Contest mode to address vote brigading?

Alex jones has done more in the past year let alone half of his life for the freedom movememt. The man is a traget of GEORGE SOROS, Hillary called him out by name and Obama has. Alex has risked a lot and has done more than Q TARD. So lay off of the guy. No doubt hes jealous about having some cheesy insider Zack that all his listeners know is FULL OF SH*T

Jeezzz you guys...

Peraonaly alex has red pilled and woke more people than anyone else. The man deserves a little RESPECT. Quite honestly he pretty much got trump elected

Alex Jones is a hack whose loyalty lies with whatever will fatten up his paycheck.

As for getting Trump elected, he was just a useful idiot. He thought he had it made since he was able to talk to Trump, went all in on the guy, and as soon as Trump won he had no use for Jones anymore.

Jones made a video of him fake crying over Trump being "compromised by the deep state" and literally includes the fact that he doesn't call him anymore.

Watching Infowars for quality conspiracy material is like visiting /r/incels for relationship advice.

The guy is a piece of human trash, and I hope he loses ALL of the money that he has sucked from the gullible mouth breathers that believe his acting, and buy his snake oil. Sure, he should have a voice, this is America after all, but freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. If he truly is the “patriot” he claims he is, he can broadcast on am radio, or ham radio, or whatever, if he is relieved of all the money he has made on the backs of false accusations and unproven conspiracies.
And Q, LOL, the need that these inbred moron Trump sycophants to LARP is truly incredible. I am so surprised that the Jones contingent and the Q contingent are not forming like voltron to have crazy, stupid, incel, Jordan Peterson, red pill/mens right’s, non PC, kek babies, you know......for libtard tears...

So now this sub is promoting QAnon after he's starting to get exposed?

Fail.

Are you not entertained though? Just sit back and enjoy the show. When the revolution has finally reached peak saturation point t of awakened and united folks ready to roll, then I'll be getting up off my chair. Until then, enjoy

Have you ever considered fomenting insurrection? It will keep you busy until the insurrection begins.

Nah not really. I think meme wars is where it's at for now. Zognald Trump at the very least disrupted the radical alt-right Fascist's plans for a bit, while simultaneously enraging then even more and making them grow in numbers, and tbat has caused far-right folks to grow in massive numbers as well as a reaction, so we've stepped into a sped up version of one side or the other rising to power in Gov in a crazy fashion that equals Sesame credit, censorship, illegal to criticize Israel like just passed in South Carolina, spread of radical Islam, etc.

Shit is going to reach pique flash point by the time Zognald gets his 8 hears wrapped up

In the mean time, learning to garden, shoot, hunt, fill my own ammo, live off the grid, prep hunted game, sharp shooting, gun smithing lessons, brewing beer, and having an exit property both within the states and abroad in case the 2024 Victor ends private property.

I'm thinking Hulk Hogan Vs The Rock as next prez

God, I love you.

God, I love you.

Haha, I love you too. Love is good and its how we will win in the end

oh boy too much truth here, i predict a high downvote to rebuttal ratio on this tip-top comment

Yeah, I too feel a bit weird about this.

My account (computer_d) has been banned from here for debunking the mod's sticky.

Something incredibly dodgy is going on with this sticky.

Removed. No Meta.

1. Any discussion about the sub, its mods, or reddit.

A discussion can't hurt imho. I honestly doubt he is legitimate, yet I have to also honestly say that I have never really looked into the whole thing deeply enough to have a good unbiased in depth opinion on the subject. The r/greatawakening sub (where they talk about Q) turned me off of it to be honest, because it in many cases (not by all users, I digress) was filled with mindless Trump worship.

I assume the reason this is being discussed is simply because a lot of people believe it and are talking about it. I mean that sub alone has a huge amount of subs for a relatively new subreddit.

My account (computer_d) has been banned from here for debunking the mod's sticky.Something incredibly dodgy is going on with this sticky.

A ban for that may be a bit much, but if you've read this thread, it does have its rules. It's a no meta thread and for a reason - so it doesn't devolve into discussions like this that lead to nowhere and are unrelated to the subject at hand. Your comment should have been posted on the stickied comment, as per the rules of the thread.

Again, I think a ban is too harsh for this, but your comment was rightly removed because it wasn't posted under the stickied comment (as it was meta territory).

It's also best to state your mind about Q rather than attack the mods. If you think Q is a LARP, then you can say so and discuss it freely without moving into meta territory.

Removed. No Meta.

that sub much like T_D turned into a zionist cesspool

Removed. No meta.

Any discussion about the sub, its mods, or reddit.

Calm down there eager beaver and read the rules of this thread.

links pls. I don't follow QAnon closely so I'm interested on whats going on. ty in advance :)

https://qanon.pub/

One of the things I would say about Q: If Q is a LARP, a phony, he has never drawn attention to himself. He's always said don't glorify us. We work for you. Most of the people that I know who are LARPS and phonies, they want attention. They want to take the glory. They want to be seen as Important and smart. q as never wanted to take the glory for anything. He always points to others. He has thanked the anons. He has asked people to pray for the anons, to pray for the president. He's never drawn attention to himself...I could go on for days about the proofs that Q anon has posted hundreds them. But you know, more than the proofs, looking at Q's posts and getting Q's information has helped me interpret the news, interpret world events on the global stage. Q has helped me understand what the plan is, the big picture plan...I find it kind of fun to follow Q and to do the research. It's interesting to me. What it really does is it gives me hope. It gives me hope that their is a plan to end all these wars. There is a plan to end corruption. There's a plan to prosecute bad people.

From the first link.

While that is all fine and good, it does nobody any good if the population is simply waiting for a "big plan" to unfold while remaining pacified, without actively spreading awareness and finding ways to make our society better and less corrupt.

Whether Q is legit or not, whether there is some plan to end it all or not, the dangerous part here is that many people will use Q as an excuse to do nothing and just watch as events unfold, thinking it's all "under control" and everything will "turn out alright", when that could very easily not be the case at all, especially not without the participation of all of us.

As I wrote in another thread on CST that also discussed Q as well as the hope and fear that come with it - in my view, both fear and hope trap us and bind us, often making us passive. For fear it's obvious enough, but people generally see hope as a positive thing. As the great Zen monk Thich Nhat Hanh spoke - hope again keeps us in the future, and away from the present.

We can allow ourselves to have some hope in order to get back on to a lighter road from even darker states of mind, but ultimately even hope must be let go of. In hope we are letting go of our powers as the creators of our destiny, personally and collectively, for all of us. We are also focusing on an imagined mental image of a future where salvation will arrive. But that salvation can only be present now. The deepest salvation is there when time is dropped, both past and future, fully.

Slowly you drop both past and future and your life becomes better, your intuition sharper, your choices superior as a result. You slowly come to greater peace, compassion, joy. But all of this comes from letting go of what is in the past and future, including hope. This then gradually (or quickly for some) leads to freedom and peace, as well as better, more harmonious life (and globally, society).

Thich Nhat Hanh spoke - hope again keeps us in the future, and away from the present.

Some prominent conspiracy theorists have tagged Qanon hope porn.

With relation to Corsi and Jones;

If you want to know who is behind Info Wars - there is a certain arms dealer known for his genesis companies - a certain boat he owned was sold to a certain person I think you all know.

Enjoy!

Look into the main guests of Alex Jones' Endgame - they are ALL Council for National Policy - and one of them was even the chairman!!!! He's been playing everyone from day one.

This is what CNP/Corsi/Jones get for trying to hijack Q for their own goals.

Defango also exposed Corsi as Q

Oh this is just grand now

Funniest shit I've heard of all week

Defango and Corsi are both attention grabbing bullshit artists.

At least one of them uses evidence...

Mostly I can't abide Corsi, I don't know enough about Defango to say anything.

I don't know enough about Defango to say anything.

He's an illiterate dumbledore.

People really still believe that Alex is owned by some Saudi prince because he liked the name Genesis? That was laughable 10 years ago when I first heard about it.

It took about 30 seconds to look up the incorporation of GCN and see it had no relation.

For someone who took the time to create 4 hyperlinks trying to prove something, you should of tried linking some actual evidence.

Boss with the Lee jeans, bad man, you know V

They say he's a cross between Adnan Khashoggi

And Sho Kosugi, he said your chain is sure dookie

The piece is like a mystery entity, eugh, spooky

Corsi is Council for National Policy - the right wing CFR that is being set up by the likes of Corsi, Jones and others - to be the losing side of the coming civil war. Just a heads up.

I don't know, man, sure seems like they're shoring up all military, defense, intelligence, political, media, and corporate arms in preparation for a coup. I see about as much successful pushback as The Occupy movement. It's gonna be ugly, for sure, but history tends to favor the least ethical side.

Thanks for the great info! I knew GCN was the missing link!

I think users here should really start giving some thought to where they're posting and who is running the subreddit. For starters, mods should not sticky their own personal conspiracy stuff. This should be a given and any mod with any sense would know this. If you'd like an example why: we already had a mod which did this and literally generated revenue by people clicking the links. Nevermind the last mod noms turned out to be a total farce, with the mods choosing people from their own list and in contradiction to the votes they asked users to make.

