Critical shower thought about wikileaks... please disprove my theory. Wiki leaks has to be controlled opposition.

1  2018-05-12 by swordofdamocles42

ok so bear with me I'm trying to get this all down before it leaves me....

  1. wikileaks HAS to controlled by tptb.

the big giveaway is that it is centralized. like everything they do. its the whole system in very few hands (assange supposedly) this is their hallmark. they want to control everything and always want power (or in this case - information) into fewer and fewer hands.

  1. what they are most worried about>>>> (truth getting out(whistleblowers))

think about how many of us truthers their are now.... we should be seeing whistleblowing happening all over the globe at unprecedented rates. but all we have is assange and maybe Q who I'm sure are bad actors

  1. how would they stop whistleblowing? (think about how YOU(they) would stop whistleblowers.

they only way I can think of is to set up a premier whistleblowing organisation and gatekeep the information coming through. allowing to eliminate people and information at source.

if anyone else were to set up a wikileaks it would be shut down IMMEDIATELY please don't dare to prove me wrong you will be in a world of trouble.

if another wikileaks were set up, they would immediately flood it with false information.

  1. on a side note I was thinking that they must already have other contingency plans for this too...

for example why give us the internet and give us a brief age of information.. sure they have all but shut us down already but that was a big risk.... they must have another way too to shut us up so be careful and aware.

so solutions ....

I only spent 5 mins on this so I'm hoping some others might have ideas going forward.

what we need is a decentralized way for people to leak.

every town and city has a drop box set up by us(outpost)... the truthers.

as info comes in to your town... either post it online. or if its too spicy. distribute to every other outpost and let others decide if they dare post it. or maybe someone can think of a way to post anonymously.

thoughts please.... am I way of the mark? any thoughst to improve this theory greatly appreciated

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wow genius. totally works. it's a functioning model.

Meshnets?

i reckon you have to take it for granted that the comm is going to be intercepted and your sec is in how you encode. it's a language issue, of sorts. it's not network dependent.

that said, if one wants to create an adhoc mesh net it's as easy as spinning up hostapd.

please don't downvote without saying why!!!!

Assange was recruited by US intelligence when he got caught hacking the Pentagon systems when he was younger

What if it's the Russian NWO who controls them?

Theres a theory Wikileaks is ctrl'd by the FSB/SVR and are useful idiots whose dissent is being capitalized on

NYTimes huge story 9/2016: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.html

Best theory breakdowns:

  1. https://medium.com/war-is-boring/has-wikileaks-been-infiltrated-by-russian-spies-b876a8bc035a#.ipfyxsr9p
  2. https://20committee.com/2016/06/11/edward-snowden-is-a-russian-agent/
  3. https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/07/edward-snowden-is-a-russian-agent.html
  4. http://20committee.com/2015/01/12/snowden-and-russian-intelligence-an-update/
  5. http://20committee.com/2015/08/31/wikileaks-is-a-front-for-russian-intelligence/
  6. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130910/13145824474/former-nsa-officer-wikileaks-is-front-russian-intelligence-snowdens-probably-spy.shtml

WL threatens to leak Russian info in Oct/Nov 2010 http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1026/WikiLeaks-ready-to-drop-a-bombshell-on-Russia.-But-will-Russians-get-to-read-about-it

Reddit had HUGE thread on it: https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dwolw/wikileaks_ready_to_drop_a_bombshell_on_russia_but/?

Moscow sent VERY SERIOUS threats to WL and they haven't said a SINGLE bad word about Russia since:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/01/russias-fsb-to-wikileaks-we-could-destroy-you/

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2028283,00.html

So far Russia has had no official response. But on Wednesday, an official at the Center for Information Security of the FSB, Russia's secret police, gave a warning to WikiLeaks that showed none of the tact of the U.S. reply to the Iraq revelations. "It's essential to remember that given the will and the relevant orders, [WikiLeaks] can be made inaccessible forever," the anonymous official told the independent Russian news website LifeNews.

Did Wikileaks get cold feet?

WL never hesitates to embarrass NATO countries

What changed in 2010?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/11/30/moscows-bid-to-blow-up-wikileaks-russians-play-by-different-rules.html

Why in Dec 2010 did Medvedev suggest Assange be nominated a Nobel Prize?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reception_of_WikiLeaks#Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize

Reddit had a thread on this https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ej3ks/russia_calls_for_wikileaks_founder_julian_assange/?

"Public and non-governmental organisations should think of how to help him," the source from inside president Dmitry Medvedev's office told Russian news agencies. Speaking in Brussels, where Medvedev was attending a Russia-EU summit yesterday , the source went on: "Maybe, nominate him as a Nobel Prize laureate."

Ever wondered how/why Assange got a RT talkshow in 2012 After he threatened to expose Russian secret documents?

How did Assange have connections to house Snowden in Russia?

http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-told-snowden-to-stay-in-russia-2014-5

Was WL started as a Russian OP?

