Legit question. How can We lose??

1  2018-05-11 by TheBirdmanArises

Other than by doing nothing, that is.

46 comments

We lose by numbers.

When there are more Hispanics than any other race in this country, they will have the voting power to make anything happen.

Well you got that right!

Blacks, hispanics, etc. - we all lose when we think in these limited terms. Being black or hispanic or something else doesn't necessitate compliance with a corrupt hierarchy. So if these groups, or any particular group thinks in those terms, they're just setting themselves up like the Egyptian Scots in trying to build yet another hierarchy to fall. We need to stop that shit.

What a bunch of Racist bullshit, Maybe if we had better schooling, and a more educated voter base we would have a better country, But no its the lazy Hispanics.

Maybe if we had better schooling,

I used to teach actually, so I know some of the in's and out's of how it works.

The kid with 2 involved parents in their life were miles ahead of the kid with no involved parents in their life just on day one of kindergarten. You can guess which races had more parental involvement than others.

I also went to private and public schools and private schools by far give you a better education, because they have to in order to stay in business. If parents aren't happy with the job they are doing, the pull the kid out of the school.

The kids from richer school districts will also almost always beat the pants off of kids from poorer school districts too.

Stuff like no child left behind and forcing teachers to pass kids to the next grade are disservices to the kids. And increased class sizes and cyber school are awful for learning.

and a more educated voter base we would have a better country

The SAT scores by race and Average IQ by country maps don't lie, except for China who plays with their numbers. That's a lot of catching up to do.

If you are making under $50k, I don't think you should have kids unless you are willing to be poor or to live on government assistance. Hispanics and Blacks have kids at the youngest ages and Hispanics have a much higher fertility rate than Whites and Asians.

What happens is:

  • An umarried person, usually from a poor background, gets pregnant at a young age before they have the means to take care of a kid.

  • They have to drop out of school or miss school. This delays their graduation, which makes it harder for them to find any real job.

  • They obviously can't afford this kid, so they have to get government assistance.

  • They get comfortable living off the government and realize the more kids they have = the more money they get. And as long as there's a Dem in there, the money keeps coming.

  • Even if they try to change their ways, they are fighting a losing battle. College is expensive and because we have a much larger supply of workers than what the demand is, they end up competing for minimum wage jobs against people who already have degrees and work/internship experience, and they usually lose.

  • At this point, they might as well stay on government assistance.

And this is why we must remove the welfare state.

If your version of winning only involves your tribe winning, you've lost already. Doesn't matter what your tribe is.

If your version of winning means candidates I like go for 0 for 50 in an election, then I want to lose as much as possible.

I've seen allot that argues against your assumption all Hispanics vote Democrat. They are a minority, no doubt but allot do vote R. Let's hope they crush the mold.

I've seen allot that argues against your assumption all Hispanics vote Democrat.

70/30 is usually seen as the split.

President Trump would have won 0 states if only Hispanic or Black votes counted in the 2016 election, while he would have won 42+ states if only Whites voted: https://imgur.com/a/YrtzIEu

They are a minority, no doubt but allot do vote R.

Not enough to win a single state, which means almost none.

Would you say there are obvious signs this is changing?

Would you say there are obvious signs this is changing?

Reagan said in the 1980's, "Latinos are Republican. They just don't know it yet."

After 30 years, it appears that's not the case.

Well, respectfully I hope your are wrong.

Why, because supporting the top 1% while they tell you your crumbs are coming has been working so well.

He won't be for a few reasons. The propaganda going around the U.S. that anyone that's not white who is a conservative has something wrong with them is one thing. The second is that the rate that the demographic is shifting at makes assimilation impossible. You can't replace 20% of your population in a few decades and expect to do anything except basically import another nation. Hispanics that are replacing whites come in such large numbers that they largely encounter so many others in the same position that they don't experience the same cultural aspect of immigration that would normally happen under a slow, controlled, low-population immigration. It's true that anyone can come to a different country and truly assimilate into it's culture but only if they experience that culture. The areas that are experiencing massive demographics shifts are doing so in such mass numbers that they experience what is essentially just an enclave of their old countries instead of the new one.

R vs d. Wake up my dude

The propaganda campaign made so obvious this last few years is the key.

We cannon be governed without our consent. It is 99.9% a thought war.

And they are doing a magnificent job of keeping us hating each other not them.

And every night they go to sleep laughing at us because darn, that theft of the 2016 election has probably worked.

And they rightfully believe it is because they convinced so many to hate people of a different color, religion, sex.

This time they aren't even bothering to build up a big fear case against Iran. They will simply go and do. That is how successful the manipulation and propaganda has been.

all you say is true. but all you say is a list of things that we can all easily improve upon, that "they" cannot stop. for instance, we can just decide not to react like programmed/triggered robots. each of your points can be dealt with.

our collective ignorance is in not realizing that certain organizational patterns corrupt. we deal with this single design problem and we greatly minimize its effect.

applied diligence to better, transparent systems is a sure fire way to achieve the goal that most of us want - a system we trust.

Thanks for your thoughts. I don't think we should ever "trust," that is why the checks and blame thing mostly, kind of, sometimes worked for a goodly number of us.

But the rich don't like losing power and they resorted to a decade of assassinations followed by 4 decades of created character assassination and attacking liberal ideas and the elimination of liberal ideas from the information system via control of news another information sources.

decade of assassination

  • 100

they kill us. yes. because we're defenseless. that's ending.

They have haven't had to do much more than lock large numbers of poor and working class citizens and look how far they have come.

It is only a thought war.

man, you write concisely!

anyway. there's a tipping point for everything, particularly things that "become obvious".

This is something that is being withheld from the noise called news.