And now, in this case, we have a mod promoting QAnon and Alex Jones.

QAnon, to anyone with any sense, is a crock of shit. Their 'info' are literally keywords from conspiracies dating back to +10 years ago. Nothing gets proven. No secret info revealed. This has been the case from Day 1 and /r/conspiracy wised up about it and stopped posting about this wild goose chase. But now we have a mod pushing QAnon. Yeah nah.

Alex Jones admitted in court that Infowars is 100% entertainment. Again, like QAnon, it's all hot words and big claims and a big show but zero results. Keep in mind this man harasses the families who had their children killed in a mass shooting. Absolute scum and this subreddit should not be directing users to this man, especially a moderator!

The sub this mod has linked to supports Donald Trump and seems to have the same kind of cult-dazed bizareness as the_donald has including the random capitalisation of words which all follow similar themes of religion, freedom and military:

In their rules:

AMERICA WILL BE UNIFIED AGAIN! Please PRAY for those who would lay down their lives to protect our FREEDOM.

Thread titles which the same capitalisation and the same off-hand remarks in caps like the_donald (see the third example):

That's a lot of big guns to take down a mere LARP!
Reeeeee
Devin Nunes' behavior poses a danger to the US, James Comey warns – True Pundit GETTING NERVOUS COMEY?
Our U.S. President Donald Trump: A Man of His Word...Again...Embassy in Jerusalem = Done = BOOM!

Also, the majority of the users in that subreddit only post to that subreddit.

I don't look at all this and point to conspiracy but I sincerely hope people here apply some critical thinking about what this mod has posted and why.

Jerome Corsi pushed qanon hard on the cbts sub. Not sure where the idea of him being anti q in October came from. He was analyzing q drops for months.

My guess is that whoever is behind qanon had a disagreement with Corsi about monetization. Hence the fallout

I know he was disagreeing with Q on some things but I don't exactly when it flipped but now I hear he's about to dox people?

Corsi flipped after Q post 1295, which was a non-specific warning regarding factions taking advantage and shepherding. The pattern in Q's messaging is to be loyal to patriotic principles, not parties or personalities.

^ THIS!

I think most of us believe it was completely self-inflicted. He responded to what he considered a "slight" by going nuclear to the point of threatening to dox the board owner at 8chan.

Dude!

Ahhh. Do you think Corsi knew what was coming for him at that point and decided make it known first? Just speculating.

Q referenced a user on a Q sub to explain, essentially. In short: Corsi is an extension of whatever faction Alex Jones is in. Listening to Corsi led you to Jones.

Well, who coined the term conspiracy theory? That's the answer.

Whoever killed JFK pushed "conspiracy theory." Wink wink nudge nudge 😉

✊👋👋✌✊👌

> Although content from both QAnon ... doesn't get much play on r/conspiracy

Really? Because from Oct to Dec of last year, people were waiting on baited breath for his every pronouncement, and each appearance he made generated a long thread filled with commenters taking all his claims at face value.

It's only been in the past few months that this has cooled down.

Which is crazy, because many of their predictions have come true in the past few months, so it really shouldn't be dying down. The conspiracy community is enthralled with Q throughout the internet...except for here. That should tell you something.

and each appearance he made generated a long thread filled with commenters taking all his claims at face value.

Source?

How many sources do you want?

#Qanon - 11/12/17 latest drop - November 2017 - 342 comments

Another Qanon Drop!!! - November 2017 - 211 comments

Latest Q Anon drop. - November 2017 - 483 comments

The Rothschilds are taking Q anon seriously - December 2017 - 425 comments

Q is back on 4Chan.... here is the latest. - November 2017 - 606 comments

Latest Q - December 2017 - 290 comments

It seems like Q is saying that everything's in Trumps hands. That it's all a go. He's waiting on the collective consciousness to shift enough for the Pill to be SWALLOWABLE - WHY? Do you know what the pill is? That your politicians rape kids? That your government procures them? Get fucking ready - November 2017 - 239 comments

PatriotAnon Q Clearance bread crumbs compiled - November 2017 - 322 comments

Q Posts, Expect Fireworks - NYC Explosion Next Morning - December 2017 - 205 comments

Fresh Q drop. (2nd one today) - November 2017 - 218 comments

So pointing out that Qanon was pretty popular but not anymore without extensive sources is now mudslinging. As one of the most active users and top mods on r/conspiracy, it must be hard to pretend that you weren't aware of the massive surge in Qanon followers and posts here half a year ago.

so then you agree that what you said about Q not getting much play here is inaccurate?

These are all from LAST year though. There was a hard shift against Q acceptance, one that seemed inorganic.

You are a bad mod.

You must have the internet.

Q anon is an psy-op. When people start predicting dates (11/11) I get off the bandwagon. If you have been involved in the conspiracy community long enough you should know that this has happened hundreds of times before. But enjoy your giant disappointment on 11/11/18.

Yup. Waiting for dates is a fools game.

Maybe Q-anon is really John Titor!

You'd have to be a retard or a sayanim to call the crap coming out of netanyahoo "Authentic"... doesn't strike me as a retard...

It's important to elaborate on how it's a psyop as well. What is the ultimate purpose?

Well, from what I'm seeing, it benefits the elite that our culture is vastly divided on the issue. Some think it's real and will passionately defend it out of a desperation for a savior or some kind of hope, and the rest of us just want to help others understand that they are being "played" and tricked into following a false prophet.

It also seems to generate a "cult-like" support for the current administration and the POTUS, which benefits the establishment because they are essentially converting conspiracy theorists into rabid defenders of the government. This tells me the establishment is having trouble keeping the masses supporting their puppet president, so they have to find a clever way to "recruit" new followers, or else we could all unite under skepticism/rejection of the POTUS.

It's all a charade, and I'm glad people are finally seeing past it, but I think at this time we can just stop talking about it and it will hopefully fade into background noise.

hope wrong administration.

My guess is that the psyop is directed towards conspiracy "researchers" to redirect them from looking too deeply into Trump's activities with a skeptical eye. You're right about the cult-like support which seems to be largely faith-based.

Lmao

Wow dude I can't believe Hillary is in jail! Q rocks!

Furthermore, this information really started to gain traction right around the time that Backpage and Craigslist's personal section was shut down. They were shut down to combat human trafficking, which probably was happening, but QAnon I think was created to create support for this action.

The pimps and brothels will still exist, and if anything you could say shutting down those sites actually benefits the wealthy brothel owners who are now back in the driver's seat of the sex trade.

That was done primarily to stop pedophile and trafficking transactions which is not something people go down to the local brothel to conduct.

Oh I get it, but what I said is also true.

That's true. But I think there's a calculus of the lesser of two evils. Also, I think local LEOs can deal with brothels in whatever way the community deems appropriate, whereas the kind of international cabal behind these big syndicates is really beyond their scope of operations.

I think at this time we can just stop talking about it and it will hopefully fade into background noise.

I’m feeling pretty tired guys, how about we all just get some sleep?

Boom. This is spot on. My theory is, they are dangling the carrot on a stick until the Mueller stuff comes out and then inciting civil uprisings among Trump supporters.

When people start predicting dates (11/11) I get off the bandwagon.

Why do you get off the bandwagon once they start saying things that are falsifiable? Do you stay on the bandwagon if they keep saying a bunch of vague stuff that can never be confirmed?

Careful, comrade. You're getting awful close to the ((((meta)))).

But enjoy your giant disappointment on 11/11/18.

I guarantee there will be no disappointment if nothing of import happens on 11/11, either because some minor event (after the midterms???) will happen that believers will latch on to, or any believers will conveniently forget or deny 11/11 was ever a serious prediction, despite being pushed into the sidebar of their sub.

It was just deliberate disinformation guys, honest.

The world could get literally split in half and if I were watching it go down from my coffin rocket I'd still think Q is a psyop and AJ is a misdirection

But enjoy your giant disappointment on 11/11/18.

That date is Veteran's Day and the day of Trump's big military parade in D.C. It's been known for a while.

So Q (or his fans) is correct in "predicting" that "something big" happens on that date. The problem is that it's not really hard to predict it, since it's public knowledge anyway. And the parade is nothing more than military fetishism. But I'm sure Q fans will love it.

What they're saying is that by that date, the better part of the domestic portion of the Alliance operation against the deep state will have been completed, and will be publicly known--in time for Trump to survive the election, and in time for our returning military to celebrate.

That isn't the date of some major victory in the war on corruption and the deep state. It's a marker for a turning point in our republic. Kind of the beginning of the long climb back from the meshugas that must happen between now and then, for which I'm sensibly strapped in with popcorn.

Is it a psy-op still if it's just some douche rping on 4chan?

Well some dude Roleplaying on 8Chan because "muh deepstate took over"

He roleplays on Twitter aswell "Victory of the Light" and Kabamur Taygeta, obviously the same person, if not just some friend in kahoots.

