would get shot up and the schools with minorities would simply get daily fights in the hallway.

Those are heavy. I bought a few and they are really hard plates.

I think the idea the dad gave the kid Kevlar vest is very suspicious, helping to ad credibility there was a shooting.

And yes, it’s possible someone knew Nikolas Cruz was being hired as a professional ‘fake school shooting shooter’ and decided to show up with some real ammo.

The person I would be looking into is the ‘father’ who brought the best for his son.

He is your real suspect.

Poor Nikolas is a pansy.

Patsy is the word your for looking unless your looking to call him a coward.

Poor nikolas, get the fuck out of here

Yeah, poor Nikolas, he should have been in a mental facility instead of being allowed to attend school, where he was being handled and triggered.

Cheers.

I mean if the parents knew, wouldn't they just take the kid out of school for a few days instead of sending him with a vest?

*patsy

pansy=sissy

How much of a burden would it be to carry around a "bulletproof"/Kevlar vest without plates? If it is something that a kid could just fold up and throw in his backpack and still have room for books and stuff, I would lean towards "just in case" measure by overprotective parent.

If it is something that is seriously bulky and a hassle to carry around on the daily, I would think something is fishy. At the very least, if it is a hassle to carry around I would expect someone to have seen it before if this kid innocently carries it around on a daily basis.

They're two different things. A kevlar vest only protects against things like buckshot and most pistol calibers. It's light and flexible, the same thing cops wear.

A plate carrier is basically a vest where you insert armored steel or ceramic plates design to stop rifle rounds. They're bulky and weigh around 20-30 pounds. If this kid came to school with one of these it would be very suspicious.

As soon as became obvious that the local police were ordered to stand down in order to maximize the body count, the teevee dropped the story like a flaming turd.

Damn... fuck YouTube where can I get some food conspiracy info from and don’t tell me infowars.com

I think we can clearly say that this was well planned and carried out . Why are they hiding this info because we are asking the right questions. Deep state at it again. Sacrifice of our children is nothing to them. They want your guns and will do anything to get the.

This and Vegas need to me talked about more. If there are any other subs that all about both of these specifically please let me know. I'm tired of reading about politics, and would rather read about interesting conspiracies.

Plus Vegas shouldn't be forgotten, we know shit.

oh shit thank you good sir!

"First responders focused on cutting off traffic and setting up a perimeter rather than rush the building like they are trained..."

this is simply not true. at least in the case of EMTs.

the first rule of first response for us is BSI scene safety. if the scene is not safe you do not leave you truck. period. otherwise you risk injury to yourself and your partner. its been a couple years since i was in the field and this may be different in the case of a mass casualty situation, but i highly doubt emts/paramedics would be following police into an unsafe situation

as for other first responders such as firemen and police I cannot say. i would imagine firemen have the same rule as us.

but you would think police would be storming the building.

Did any smoke grenades go off? Why is he confessing to the shooting? Gunshots are discombobulating and people were terrified.... if this was staged, he would be dead.

I'm just wondering, if smoke grenades went off in the building, do you know if there would be some kind of chemical evidence, like a residue or something? Not that investigators are really all that interested in collecting that sort of evidence... and not that we would get to see the evidence even if they were interested in collecting it.

Now that I think about it, there should be several pieces of evidence at the eventual trial that we should see:

  1. The body armor he supposedly ditched somewhere
  2. The weapon he supposedly ditched somewhere
  3. Chemical residue report from smoke grenades OR undetonated smoke grenades if these were even present.
  4. Testimony from above mentioned witnesses mentioning multiple shooters and describing shooter and body armor.
  5. 50-100 empty bullet casings
  6. Documentation of bullet holes from shots that missed or passed through bodies.

Something tells me, even if we get to see the trial, we won't see any of this evidence. And nobody will question it. And this comment will be voted down for even mentioning it.

Don't think there's gonna be a trial. One of the reasons for him copping out instantly to guilty may be so that none of the evidence even needs to be presented. I don't know. Not sure.

Yeah, not holding my breath for one.

That raises an interesting point that I had not thought of before though. Suppose Cruz was some kind of agent or employee of the government... He pulls off the shooting or depending on what you believe he just gets picked up for the shooting afterwards... Then he instantly pleads guilty and disappears into the criminal justice system.

Operative word being 'disappears'. As in: how do we really know if he is rotting away in a cell somewhere or just back to work at Langley the Monday after the trial? We don't really, I guess we just have to trust the media to follow up...

Because I'm literally exhausted from the level of bullshit in the media and I'd rather just stare at a wall. I'm joking, but not really.

Things are crumbling, they've been crumbling my whole life... I'm exhausted. I hate that I'm exhausted, but I am. I run out of effort to dissect lie number #3427 from the media. We need to hit it at the root, lest we waste all our energy hacking away at branches...

