I don't think a person has been to the moon. I just don't think we had the advanced technology back then to do it.

I think we’ve been, just not back in the 60s. We definitely have the tech now though.

Yes, we have the technology now. But I am still not convinced that a man has been on the moon.

I guess there’s never been any pics besides those from the supposed original mission, so you could be right. We’ve supposedly been to the moon dozens of times but you’d think there would be some sort of proof, especially since all that tech (cameras, broadcasting stuff, etc) has improved too.

Yeah, I don't like the pictures we've seen so far.

Yes, I agree with you.

We have the tech now but don't use it? You're assuming all the money and tech in the world could get people up there, when it's a false presumption that it's even possible.

I think it was staged because there are pictures of footprints going in the wrong direction and there are pictures of shadows of objects going the wrong way. As you can tell I’m not an expert on this subject but I would bet a good amount of money that it was a hoax

All the footage could be fake. It’s ultimately irrelevant given the numerous other lines of evidence (laser reflectors, moon rocks, satellite imagery, independent national confirmation).

laser reflectors, moon rocks, satellite imagery, independent national confirmation

They were bouncing signals off the moon before Apollo 11, and the Russians supposedly sent unmanned missions to put reflectors up there as well. Moon rocks have turned out to be petrified wood (yes as in from Earth). The LRO imagery is just as fake as the film footage. The international space programs and their rovers and imagery are just as fake as Apollo 11. If you think the footage of Apollo 11 is fake, I'm sure you'd agree with me.

I remember something about there being a Coca-Cola bottle in one of the shots relayed from Australia? Does this ring a bell to anyone? When I saw this it made me think for the first time that what was presented to us could have been staged.

Ahh yes, https://youtu.be/C4U1kJzzklo The Aussies are so good at conspiracy

There’s no moisture in the dust on the moon so the crisp, clean footprints would not be possible.

We went, told not to come back, Kubrick filmed what we saw.

Agreed! It was the Nazis on the dark side of the moon! (Watch Iron Sky if you don't understand this reference)

Something is back there. Nazis....aliens....decepticons...

There is no point in hoaxing the landing as there wasn't any doubt that we couldn't make the trip. I'm not a scientist, but it would seem pretty stupid to overlook the radiation belts during the decade-plus of planning and preparation that built up into the Apollo program.

The radiation belts are (a) ionized particles not high energy photons (b) of known location/thickness and (c) not really an issue if you don’t linger.

More fundamentally, why do you believe in the existence of Van Allen belts but not the work of the Apollo program? How do you go about picking and choosing which scientific evidence to accept?

I think you misunderstood my post. I absolutely believe we went to the Moon, my post was attacking the radiation belt talking point that the hoax-crowd gives as a reason why we couldn't go to the Moon.

Ah, my bad! “Wasn’t any doubt we couldn’t” tripped me up.

That's the only reason? I think it's an excuse the government uses now as to why they don't go anywhere past LEO and haven't in decades. I think the whole Apollo program they hope the public would just conveniently forget, like so many 10s of thousands of reels of data and film footage deliberately destroyed, just gone from memory.

So you think that NASA astronauts somehow got through 60,000 kilometers of radiation without being burned to death? From everything I've read, this seems like an impossibility. Why do you "absolutely believe" that we went to the moon? It is definitely crazy to take the leap and imagine that the most powerful government in the world would ever lie because it was in their best interes...wait...no, it's not at all crazy.

So you think that NASA astronauts somehow got through 60,000 kilometers of radiation without being burned to death, or at least died of extreme exposure later on? From everything I've read, this seems like an impossibility. Why do you "absolutely believe" that we went to the moon? It is definitely crazy to take the leap and imagine that the most powerful government in the world would ever lie because it was in their best interes...wait...no, it's not at all crazy.

It’s also crazy to take the leap and assume the govt is automatically lying about it. With even less proof than what is provided in support of a moon landing.

Yeah, because I took the leap and assumed. Come on. Look at the motivations at the time, and look at the evidence we have now, 50 years later. The truth is there for the taking.

Humanity landed on the moon and the proof is the laser retro reflector placed there to calculate distances to the lunar surface.