All the "opinion polling," has been fake for several years now.

And they don't seem to realize even their own voters are pissed and don't fall for the stories used to keep justify the acts.

I try to keep it short because my typing skills are so poor and none of us like to read too many long comments. I make so many errors. Thanks

A problem I notice with both the older generations and the "millennial" is neither care about the truth. All that matters is that "their opinion wins" and everything else gets slandered with random logical fallacy. Which is essentially what Plato's Republic cast as it's cornerstone, 23 centuries ago. "Certain organizational patterns corrupt" indeed!

TMZ, Kardashians, Hollywood, etc. As long as American's worship celebrities and extreme materialism the elite win / control the messaging.

Samson option is a concern.

They can also crash the economy, but that needs to be treated as a terrorist attack.

Samson option is a concern.

this is one of the devices preventing action. but look where it's gotten us? so that's out as a general concern, imo. people just want it to end at this point. they've blown their wad.

They can also crash the economy, but that needs to be treated as a terrorist attack.

actually this would be the best thing to get of the currency hegemony they've set up. so i wish they would do that and bring people to the conditions that enable creative thought under pressure - the very thing they have no D for.

Ha! I really like your attitude. Whatever obstacles are there, we will overcome them and build a beautiful world.

honorable world or death

Well, the way we have been losing is letting what seemed like miniscule rights and freedoms disappear through regulations and recess laws that "were for our bennefitt". O more. Trump is using the same tactics daily to return power to the citizens. It is amazing how much he has undone in under two years that has acumilated for at least 20. We read ad learn to understnd the constitution and bill of rights... Yes, things they do NOT DO IN PUBLIC EDUCATION anymore. We do jot let others walk on us or steal our rights while congress is out on Christmas vacation. This may not be the entire answer, but its a beginning.

Exactly what action from Trump has returned any "power," to the people of this nation?

How we can lose is by being divided by social engineering using racism, sexism, and trying to make people stupid, and propaganda. We can lose if they try a biological warfare. They are winning in poisoning our food and drinks with GMO foods and water not being clean. Water with sodium fluoride and medications in our water. Forced vaccinations. There are ways they are winning right now against us.

yes they can make us react more than we'd normally react. they can "teach us" to react instead of our natural instinct to understand. but we can self-learn to stop this pattern.

they can poison us. but we can gain knowledge about how to grow food.

they can spray our fields. but we can grow under glass.

they can try to make us hate people who look different. but we can talk to those people and let them know we personally don't believe all that shit.

etc. and so forth...

Your right. There are probiotics and prebiotics to resist against the Splenda (sucralose) and Aspastame and other toxic sweeteners. The GMOs, the toxins in soft drinks, and toxins in flavored water, is killing the good bacteria and good gut flora. So people are trying to find a way to repopulating the good bacteria to stop the gut problems people are having all over America and the parts of the world with using GMO. Monsanto is slowly killing us but we are trying to go for non-GMO foods, boycott Ritz crackers and boycott Mountain Dew for usage of genetically modified ingredients. We can find ways to get our health back in order without being forced to always take medications. Type 1 Diabetics cannot go on candida diets as they are required to have some kind of glucose so another way to do this is coconut oil and trying to go to more natural sugars instead of processed sugar, and as well as natural fruit glucose. There are ways diabetics can survive and get rid of candida. We can defeat the good bacteria killing GMOs and toxins in our foods and drinks.

every single way in which we are affected has a pathology that can be understood and addressed. it will eventually lead to people growing all their food under glass in controlled situations. but hey. at least it'll be addressed then.

the elites brought us here. this is their pattern. we deal with it or we die. simple choices, really.

Yeah we have to peacefully resist these people with a information war.

We all need to get our facts together and start fighting them with facts so that they cannot take us down and they cannot call us crazy. We can fight back with the right information and the NWO people don't want that.

we actually don't need anything from anyone. there's nothing to be given us. we have to give ourselves capacity.

first step is self-sufficiency and getting away from gov rule. basically remove yourself from the systems they've set up. wish it weren't that way, but the people in charge are fucking idiots or satanists. so that means exchange networks that don't involve currency and are built around a more balanced paradigm.

every single war nowadays is a currency war.

every time a person tries to spin a new independent currency they get shut down.

so the first step is to bypass currency entirely. how this looks? i dunno. i think it's probably organic. i think we're dealing with personal networks. and at least we know this - that the controllers can't scale (because they're fucking hierarchical and thus rare) their "common" touch.

in short. build systems that can't be gamed by automation.

How we can lose is by being divided by social engineering using racism, sexism,

At this point, you've already lost.

> globalist uses feminism

"Well guys, can't be sexist. Let's just accept it."

> globalist uses mass immigration

"Well guys, we can't be racist. Let's just accept it."

Your vision of an egalitarian society plays right into their hands. You are a racial and sexual communist.

Just look at who is being deplatformed from every major payment outlet and social media platform. (hint: it's not people that you describe, because you guys don't scare the globalists, not one bit). The only people who scare the globalists are fascists, racial nationalists and advocates of patriarchy.

actuly we should do nothing, nothing all stop reacting to them/it.

We are too divided. Until people ubite nothing can happen. We are too busy fighting over little shit

Agreed. It's the easiest way to keep us from rising up is to fight amongst each other.

My biggest example is trans in the bathrooms. Literally never been an issue until something needed to be manufactured

Their symbols will be their downfall

indeed they will be

You will be tricked into rooting for the tyrants and rallying against your saviors.

You will be tricked into rooting for the tyrants and rallying against your saviors.

i'd rather not give any tips away, but what you say is doubtful, to me.

anyway, why do you think this? and how do you think they'll trick myself and others?