How hard god’s job must be
3 2018-03-20 by Afrokiller-symbiote
I think most of us can agree that there’s something more than what our senses tell us. The concept of god is very vague and diverse but a general theme emerges; god is good, or on the positive polarity, and there’s the existence of the negative polarity or “evil.”
I read a book once, about a British soldier, a medic, in World War I. After witnessing thousands of his countrymen die in his arms he came to a startling realization; god must be in immense pain, if he does really care about us like he says.
If god can be quantified, and has any measure of awareness of self, how difficult it must be to cope with all of this. What kind of immeasurable virtue must reside in his heart, to empower him to not only stomach all suffering, but to allow him to continue to trust in his sons and daughters to endure despite complete isolation.
An unconditional, fatherly and motherly type of love.
And they’ll say “if he loved us he would bail us out.” Similar to a parent letting a child learn from their own mistakes, is God’s lack of presence in our awareness. For free will was the greatest gift that could be given. We all get to be “little gods,” for awhile.
Imagine that you believe in god or a higher, likely intelligent power than yourself. What is this really giving up? What are you really losing? The addiction to your own senses and assumptions.
Imagine you don’t believe in anything. Do you think (some people, a lot do) that god would punish you or hate you for that? Of course not! But faith doesn’t need to be expressed, simply possessed. Trusting in yourself, love, and your fellow man is it’s own reward. Getting to live on forever in paradise would just be icing.
Read Jesus’ parable of the prodigal son. The father gains nothing by allowing his son to return to his service; in fact his son has cost him 1/3 of his possessions. The father has suffered. he’s been worried, the son had forsaken him. This does not even register to the father, who is just excited to see his boy again.
29 comments
1 technobug 2018-03-20
what is this shit? go back to r/imaginaryfriends
1 useless_aether 2018-03-20
your worship of technology is more detrimental and ultimately more primitive than faith in god.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
Mic drop
1 SketchTeno 2018-03-20
the lds zionist perspective i was raised in was that it's more of a pyramid scheme that delegates responcibility and blame down the chain of command to servents 'in the know/ authorised as agents. while a hier power may care deeply about the ants, the looking after them has been delegated to much less qualified overseers whilst he gets busy banging his billions of space wives in his eternal polygamous harem to populate the cosmos.~ (i shit you not) ;]
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
There’s a movie in here..
1 SketchTeno 2018-03-20
it's basically not too far off from the story of super man without krypton going kaboom and all.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a3eJC3qAFU
1 iemploreyou 2018-03-20
The real conspiracy is that people believe in God at all. Not trying to be le-edgy atheist but think about it for more than a moment and tell me it isn't bizarre.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
It is bizarre, it goes against everything our surroundings are telling us. I suppose people back in the day had an easier go of it due to their worse condition of life. Makes it easier to believe in something you can’t see, when you’re a slave. But then again we’re still slaves, in every way minus the shackles.
I took my moment, I dwelled on how bizarre the idea of god is.
Take a moment and dwell on the nature of life; order, structure, complexity, birth and death, thought and emotion. Does the cycle of life not appear bizarrely, perfectly balanced to you? Is it not acceptable to at least theorize that the facts have yet to have been fully understood?
Even if there is no god, the belief in god kept us going and kept some of our most animalistic and violent ancestors at bay. Faith in something higher is absolutely warranted, even if it isn’t necessary.
No man could recreate what has happened on Earth. The best thing we can do is make an educated guess.
1 iemploreyou 2018-03-20
The belief in a higher power, the way you describe it, is exactly like a conspiracy theory. "Just believe it, it probably makes sense! And it is convenient!"
This idea that some conspiracy theorists are free thinkers but at the same time are devout Christians doesn't sound stupid to you?
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
You’re coming from a place of judgment, friend. Everyone has their reasons for being what they be and doing what they do. While that doesn’t condone their actions, it also does nothing for you to assume that you have the right answer rather than the other person; this part is important, even if they are objectively wrong
You didn’t understand what I was originally saying if you think I have a specific faith. I honor all life, all ways of living. I reserve the right to be convinced that certain ways are objectively better than others while still understanding that I’m not god, and that I should offer guidance, not “truth.”
1 reallywidetree 2018-03-20
Paying attention to our surroundings has made me believe in a creator, just like our ancestors. They believed because they could SEE.
We can't see now because we're living the worse condition and are slaves, too busy looking down when we should be looking up.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
Props ^
I can identity with this, I have no explanation that I can give myself to explain how I “know” of god, god is just there for me. I recognize that many if not most lack this trust.
1 reallywidetree 2018-03-20
From the Kolbrin, book of creation.
And once you do and begin to see. Life changing. And also once you see, and how words cannot describe it, our ancestors mythical histories and religions will begin to transform into the vivid allegories they are, putting a story to the picture you could say...
