Sounds like you just broke rule #10

We're relying on the benevolent dictator method right now.

I agree 100% it's a bullshit rule, the type a totalitarian dictatorship would implement. I just got my comments on taking a vegetative state child off life support and lettting it die by starvation vs. euthanizing the child so it doesn't suffer deleted by mod /u/RecoveringGrace. I am in favor of euthanizing the child rather than death by starvation and apparently I'm "advocating an illegal act"

I should be able to be critical of that type of dipshit decision and the moderator in general. It shows extremely poor judgement and is not in keeping with the spirit of this subreddit.

Maybe our mods would consider a once a moth shouting match sticky?

I would want to ban comments from the sticky that complain about about trolls and shills since we do that on a daily basis.

Obvious shill

Rule 10

Rule 2. Also rule 2 on myself.

I'm a mod.

If the mods had any respect for themselves or the people of this sub they would immediately step down and let us select 100% new mods.

Just use ceddit, it should show all comments, or the mod log to see what was deleted.

The irony is fucking rich actually. I don't typically post or comment even though I check the feeds multiple times a day. You can no longer debate a topic or agree to disagree like the civilized intelligent human beings so many people pretend to be. So I keep most of my thoughts to myself and just scroll the feeds looking for those little informative truth nuggets a person can stumble upon here :)

Ditto

If that was true this post and your comment regarding it wouldn't be here and no one would be reading or commenting on them, now would they?

You are also misinterpreting and misconstruing the nature and purpose of that rule.

There is a great deal of difference between constructive and inoffensive criticism compared to any openly contemptuous ridicule or mockery of either the sub or it's participants.

If that was true this post and your comment wouldn't be here and no one would be reading or commenting on it, now would they?

You are also misinterpreting and misconstruing the nature and purpose of that rule.

There is a great deal of difference between constructive and inoffensive criticism compared to any contemptuous ridicule or mockery of either the sub or it's participants especially by people who only come here for that very purpose.

The rule is enforced the same way though. I've been ridiculed and mocked on here and when I defend myself, my comment gets deleted, but the person attacking me, that's fine. Though I suppose the difference is I don't report people for rules violations, and the person I responded to almost certainly did.

Though I suppose the difference is I don't report people for rules violations, and the person I responded to almost certainly did.

This is spot on.

u broke the loose-ends script-bot : / ...lately I wonder if there are only a few dozen real people through here a day anymore.

broke what now?

Of course you can debate a topic

I believe 90% of the internet has become exactly this. No one can agree to disagree any more. You're no longer allowed to have differences of opinions. I think this is in part a result of the bubbles that social media places people into.

What happens to our species without civil discourse?

We become the singularity

I think it came about from shill brigades from TMOR, Politics and TD hitting us hard whenever the narrative shifted from whatever they were trying to push.

So start your own sub

Not really. That's like saying, "Don't like YouTube? Make an alternative!" Totally unrealistic.

It took 10 years for r/conspiracy to grow to it's current size. It's just not practical to start a new sub. Look at the size of all other conspiracy related subs. People like this sub because it has a huge reach and potential to actually get the word out about atrocities committed against humanity. Good luck spreading the word anywhere else.

ok reddit admin

You can do exactly what you are saying, however, context and intentions (among other things) are taken into account. This sub is far less "Authoritarian" then you may think. You can appeal bans and comment [removals]. Each takes x amount of mods voting to reverse said infractions.

It appears to me, that you have preconceived notions of this sub, the community, and mods.

I bet.

Always use throw aways. I'm on #7

Bullshit. Even in this very thread my comment is "shadowbanned" about an abusive mod /u/recoverygrace who clearly needs removed from the mod team. You're not being honest here and just doing damage control. This is the most fascist totalitarian conspiracy forum on the web.

This post is a great example of your point. It is critiquing the rules of the sub, and yet, it is not removed. It even has some negative comments that look brigaded to me, and yet, it is allowed to persist and thrive.

I've been very happy with the content on /r/conspiracy, except for the weird times when ALL THE SUDDEN, the whole sub is inundated with Flat Earthers, or CNN apologists... and then... they're gone, just as suddenly.

I've never seen a constructive critique banned.

Not really

When something is free; you're the product.

Troll post? Did you even read the rule?

Posts that attack this sub, users or mods thereof, will be removed.

Critiquing and attacking aren't the same thing..

Critique - evaluate in a detailed and analytical way.

Attack - an aggressive and violent action against a person or place

I can't speak from experience. Cause i've never got a post deleted or got banned on my throwaways. And as much as i agree to the above mentioned difference, its not a ver clear line.

Agression and violence are nowadays terms that is not strictly defined anymore. Some people might define violent in a very different way then others.

Some people might classify certain critiques and opinions as a violent statement.