I feel the same, and that's exactly what they want.

Yup and I know it too, which makes it hurt all the more. I keep trying though, but I keep trying to be wiser about how to use my ever-diminishing energy to solve this problem

why not? because theres a bunch of other shit to talk about that is more important.

Define importance. Any situation that involves dead people is pretty important if you ask me...

yeah but you're talking about things that could be true, but don't have enough evidence to back those things up. theres waaaaaay more fishy shit about vegas etc. if theres ever any bombshell revelation that changes the parkland investigation i'll suck your dick. because it will never happen

Clearly it’s important to this guy though and he’s intrigued by it so I see no harm in at least listening to what he has to say. Yeah Vegas definitely needs more attention as there’s bigger holes in the story but I don’t buy the ‘you can only focus on one thing at a time’ that people preach round here. It’s the same when people post about Clinton haha.

you're right about the not focusing on one thing at a time thing. i just tried to look at all the parkland evidence and i couldnt come to a solid conclusion but if more evidence comes out then it will be worth looking into again. i still have loads to go through regarding vegas.

"yeah but you're talking about things that could be true, but don't have enough evidence to back those things up."

Isn't that literally what this sub is for?

no this sub is for discussing things but having more than a theory based on shitty evidence that is only supported by a select few accounts.

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why aren't we talking about wtc 93, where the fbi provided live explosives to the terrorists?

Because no one got shot and it's increasingly obvious given more time and scrutiny.

Nah man my Neighbors aunts nephew dads brother got shot there

Are you an incarnation of Zombie Dave?

He wishes

Because last time I talked about parkland I got banned, thats why.

This is actually a HUUUGGGE problem with Reddit in general. You say something "controversial" in the top subs and you will either be downvoted to hell, comment removed, or worse completely banned. It's happened to me a few times. Comment removal is the biggest problem with larger subreddits.

It was here I got banned... But I get it, the admins of thew site contacted the mods directly so I cant even be mad, plus they did eventually unban me. I should of asked before posting the kids reddit's account but he did have a top post in r/videos last year where he doxxed himself so I thought it was ok.

Well, the problem is no subreddit is safe. As long as there is mods there will be bias and all manners hiding the truth, even r/conspiracy. I believe there should be NO mods. Let the chips fall where they may. but that will never happen

Because it's a false flag. There are shills out the ass here preventing it from being discussed/debunking it/making anyone who tries to bring it up look stupid/look like "children haters", "people mourn differently", "you can't believe something actually happened", etc etc etc. Same as usual.

Aurora?

The movie theatre shooting

I thought you meant the plane haha.

Because like Las Vegas, the narrative is falling apart

he is on video wearing MAGA hat. republican terrorism

False flag , it’s always 2 weeks after a shooting and nobody cares to push the agenda of gun control

anyone know bout the security footage from inside the school? out of 70 or so cameras video from 4 outside the school has been released. not hearing much about the rest of it. any word at all on what's going on with it?

you cannot find any youtube videos from independent accounts that highlight the inconsistencies of Parkland or any commentary outside the mainstream narrative.

ALL results will be mainstream outlets providing coverage of the event of attacking/correcting the record on "crazy conspiracy theorists" or "fake news". SAD SAD SAD

hogg messing up the number of "friends" his sister lost in interviews

RemindMe! 6 months to google Stacy Lippel and see if she's still alive

Bulletproof backpacks are a bit pointless, a majority of schools won’t let you carry them anymore.

I think the idea the dad gave the kid Kevlar vest is very suspicious, helping to ad credibility there was a shooting.

And yes, it’s possible someone knew Nikolas Cruz was being hired as a professional ‘fake school shooting shooter’ and decided to show up with some real ammo.

The person I would be looking into is the ‘father’ who brought the best for his son.

He is your real suspect.

Poor Nikolas is a pansy.

The interns will have to share a Glock though.

Imagine being able to come out and ask a real question and not label something absolute horse fuck before trying to play the victim.

we used to bring guns to school all the time.

How much of a burden would it be to carry around a "bulletproof"/Kevlar vest without plates? If it is something that a kid could just fold up and throw in his backpack and still have room for books and stuff, I would lean towards "just in case" measure by overprotective parent.

If it is something that is seriously bulky and a hassle to carry around on the daily, I would think something is fishy. At the very least, if it is a hassle to carry around I would expect someone to have seen it before if this kid innocently carries it around on a daily basis.

Your solution is non-sensical and wouldn't work.

It would be far better for every other student to get issued a Glock 22 with no bullets, and the ones who don't get the Glocks get issued 1 bullet each.

Safety first.

Plus, bullets are expensive.

This shouldn't be a laughing matter, but I'm laughing way too hard at this comment. Take my upvote.

Xilisoft may still have software for that