Two black men arrested after loitering in local ritzy Starbucks, management asked the men to leave multiple times they refused, management contacted police, police asked men to leave multiple times, they refused, they were arrested. BLM gets involved, boycott under way, starbucks announces it is closing 8000 stores to conduct racial sensitivity training. All of it, linked to a local Dunkin’ Donuts.
Except that everyone loiters in Starbucks. That's the whole point of going to a cafe. The only reason why they were singled out from all of the other loiters in that starbucks during the same time, is because they were black.
What happened was that they came in and asked to use the bathroom. The owner said that the bathrooms is for customers only and asked for them to leave.
The manager lied and said it was company policy that they had to leave if they were not customers.
A lot of people who were there when it happened, openly said that they weren't doing anything wrong and there was plenty of other people in the store, including themselves who were "loitering" and didn't buy drinks or anything. The only thing that was different was the color of their skin.
I will also say that I'm white, and have never had problems with loitering in starbucks or using their bathrooms without being a customer.
What happened was that they came in and asked to use the bathroom. The owner said that the bathrooms is for customers only and asked for them to leave.
You have this on video?
And once again, how long were they in the store before they were asked to leave? Time elapsed.
A lot of people who were there when it happened, openly said that they weren't doing anything wrong and there was plenty of other people in the store, including themselves who were "loitering" and didn't buy drinks or anything
Yes, yes. He said, she said and they was good boys... I get it, but you still have not answered my very simple question:
How long were they in the store before they were asked to leave?
including themselves who were "loitering" and didn't buy drinks or anything
Did they also demand access to the restroom and then refuse to leave when told the restrooms were for use only by customers? That's an important detail that you seem eager to overlook.
Actually, answer my first question before that one.
How long were they in the store before they were asked to leave?
You can read the store manager's mind across the internet psychically across spacetime, but don't appear to know even the most basic fact about the situation.
I will also say that I'm white, and have never had problems with loitering in starbucks or using their bathrooms without being a customer.
I will say that I'm also white and have been asked to leave a Starbucks for hanging out. It was a crowded one in a downtown setting. I didn't even demand access to the bathroom.
Yes, there are videos. I'm too busy to look for it myself, but just google search around and you'll find them.
And once again, how long were they in the store before they were asked to leave? Time elapsed.
From what I remember as soon as they asked to use the bathroom.
Yes, yes. He said, she said and they was good boys... I get it
Except it's actual witnesses to the incident. Google for interviews of those who were there, and look at the videos of the incident as it was happening. People were speaking out as it was going on.
How long were they in the store before they were asked to leave?
Already answered your question. They came in, asked to use the bathroom, and were told to get out.
Did they also demand access to the restroom and then refuse to leave when told the restrooms were for use only by customers? That's an important detail that you seem eager to overlook.
Yes, and other witnesses said that the other people in the starbucks were doing the same thing but had no problem. Why were other people inside the store allowed to "loiter" but they couldn't? The only obvious difference is the color of their skin.
How long were they in the store before they were asked to leave?
I don't know why you're asking this question again, when you already asked it in the same comment.
You can read the store manager's mind psychically across the internet across spacetime
What are you talking about?
but don't appear to know even the most basic fact about the situation.
What are you talking about? What fact did I say I don't know about?
I will say that I'm also white and have been asked to leave a Starbucks for hanging out. It was a crowded one in a downtown setting. I didn't even demand access to the bathroom.
Yep, and that's why anecdotal evidence is weak. Everyone has their own personal experiences and it's quite easy to lie about or not believe the other person.
Yes, there are videos. I'm too busy to look for it myself,
Not of this part of the encounter. You're not "too bust to look it up." Look at the wall of text you had to type out in respinse.
You have seen no such video, you know this, but you would rather lie about how bust you are than just cop to the truth.
Already answered your question.
No, you haven't. All you've done is repeat the "victim's narrative." Eatch, rather than answer my question, you did it again:
They came in, asked to use the bathroom, and were told to get out.
You're attempting to compress a larger period of time into a twenty second interaction. But that's not what happened.
I don't know why you're asking this question again, when you already asked it in the same comment.
Because I knew you wouldn't answer it. You still haven't.
What are you talking about
I'm talking about your eagerness to ascribe motives to a woman you've never met whose side of the story you never cared to hear before passing judgement on her character.
That should be obvious.
What are you talking about? What fact did I say I don't know about?