What if something does happen? Will you just say coincidence and move on or will you believe more?

Funny thing is Victory of the LARP, a related person (which had a whole shitstorm back April last year) and butt-buddy of QAnon kept saying that November 2017 was meant to be some game changing shit where "ayy lmaos" (Aliens) were meant to "BTFO" the Deep State back in November 2017 (and then February, then March, then April) and obviously now it's been updated to another fake prep date of 11/11/18.

Alex is a good man.

I dont believe your a patriot. No patriot has that much hate and discontent in themselves. You refute the fact of anything positive hes done.

You sound like a Hillary supporter

Why Alex Jones need to discredit Q when Q already does a fantastic job of discrediting Q?

Alex Jones is a state sanctioned disinformation agent, and Q is a state sanctioned disinformation campaign. This fake "drama" between the two is more phony baloney bullshit to confuse us all and make us question who/what is "real" and who isn't.

Little do they know, it's not working this time.

Nailed it on the first sentence

You don't need to build him up by saying he's state sanctioned. He's just a successful blowhard. He says crazy things because people what to hear crazy things. You don't need to invent a conspiracy theory to explain the obvious.

Yeah. I wouldn’t say he’s sanctioned or anything, but obviously he’s harmless enough that he’s left alone

It's just obvious. Go to sleep, agent.

Removed. Rule 10.

You don't need to invent a conspiracy theory to explain the obvious.

No inventing needed to see that Alex Jones is a CIA psyop / Cointelpro. His history and behavior prove time and again that his real purpose is to discredit conspiracies and make conspiracists look crazy (and right wing).

You don't need to invent a conspiracy theory to explain the obvious.

No inventing needed to see that Alex Jones is a CIA psyop / Cointelpro.

Ok so aside from your own opinion, what evidence links Alex Jones to the CIA?

And dude, learn your history, COINTELPRO was FBI.

If you're going to make the accusation, support it.

Regardless, it's time for Jones to shut up and quit being a snake oil selling fear monger.

I always question the trendy conspiracies that pop up..

This should be the top post.

;D glad there's still a few recognisable usernames about.

Haha. Always waiting for grain to form to go against it and alert the creator of it. ;)

Kindred spirits once again.

Anybody who buys into Qanon needs to donate their brain immediately to someone who can use it better.

Removed. No meta.

What a fantastic tag

So this person leaks Trumps talking points but no substantive intel. Hurmmmm. Could Q be part of Trump's social media team? Maybe this creepy motherfucker? Dan Scavino Maybe...

Hands, does anyone fascinated with Q know what "cold reading" is? Not rhetorical. I'm seriously asking: have any Q fans here ever heard of cold reading? Anyone?

Not a fan. I haven't followed him. Just these comments gave off the CR

Baron?

cold reading

Yes, and there's much too little interpersonal interaction for that to be the case with Q.

Also, behind the "rabbit hole" revelations about the deep state, there's a focus to the rest of Q that is too rigid to work with that MO. The actual Alliance war we're witnessing exhibits FAR too much coordination to be international "business as usual." There is a REASON we're not all dead from WWIII right now, and it's not because Q is lying to us. It's FAR more likely that it's because Q is telling the truth, and there really is a last-ditch coalition of humanity against the evil overlords.

Given that possibility, I'm going to take a serious look at what might be a signal from within that operation letting the rest of us know how it's going.

Really can't see why that's a problem. If it's just a LARP, humanity is circling the plughole anyhow, and we'll all be gone in a few years. Why not cheer for an Alliance against the Cabal?

It's FAR more likely that it's because Q is telling the truth, and there really is a last-ditch coalition of humanity against the evil overlords.

I'm a little bit impressed at this.

Screw (((Q))).

You can't mossad the Assad.

Removed. No meta.

If someone is truly on the inside or has information they are not going to go all Nostradamus quatrains they are just going to post the information anomalously and move on never to be seen again under that tag for fear of being outed. Now someone who wants to be noticed and followed will do just the opposite, they will say very little except what their followers want to hear while simultaneously saying nothing. I put "Q" in the second category.

Do you really find Q all that hard to understand? Or are you just stating an opinion based on second-hand experiences? No disrespect intended, I just want to know. Have you actually spent some time with it?

I think it deliberately started with disinfo in order to drive away those who have thin skins for disinfo. That wasn't the ONLY reason for it--I believe it met other operational objectives too--but it was a good reason to begin on such a note.

So if you're willing to endure the disinfo (which I have to say has not been frequent), it's really not at all hard to understand.

The autists on 8chan are actually helpful, if you're not bother by the adolescence of it all, and beyond that there's always good old internet search skills. And places like r/greatawakening/ where you can discuss the posts.

For every objection my brain could come up with, there was a corresponding plausible answer, and in the end I'm left with the conclusion it might very well be the real deal, no matter how unlikely the idea might seem.

I'm also left with the realization that even if it's NOT what it claims to be, it's not any more harmful than any other /r/conspiracy concept. Maybe less harmful than many. I mean it doesn't condone lawlessness or violence or self harm. So...

I have spent more time then I should from the beginning. I truly believe it’s more than one person and each has different agendas. The originator imo is no longer posting.

The big predictions came and went with nothing happening. The many proof posts could easily be setup by individuals or small groups doing deep research and don’t require inside or secret knowledge. Other posts look like well crafted PR stunts from possible inside or connected players.

Ultimately it’s harmless except to those who are 100% sold on it as a source for news on “the deep state civil war.” The desire to see and believe and interpret coded messages can be harmful or could make certain people susceptible to programming. Hell if you need any proof of physiological control efforts like MK ultra look no farther. The level of group think is scary. Counter points are brushed off. Inconsistencies ignored. And blind faith to trust the plan or love your president. All of these are control methods to influence people. That’s the real conspiracy. I see it in the donald too. Not all the members or contributors but a good portion of them surrender rationale thought to group think. It’s scary as hell.

IDK. I see pretty lively discussions in well-moderated groups, and surprisingly little "sacred" dogma.

Also, I think it's a bit unkind to the Q folk to tar them with the brush of some kind of special susceptibility vs. the general population.

Mind control? Really? I haven't yet seen anybody start believing anything they didn't already believe in a general sense. People aren't being "transformed" by it, so where's the mind control?

The worst case I can imagine in that regard would be "pacification." But I think if Trump were working in total opposition to the Q message, people would get pretty pissed, no matter what.

I just don't see the kind of motive or result I would associate with mind control, or cults, or any of that. No money at stake. I mean, what's the nefarious motive?

Anyhow, concern noted, but I'm still taking my chances there, and so far I'm not doing anything weird. LOL

It's definitely not harmless. When the Mueller stuff comes out, these people are literally going to think they are in a good between good and evil and Trump is on the good side.

No doubt. It’s like group hypnosis. They are constantly reaffirming each other that they are right and in the high ground of a fake war. That’s why I liken it to mind control. They will not believe anything contrary to their ‘belief’ system. Not all of them but enough to be concerned.

The most diabolical part of this is that it has caught on enough at a high level that the administration can follow (not drive or control) and actually act on requests to re-affirm the fable. It’s like a magic card trick where both parties are in on it but never actually meet or talk beforehand. It’s super convincing when seen from the outside.

Yea it didn't take me but 2 days to realize it was a mind control operation. They are making sure there are still blind Trump supporters when all the Mueller stuff comes out. I've been saying this forever. Trump will incite Civil War if he thinks he might be going down and now with the help of Q, they'll really think they're on the right side. I've been trying posting in there trying to get people to see that Trump is what he appears to be. I've gotten some people to listen and the ones who try and debate me, they don't last very long. I have EXTENSIVE knowledge about Trump and his supporters because of my childhood. My father is basically the archetype Trump supporter. A paranoid, narcissistic authoritarian and I was his scapegoat that refused to blindly take his abuse. I learned everything about his psychology and his belief system. In a weird way, I feel like I've been preparing my whole life for this. I've been trying to expose Trump since before he won the primaries. This whole thing is so ironic to me. The right always thought that when the next America Civil War happened, they'd be fighting against a corrupt government. Instead, they'll be fighting to maintain one. I believe in the dark forces Q talks about but Trump leading that movement is a total misdirect. The forces behind getting Trump elected are actually fucking genius. They used Obama as a red herring and the arrogance and hatred of the religious right to put in Trump right under their noses.

I feel the same way too. Hopefully it’s just paranoia but it sure seems like it’s a possibility at this point.

My dad has had a hard on for this supposed Civil War to "take our country back" for decades. He is not alone. There is a whole segment of America who think just like him.

So you are saying Q is like the mainstream media? If you can tolerate all of the disinformation, occasionally some real news gets slipped in? Hmm, no thanks count me out.

Ok guys, I've been quiet around here for a while but I gotta chime in here. I've been there since day 1 of Q's appearance, and quite frankly, I don't see how anyone takes him seriously.

