If you look around the sub, yes there's a bunch of people who see this as some kind of ploy

People can't fathom the boogeyman disappearing.

I don't think it's a reluctance to let go of a boogyman, but more of a understanding of history and the prior actions the NK regime has taken. For decades, the routine has been to make feints towards war, get the world's attention, make some symbol of possible decency, receive a benefit for the symbol, fail to fulfill their obligations, wash, rinse, repeat.

Oh sure, but people get stuck way too much in the past

These times are fast changing times so anything that "used to be always true" might very well be not true these days

Kim Jong Il did this for decades. His son has done this for about 7 years now... This isn't just "the past", but a well established tends that has continued into current times, with no visible signal that or has changed. Sure, it might not be true this time, but it has been true "these days", and there's no reason to believe it's not true today.

I meant in general, not just NK

You seen the social changes being enacted in Saudi Arabia these days?

So, are you willing to concede then, that the "times are fast changing" comment does not truly factor into this discussion, since NK has shown not just a long history of this behavior, but that their behavior has been consistent and constant, carrying up into current day, and that there are no indications that this current event is a deviation from their historic norms?

I think it has to do with the precious minerals that NK are sitting on. In an article last year it was said there are $6-10 trillion worth yet to be mined. I think that it has only just been found out and now the rest of the world are making the manouveres to get to this wealth. IMO option 1 was the propaganda of war to justify the US and over allies going in. But actually option 2 has happened. NK has softened it's stance and now they will allow the powers that be to come in

The US agreed to go easy on NK and allow China to get first pick of their resources as long as China didn't retaliate against Trumps economic policies and tariffs. In the end it's a net gain for everyone. China gets massive resources, the Kim's get a ton of money, and the US gets the credit and some trade benefits

If true that's wonderful.

Are they useful for superconductors?

NK had their nuclear capabilities crippled a few months ago when the mountain collapsed.

The Saber rattling stopped soon after.

I still think "fire and fury" was a low obiting gravity fed rail gun that punched a hole into the mountain and scared the crap out of Kim while basically stopping there entire nuclear program for the foreseeable future

Or something even better we have no clue about yet.
The air force does have the x37b space plane / space shuttle that does...... stuff.

I'm guessing they will be useing it for special forces rapid deployment primarily along with spy ops not a lot of weapons used from it. But thays one bad ass little space ship, can't wait for more leaks on it

I still think "fire and fury" was a low obiting gravity fed rail gun

I have a similar theory! Gonna paste a comment I wrote in /news awhile back.

Want a fun conspiracy theory?

We put a orbital kinetic weapon into space in September 2017 with a top secret launch then hit them with it twice in October 2017, causing major damage to their test facilities and killing hundreds. The first strike was to cause damage, the second was while rescue was underway.

General Mattis let slip a hint in September 2017 that this was something considered as a possible option.

Project Thor has been a concept since the 1950s, and kinetic weapons were used in Vietnam with success, though not from orbit. They were referred to as Lazy Dogs

TL;DR: We crippled NK testing facilities with a weapon that makes nukes look like antiques and leaves little evidence of use. Kim spins this as two back to back quakes that just happen to hit these facilities at just the right times, even though they don't look much like quakes caused by nuke testing. The US allows the story to ride but Kim knows he's fucked whenever we want with no way to detect or respond to the threat. So it's time to play nice.

You have no idea how happy I am that you know about our kinetic weapon history. Every one iv told (irl) has just laughed it off as just another one of my crazy conspiracies.

100% agreed.

Keep in mind: The same people responsible for your fear of a “Nuclear North Korea Gone Mad” are the same people that have been selling “Russia is omnipotent and omnipresent, and are hacking your elections, and affecting your everyday life in ways you can’t imagine.” Perhaps the only thing that’s changed is that they’ve stopped selling the NK bogeyman story?

As someone who is fearful of a nucular weapon equipped NK and believes the Russian narrative is a total lie, your wrong.

Of course I am

You are watching a movie.

If true that's wonderful.