The honest answer that you refuse to give: Time elapsed in the store between their entry and the request that they leave.
Yep, and that's why anecdotal evidence is weak.
So why did you feel the need to tell the world that you're "white" and have never been asked to leave Starbucks?
Yes, and other witnesses said that the other people in the starbucks were doing the same thing but had no problem.
What's more likely, two black guys walk into a Starbucks and everyone inside drops their conversations to witness their entire encounter inside the store, or a number of snotty libshits saw an opportunity to virtue signal from the comfort of their natural environment (a warm, cozy Starbucks Coffee) and just couldn't help themselves?
I know how it looks from here. Folks like yourself don't help the matter much.
Yes. I am. I'm at school right now, studying, and procrastinating by replying to you. The videos exist, that's why it became a news story in the first place. There are two videos of the incident and they both went viral. You can either look it up or not. It's your choice.
Also notice, that you are the only one throwing around insults, and what I said about annecdotal experiences applies to me as well. I know my story is true, that's all I can say, but I know it's easily dissmassable as well.
The videos exist, that's why it became a news story in the first place
Neither video I've seen shows them asking to use the restroom nor the manager's initial request to leave.
You can either look it up or not
I've already seen them. That's how I know that you're being dishonest in your characterization of the events that took place, as well as about the content of the videos.
Also notice, that you are the only one throwing around insults
I've not insulted you once.
procrastinating by replying to you.
You're not replying to me; you're replying at me and spinning like a top.
You won't find video proving your narrative (because you know it doesn't exist), you won't answer one very simple question. Again, you're not replying to me. You're replying at me. And apparently you've got plenty of time to do that... but hitting that home button and pulling up the youtube app. My god, the effort that would take!
Have a good day man. Feel free to say or think you've won the conversation. It's obvious that you want this to be a battle or an argument instead of a conversation by throwing around insults and acting rude while pretending you are not.
You would have an easier time finding that nonexistent video than quoting where I insulted you.
Neither happened.
Feel free to cross your arms and pout off to class though, because someone pointed out your lies and your ascribing motives where you have no business doing so.
I had other users assume I was Jewish for some reason and a few have even tried to claim I was JDIF.
I took it as an insinuation from your part based from my past experiences.
And if that's the case, no I'm not Jewish, I'm anti-Zeonist, and believe that Israel is one of the biggest contributors to human rights violations in the world and a large source of corruption and conspiracies involving the states and the middle east.
If it was just an idle reply to my cheers with no insinuation or implying of anything, then my apologies.
Heh. I just lose my patience easier now a days and don't have the energy any more with people that want to just be combative and argue for arguements sake.
I don't mind people disagreeing with me or proving me wrong, but I find it's a waste of time if they do it in a rude combative way.
Idk what yous two are arguing about but being black is not a good excuse to refuse to leave a place when asked by management and by the police. I don’t know when that sort of thinking happened, but seriously, I can’t use but I’m white so I don’t have to leave when asked, so why would anybody else be able to say that? People arguing that it’s because the pink haired uber feminist sjw manager is a racist are just ignoring the fact that she asked them to leave. You got a problem? File a law suit, but you still leave. When the cops come and ask you to leave, you leave. When you arent welcome, regardless of why, you leave. This is a Starbucks in downtown philadelphia, which is a minority majority city, two out of every three customers are people of color, foh with this racist nonsense. This was a set up. Starbucks stock is down, everybody in philly went to Dunkin this morning to virtue signal. Lol it’s brilliant.
Idk what yous two are arguing about but being black is not a good excuse to refuse to leave a place when asked by management and by the police
Amen!
People arguing that it’s because the pink haired uber feminist sjw manager ..
a Starbucks in downtown philadelphia, which is a minority majority city, two out of every three customers are people of color, foh with this racist nonsense. This was a set up.
It is funny how when black people are being portrayed as some sort of a victim everyone abandons any notion of context.
Oh this is SO set up. Making national news, causing a shutdown for racial training, etc. from the Left's favorite coffee shop?
Fuck yes. This was so damn set up.
Hence my leaving urban life; y'all can have that shit.
Except that everyone loiters in Starbucks. That's the whole point of going to a cafe. The only reason why they were singled out from all of the other loiters in that starbucks during the same time, is because they were black.
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1 JStambler 2018-04-18
What happened?