The reason so many people are infactuated with Q is that he has been keenly predictive in many instances, like Trump's tweets and such. But it's these little coincidences that are blinding you to the truth. NONE OF HIS MAJOR PREDICTIONS HAVE EVER COME TRUE.

According to Q, Hillary should be in jail by now, a militia should have risen against Antifa, the 1000+ plus sealed indictments should have had every deep state member in jail, and patriots should have full control of the govt by now.... Do you guys even remember "the 4th"?

And I won't even get in to the cryptic messages he started sending about 6 months ago. Do you remember at first he would speak in coherent sentences? Then he resorted to >>P Alpha, they speak >>11/11 day of reckoning >>F needs to be brought down, Country In Arms is on our side.

I too was there from day 1. Shit was intoxicating, esp due to proximity to the LV shooting.

The longer it went on, the less sense it made. And now it's just an entire subculture of its own. There are Q beginner vids, entire online ecosystems of information (and some ad money) "explaining" this thing.

Literally none of the "predictions" happened. There was always a ton of confusion as to wether Q said the thing that was in the tweet first, or if the tweet came first. I would see the same "voices" I continue to see promote the whole thing sharing screenshots with fucked up time zones, and all kinds of rationalizing of the timeline despite anything being definitive.

From there it took off and became literally bolsheviks 2.0, or Brownshirts 2.0... would not be surprised if tptb are setting up the well intentioned q cult to be the arbiter of the next global bogeyman.

This is so funny because I think everyone in this thread seems to be missing the point of it

And what is that?

Logic and critical thinking

Is it logical and critical thinking that leads one to make several erroneous claims based on what appears to be misinformation, fear-mongering or just downright fabrication?

Amazing how this thread has been locked at 0 for some time now no matter how I vote for it...

It shows 41% upvoted. The post vote count dosen't show negatives. Instead it simply shows 0.

Huh? Are you arguing that when you upvote it, it should show a score of "1"? That's not how Reddit works, there are no negative post scores. This post has way more downvotes than upvotes, so it's going to show a zero unless and until it gets a net positive number of votes.

Removed. No meta.

I've been there since day 1 of Q's Trump's appearance, and quite frankly, I don't see how anyone takes him seriously.

FTFY

Sounds like those "predictions" are more of a wish-list. Which should be indicative to their goals and intentions.

Well if you go back, Q did make some predictions with dates about stuff like this, but none of those predictions came true. But nowadays it’s so cryptic that’s it’s impossible to tell what he means at all, if there even is a meaning.

Because its not necessary. The themes or objectives are obvious. The community does the "making sense" part for them. It's cultish behavior.

How do we even know it's the same person? Didn't they stop posting on 4chan at one point? Like how do people even know which Q is real when anyone can do trip codes or whatever on 4Chan

Thanks for saying this, it stinks of total shit to me as well. The idea of Trump as a savior is pretty crazzy

Q has also posted that disinfo is necessary, and the posts are just as much for the opposition as it is for "patriots." The 11-11 date is a marker for a phase change-- most believe it will be when our country starts to unite. Q is a psyop, aimed at a specific portion of the community: those who love/support the Constitution and consider democratic transfer of power to be sacred. If you don't believe there is a "swamp establishment" and problems with corruption in our country, then Q isn't for you.

Common themes that Q pushes is to 'Define Patriot', "unite," and "Pray." I'm on the Q subs and TD, and Q hooked me when I started seeing the intent of the psyop... to trigger an awakening and guide pro-Trump memetics, all grounded on preserving the Constitution. Once again, if you think Trump is the source of corruption, then the psyop's aim is to convince you there is.

There was a sticky on a Q sub lately that was saying 'thank you' to Q debunkers. I was fooled by WMD narratives during the Bush years. I wish I would have listened to the anti-war crowd, they were right! In today's media narrative environment there is so much propaganda, and Trump's pattern has been to not be Jeb! Trump fights fire with fire, aggressively so. It makes sense that a faction in Trump's military is attempting to mount a response to globalist narratives. If you hate the Trump agenda (that's ok), then seeing Q as a total liar is expected. Insults don't work on Trump supporters though. For me personally, I need to see your solutions to problems without emotion to have my mind changed.

Lastly, Q is just another human faction, another voice in the noise. I don't let Q affect me too much, except, admittedly, my thirst and hope for justice/unity has increased tenfold due to Q. Since the North Korean war has started to end, that thirst for peace is spreading. I never thought this kind of peace was possible, and I'm still pretty cynical, thanks to the WMD lies. See Q like reading those trashy celebrity gossip magazines, except the subject is geopolitics. I balance out Q by lurking on anti-Trump subs, and I'm always appreciative when logic is used to make arguments, not just playing on emotions.

Trump does seem to have a plan, and I believe Q is part of his strategy. Q points us to not have allegiance to Trump though, but the Constitution that Trump took an oath to uphold.

Oh Christ.

Ah. Q = One of Putin's KGB/FSB discussion board trolls ?

The thing that makes Q unbelievable is that he neither confirms or denies anything. The "research community" deciphers the babble to fit whatever agenda is happening in the world based on who's this and what's that, or follow this, follow that. It would be a remarkable board game like monopoly, but this is real life. Say what you mean, and mean what you say is a much better approach to getting any kind of support. Giving cryptic messages while being anonymous is just too unbelievable to be real.

Alex Jones is a performance artist, I guess that kinda explains him and his motives.

It’s the same technique psychics use to do their readings

Cold reading? He isn't really reading any "one" person though. I've seen some weird typings that looked like bad php code, written by Tom Clancy on drugs . It's the group that comes up with answers to the gibberish, not Q.

There has to be some feedback loop though, even if it's abstract. If you believe Q is a hoax of some kind, Q is writing things that it believes will appeal to it's target. Q would then monitor response from the community, see what gains traction and what doesn't. I agree though, the term cold reading doesn't apply, but it could be similar.

I do agree that some kind of feedback is being given to whomever is involved. It also leaves me to wonder what the reaction is to that feedback from him/her/them. The places where Q has posted from are far from being known as the bastions of truth and justice. Yet, here we are.

It works on vaguely similar principles, but scattershot prediction is even easier. It "works" the same way astrological charts and nostradamus and the dark side of the moon matching up with the wizard of oz "work". If you throw a metric fuckton of vague gibberish at simpletons who desperately want to believe it's all true, they'll do all the legwork and make a bunch of tenuous connections after the fact.

Given enough motivated dingbats, a large enough word salad, and a vague enough topic, it's possible to find numerous links from anything to anything.

More similar to horoscopes really.

Fake psychics*

Actually Q answers most of "his" own questions within the same post or a nearby one. Also, "he" always confirms anon's correct answers by either re-posting their post, or the number of their post, frequently with elaboration.

It's not nearly as cryptic as you guys make it out to be. It's kind of easy to understand, really. I can't help if you don't want to, but in case you do, it's not so hard.

To be truthful anything that is not straight and to the point is just meaningless dribble to me. Their is no need for word games, unless you're playing word games. Especially on an anon site. Giving him choices of answers makes it even easier for him to keep the game going.

That's understandable. It's not for all tastes or brain types. Doesn't have universal appeal. I don't think it's meant to.

Doesn't mean that those of us who get something out of it are nut cases though, LOL!

I'm with you. It has become increasingly understandable.

But that's insane, right?

Here's this huge important issue that the public know nothing about, and the only way to.spread the word is to......not spread it.

But also to tell 8chan exactly what's happening. Because people like you can work it out.

What possible sense could this make aside from someone getting a laugh out of the easily led?

Well surely it helps for there to be somebody to act a seed group during and after the fact, with an awareness of what's happening.

If it were done in a mainstream way, there would be mass social unrest and perhaps panic. The intelligent and socially adept among us (and there are many) are helping to spread the word gently--first to people we know and trust, and then as awareness increases, anyplace we can have a civil conversation. Like here, it seems to me. You seem like a decent human being.

You guys are being used as pawns. Q is using your hatred of the Clintons/Obama and your blind support for Trump to blind you to the real agenda. Don't you find it odd that Trump and Q literally hit ALL the checkmarks of the conspiratorial right wing christian conservative belief system? I grew up with a father who fit this exact archetype. Trump and Q hit every single box that it can't be just a coincidence. They are playing off of those blind beliefs and using them against you. Trump's entire campaign was constructed by people outside of himself. He didn't come up with half of that stuff.

That might be an interesting theory if in doing so it was materially altering our viewpoint of anything. Given that it doesn't, I hardly see how what you're saying makes any sense at all.

But I do appreciate the implicit concern. I mean that.

It's creating blind soldiers for Trump for when the Mueller stuff comes out and you all start a civil uprising because you think you are fighting for the forces of good when in reality, you are just finishing the destabilization of America plan.

I'm sorry but now your concern goes beyond genuine and has become insulting. Nice try though.

I'm dead serious though. I'm not trying to insult anyone. It's just the facts of the matter. Q is painting this as a battle between God and Satan essentially. Why wouldn't someone who believes they are on God's side and the evil forces are taking out God's soldier do something to try and stop it?