I say no

Has it become one?

Looks that way

Even the Saudi leaks are looking a little more suspicious

http://www.newsbred.com/shia-sunni-angle-india-and-wikileaks

Saudis are a Western ally. Iran is pro-Russia. Look at the Oil Price War b/w Russia and KSA

Who leaked TPP? Who is TPP not including?

Russia & China

*Who leaked the Sony pictures files?

WL

Theres a consistent anti-Western tint here

Why did WL post how CIA spies travel?

http://news.discovery.com/human/wikileaks-publishes-cia-tips-for-traveling-spies-141222.htm

Boris Nemtsov met an ambassador on Russia-US ties & WL reveals it https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09MOSCOW1497_a.html Then assassinated years later

Malware servers from DNC hack linked to Bundestag hack via Russian intel: https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/756892523885240322

There are Phillip Agee vibes from Assange/Wikileaks/Snowden

WL doxxed John Brennan's family http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/21/wikileaks-doxxes-cia-chief-s-wife-and-daughters.html#pq=T9jQM0

WL & Anon twitter accts infighting over WL constant support for anti-western talking points:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks_forum/status/666337141962706949

Anon accts shames WL for this tweet:

https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/666076431433252865

https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/666035812887339012

Anon retweets suggesting that wikileaks toes a distinctly Pro-Kremlin line:

http://imgur.com/a/5a8u1

http://imgur.com/9CfqrDi

https://twitter.com/cjcmichel/status/757016594031730688

Fmr WL worker Daniel Domscheit-Berg fell out w/ Assange & had problem w/ the only Anti-Western views

WL scrubbed docs: http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-russia-bank-2-billion/

Assange protege Sigurdur Thordarson was an FBI informant

www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-wikileaks-mole-20140106

Thordarson accosts Assange:

https://twitter.com/singi201/status/382925421123489792

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rp1oe9

...WL fights for Justice but still the Editor In Chief of WL is running from Justice for those women in Sweden, he's breaking laws by breaking he's Bail Condition, WL claim they have no polticial ties to any government/or political party and im not saying they do, but it is strange that WikiLeaks host's an TV Show on Russia Today, which is operated by money from the Russian Federation, and still no files about Russia has been reveled, nor Ecuador or Venezuela,, WL has published information, Some here say that documents revealed by WL showed War Crimes, that it self is partly true, 95% of the data that WikiLeaks has published such as the Iraq and Afghan War logs, Diplomatic Cables don't show anything illegal or wrong doing, the rest 5% maby 1-2 % of that show something that's illegal, the rest might show some wrongdoing, perhaps not illegal, So Yeah what Bradley Manning did was illegal that can't be debated, did he get the treatment he deserved ? Hell no, Should he have been charged like he was? Yes, why? He revelaed hundreds of thousunds of classified information that did nothing but embarress the US, If he would have leaked only information that showed act of War Crimes, then i don't think he would be in the some positions as he is in today, but though getting a sentance from 136 years to 35 years roughly,...

Fmr WL worker finds ties w/ the Russians suspicious!

Why did Snowden say this when he got asylum?

https://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Edward-Snowden-to.html

Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders.*

Russia? Venezuela? Bolivia? Nicaragua? Ecuador? Bastions of freedom?

Snowden has 11 days he cant account for when in Hong Kong, but at the Russian Embassy

One of the FIRST stories about the NSA docs didn't come from Greenwald/Poitras, but the South China Morning Sea.. His campaign about domestic intelligence integrity started by revealing chinese espionage?

CIA Agent Bob Baer (inspiration for Syriana) thinks Snowden flipped when he was working in Geneva

Collusion w/ RT & WL stories? https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/789992650178867200

DHS and ODNI: Guccifer 2.0/DNC Leaks work w/ WL


  1. If WL is getting info they don't share, they lie about their mission

  2. If WL is a Russian intel front, they get free intel from leakers & whistleblowers under the guise that WL will help them but hoard it instead

  3. WL is allowed to curate disinformation via edited docs & fake narratives w/o context under the guise of "journalism"

If WL was honest about bias, no one would debate WL as an objective source of info. They filter the narrative they want to push. Always ask: "What do they have to gain from sharing this info with you?"

Everything Wikileaks had was hacked by Israel during the JCPOA negotiations. Clinton's server was revealed by Israel bc it had talks with Iran on it. Israel thought it would discredit the Iran deal. After that didn't work, they did everything up to the point of just an all out assault on democrats to get a republican to end the deal which trump did. We know Israel worked with Cambridge and that they hacked Congress the white house and both RNC DNC. If it was Russia, they would of leaked both sides to cause chaos, but only democrats were hit. Plus Russia is Iran's ally. Unless Putin Trump Netanyahu made a trilateral agreement, Wikileaks being FSB GRU is silly.

A lot of this is outdated/wrong. With some dead links.

