What subs ban based on r/conspiracy posts? I've heard of this happening, it would be good to get a public list out there.

Which is funny, because this sub has Lefties too. Being on r/conspiracy doesn't make one a Conservative. In fact, I see a lot of die hard Lefties on this board. Personally, I align more with Anarcho-syndicalism/socialism myself.

Yeah, it is, in my opinion, against the spirit of the internet. Personally, I welcome people to dig through my history and try and frame me for something...I always challenge these fools to do so whenever they call me a bot or a shill, but no one ever takes me up on the challenge :(

I'm a left leaning progressive and I fucking love /r/conspiracy!! Don't paint us all with the same brush!

Is this for real?

I can't believe they would do such a thing.. It's Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeediculous

A science sub removing a class of posts that aspire to be pseudoscience, but are really something less.

Crazy.

People are allowed opinions, just like people are allowed to think people are dumb for having those opinions.

Flat earth comments on r/space is retarded, given most of the FE crowd don't even think space exists lol

I think YOU clearly don't understand how much of a clown YOU are for posting this in the first place.

I mean, you believe in FE so I gueas that does explain your simple mind

What's stopping them from removing other opinions they don't agree with?

The Earth being flat shouldnt be an opinion. Thats like saying they are censoring my opinion that 2+2=5

Not trolling at all.

FEers dont believe in space so why post to space?

Makes no sense. It would be like a vegan posting to /r/bbq

Why? FE is a pretty clear psyop to get people to waste effort on nonsense.

Nothing about the FE makes any sense and anyone who spends andy mount of time researching it knows the Earth is as flat as 2+2=5

Its demonstrably wrong and to believe in it is to actively use double think. You have to literally ignore the things you can see with your own eyes to believe in FE>

You believe in FE yet accuse me of having a goldfish brain. Cmon mate.

Go watch some dickwad dubay or something that your advanced mind is accustomed to.

You bloody Goose.

Backpedaling at it's finest.

Thinking the comments are dumb is acceptable; removing them because you disagree with them ideologically is not acceptable.

In a science based sub, it makes no sense to dilute real content with unscientific BS.

Pretending all viewpoints are equal only serves to prop up bullshit at the expense of facts. Allowing legitimate debate is one thing, giving time to idiots and pretending their viewpoint is worthy of consideration is another. There are lots of arguments that do not deserve consideration and that should be dismissed out-of-hand. All you do is legitimize a blatantly false idea.

It also makes no sense to delete comments. If a discussion is happening, then let the discussion happen. Maybe more people on the opposing side will have their questions answered. Besides, the scientific method doesn't deem some ideas stupid or not worthy of consideration. It's only biased people who do that. Not very scientific if you ask me. Nobody is asking you to study every theory out there but if someone else wants to start a discussion about a particular theory, why should certain topics be banned?

for example: "You can not prove to me you are a real person who experiences emotion, and not simply a figment of my imagination"

This statement cannot be proven false, and it's certainly not worthy of discussion or consideration. It might be fun in a philosophy class, but it has no business in a pseudo-scientific subreddit, and certainly not worthy of consideration in anything outside of sophistic circlejerking.

Not all arguments are worth discussion, some can be dismissed out of hand, and taking time to refute them simply gives them a false air of legitimacy.

I would have removed the comment if I were a mod as well.

Their title is moderator, they are meant to moderate the conversation and make sure it's not taken over by people who reject the basic facts that community knows. If you don't like the conversation, you should try not going there.

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png

It's been a pleasure speaking to you as well.

Good.

The irony in the fact that I have been banned from most FE subs is palpable.

FE doesnt even believe in space so why the hell would you post to space other than troll?

Didn't you know that proper scientific inquiry involves suppression of anything deemed "unscientific"?

I'm saying I agree that you should be able to post comments because it doesn't make sense that some people get to decide what is and what isn't considered scientific.

Proper scientific theory requires following the Scientific Method,which FE can't stand up to. I don't see why we would ban it on a fun subreddit like /r/conspiracy, but I do see why /r/science or /r/space would frown upon it.

Does the scientific method come with a manual of topics that are deemed "unscientific"?

Not at all, but it does provide a legitimate platform from which to call out all of the fools who insist that unscientifically derived facts are as valid as those which meet the scientific method.

Science isn't about opinions it is about using facts derived from repeatable experiments that have a large enough scope and sample size to fully encompass a problem or a challenge.

Flat earth theory fails that. As soon as you fly high enough above the earth...boom you see the blue marble.

So not suppression of ideas, just a right to point and laugh at those who stick their heads in the sand and still insist they are right.

