"Suicide: Avicii did NOT kill himself!"
5 2018-04-28 by _my_name_is_earl_
Really curious to what you guys think of this thread breaking down some strangeness around the Avicii suicide.
Here's a copy-and-paste if you don't feel like clicking:
I don't believe Avicii killed himself. I've been so heavily affected by his death that I've been obsessively scanning news articles. Here is why things aren't adding up:
(1) Oman, the location. He died with vacationing with friends... one of the people in the group, however, is confirmed to be one of his LONGTERM BEST FRIENDS.
https://www.instagram.com/fricko89/ Here is this friend's Instagram. The last photo showed he location tagged in Oman two days before Avicii's death. If you scroll through his Instagram you can see he was with Avicii throughout his entire rise to fame.
Many witnesses report Avicii to be in great spirits while on holiday, so much so that he EXTENDED his vacation time there. Now, if you're on vacation with one of your longterm friends... would you commit suicide? Avicii was a very caring person, evident in his documentary, I seriously doubt he would do that.
(2) The Aftermath Avicii's brother was initially reported everywhere to be traveling to Oman to SEEK ANSWERS, to INVESTIGATE his brother's death. A few days later, Avicii's entire family followed (sisters and other brother included). Now, why would Avicii's entire family come to Oman if this case was cut-and-dry? Going further... His body was found on ROYAL PROPERTY! the mansion of a relative of the Omani Sultan. It was not found in his "hotel room" as the media tried to portray everywhere. In fact, Avicii had checked out of his hotel room days prior and his brother had been tracking Avicii's movements. It was also found local afternoon time.... hmm.... police were VERY quick to access that no foul play was involved, way too quick. Two autospies were immediately concluded soon after... within 2-3 days of his passing and the result that no foul play was involved was again broadcasted, before his full family even arrived at the scene and issued a cause-of-death statement
(3) His Music Prior to leaving for Oman he had invited Joe Janiak to his LA house and they spent weeks writing new batches of songs. ON THE DAY BEFORE HIS DEPARTURE TO OMAN Avicii told Joe that he'd reach to him when he returned from Oman... before literally turning away to go pack his suitcase since he was leaving the next morning. Previous collaborator Nicki Romero reports that Avicii had sent him folders via WhatsApp of new track ideas about a month or so prior to his death, wanting to collaborate on some songs. Many reports claim that Avicii was extremely excited about his new music and focusing on creating tracks that had a more organic and authentic feel, using actual instruments (band member of Incubus most notably discussed this) ON THE FIRST DAY OF HIS TRIP TO OMAN Avicii had a conference call with his management team in which they discussed who he would like to bring in on some tracks (vocals). Over the next few days he continued to email them regarding this. TWO MORE EPS were in the works. Avicii wanted to release a THREE part EP, the first part was released this past summer.
(4) His girlfriend Relationship ~9 months long, planning on kids together, obviously very involved with lots of plans. It is clear he was very smitten with her little one.
(5) His dog Avicii spent hours and hours and hours training his dog, Liam. Liam had a literal Instagram page. It was clear Avicii loooooooooved Liam, and I'm talking about the kind of training that show dogs go through. There's some videos on his Instagram, mainly of Avicii pretending to hold a gun and Liam shadowing his movements. Just one month ago Avicii posted a video of Liam on a hike in Africa, he was constantly talking about how sentimental he felt about how fast Liam is growing... he was completely and utterly smitten with this dog.
BEFORE ANYONE ELSE TELLS ME THAT THIS IS NOT RESPECTFUL... SHUT UP. The most respectful thing you can do is to search for truth. The least respectful thing you can do is swallow media news and shut up. If there were truly suspicious circumstances in his death... don't you think he would want justice? His family is very clearly using very open language in their letter. I think it's for a reason.
There's something not at all right here.
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1 _my_name_is_earl_ 2018-04-28
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1 willo494 2018-04-28
Having suffered depression none of those things listed matter, you're so consumed by it that literally nothing else matters. It's been well documented that he suffered depression for a very long time, one day you can be planning to make more music the next you don't even want to get out of bed. I think he just succumbed to the disease I'm afraid
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
Nah, you can't just wipe a list of compelling reasons like that away with the universal solvent depression.