For example, Wikileaks didn't get cold feet with the Russia release, they're right here.

For the most part, this is just a copy&paste gish gallop attempt that goes nowhere.

They never released any Russian docs. The guardian article is about the diplomatic cable leak.

according to leaked secret diplomatic cables that provide a damning American assessment of its erstwhile rival superpower.

Right, the dailydot, who claimed that they could prove it with chat logs, which they never released.

Ok coming to terms that Israel and Wikileaks have

You can also embed the info in block chains that can't be deleted unless sha256 had been beat.

If so then why is Assange holed up in an embassy? If he was part of it all he's be able to love freely?

because he can't be around forever or the psyop will fail. they need a way to bag it up.

do you really think he is going out with pammy anderson?

What's that got to do with anything?

because its obviously a scrpted theatre for the masses... in the meantime nothing is getting leaked. ANYWHERE.

So then why did they make the fake rape accusations against Assange?

because he can't be around forever or the psyop will fail. they need a way to bag it up.

do you really think he is going out with pammy anderson?

This is anti-Wikileaks disinfo that is being blasted due to Assange having no internet, allowing rumors to spread more easily without him being able to defend himself. Just like the rumors of him being dead/arrested the last time his internet was cut. Move on.

Move on.

You can always recognize them by the commands that they issue.

What, am I a Russian bot or whatever?

No. You’ve made a lot of assumptions. Even if somebody swallows a few of them for the sake of the point, you’ve made a huge assumption that there must be tons of whistleblowers.

But let’s go so far as to even assume THAT one is true. Even if They were crawling all over DC, they have spent many more years watching the corruption and watching others who whistle blow go down or get murdered. They’re not like you, where they’re just suddenly realizing shit. Seth rich was fucking murdered outside his house for going to WikiLeaks.

Slow your assumption roll. You’re just getting started, and you need to sit back and use your powers of observation for a while.

your assuming i meant political whitleblowers every industry has them... and we need to make a safe enviroment so that people can blow the whitle safely. the fact that this is NOT done already says it all.

No. You’ve made three assumptions. They may be true, they may not.

We can agree it needs to be safe to blow the whistle. We can also agree it’s not currently safe to.

Potential murder is a powerful motivator.

the lady doth protest too much....

Critical shower thought? You mean /r/c_s_t?

well i was in the shower at the time...... i have heard the saying from somewhere.. heh

Biggest red flag to me is the Julian Assange called 9/11 truthers annoying.

First off, the extent to which government, intelligence, and military whistleblowers have been persecuted and prosecuted for revealing corrupt and criminal activities that have been classified or fraudulently covered up in order to keep them from ever becoming known is enough to make anyone that inadvertently uncovers such things to think twice about risking their lives or throwing away any possibility of still having anything like normal one if they were to ever openly expose it.

The prospects of whistleblowing even under more ordinary circumstances where someone stumbles upon some corporate corruption or deliberate negligence or frauds are equally dim with the possibility of being sued and having to spend a fortune to try and defend themselves and being blacklisted and shunned in terms of what they'll be able to do for a living afterwards no matter how honest, competent and reliable a person they were.

And just what are the odds on it actually having something like a positive outcome if they do? Obviously the closer to the top anyone that's guilty of such things is the less likely they are to ever suffer any consequences for it as we have seen time, and time, again.

WikiLeaks has provided a relatively risk-free way for any and all whistleblowers to anonymously pass along and publicise that kind of information. It along with Assange, it's founder, also been constantly under siege both by governments and law-enforcement looking to shut them down for doing so any way they can.

yeah, its organized crime. you would have to be crazy to rat.... so why not put anonymous drop boxes all over the web in a decentralized manner.

the only reasons are, that Wikileaks is part of it. sad to say. :(

If it is, it's not because it started out that way but because it's finally been compromised and infiltrated by the US government, just as Assange has been compromised and silenced by the US government putting serious pressure on Ecuador's government.

i disagree. it was set up to gatekeep. we will see in the coming years.

peace

I think we'd see some evidence of that if that was true, meanwhile a great deal of embarrassing information has in fact come out about the CIA an NSA in particular as well as the NSA having all of it's hacking tools hacked. These weren't things that either the agencies or the people at the top in the government ever wanted known, nor that many commercial software makers hadn't been informed about numerous potential exploits that put their clients and data at risk. I have a difficult time calling that "gatekeeping". I also don't think that Assange's troubles are a hoax or that the desire to extradite and prosecute him isn't authentic. HRC and many others were very obviously pissed with him both off and on the record, but as you say, we'll have to wait and see.

no one cares what you THINK. the truth is that tptb would never allow someting like wikileaks unless they controlled it.

Right, the dailydot, who claimed that they could prove it with chat logs, which they never released.

because he can't be around forever or the psyop will fail. they need a way to bag it up.

do you really think he is going out with pammy anderson?