Until we all learn to think the way Scott Adams does, we'll never be able to handle (en masse) information from inside this conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMku1TmYQM4

Fantastic point. Q is putting on a show. I believe the intent is to undo demoralization and shape memetics from the patriotic folks.

Even if that was the entire mission objective, I can't see that as a bad thing.

I think if we're willing to concede a positive motive, we might also be willing to concede the possibility that it's not a LARP also.

Say what you mean, and mean what you say

Sounds like a great way to get exposed

Exposed for what? No national secrets have been discovered. Nothing of any significance has been actually predicted and happened. I keep hearing about a plan that no one knows about, but is going to happen. What's to expose?

Thats the point of not exposing yourself. So you don't know.

Explain then.

The entire point of not being super specific is to avoid letting the whole world know who you are.

You can't forget George Webb and Jason Goodman's roles.

Awesome! I have been doing tons of research on QANON since last year and I wish I had some material prepared already to post but I'mma get my opinion out there with the time I have right now.

So if you read Qanon's posts, from the beginning, the first thing he talks about is an impending arrest of Hillary Clinton, among other figures, part of a series of broader actions taken against a network of corruption and treason against the US government. Called "The Storm".

Now, earlier in the month (October 2017) Trump made some mysterious comments to the press at the White House, saying “Do you know what this represents? I don’t know. Maybe it’s the calm before the storm. Could be the calm. The calm before the storm.”

Getting some clarification on what exactly those comments meant made the chans pretty excited, and even though the supposed day of Hillary’s arrest came and went without an arrest, Q was back online the next day unfased and continued to post.

Early on, his posts contained some very interesting things. There was the discussion of Saudi Arabia being players in the game just before King Salman arrested his adversaries, including Prince AlTalwalib, an alleged source of financing for Hillary, in what is now known as the Saudi Purge.

Before I jump into specific instances that may or may not validate Q as a real Q clearance insider, as opposed to being a LARP, let me paint the picture that Q presents through his cryptic, socratic questioning type communication.

According to Q, the United States government and power structures all around the world have been infiltrated by a cabal that practices black magic and runs organized crime syndicates. He refers to individuals from the cabal as black hats.

Now, personally, I’ve been on board with the above statement for some time now. And one of the main reasons some people dismiss Q immediately is because they think the idea of a cabal is insane. To those people, I borrow a phrase from Q, expand your thinking.

There is a second reason why some people immediately dismiss Q, and that is because Q refers to himself and Team Trump as white hats (also referred to as Wizards and Warlocks), altruistic crusaders for the freeing of humanity who will lead us into a new Golden Age.

Now, personally, I find this idea much more difficult to accept.

As a slight digression, there are three possible conclusions we can make about Q at this point. One, that he is a LARP and is doing it for fun, two, that he is telling the truth and is a white hat, or three, he represents a competing black hat faction and is running a PSYOP to gain support for the actions that will be undertaken during The Storm. (A fourth possible choice, that Q is a PSYOP for one monolithic cabal, aka CIA disinfo or something like that, I personally don’t think is valid because the deep state civil war is real and, at least at the lower levels, the cabal is not a monolithic entity).

Ok back to the picture Q is painting. We are currently in the calm, where we can see actions such as hundreds of politicians and businessmen are resigning from prominent positions, a massive and growing pile of sealed indictments are on Sessions desk, reshuffling at nearly every major agency on multiple levels, all as Team Trump prepare to take action. This action, The Storm will be a massive series of arrests of high profile people, allegedly all connected to a global network of bribery, blackmail, corruption, and crimes as sick as child trafficking. National guard will be already active in major cities to keep a lid on the protesting that will occur and the marine corp will help with high level targets. Because the justice system is too corrupt from cabal-sponsored presidents stacking the courts, all will be tried as enemy combatants in military courts.

In addition to this, Q paints a picture of a deep state civil war going on behind the scenes, which Q is on the forefront of fighting. There are a lot of interesting explanations of what is going on behind the scenes than you will hear in the media. For example, Q heavily implied that Trumps aerial strikes in Syria were against CIA and Iranian targets, in coordination with and not in contrast to Russia. They claim that the gang MS-13 is being used for assassinations, such as with Seth Rich, and to commit other crimes but still have plausible deniability. Q accurately predicted a large amount of politicians resigning at least 10 days before the media started reporting on it, saying that they had been “put into submission.”

According to Q, the CIA owned North Korea until Trump cut the strings. Now Un seems so eager for peace because he is free from the cabal to do as he wishes. Iran is next (he actually predicted both the North Korea peace and the nixing of the Iran deal a month before each happened), and apparently the Iran deal was tied with the Uranium 1 scandal, and that an Iranian nuclear weapons program was functioning in syria with the awareness of top western officials, who wanted to use Iranian nukes to be able to take other countries hostage or to leak out nukes with traceable uranium signatures to take out who they want.

He will not say if Mueller is a white hat or a black hat but has pointed us in the direction of IG Horowitz, who is doing his own investigation that will expose election fraud and the Clinton foundation. There are also a few bombs that could be dropped onto the playing field at some point, specifically information from Weiners “security file” the NYPD found on his laptop, and also the alleged existence of a video of Hillary doing something illegal (with suggestions of its contents ranging from as mild as a tarmac meeting between Bill and Lynch to as dark as child abuse)

In fact, Q team has it all, thanks to Military Intelligence, and they are finding ways to get devastating evidence into the judicial system legally. This may involve ploys such as giving evidence to lawyer Cohen before the raid on his office. Trump has been preparing his office to have the power it needs during the storm, such as the executive order that gives Trump the power to freeze assets of criminals with crimes “against humanity”. This can be linked to the amount of billionaires who are donating massive amounts of their assets to registered charities.

As Q would tell it, their team is winning bigly and the cabal is scared shitless.

Before judging the validity of all the above, lets look at some instances I really think eliminate conclusion 1 from above. I am not going to cite the specific q post or context for each of these things because I dont have the time at the moment, but thats good so people can look for themselves and then decide.

* Calling the North Korean peace and the Iran deal being broken more than a month in advance. (“Iran is next” multiple times, and then there is indeed a massive policy and press shift towards Iran.

* Calling the Saudi Purge before it happened

* Predicting the wave of resignations

* Predicting a continuing rise of sealed indictments

* Said Flynn would be cleared in 30 days, 30 days later the House Intelligence Committee says he did nothing wrong.

* Drawing attention to Armenia shortly before the leader resigned (another example of CIA strings being cut)

* Green_Castle interpreted by anons as code that the military would build the wall, proved right a few days later

* Revealed in code (fireworks, BDT) that there was going to be a false flag attempt and the perpetrator was bangledeshi

* On November 20th, anon asks Q to ask Trump to tweet the term “wonderful day”, next day trump tweets something with wonderful and day, not connected though.

* One photo uploaded on Twitter by Trump starts with the letters DOITQ (supposed to be randomly generated), in the photo on air force one Trump is posing with a group of people making thumbs ups, which can be traced in the shape of a Q. Check out the book they constantly upload over on 8chan to see it.

* A very interesting coded conversation with Lynn de Rothschild, who Q calls out with [L] d [R] in a post, shortly afterwords there was a plane crash over the Rothschild estate and Lynn de Rothschild retweets a seemingly random article with the words “stop trying to kill me” on the front page.

* On one twitter post, Trump uses the word consensual, later deletes the tweet and uses the correct word, conseQuential

* According to an anon, the same tweets referenced above were posted at specific times to correspond to time markers Q gave in a post just 15 minutes earlier. I can’t find the infographic at the moment.

* Anon asks Q to tell Trump to use the word tip top in the state of the union, Trump doesn’t, but then uses Tip top, reemphasized as Tippity top, during his Easter speech.

* Q says Soros is targeted, a few days later one of Soros’s top managers arrested for rape and human trafficking.

* Q said, social media blackouts will happen, its ok, then Trumps twitter went down briefly.

* Bush wore a number 43 jersey to the baseball visit to the white house, Obama wore 44, Trump wore 17 (Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet)

* Q has posted lots of pictures from air force one, the scenes in the window correspond to Air Force Ones known flight paths.

Ok. The rabbit hole for some of these, especially the possible coding of Trumps twitter, goes pretty deep. As u/axolotl_peyotl mentioned, u/serialbrain2 has some excellent material that goes into it.

But to me this is pretty conclusive, Q is real. Many individual reasons can be dismissed as coincidence but collectively they cannot be. Detractors will point to the failed predictions about arrests and information leaks but this fits in with the concept of not revealing your moves to your enemy, disinfo for plausible deniability, and maybe its possible that the series of arrests are on a timeline that hasn’t been revealed yet.

The cabal is real, we all know that here. Q is real, and the storm is probably coming soon.