I'm not undermining the terrible weight of depression and its latent potential for suicide, but it's disingenuous to me, to apply that label without really examining the facts first.
1 willo494 2018-04-28
Im just going from my own experience
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
I share that experience. I also know that depression triggered suicide has been used as a convenient explanation for otherwise baffling deaths (e.g the Chris Cornell/Chester Bennington combo)
1 willo494 2018-04-28
I do think theyre dodgy myself. But with this, his own family have said about his battle with depression since his death.
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
You're right. I still believe it should be fully investigated as there were a lot of elements in what OP described that indicated he wasn't secretly on the brink of giving up (also was it a drug overdose or other means?), the family going there and then immediately turning around and accepting the suicide verdict, while at the same time not releasing any details as to how it happened is off to me.
They also discussed battles with depression and anxiety heavily re: Cornell & Bennington and it was enough to make everyone kind of shrug their shoulders and go "oh ok, the depression monster took him in his sleep- carry on".
It is possible depression legitimately was responsible for all these deaths. Again, not denigrating the seriousness of depression. I still believe everything should be investigated objectively before accepting that as the verdict.
1 inteuniso 2018-04-28
One should be wary about murderers using anything as cover, particularly if there's a conspiracy to keep it hidden afoot.
1 Tookmyprawns 2018-04-28
But this ain't a baffling death. So what is your point?
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
Have you read into this at all?
1 zachij 2018-04-28
I agree that depression can be pretty powerful but I still think at the very least the fact that he died not only on holiday with best friends but on royal Omani property is definitely something that matters
1 Mynsfwaccounthehe 2018-04-28
He was avicii, it's not like partying and being in exotic places was something new.
1 Hownix 2018-04-28
agreed. He was obviously unhappy living a celebrity Life that many would kill for, Also depression doesn't give a fuck if your the biggest baller in the World, you can still be unhappy.
1 Upupabove 2018-04-28
Did you watch his doucumentary ...at the end he wasn't unhappy at all...he said he felt like he was 18 agian and finally had piece. Also he said he felt wonderful and his health was way better ...he'd had spent over a year eating right and working out, meditating and counseling at the end and was finally living the life he wanted.
1 Hownix 2018-04-28
So? Depression isn’t like chicken pox. It can come back you know.
1 Censoredreddit2k16- 2018-04-28
Don't pull an Aaron Swartz on us.
1 WeeklyOracle 2018-04-28
oh please. Some magical illness that defies all logic and can be used as a justification for a death in any circumstance! You need to use logic once in a while and his "suicide" just doesn't add up, you can't conjure up some magic disease that in all situations causes death.
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
"Magical illness", you're one of the fortunate people who have never experienced chronic and/or acute depression before. You're right it is magical, in how it can invisibly devastate your mind and life while never leaving a mark on you that could justify the suffering your life has become. Extreme depression can literally cause brain, heart and cardiovascular damage- despite being some intangible, made up illness in the eyes that have never been haunted by it, magical is evidently real. FYI- don't talk shit about what you don't understand. On the other hand, I agree- it's definitely used as a cover for foul play and very potentially has been here.
1 zdh 2018-04-28
I bet he is one of those people that will suggest “Just stop being sad” when someone mentions they are depressed.
1 TypeCorrectGetBanned 2018-04-28
You're not the only person who has ever suffered from depression and this is a really useless comment.
1 willo494 2018-04-28
Did i say i was?
1 TypeCorrectGetBanned 2018-04-28
No child, you did not. You just assumed that because you suffer from something and understand it that you can then see everyone in the same light as your experience.
And it's stupid.
1 willo494 2018-04-28
As I said on my next comment I'm going from my own experience, idiot.
1 TypeCorrectGetBanned 2018-04-28
Your experience is your own and has nothing to do with Avicii, idiot.
You wanting to kill yourself doesn't translate to "anyone with depression obviously just killed themselves, no need to think further."