1 dystopian_love 2018-03-20
What was the thought process that lead you to atheism? I also used to consider myself atheist, but my beliefs changed after coming across more research. My process was learning about the universe via American public education. The ideas they put into your head about space and the earth make it such that the only logical conclusion is atheism. What was the train of thought that lead you in particular to that conclusion?
1 iemploreyou 2018-03-20
If anything I say sounds mean and/or angry that isn't the intention. I am not trying to insult or demean at all. With that in mind...
None of it makes sense. You are trying to tell me some bloke created a woman out of a rib of another bloke? You telling me that God flooded the world because he didn't like it? wtf. You cannot be a conspiracy theorist and not look at any religion and think hmmm... something is fishy here
It is a lot easier to explain the world and our history and mythology if, when you can't explain something, to just say Oh well God did it.
I'm not saying God doesn't exist. It might do. And at the same time I do not care. If Almighty God exists, and I am not certain that She does, I'd like to think that She gave me the ability to question Her wisdom. I can't be punished for free will, right? But to think that we can understand something like that? Nah mate, not having it.
1 dystopian_love 2018-03-20
I agree with everything you've said. That was the thought process that lead me to atheism, but it's only now that I see it was in error. The first problem is that you're basing your ideas of God on the Christian god as depicted in a book that was edited and censored by people who want to steer you away from the ideas it puts forth. If you wrote a book and then I took your book and added dragons and fairies and then everyone said your book was fake because dragons and fairies don't exist...you would understand that people were making their conclusions based upon a faulty premise. If people know that shit was manipulated, then they can learn what is manipulation and seek to find the truth.
1 iemploreyou 2018-03-20
I'm not basing this off just the Abrahamic religions. Well, I kind of am in a way since they are the only religions I have experienced. I just prefer the idea of the Old Gods like The Romans and The Greeks believed in. Why only have One Almighty? Why not have The God of War or The Goddess of Love? Fuck it, why not have The God of The On-Time Bus? I've prayed harder than I ever have for a bus to arrive on time than I ever did at church. Of which I went a handful of times.
I've struggled with the idea of God, its not that I don't believe, I just don't care. One person can be inspired to dedicate their life to helping the poor because of their devotion to God, another person might explode themselves because they think it is what God wants them to do.
1 dystopian_love 2018-03-20
I would direct you to read the Bhagavad Gita. It is a book that references god but without the Christian concepts. If you're open to it, JewTube has a wonderful dramatic recitation of it. It introduced me to the God concept without all the contradictory baggage from the Bible. Personally, I believe they are describing the same phenomenon but I never really understood the Bible from an intellectual stand point. But that's only because a superficial reading at face value without historical context is a fruitless endeavor.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-03-20
God is all. Of course we cannot perceive.
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
I have no issues with viewing god/whatever name you want simply as energy, awareness and consciousness with no form, no beginning or end.
If there's a physical being called god that created everything with careful consideration and though going into all creation then I do have a problem with it. Using the Bible as a general guide to how it operates, this dude is an insecure, psychopathic mass murderer that seems to take pleasure in making humans suffer. No thanks, I'm not genuflecting to it.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
A couple of possibilities to consider:
Perhaps it is just a force, still a higher presence.
Perhaps it can be both; perhaps god is truly infinite and can manifest anyway god wants, which would make him the most personified “person” to have ever existed, having been the source of personhood him/her/itself. Maybe god literally lives through us learning new things from (technically) himself. Humanity is awfully perfect isn’t it? Two arms two legs, genitals, animals who question their own existence. Wonder if it was successful the first try, or maybe there were.. prototypes.
The thing about the Bible doesn’t hold water here, as I made no attempts to idolize it in the post. I simply appreciate the beauty of it. Yes, it’s confusing and makes little sense at times; but there are passages that are packed full of insight. Someone wrote that. There’s a history and a tradition there that shouldn’t just be forgotten. Why Jesus? Why Buddha? If we just simply reject these teachings without careful consideration as to why they are so prevalent, we relinquish our opportunity to know the truth altogether. If they were charlatans, the people should probably be made aware, if they were true prophets or even “divine” beings, than I say with full confidence that we need to change in order to survive.
Probably best to heed their warnings or at least keep them in the back of your mind.
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
I was raised Christian but became heavily interested in Buddhism and Taoism as I got older. I have no problems at all with the teaching of Christ, it's a lovely message. Unfortunately it's been perverted. This is why I mentioned the god of the Bible, Yahweh.
I'm also fascinated with the Sumerian creation story as a companion to the Bible. Lots of my questions have been answered and many other pieces of info have fallen into place for me. So I have an unconventional concept of our creator and of God. I believe they are separate things.
Bit I'm also wise enough to know that I know nothing. It is fun trying to figure it out though..
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
I went down a similar path. If god didn’t create us, and we were created, than who created us?
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
I know it's controversial but I believe our ancestors. They too the time to write their history down and I have no reason to believe it's totally fabricated.