My personal conclusion is that Q is a blackhat, and we are witnessing a coup and not a revolution. It just seems so absurd to me that a new golden age of humanity is going to be ushered in under an ideology of walls and strong military and America first. I think Q is wrapping legitimate deep politics events and trump team insights into a PSYOP meant to trap people waking up to conspiracies into a hateful alt right ideology, and to radicalize a base to rabidly support the incoming military tribunals.

That being said, I think Q is very valuable. The crimes Q claims will be revealed are going to be 100% real, even though the decision of who to arrest and who not to will be politically motivated. I am optimistic that, with disclosure of the cabal to everyone, many people will be able to see through the false dichotemy of God Emporer Trump vs. Russia made up all the evidence.

I’ll organize all of this more in the future. Thanks for listening.

Removed. No meta...

You're welcome! What is your opinion on Q?

Very well structured, interesting and insightful comment. I have never really looked into Q in depth but this gives me a good outline on what it's about.

Thanks for posting :)

Your welcome, it can be a pretty dense topic to wade through, especially considering the community's intensity. On the 8chan qresearch board they have a book available thats a compilation of all of Qs posts plus some context I recommend. Neonrevolt is also a blog from someone who seems pretty level headed in their decodes.

Thanks for posting all that. I think it's much simpler. Old money neo cons vs nuvo riche Team Trump sometimes in cooperation when Trump remember he's a puppet and can't say we'll leave Syria so he symbolically bombs an outpost with Russian missile defense shooting them down. The US EU are too sunk by now in WorldRunning. The Sectarian rift amongst Muslims is real. Team Russia is a unified front to check any and all further action from the Neo Cons. There is no need for cabals and NWO stuff. It is as it was and Russia's back and here to stay. Their strategic alliance is getting W after W and the old guard is confused and pissing in the wind.

Sports jerseys - Obama 16

Obama 15

Obama 13

Bush 7

Clinton 96

Sometimes they have presidential number, sometimes the year, sometimes another significant number (1 for first time winning, 2 for 2 times etc).

Don't forget Blunt and Direct Time!

Q made a post about an impending false flag with the words *B*lunt and 4*D*irect *T8ime on top. Said to expect fireworks. The next day, or two days later, a Bangladeshi man detonated fireworks on himself in NYC. The currency of Bangladesh is BDT.

Yeah this is a big verification for me

But how many of these things actually happened, or weren't low-hanging fruit predictions that could be tossed out at any time? I wasn't familiar with a few of these, but the rest can easily be explained without turning to a "Q Clearance Patriot" secretly embedded in the Trump White House.

• Calling the North Korean peace and the Iran deal being broken more than a month in advance. (“Iran is next” multiple times, and then there is indeed a massive policy and press shift towards Iran.

There is no "North Korea peace." There are talks, and a shift toward a ramp down of hostilities, but that's happened before, and the status quo has always returned. And Iran has been "next" for a decade. Remember John McCain singing "bomb Iran?"

• Predicting the wave of resignations Resignations have roiled Trump's campaign since the moment it started. He went through three campaign managers. He had people quitting a month after he was inaugurated. This is low hanging fruit.

• Predicting a continuing rise of sealed indictments These aren't sealed indictments, they're sealed court documents. And it signifies only Trump's renewed interest in immigration and drug prosecution.

• Said Flynn would be cleared in 30 days, 30 days later the House Intelligence Committee says he did nothing wrong. He hasn't been cleared, he's still under indictment for lying to the FBI. And HPSCI clearing Trump and his people was as easy to predict as the sun coming up tomorrow.

• Green_Castle interpreted by anons as code that the military would build the wall, proved right a few days later The wall is never going to be built, and even if it is, the military isn't going to do it, and isn't going to pay for it. This is just a dumb thing Trump threw out because he has no idea how government works.

• On November 20th, anon asks Q to ask Trump to tweet the term “wonderful day”, next day trump tweets something with wonderful and day, not connected though. So he...didn't do the thing he was asked to do, but instead used two common words that he uses often.

• One photo uploaded on Twitter by Trump starts with the letters DOITQ (supposed to be randomly generated), in the photo on air force one Trump is posing with a group of people making thumbs ups, which can be traced in the shape of a Q. Check out the book they constantly upload over on 8chan to see it. This is confirmation bias. You see the "Q" in the photo because you've been told it's there.

• On one twitter post, Trump uses the word consensual, later deletes the tweet and uses the correct word, conseQuential Trump can't spell. He can't use words correctly. Or let me guess, you thought "covfefe" was secret code?

• Anon asks Q to tell Trump to use the word tip top in the state of the union, Trump doesn’t, but then uses Tip top, reemphasized as Tippity top, during his Easter speech. Another common Trump expression. How many anons asked Q to tell trump to use words he's never used? This is a stopped clock being right twice a day.

• Q said, social media blackouts will happen, its ok, then Trumps twitter went down briefly. These services go down all the time. If I predict a major social media site will go down in the next day/week/month, it will happen.

• Q has posted lots of pictures from air force one, the scenes in the window correspond to Air Force Ones known flight paths. AFO's flight path is easy to find. Follow CivMilAir on Twitter.

With some of these, such as the Q picture, I agree. Others I think you are downplaying the significance of. I think we value some of these differently because of our views on Trump and his team. Greencastle as code for army corp of engineers followed by Trump announcing that the wall will be build by the military with military funds is a big deal and can't be dismissed away by the thought that the wall won't be built. Especially seeing as this was one that anons picked up on beforehand, not after Trumps announcement.

The list doesn't seem to fit in a worldview where trump is a bumbling incompetent idiot, I understand that. But they fit perfectly in the puzzle we can build from Q's crumbs. At the very least we have to assume that Trump is being propped up by Military Intelligence, and probably has been since before winning the nomination. 4-d chess is more than just a meme, its an explanation of how Trump has gotten so far. Now remember I am not pro-trump I think he is a sleazy psychopath, but there IS a cabal, a criminal network that operates as a shadow government, and I think Trump is fighting them (not altruistically). From this perspective, crumbs like Flynn being cleared in 30 is accompanied by the narrative that Flynn plead guilty on purpose in order to get a plea deal where he has to say on record every illegal activity he was aware of, as a means of introducing evidence and testimony in an early part of the storm.

If you don't believe that there is a cabal in the first place, then the idea of Q is pretty impossible to reconcile. But Q's analysis of current events makes so much more sense than the idea that a bunch of idiots are bumbling around without a plan.

And it signifies only Trump's renewed interest in immigration and drug prosecution.

So there's ZERO relation to the executive orders that he signed on trafficking and online trafficking, is that what you are saying?

Thanks for being a voice of reason

Dont forget someone in 8chan told Q to get trump to add "tippy top" somewhere in his SOTU speech, but then Trump said it during his Easter at the white house event not long later.

How do we know that wasn't his speech writer telling him to do that?

Take everything with a grain of salt

You lost me at black magic.

What do you think spirit cooking is supposed to be? Art?

Uh yeah. Marina Abramovich is a performance artist. The single mention of spirit cooking in an e-mail between her and Tony Podesta— an art collector as well as a lobbyist— doesn't make much of a case for a vast "black magic" conspiracy.

Youre right.

The single mention of spirit cooking in an e-mail between her and Tony Podesta— an art collector as well as a lobbyist doesn't make much of a case for a vast "black magic" conspiracy.

But that's not all we are talking about.

What are we talking about then? Where else has spirit cooking been mentioned outside of the imaginations of right wingers?

Where else has spirit cooking been mentioned outside of the imaginations of right wingers?

You literally just said.

You asked if I think spirit cooking is art. I thought that was what was up for debate. What is the other evidence of black magic? What is it that you are arguing actually exists?

I should have asked if you thought it was only art.

Maria saying it's art does not mean she does not also view it as ceremonial. Ritualalistic ceremonies can said to be art.

Keep in mind, we are not talking something we would consider extreme when we are talking black magic fuckery. Numerology, astrology, speaking to the dead things like these are considered forms of black magic.

Remember that pic of Tony podesta with the Pisces on one hand and 14 on the other?

Remember the video of Bill Clinton talking about Hillary and how she spoke to Eleanor Roosevelt while first lady?

Two forms of black magic fuckery. The question is how far down the rabbit hole these things actually go?

Ever seen eyes wide shut?

Yeah I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I think that's all bullshit. There's no such thing as magic. Eyes Wide Shut is a movie. This occult nonsense is the projection of uneducated middle America.

Just because there is no such thing as magic to you, does not mean others do not believe there is no such thing and are not acting out things which to them is.

Of course Eyes Wise Shut didn’t come out of some vacuum- it trades on powerful images of the occult. Those images however are really a part of the collective imagination. I’m sorry, but the idea that the liberal elite are partake in neo-pagan rituals says much more about the deracinated middle Americans who buy into that nonsense than anything else.

This is coming from someone who’s been to the Bohemian Grove many times.

I’m sorry, but the idea that the liberal elite partake in neo-pagan rituals says much more about the deracinated middle Americans who buy into that nonsense than anything else.

I never made this claim.

This is coming from someone who’s been to the Bohemian Grove many times.

Uh huh

ok so what EXACTLY is your claim.