It's kind of expected when you go into a very popular religion's sub like the space and tell them their religion isn't only a made up occult fable but is easiest one to disprove.

is the easiest one to disprove

Then do it

Just like escaping the indoctrination of any other religious cult you must do it yourself. Start with the Moon landing hoax and go from there.

I thought you said it was easy

It is. Do it. Well worth it.

If you can't show any proof whatsoever to back up your assertion then how can it be easily disproved? Also, I'm an engineer who works with satellites on a daily basis. You're going to have to show me something extraordinary to make me question my knowledge of orbit mechanics, global positioning and navigation, SatBeams, and telecommunications

You are a heavily indoctrinated member of the cult. I can't show anything to you. You must want to question your own beliefs and take a look for yourself. Good luck!

I literally use this knowledge every single day of my life. If the Earth were flat, nothing I do on a daily basis would work. How do you explain that?

The earth is flat and "outer space" doesn't exist. I'm sure you can figure out how you have been deceived if you put your mind to it. If you refuse to try to figure it out then that's your decision. I suggested you start with the moon landing hoax. It seems to me that you aren't willing to question your own beliefs. I can't question your personal beliefs and biases for you. Some things in life we have to do ourselves.

I write simulations and mathematical models that require the earth to be round and for there to be satellites in space exactly where I expect them to be. The US military uses the software I work on to coordinate their tactical network. Who exactly do you think is deceiving me and how?

If the Earth were flat, nothing I've been doing all day today would have worked. It's not about whether I'm being "deceived", it's about the fact that I can conclusively prove that the Earth is round by sheer virtue of the fact that the things I write work and are used every day in the field. I have a list of satellites I can send data to at any given time and I can view the responses. I calculate the angle where I need to point my transmitter based on a round earth model.

I've looked into flat earth and I have never seen a flat-earther make a single assertion backed up with any experimental evidence

simulations and mathematical models

This is what your entire religion is based on. I don't know why you can't see it. It took me a few months.

I legit have no idea what you're talking about. You do know that simulations only work if your model matches reality right?

I'm sorry your career is based on a 500 year old deception. It's a lot harder for people like you to see the truth of this because you have so much invested in the hoax.

That's not why I'm challenging you here. I'm asking you why does my job exist at all? How would it even be possible for the stuff I work on to be fake? I know precisely how every piece of comms equipment I use works. I have access to schematics and data sheets that tell me exactly where each component goes and what it does. Literally none of it could work at all on a flat earth. So how and why do I have a job?

People built all the modules of the moon lander as well. Just because compartmentalized jobs exist doesn't mean the things you are building are used for the purposes you are told.

You're not hearing me. My job exists because the US Army needs a tactical network. That tactical network uses both commercial and USG satellites to relay signals around the world. If the earth were flat none of this would be necessary. Why would the government spend billions of dollars to build a less efficient communications network than it already has?

Also, the equipment I use is extremely specialized. It has one purpose and was custom built specifically to fulfill that purpose. At some point, someone on the chain has to know that they are building a lie. Are you saying there's a secret underground group of thousands of engineers who are solely responsible for making equipment that looks like it does one thing while actually doing another. And they have to be so good at it that other engineers can't look at their work and see that something doesn't add up? You do know that is literally impossible, right?

Yes. The space shuttle and the ISS are perfect examples. My friend's old man believes he worked on the camera that was going on a satellite. All he really knows is he worked on a camera someone told him was going to be on a satellite. The people in the know which are part of the Masons and other secret societies are a small number. They are happy to blow hundreds of millions on fake jobs and projects to keep the illusion going. This way those people actually support and even vehemently defend the lies without even knowing as you are doing now.

You're still not understanding what I'm saying, which is really not surprising. Let me break it down syllogistically for you:

A) I know precisely what the equipment I interact with is supposed to do

B) By all appearances, it is doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing

C) If the Earth were flat or space didn't exist or satellites weren't real, it would not be able to do what it is supposed to do.

D) There are only two possible conclusions: 1) Space is real and satellites are where they are supposed to be 2) Space is fake, satellites are fake, and someone is making this equipment to be functional but to appear that it is doing something entirely different than what it is actually doing while also somehow disguising this trickery to the point that no expert in the world has ever been able to see through the illusion.

Which sounds more likely to you?

Space is fake, satellites are fake, and someone is making this equipment to be functional but to appear that it is doing something entirely different than what it is actually doing while also somehow disguising this trickery to the point that no expert in the world has ever been able to see through the illusion.

This is what's happening. Only you can figure it out for your specific situation.

That makes no sense. It's literally impossible. If space was fake and the earth was flat, then the technology that I use every day and helped develop simply would not work. That's an indisputable fact

Makes perfect sense to me. You are simply working with some faulty assumptions.