1 avielectron 2018-04-18
Two black men arrested after loitering in local ritzy Starbucks, management asked the men to leave multiple times they refused, management contacted police, police asked men to leave multiple times, they refused, they were arrested. BLM gets involved, boycott under way, starbucks announces it is closing 8000 stores to conduct racial sensitivity training. All of it, linked to a local Dunkin’ Donuts.
1 JStambler 2018-04-18
Racial sensitivity training bc two black dudes were loitering. Wow. Gotta love 2018.
Honestly if I worked at a starbucks and had to go to that training, I would quit. Way to treat 8000 workers like complete morons.
1 avielectron 2018-04-18
8000 stores so more like 32000 workers at least.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Except that everyone loiters in Starbucks. That's the whole point of going to a cafe. The only reason why they were singled out from all of the other loiters in that starbucks during the same time, is because they were black.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
How long were they in the store before they were asked to leave?
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
What happened was that they came in and asked to use the bathroom. The owner said that the bathrooms is for customers only and asked for them to leave.
The manager lied and said it was company policy that they had to leave if they were not customers.
A lot of people who were there when it happened, openly said that they weren't doing anything wrong and there was plenty of other people in the store, including themselves who were "loitering" and didn't buy drinks or anything. The only thing that was different was the color of their skin.
I will also say that I'm white, and have never had problems with loitering in starbucks or using their bathrooms without being a customer.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
You have this on video?
And once again, how long were they in the store before they were asked to leave? Time elapsed.
Yes, yes. He said, she said and they was good boys... I get it, but you still have not answered my very simple question:
How long were they in the store before they were asked to leave?
Did they also demand access to the restroom and then refuse to leave when told the restrooms were for use only by customers? That's an important detail that you seem eager to overlook.
Actually, answer my first question before that one.
How long were they in the store before they were asked to leave?
You can read the store manager's mind across the internet psychically across spacetime, but don't appear to know even the most basic fact about the situation.
I will say that I'm also white and have been asked to leave a Starbucks for hanging out. It was a crowded one in a downtown setting. I didn't even demand access to the bathroom.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Yes, there are videos. I'm too busy to look for it myself, but just google search around and you'll find them.
From what I remember as soon as they asked to use the bathroom.
Except it's actual witnesses to the incident. Google for interviews of those who were there, and look at the videos of the incident as it was happening. People were speaking out as it was going on.
Already answered your question. They came in, asked to use the bathroom, and were told to get out.
Yes, and other witnesses said that the other people in the starbucks were doing the same thing but had no problem. Why were other people inside the store allowed to "loiter" but they couldn't? The only obvious difference is the color of their skin.
I don't know why you're asking this question again, when you already asked it in the same comment.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? What fact did I say I don't know about?
Yep, and that's why anecdotal evidence is weak. Everyone has their own personal experiences and it's quite easy to lie about or not believe the other person.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
Not of this part of the encounter. You're not "too bust to look it up." Look at the wall of text you had to type out in respinse.
You have seen no such video, you know this, but you would rather lie about how bust you are than just cop to the truth.
No, you haven't. All you've done is repeat the "victim's narrative." Eatch, rather than answer my question, you did it again:
You're attempting to compress a larger period of time into a twenty second interaction. But that's not what happened.
Because I knew you wouldn't answer it. You still haven't.
I'm talking about your eagerness to ascribe motives to a woman you've never met whose side of the story you never cared to hear before passing judgement on her character.
That should be obvious.
The honest answer that you refuse to give: Time elapsed in the store between their entry and the request that they leave.
So why did you feel the need to tell the world that you're "white" and have never been asked to leave Starbucks?
What's more likely, two black guys walk into a Starbucks and everyone inside drops their conversations to witness their entire encounter inside the store, or a number of snotty libshits saw an opportunity to virtue signal from the comfort of their natural environment (a warm, cozy Starbucks Coffee) and just couldn't help themselves?
I know how it looks from here. Folks like yourself don't help the matter much.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Yes. I am. I'm at school right now, studying, and procrastinating by replying to you. The videos exist, that's why it became a news story in the first place. There are two videos of the incident and they both went viral. You can either look it up or not. It's your choice.
Also notice, that you are the only one throwing around insults, and what I said about annecdotal experiences applies to me as well. I know my story is true, that's all I can say, but I know it's easily dissmassable as well.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
Neither video I've seen shows them asking to use the restroom nor the manager's initial request to leave.
I've already seen them. That's how I know that you're being dishonest in your characterization of the events that took place, as well as about the content of the videos.