Thst there are people who do believe they act out rituals that cab be described as black magic fuckery. That occult rituals are very very real, and they are

And that you're a lying. At least to a degree.

I'm sure there are people who act out "black magic fuckery" rituals, namely confused adolescents and people who frequent alternative book stores in Portland. What am I lying about?

And you are wrong in limiting the scope to teenagers. Indisputably so.

I agree with your conclusion but I'm confused by the last paragraph. Are you saying the Trump-Russia thing isn't real? I think Q is set up to simply create blind Trump supporters to go berserk when Mueller's evidence comes out.

People will say that russia fabricated all the evidence against the cabal and choose to believe that it just isnt true. Ultimately, trump supports and anti-trump team are right about the other side being corrupt, but it will be spun in a way so people only believe their side.

This is my fear as well. The investigation may have been tainted from the start and if that turns out to be the case, his supporters won't even care if there's a recording of Trump and Putin talking about rigging the election together. This is what our political system has turned into. Two corrupt sides justifying anything and everything because the other side is corrupt too.

Btw, accordingly to Rudy, Mueller's team has decided they cannot indict a sitting President. Trump is going to get away with this.

I think Q was setup for more or less the same reason. To create a cult following who will not react negatively to the things Trump does - which are all following the agenda of the neocon neolib Cabal. It is designed to get people on board with unilateral neocon war with Iran and anything else. Q will always come out and claim that this is all a super genius multi dimensional chess move and that any day now she will be arrested and the hammer will come down.

Great write-up. This is all quite close to my own conclusions.

Might be disinfo but like all disinfo there's nuggets of Truth in it

I'm upset about y'all lumping in qanon Infowars and alternative media all together.

Infowars is a giant big money production. QAnon is a anonymous fringe topic at best.

The rest of alt media is lumped in with the above clowns? The alt media ive watched has been skeptical of both of them forever. Try some styx, h.a. Goodman, and hard bastard. I like Jamarl Thomas a lot recently as well.

Thats bologna. And this isn't meta... I'm talking about the literal subject of the post.

I think Q is a well intended Psy-op from younger members of Trump's admin with access to tools and resources any old school internet citizen would have a wet-dream over.

They just have to play by rules established by the sympathetic Intel people handling them and the project.

Qanon psy-op vs. Alex Jones psy-op, queue wrestling intros.

A lot more interesting to follow than the US Israel vs Syria Iran show.

Same!

Yeah I don't mean to criticize your post, it's really good that you are sharing this, since this is essentially Alex Jones being power bombed lol

Definitely. The news has never been more fascinating. The "legit" news itself. Just looking at the subtle and not so subtle differences between Comedy Central, VICE, BBC and RT. Just seeing how Syria is a flash point for dozens of militias and militaries all the way up to the big bad powers of yore. How Iraq was just handed to Iran. How the Secular Shias are so resilient and defiant to vote their own into Iraq today. If the Neo Cons continue to double down they will die or blow up the world. They never learn their lessons

How is jones a psyop? Listen to the dude and hes the most genuine guy in media. Everything he says isn’t accurate but that’s because he’s taking info in real time and spit balling and sharing ideas but i haven’t heard him lie once. The really telling moment is the joe rogan podcast episode with him. They got jones drunk and stoned as fuck and hes still good ole Alex. Nothing about him changes. Now if you say that government sources have at times fed him false info that he’s reported on I could believe that but I don’t believe he’s a willing participant

Hope based conspiracies usually spiral into spawning a new religion, having said that though, I personally have been following r/greatawakening ever since r/CBTS_Stream was banned simply because the comunitty there are woke about pizzagate.

Jimmy Dore, Sibel Edmonds, GlobalResearch, Max Lesser, Lee Camp all FTW. Wackadoodle right wingers can step off. 03 Jones hates current Jones

dont leave out corbett

I generally don't buy into conspiracy theories. Sometimes I even spend time offering refutations or counter-points.

But I generally find conspiracy theories interesting.

But that's largely all stopped with political conspiracy theories. Q most of all. It seems so blatant too me that outs some cryptic shotgun approach that guarantees people will find just enough of significance, after the fact, to convince themselves it's real. It's like a horoscope.

What I wonder most though is who's behind it. I know some here like to believe it's a "deep state" psy-op, but I'm more inclined to believe it's some stupid prank... Someone (or a small group) is insanely delighted at how many people hang on their every cryptic post.

Q surfaced awhile after FBIAnon, claiming to provide the same sort of "insider information" to the autists on 4chan, more than likely after seeing how many people took FBIAnon at their word on the board. He didn't even tripfag at first, instead people identified him by his device hash, he made some wild claims and got everyone worked up over dates that nothing ever came out of. During the early weeks he posted in coherent sentences.

Once nothing happened from his initial set of predictions he starts pushing that their are no coincidences and starts posting in cryptic "code" that people can interpret a million different ways. He also starts to use a board trip-code for message authentication, an extremely weak hash, which should have been a giant red flag for everyone following him.

Q was warned multiple times in advance that using a trip-code for authentication was idiotic and that it would be cracked soon, but he never responded, and most people on the board would jump to his defense saying he obviously knew what he was doing as he is a super secret spy. His trip-code was cracked immediately after multiple times.

This "q clearance patriot" who was participating in cyber operations couldn't even figure out how to use basic cryptographic authentication. I don't even think its a "psyop", at least not a professional one, I think it's simply a board regular or group of trolls fucking with the conspiracy community, and it's working beautifully. Even as far as ARGs go, this one has been low effort, but people eat it up anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkczViKOC0&t

"No meta" You can't just use that to avoid being confronted on your pushing of bad ideas. Well you can, it's just that everyone will hate you and this sub.

I consider InfoWars and Q two sides of the same coin: disinformation utilized to further divide the masses and tell their base what they want to hear. They only serve to perpetuate the false left-right paradigm the elite use control and manipulate the masses.

To elaborate further:

The left–right paradigm as political criticism

Used in another context, the phrase refers to a political theory that alleges that members of opposing major political parties such as the Republican and Democratic parties in the United States share common interests and goals, as well as a covertly unified ruling authority over the political issues of the masses. The two major political entities act in concert to create divisiveness among the population while keeping control of the political spectrum.

This "left–right paradigm" concept theorizes that the two opposing political parties utilize their tremendous hold over mainstream media to dramatize political distractions and engage in covert warfare and operations, in grand performances of bureaucratic rivalry meant to propagandize and divide the populace. Divisive issues are purposefully fed through the major media outlets to divert attention away from the ruling class's hidden and ulterior (and sometimes global) agendas. By drawing attention to the differences between the two embedded political systems, ideologies, races and classes, the political groups obscure political clarity and divide unity among the masses. The tactic creates confusion and frustration among the population, which enables the ruling class to increase and consolidate their wealth and power through maintaining an illusion of a two-party system of checks and balances that actually works. The theory contends that the fresh interjection of a new political party or group (such as the expanding Libertarian or Green parties) into the political arena, would be the only way to provide a means to break the cyclical paradigm, currently established in the political system.

False left–right paradigm political theory

The "false left–right paradigm" is the political theory that members of opposing political parties such as Republican and Democrat deceptively share common interests and goals, as a one body ruling authority over the masses. The two parties act to create divisiveness and influence the general population while keeping control of the political spectrum. The false left–right paradigm political theory is closely related to theory of Inverted totalitarianism and Managed Democracy.

The false left–right paradigm theorizes that opposing political groups use their influence over the establishment media to dramatize party warfare distraction, in grand performances of bureaucratic rivalry meant to propagandize and divide the populace. Psychological deception is coordinated on all levels of politics and fed through controlled media outlets to divert attention away from the ruling class's hidden agendas. By drawing attention to differences between two political systems, ideologies, races, and classes, the political groups obscure and divide unity among the masses. The tactic creates confusion and frustration among the population, enabling the global elite to increase and consolidate their wealth and power through maintaining an illusion of a two-party system of checks and balances.

Former Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) archivist and Georgetown University professor Carroll Quigley, who is known as being President Bill Clinton’s mentor, wrote in his 1966 book "Tragedy and Hope"—

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers."

"Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy.

IN short: Distract, divide and conquer.

I agree with this as well.

Q doesnt post solutions. While there is a lot of negative crap going on, its all a distraction from real solutions that will free people from the elite's oppression.

Why doesnt Q talk about or meme a Space Elevator?

Why doesnt Q talk about creating a National Hyperloop network that could cut taxes in half and put millions of people to work building it?

Why doesnt Q talk about (meltdown proof) thorium nuclear reactors for cleaner energy that could distill drinking water for people?

Why doesnt Q talk about NAWAPA, another infrastructure project that could put millions of people to work?

Because before any of that can happen, we have to take out the evil rat bastards who're suppressing all of that, and that requires a level of warfare and strategy most people cannot imagine.

And it's that warfare that Q is talking about and preparing people to understand. It may not come to pass, and humanity may keep circling the drain a few more years before we pass the event horizon into oblivion--which is the trajectory we're on.