Faulty assumptions that still somehow result in a complete model of reality and the production of technology that behaves exactly as if said model was accurate?

Where's your model?

I don't have a model. I just know the one you have faith in is wrong.

I don't have faith in anything. I use the known properties of reality to make things work. The things I do work, thus the properties of reality that I used must be correct. What you are proposing is impossible and honestly just plain stupid

That's why your religion is so powerful. They have convinced you it isn't one. Good luck out there!

Who exactly has me convinced? I can just look around at reality and confirm the things I know to be true. The world must really be so big and scary for you

Oh yeah, quivering in my boot over here. I just feel bad for people like you. I can't help you, you need to help yourself.

Enjoy your secret knowledge that only you know that totally isn't a delusion brought on by stupidity and gullibility or a symptom of mental illness

Thanks bud!

I read this whole interaction between yourself and wheipeeithurts, and it reminded me a a delusional friend of mine. While he won't go so far as FE, and is generally accepting of technology - though he claims that it's all been invented by the Military and is just being doled out little by little.

He is more of the mindset that a small cabal of a few hundred people are controlling all of geopolitics. I tried to use the "fake jobs" argument (70,000 people work for the US State Department, alone), but as you see, many people aren't interested in reason or logic.

Keep fighting the good fight...

It's purely morbid curiosity that keeps me going at this point

I did. Years ago. I argued for the flat earth in a persuasive speech in high school after picking up a book on the subject because I thought it was good for a laugh.

Then I looked again recently because I noticed it had started gaining popularity again. Exactly the same material. No advancement, still no evidence. Every video I've seen on YouTube on the subject contains nothing that wasn't already being used by flat earthers more than 25 years ago. Their "evidence" can be summed up something like this:

• Water always finds its level (without defining what "level" means or providing any evidence to back up this assertion)

• The horizon is always at eye level (without bothering to do the calculations about how much of a drop should be expected at high altitudes or even confirming this observation through experimentation)

• You can sometimes see things that should be obscured by the horizon (without bothering to explain why you can't ALWAYS see these things, why this only happens over bodies of water on cool days, or why atmospheric refraction isn't a good enough explanation)

• Pilots don't see the curvature (again, without bothering to do the calculations regarding exactly how much curvature you should be seeing at 40,000 ft. Hint: it's not much)

• something something "Bible"

• something something "NASA"

It's honest super tedious and when pressed for better explanations for their crackpot theories the only answers they ever give are "you just have to look into it for yourself" or "just look around you" or some other such nonsense. Honestly, until they can present some sort of coherent argument, flat earthers should be ridiculed and ostracized mercilessly because they are basically a cult

I dont care what you did in high school.

That's what you got out of that?

What brothers me is how people want to have it both ways. I want to hear what all the crazy assholes on the internet have to say. That's how it should work. If you don't like it, down vote and move on

What bothers me is that flat earthers are being propped up as though they represent a legitimate position when they don't. Every time a flat earther gets to speak without being chastised, it empowers them and acts as confirmation bias for any other idiots in the audience. It also enables idiots who believe in this dumb shit to believe in other dumb shit, which is how you end up with things like Donald Trump as your president

Touched a nerve, eh?

They should remove that shit here too. The vast amount of data and math one would need to get over to refute our known shape of the world is staggering. Well beyond the comprehension of any serious FE proponent. (Most are not serious)

And if you truly believe flat earth you are gullible and misguided. And probably intelligence deprived.

If you believe in flat earth as a method to resist convention and to actually check stuff for yourself then you're all good to go.

Safest bet is to keep the stuff in your own subs. There are a few that welcome garbage posts.

Many look at the lizard people thing as a metaphor. And without cutting on open we may never know.

However this world has been measured by hand. The little tricks fe'ers do are only successful in the dim witted. Seriously. The north south east west runway conundrum? It ain't that tricky.

Crepuscular rays? It probably would blow some minds to know those are actually parallel. (And ignore anticrepuscular ones!)

The gyroscopes on planes? Weak and ignorant.

I could go on and on but it's such a boring waste of time.

The time has come for FE to dry up and blow away, like most other shit does.

I wouldnt doubt if Ickes income was waning he would be all over flat earth for a buck. So lizards ain't your best example. Flat earth is just wrong. Being science it is well certain that it is wrong too.

Wilfully ignorant. One of the worse human traits.

I see it as an out. Letting these dicks be called lizards stops them from having any expectations for humanity.

Well I can assure you that crabs do in fact die. So there is that.

Good. FE is completely unscientific.

The earth isn't flat. That was a science based sub...