Idiot.
1 RecoveringGrace 2018-04-28
Rule 10
1 zdh 2018-04-28
All these people think you just go “oh but I can’t kill myself because of ‘insert arbitrary reason here’”. Literally nothing matters more than the feeling of release from the agony you get when depressed.
1 willo494 2018-04-28
Yes!
1 rodental 2018-04-28
Suicide in the sense that if you piss off powerful people they kill you.
1 the-sharkbot 2018-04-28
Who did he piss off though? Was he even trying to fight for something good? Sounds more like tragedy than foul play.
1 amoebassassian 2018-04-28
I was a DJ in a large city for a number of years, I've opened for a few big names and played small and large clubs as well as raves.
Free booze and drugs were the norm, always. Some have it in contract that they must have party favors, others will say they won't go on unless they get this or that, despite contracts. These guys were making anywhere from a few hundred dollars a night, up to 100k a gig depending on how big they were.
Drugs and booze were standard, period. You don't get to play gigs without smoozing a promoter in the back room and you do that by doing coke with him or his buddies, that's the way it is. I've seen super shit DJs play all over the States because they have a good cocaine connection and have the ability to speak to anyone, not because they are good at what they do, but because they know the right people and have the gift of gab.
The club world is overflowing with cocaine and drugs, it what runs the people that pay to get in, it's what the promoters are doing, it's what the artists are doing. Getting caught up in it all is so very easy. Staying sober through it All? Good fucking luck. He was a kid with a problem and in this industry there are no sober nights.
I feel this is a distraction from what I dunno but are we really surprised that this kid ODs after living the life for so long? It took me years to get sober and I left the scene completely. I feel for his family and his dog, but he had a choice and chose to relapse it happens every hour of every day.
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
I'm not sure how closely you've followed his story, he'd already come back from the precipice drugs wise (minus an appendix and gall bladder from hitting it too hard) and there is no information I'm aware that indicate it was suicide by overdose.
1 nuclearsprout 2018-04-28
Yeah, your post is bullshit.
1 amoebassassian 2018-04-28
Haha! Okay random stranger, enlighten us then.
1 mrsnakers 2018-04-28
No one has said that he OD'd so there goes your rant about yourself.
1 B-Clinton-Rapist 2018-04-28
Wasn't it widely known he was an alcoholic recently getting back on the wagon?
1 amoebassassian 2018-04-28
I think this is all a distraction from something, all celebrity gossip is and I'm sorry if I came off as an ass. The nightclub industry is heavy in drug use/abuse, it's a lifestyle I feel he relapsed, or had sudden complications from his prior lifestyle.
1 marko34 2018-04-28
I have friends in the industry. I know that everything you say is true. Especially this:
I'm also old enough to recognize your username. Oaky's Courtyard mix was always a favorite. ;)
1 Upupabove 2018-04-28
Watch his documentary...at the end he want using anything and he had been healthy for over a year. He said he felt like he was 18 agian, he isn't "od"
1 rootone 2018-04-28
An outsiders perspective on his families statement that some felt insinuated suicide: they were commenting on the fact he was troubled by existence and he self-medicated. I don't think there's anything more to it than that, and the reality is partying/drinking can and will catch up.
1 alienrefugee51 2018-04-28
That much is obvious.
1 ericthemidget_ 2018-04-28
Red pilled as fuck in that thread. It’s a microcosm of what researching a conspiracy burdens you with. Fighting the msm and twitter drones
1 dezorg 2018-04-28
people kill themselves.. it happens
1 _my_name_is_earl_ 2018-04-28
Unique perspective. #woke
1 cmjordan3988 2018-04-28
Hunter S. Thompson invited his kids and family up to his house for a get together, he went into another room and shot himself.
1 aaaaaaaaaaanonymous 2018-04-28
TIL
1 cmjordan3988 2018-04-28
The more you know ☄
1 helveticalTrump 2018-04-28
But did he?
1 Tookmyprawns 2018-04-28
Yes.