To answer your question, I think the Enki, the Annunaki scientist created us by mixing his dna with a hominid that was around at the time, just as the tablets claim.
My belief got little more solid once I found out about the Aratta civilization. They are the oldest civilization we are aware of right now. They are a few thousand years older than the Sumerians. What makes it very interesting is that the Aratta mention the Annunaki in their stone carvings and artwork. So now we have two separate cultures claiming the Annunaki were real and they interacted with man at the time.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
Bro, every culture in every corner of the planet has claimed this type of thing in one way or the other. But the Annunaki are not gods. They apparently like to play god though.
Only a few possibilities:
Annunaki are demons, Nephilim from Bible
Annunaki are aliens or ancient humans from another planet or universe
Annunaki are our jailers and inter-dimensional beings
Annunaki are figments of imagination
There’s something definitely there, but in reality the Annunaki are probably long gone, and we’ll have to find out ourselves. Based on the stories, I doubt we would want to meet them,
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
I never said they were gods to me. Others consider them gods. I just that said Enki/Lucifer tweaked our DNA and made us into the modern version we are now. The council fiercely objected to making us, we were considered an abomination by Enlil/Yahweh. Eventually after a massive rebellion by other lower ranking Annunaki called the Igigi they decided to make us for slave labor. Enlil/ Yahweh hated us so much that he attempted to exterminate us several times (also mentioned in the Bible.)
It was Enki/Lucifer that repeatedly broke rank and orders to save man (build that boat, a flood is coming) because he felt that we were his children, we share DNA.
It's my humble opinion that they are alien beings and really seems like most don't give a shit about us. There's a few like Enki and his son Ningishzidda/Thoth that have repeatedly tried to help humans.
I could go on bit I'll leave it here. Again using the tablets along with the Bible it all begins to make sense, to me at least.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
I think I know what you’re saying and I have gone through my rounds with all of this many a time. I do not believe the existence of other intelligent beings disproves the existence of god or vice versa.
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
Yeah, absolutely not. When humans cloned a sheep they didn't become immortal gods. Same concept. Just a tweaking of DNA
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
Right. The measure and purpose behind the tweaking, I suppose, is the more pressing question.
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
From my understanding there were 3 versions of man made.
1st one was too smart and rebelled, Yahweh ordered a famine to exterminate them but they fled to another land.
2nd try they dumbed us down but we couldn't breed. The 1st version of man came back to rescue them because they were related. They left also. Yahweh is livid.
3rd try was successful and were called Adamu,we were dumb and could breed. This dovetails with the Bible story of man receiving intelligence. Enlil/Yahweh wanted dumb slaves. His brother Enki/Lucifer wanted us to be thinkers. They ended up staying up late and being noisy and that pissed off Yahweh again, so he decided to create the flood to kill everything on the planet. Like I said before, he was a total psychopath with no regard for any life.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
Yeah this brings up memories from back when I was obsessed with aliens lol. The truth is we don’t know yet, might never know the specifics, and may not even be able to comprehend them yet.
A couple of random thoughts; if we know of three, given the estimated time of the Annunaki arrival as early as 400,000-1,000,000 years ago, I would assume there were many, many more forms of humanoids that existed, whether at the same time or different eras.
Also, I really despise the idea that some people have, that we were the result of a genetic brew of dozens of different races, like Greys and Reptilians and Arcturians etc; to me that theory (in my opinion probably purposefully) neglects the uniqueness and sacredness of humanity. I understand the idea of the reptile brain though. Our appearance just doesn’t add up, like you threw 15 species in a lab and this is what you came up with?
Hmm, very precise, Dr Enki. The overlords will be pleased.
No, I think the Annuanki are most likely just our ancestors, probably crash landed here and have been lost to time.
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
Your absolutely right, we may never know the truth.
Apparently, whites look just like the Annunaki. They were tall, white and had blue eyes.
Hopefully more of the tablets get translated and we can get more information. It's criminal that they are just collecting dust in a London museum.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
We have to just enjoy and cope with uncertainty for now, but I’ve mentally prepared myself for basically any conceivable outcome.
1 pharaodox 2018-03-20
Same. It's really all that can be done. Keep a little food and water in storage and wait it out. Hopefully it no he's there but good luck brother
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
Thank you, likewise.
Personally, I let go of the whole prepper mindset; def good to be prepared, but I think we’re facing an event out of our control. The only ground we’ll have to stand on is the condition of our minds and/or souls. If the gov really wanted to fuck us up and could they woulda done it by now. I think we’re looking at a spiritual or cosmic shift.
If Earth is gonna get cooked by the suns rays, there really isn’t much I can do except sort of be thankful for having existed at all.
1 J0e_EE 2018-03-20
I disagree with your premise. God it not good, nor bad. These are cultural concepts.
1 Afrokiller-symbiote 2018-03-20
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