I've not insulted you once.
You're not replying to me; you're replying at me and spinning like a top.
You won't find video proving your narrative (because you know it doesn't exist), you won't answer one very simple question. Again, you're not replying to me. You're replying at me. And apparently you've got plenty of time to do that... but hitting that home button and pulling up the youtube app. My god, the effort that would take!
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Have a good day man. Feel free to say or think you've won the conversation. It's obvious that you want this to be a battle or an argument instead of a conversation by throwing around insults and acting rude while pretending you are not.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
You would have an easier time finding that nonexistent video than quoting where I insulted you.
Neither happened.
Feel free to cross your arms and pout off to class though, because someone pointed out your lies and your ascribing motives where you have no business doing so.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Cheers
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
Shalom.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
You're Jewish?
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
Funny, like three posts ago you said you were done.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Yep. Just thought it was weird that you said shalom to me, as if you were Jewish or you thought that I was Jewish.
Are you?
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
You've not even answered my first question to you, but now believe you are in a position to ask for my deets?
Hell, you can't even be assed to find a youtube video you claim exists.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
I just want to know why you said shalom to me.
I had other users assume I was Jewish for some reason and a few have even tried to claim I was JDIF.
I took it as an insinuation from your part based from my past experiences.
And if that's the case, no I'm not Jewish, I'm anti-Zeonist, and believe that Israel is one of the biggest contributors to human rights violations in the world and a large source of corruption and conspiracies involving the states and the middle east.
If it was just an idle reply to my cheers with no insinuation or implying of anything, then my apologies.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
Still no video link, huh?
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
I guess my assumption was right, and that you insinuate and imply it.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
This ascribing motives situation is clearly a real problem in your life.
You really should talk to someone about it.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Sure
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
And still no video.
How 'bout that?!
1 iemploreyou 2018-04-18
This was a roller coaster, cheers lads.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
Gracias!
1 iemploreyou 2018-04-18
Me gusta
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Heh. I just lose my patience easier now a days and don't have the energy any more with people that want to just be combative and argue for arguements sake.
I don't mind people disagreeing with me or proving me wrong, but I find it's a waste of time if they do it in a rude combative way.
Sorry for taking up space in the comments though.
Cheers.
1 iemploreyou 2018-04-18
No need to apologise
1 avielectron 2018-04-18
Idk what yous two are arguing about but being black is not a good excuse to refuse to leave a place when asked by management and by the police. I don’t know when that sort of thinking happened, but seriously, I can’t use but I’m white so I don’t have to leave when asked, so why would anybody else be able to say that? People arguing that it’s because the pink haired uber feminist sjw manager is a racist are just ignoring the fact that she asked them to leave. You got a problem? File a law suit, but you still leave. When the cops come and ask you to leave, you leave. When you arent welcome, regardless of why, you leave. This is a Starbucks in downtown philadelphia, which is a minority majority city, two out of every three customers are people of color, foh with this racist nonsense. This was a set up. Starbucks stock is down, everybody in philly went to Dunkin this morning to virtue signal. Lol it’s brilliant.
1 YourHeadWillCollapse 2018-04-18
Amen!
It is funny how when black people are being portrayed as some sort of a victim everyone abandons any notion of context.
Thank you for bringing it back around.
1 PRESHITENT_TRUMP 2018-04-18
So you got a link that claims that anywhere?
1 avielectron 2018-04-18
Working on it
1 Capt_Irk 2018-04-18
Now this is fun conspiracy stuff. Bring on the coffee and donuts.
1 GasStationTransient 2018-04-18
As a long time conspiracy theorist I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever seen Dunks being dragged into it and it's hysterical.
1 thegeneraldisarray 2018-04-18
Oh this is SO set up. Making national news, causing a shutdown for racial training, etc. from the Left's favorite coffee shop?
Fuck yes. This was so damn set up.
Hence my leaving urban life; y'all can have that shit.
1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2018-04-18
Removed. Rule 12.
1 avielectron 2018-04-18
Where’s the rules at?
1 avielectron 2018-04-18
Never mind found em
1 avielectron 2018-04-18
8000 stores so more like 32000 workers at least.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Except that everyone loiters in Starbucks. That's the whole point of going to a cafe. The only reason why they were singled out from all of the other loiters in that starbucks during the same time, is because they were black.
1 politicalconspiracie 2018-04-18
Sure