As an example: "This person shouldn't be allowed to work in that company anymore"

Is this an attack on the person and calling for his resignation?

Like i said, I'm not saying this sub is doing this wrong. As i dont have specific of any banned posts.

I'm just saying that just citing the rules and definitions you just made , doesnt intrinsically mean that everything is just.

I agree, 'attack' is a very subjective term, I guess its down to the integrity of the mods for them to show discretion.

That's a slippery slope.

Well, so long as you can construct and word a post which critiques this subreddit and the moderators in a way that reasonably details what you think is not good, and it offers the opportunity for civil discussion and potential change, then it should be all good.

I’m certain the mods will delete a post like that.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time you've been wrong, so at least you're probably used to it by now.

I've had posts like that deleted repeatedly, as you know. :)

You haven't been that great at constructing posts. As you know. :)

“should be” If the gods feel merciful that day, perhaps.

Indeed, in my time here in the past few years I've seen so much meta discussion and posts critiquing this subs, it even get ridiculous at times.

Posts and threads like "This sub is filled with political bullshit conspiracies, lets talk about something more fringe", "This sub has gone seriously downhill recently", "This sub or the mods suck in X way", "This sub is compromised"..... many of which are not even good critiques but simply dumb meta circle-jerks without any real constructive criticism.

Attacking the sub and its users is a completely different ballgame and I'd say it should continue to be removed. Especially posts like "This sub is cancer", "Everyone on this sub is retarded", "You people are stupid"....what kind of productive discussion can be made from such posts or even threads?

I blame the mods for being jack shit shills.

There aren't. The one that pretends to be one of us I have personally caught posting pay links in this sub. Several years ago there was shake up on the mod team and ever since then each one of the new mods has been a complete and total fake account jackass. I wouldn't be surprised if our mod team was controlled by TMoR vets at this point.

All the mods who disagreed with the Admins were forcibly removed

That is not what rule 10 means. In my time spent on here in the past years, I've seen plenty of posts critiquing the sub in numerous ways. There is so much meta discussion on this sub sometimes it can be ridiculous honestly.

Rule 10 explicitly states that the sub and the users thereof cannot be attacked, which is very different than putting forth constructive criticism.

Attack = criticise to most of reddit's userbase.

Its thanls to the tmor brigades.

My critique is your clickbait title get to the point bro

On one hand, this sub questions everything.

Atm it works fine, a lot better than some more heavy handed subs actually. I read rule 10 as attacking, which is a bit different from critique. As i have seen posts hit front page bringing to light some bullshit of shills and bots over running posts so some critique is allowed, just not attacking.

If your critique is harsh and becomes an attack its rule 10, you can still question this sub, at least thats what current wording of 10 leads me to believe.

I mean, I've seen some posts on here that can't even be supported by basic reproducible physics experiments. I've pointed these things out before and been called the shill.

This place is a lost cause by design. They want to keep critical thinkers isolated from the masses so they aren't stumbled upon. They want to keep second amendment supporters isolated off YouTube so they aren't stumbled upon. They want to carefully shape the perception of what is normal and put as many walls in place as possible to keep purple from peering over them.

When the NAZIs took over the sub they put that in because we were trying to tell everyone.

Yeah man we all agree. There have been quite a few questionable mod additions/general shakeups that have happened since the election. Personally, I think that there are a few good guys in the mod team, and they're trying their best to work within a system that is more and more heavy-handed and dictatorial under the premise that "it's our site/sub so we can run it how we want to", ignoring the obvious fact that the sub is entirely the product of us, the users. But, that being said, no moderation is a bad thing because, of course, the JIDF/ShareBlue/MMFA/Military shills are things (randos: Don't attack me because I didn't mention "Russian bots". I live by objective reality and not what I'm told to think so I only list what I know to be true) and were we to forget that, they would spam and vote manipulate us more than they are already capable of doing.

I advocate for people to learn more about meshnets and long-range routers/repeaters for just this reason. The internet - now that is has become a hive for the chattel masses in the wake of smartphones - is dead because people with money finally realized that they can use it to get what they want out of a society. We need to decentralize by creating our own uncensorable meshnets, because for one, yeah, the censorship and blatant dishonesty of sites like Reddit, or, really, the internet as a whole, sucks, and for two, it would remove the "normies" by the simple virtue of being more complicated than "push this button and now you're online".

but you literally just did?

Now imagine being banned for that.

That rule is specifically for comments calling others shills or saying shit like "you're all a bunch of wackos lmao loool".

You are obviously critiquing this sub in this post. Since it is thoughtful, it will not be removed. Rule ten is almost never enforced, and when it is, I generally agree with the moderators.

The rule is, you cannot "attack" this sub. Criticism is common, and sometimes welcome.

I'm a mod.

Attack = criticise to most of reddit's userbase.