1 chrysanthemum9 2018-04-28
Supposedly
1 Steroids19 2018-04-28
Oddly enough , Hunter s Thompson is a known mk ultra practitioner. He is heavily thrown around by celebrities in songs. Also c avscii means the depths of hell in Buddhism . Just throwing these out there . Mk ultra is known for causing suicide .
1 ifyourheadexplodes 2018-04-28
He also may have directed a snuff film. And the shit about pineal glands is super suspect.
1 Shibbian 2018-04-28
He had made it well known that he would do this one day. Don't think that takes away from your point, but I'm not sure dude was as ready to depart this world as HST was. Then again, I know nothing of this guy and I'm basing my assumption off of OP's homework and testimony, so I could be wrong.
1 the-sharkbot 2018-04-28
I didn't even listen or follow Avicii too much, but even I knew that kid had depression bad. Aside from him "loving dogs" and having music planned out, is there any evidence that he was messing with something over his head? There's not a lot of foul play signs and he's been known to go heavy on drinking and drugs.
I totally believed Chester and Chris were murdered but avicii just sounds like a tragic succumbing of the DJ life. Chris and Chester were digging for something that is rampant with the elites, Avicii just seemed to be a normal artist.
1 Upupabove 2018-04-28
He also referenced a concern for human trafficking, made statements about it and directed a video himself about it.
1 the-sharkbot 2018-04-28
Okay, that's a little closer to something that could get him killed.
1 treeslooklikelamb 2018-04-28
Sigh at these responses, I guess we're r/mentalgymnastics now
1 xxThe_Dice_manxx 2018-04-28
Found this interesting:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/04/blind-item-2_23.html
1 Sabremesh 2018-04-28
Could be the explanation. He "insulted" a well-connected Omani (a royal even?) who had him murdered. The local police and pathologist covered it up.
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
I've heard some of crazydays content is effectively fan fiction, but I could believe this one quite readily.
1 Upupabove 2018-04-28
Lots of them are later revealed when they go public, so there is at least some credibility there
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
Absolutely- maybe what I heard was just cointelpro of some kind.
I think RDJ's posts are always legit, it was the other I read that can get imaginative at times.
1 SPINE_BUST_ME_ARN 2018-04-28
Ok but why would "they" (whoever they may be) want him dead?
1 theoreoman 2018-04-28
One of the sad realities of suicide is that the highest risk is when people start to feel better because it is then when they have the motivation to end it
1 thatguyad 2018-04-28
Sometimes people make the ultimate rash decision. Sadly it happens.
1 lmh999999999 2018-04-28
I have seen "news" about his speculated connection with bringing attention to child trafficking. It seems to all be centered around the theme of a couple of videos he has released. See this thread for more: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8dycrw/avicii_made_2_videos_on_human_trafficking_before/?utm_source=reddit-android
There's not a whole lot of solid evidence on this one but it is worth looking into seeing as how much better he seemed to be doing. Foul play or not, his passing is a tragedy.
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1 vivek31 2018-04-28
Who is he? And how was he a threat?
1 _my_name_is_earl_ 2018-04-28
Electronic artist that gained a ton of popularity and is behind a bunch of songs you probably didn't realize were him. Can't fully answer how he was a threat but I can tell you that one of his music videos featured child sex trade victims getting revenge and killing their captors.
1 Upupabove 2018-04-28
Where did you watch his documentary ?
1 Upupabove 2018-04-28
What happened to his brother?
1 GodEmperorScorch 2018-04-28
I just find it weird they haven't released a cause of death. With Robin Williams, Chris Cornell and Chester Podesta they said suicide by hanging within a day or so. Suicides of celebrities are always reported immediately. I think he was killed for offending a rich Arab royal accidentally or intentionally. Dude was worth 85 million and a superstar DJ who probably had an ego if annoyed or provoked.
1 irrelevantappelation 2018-04-28
I share that experience. I also know that depression triggered suicide has been used as a convenient explanation for otherwise baffling deaths (e.g the Chris Cornell/Chester Bennington combo)
1 Hownix 2018-04-28
So? Depression isn’t like chicken pox. It can come back you know.