Once you realize, deep in your bones, that 9-11 was a false flag event perpetrated by the US government, it's not at all ridiculous to imagine that another one of their big lies was the moon landing. I mean, check out this guy. How in the world would we have special technology in the 1960's that we can't easily have again? Oh, right, because it's "too painful..." I call bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16MMZJlp_0Y

9/11 still boggles my mind to no extent.

To no extent?

Do you think that anyone has landed on the moon or do you think that the event was staged?

Both. A NASA landing or two took place. Then Earth humans were warded off by those already on there. Not sure too many other landings from non-Secret Space Program Earth humans have taken place since.

Is there anything specific you think that would make us stage the event of landing at the moon?

Yeah. We went to the moon, ran into a shit ton of human and non-human extraterrestrials there, were told to GTFO and not come back, and we took off w/our tail between our legs and couldn’t actually go there again from that point on - so we faked the rest of the missions.

Earth is a prison planet. We are all trapped here in a quarantine of sorts. TPTB on this planet are not all Earth human, do not all belong to the same species, and they parasite upon the masses of humanity - “the 99%” as it were. Part of their power comes from the massive, global lie they’ve been perpetrating for many generations that we are all alone in the universe.

The moment it’s shown to everyone that ETs are here and have always been here, TPTB will have a very tough time maintaining the authoritarian control they’ve had on this planet all this time.

So what would lead to the faking of the moon landings is the fact that A) the back/dark side of the moon has been said to be absolutely teeming w/ETs by various sources, and B) we’re a slave population on a prison planet. TPTB don’t want their sequestered, purposefully quarantined cattle to find out that they’re sequestered, purposefully quarantined cattle. The cattle might all band together and take over the farmer at that point.

My gut tells me it was a hoax. I could see this one going either way, but I think hoax. Very fishy things happened. Original videos were taped over or lost. Technology was all lost or destroyed. What? Why? How?

My main thing with us not going to the moon is why did Russia or another nation never call us out? You'd think our main opponent in the "space race" would say something if we didn't go. How were those laser range finders left there? What about the other things that should be there still like the moon cars, landing portion of the LEMs? I'm not sure but I think those should be visible with a good telescope if you knew where to look.

This is because geopolitics is just as fake as the Moon landing. The "nations" as we are taught only exist for us plebs. All the conflicts between them are also manufactured.

It was a hoax. All of "outer space" is a hoax. The moon landing was hoaxed so they could fake the pictures of the fake "ball earth" to push forward mystery Babylon's one world religion of "we are all made of star stuff" and the satanic lie of human evolution/apotheosis.

I think the moon landing was faked but the moon orbit was not. Being able to launch a payload into lunar orbit meant we had the ability to launch a nuclear attack on Russia that would come in from directly overhead. Instead of 15-20 minutes of warning, Moscow would have had 5 minutes.

Also, in case of escalating tensions, sending a crew to the moon with the authority to come back and release a nuke if the US National command Authority is taken out was a deterrent to a first strike, similar to submarine commanders having the same authority over their warheads.

Also gained by lunar orbit is the easiest method of putting a satellite in retrograde Earth orbit, travelling opposite the Earth's rotation, which is advantageous for taking out all the normal satellites. Ordinarily, satellites are launched into an orbit that travels to the east, because that maintains the momentum they had when launched from the ground. Direct launch to reverse orbit requires much more fuel than using a pass around the moon to make a u-turn and then return to earth in an orbit that travels to the east.

So the Apollo missions were intended to establish and demonstrate this capability, and the peaceful lunar landing part was a cover story for the missions. It became irrelevant for a couple of reasons. First Moscow responded by implementing the scary dangerous "dead man's switch." Second, submarine launched missile capability provided some of the same advantages (quick strike with no warning, ability to strike if US govt destroyed).

The missions were manned, and they did orbit the moon, but they did not land on it. The travel through the van Allen belts wasn't as dangerous as some people make it out to be. The photos supposedly from the moon appear to be faked and the lunar lander story is implausibly dangerous and unlikely to have been undertaken.

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curious about other opinions on the moon landing video and photographic evidence that exists. Thoughts anyone?

I think you misunderstood my post. I absolutely believe we went to the Moon, my post was attacking the radiation belt talking point that the hoax-crowd gives as a reason why we couldn't go to the Moon.