Or...or there might actually be people including our POTUS who are serious about putting an end to the deep state and the NWO criminal cabal behind it.

Personally, it makes a lot more sense than that Trump just stumbled his way into unconditional NoKo denuclearization and reconciliation talks, and that his engagements in Syria happened to accidentally take out Iranian and ISIS strongholds and sent the terrorist fleeing into the path of Russian and Syrian forces, and that the Syrian conflict is nearing completion, all without starting WWIII.

And that Israelis took out Iranian facilities in northern Syria a few days later, without provoking an escalation in that theater. Everybody wants the Iranians to leave. And now they just might.

And ending the fake Iran nuke deal, and moving the Israeli embassy? How can these things be happening without unleashing total war?

No incompetent boob could have waltzed into all these Kobayashi Maru situations (and so many others) and come up roses! Please tell me you get that!

So, given that we're talking about a level of coordination and competence that could actually pull of such a mission as Q describes, perhaps it's not irrational to think it might be the real thing.

I mean, the evil is certainly real. The deep state and the NWO hidden hand in human history is totally real. JFK was no conspiracy nut, and he told us about it. Plenty of other serious people have as well. Why would you write off the idea of humanity staging a coordinated military operation against it, in order to stave off the mass extinction events those people have in store for us if we do nothing?

I'll take the "conspiracy nut" moniker as a badge of honor if it means I have reason to hope my daughters will inherit a better world than the rotten tomato we've got now.

Anybody got a better idea that might actually work, given the evil anti-human scum that have run the whole shit show up to now?

Good point brother, we're in this together friend

Thank you for considering my heartfelt mumblings.

some very good points. papa trump def has some terrible parts, but he has, somehow, done a medium job so far.

hes riding on the coattails of obama's economy. well see if papa trump's economic policy helps or hurts us in the long run. they say that economic adjustments take about 8 years to set in or something, so well know after the end of his second term. just the time he doesnt have to care anymore lol.

but, his foreign policy has been pretty medium. i expected him to do much worse.

i think the north korea one either: A- fell into his lap with the collapse of NK's underground nuke research base or B- he (or someone in the government) used some sort of weapon to destroy the base (HAARP based earthquake, or rod of god, or seal team 6 with explosives? idk lol)

i think that syria/iran/russia is really just a stalemate that nobody wants to break. papa trump knows that, and is using it to his advantage.

hes surrounded by military guys who understand russia's capabilities the best, and maybe he knows theyre not ready for conventional war. i personally dont think putin wants nuclear war, so i dont think hell ever attack that way.

iran is a crazy type cuz of muslim extremism and general hate for americans (not that i can really blame them). my understanding is that they do have a pretty decent military. nothing compared to ours, but decent compared to the rest of the world. drones and shit. maybe iran just wants to season some veteran soldiers for a war that they want to start soon? i dont really buy israel crying wolf about an iranian bomb, but, iran's actual military force is a legit threat to israel and any allies we have in the region. plus they dont have a rothschild bank right? theyre on the naughty list with NK.

i think that russia might be for iran stirring things up, but, is also against nuclear war, so theyre not gonna outright help the iranians either. i think most of the world knows that if israel is nuked, everyone is gonna die of nuclear winter. i read somewhere they had a plan about it and everything, but havent researched it. it does make sense tho. russia also backs assad, so they have to be against iran in syria.

i think maybe israel realized that iran was a little too overextended, and they might be able to strike without retaliation. they took the shot. theyre pretty aggressive, so that makes sense.

syria itself is a proxy war between the US/iran/russia. just like afghanistan in the 1980s, and ukraine. this one has 3 players instead of 2 tho. (just had a crazy thought: what if weve been having these proxy wars to level up our special ops. what if russia and the US are actually friends? we used to have space station together. what if aliens are evil or something and they use these proxy wars as a way to have battle ready troops? god i love conspiracies.)

oh and the embassy thing, it already made israel look terribly with the killing of protestors, and its too soon to know what effects it will have on the world. let alone the middle east.

anyway, this has been a very long, neutral, (i think) way of looking at these events. i dont think papa trump is really pulling as many strings here as ppl think he is, but, i think that he hasnt actively fucked anything up (save potentially the embassy thing, and im not really pro-israel with how they treat the palestinians. so empowering them with embassy is neutral at best. honestly i think its dumb. i could be wrong and it could bring world peace. who knows? lol). for me at least, my expectations were sooooo low for him that being even medium as hes been is amazing.

lastly, at the beginning you talk about an inevitable confrontation between the powers that shouldnt be and everyone else. i understand where you are coming from: our rights are being taken away, secret tax of inflation, dumbing down and arguably killing the poor with the "modern" education system, big brother, nonsense wars, pollution, etc etc. the world is shitty. but, i dont think there has to be a war about it. i truly believe that if enough good ppl stand up, that we can win. it may take some strategic strikes or something, but not a full on war. i could see how you might feel that we are on a slippery slope to marshall law that some asleep ppl might be for, but, i think more ppl than ever are starting to wake up. forums like this and youtube, and really the internet itself are making it harder and harder for the ppl in power to do their work in secret. they cant just hide now, they have to put out fake news as a smoke screen.

if the powers that shouldnt be are smart, they would realize that throughout history the oligarchs have never survived. the people always rose up against them. any tyrant or unfair system is eventually exposed. society is trying to find the balance and the oligarchs are taking too much. i hope that one day we label their greed as a mental health disorder tho. its completely illogical. with all their money and the advent of modern technology, maybe they can see it coming this time and stop themselves before its too late. or have someone they love that isnt as crazy save them, idk. give peace a chance man lol.

i think Q is smart enough to know all of these things and is tapping into the resistance that is growing. i dont buy him not saying things outright tho. theres literally no reason for him to speak in code other than being a shill. im down to hear reasons, and maybe there is a crazy reason i havent thought of, but if its anything that takes a whole train of logic to figure out, its not a thing.

end crazy rant. lol

Seriously, it's not that hard. There are some people performing mental acrobatics with it, but I think THEY are LARP-ing for sure.

The essentials are pretty straightforward.

It's kind of like Mark Twain said about the Bible. "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

I think people's REAL problem with Q is self-protection. People are scared to death of hope. They feel like "Fool me once--shame on you; fool me twice--shame on ME!" and so they develop a strong aversion to anything hope-inducing, and they attack it with all the vigor they can muster. Compare that to truly destructive stuff about which people more or less say "live and let live."

I understand that burned sentiment. I really do. But I also understand that if you're in a fight to win, you cannot afford the luxury of surrender. As a species, I say "Do not go gentle into that good night. / Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

We fight for humanity with all we've got. Right now, we count this in that category until we can rule it out.

Wait, so I read a lot of quotes and talk of the plebs, but no actual information. Nowhere did read an explanation for why Q speaks in”tongues,” or why my neutral view isn’t valid.

Sighs :(

Plebs?

Valid?

Are you sure you're replying to the right comment? Who said your views are not valid? They're your views. How can they not be valid unless you've lied about them? LOL

all extremely plus ideas. thank you for sharing them. things that i mediumly knew about, but dont remember as solutions.

ITT: Highly upvoted comments of low effort "debunking" (almost as bad as WaPo's Pizzagate "debunking") of people who know nothing about what's going on in the world right now.

and downvoted low effort explanations xD

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I think Qanon is a high ranking member of trump’s administration or possibly trump himself. The strategy is to keep the rabid internet base that mindlessly supports Trump content by feeding them snippets of info that is vaguely legit. Personally I think the media gives way to much credence to the power of “the hacker known as 4chan” and the rest of trump’s internet base, but I still think that the memes and trolling that they pull in favor of trump no matter how ridiculous does give Trump some free publicity nonetheless.

Now why would Alex Jones vehemently seek to discredit Qanon? Well I think it signals that trump has moved from Alex Jones’s orbit which he was during the campaign (just like how he ditched Steph Bannon after the election) and Qanon is his administration’s way of still channeling energy from the conspiracy theorist base. Alex Jones knows this (during the Syria strike a few weeks ago, Jones let it slip that he hasn’t spoken with trump in months) so discrediting Qanon is his way of indirectly telling Trump and his administration that him and his brand (InfoWars) is still the best way to appeal to conspiracy theorist.

Bannon is not who you think he is.

But yea, Idk whether to believe Q or not but a part of me thinks it's Trump. Good bit of evidence linking them

Honestly at first I am not taking Q seriously, but seeing Alex Jones & Co. , along with MSM, and shills on r/conspiracy were first ignoring, then downplaying, and now bashing it 24/7, it just made me believe that Q is real and on the opposite of the cabal now.

Sounds like the "new" r/conspiracy doesn't it?

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If Trump says WH leakers are traitors and cowards, then Qanon is the biggest traitor and coward of them all. That's if you even believe the LARP is real. They saw what the conspiracy clowns did to the news stories and are attacking it with fake. The greatawakening reddit bans anyone that disagrees with the idiot posters. It's not awakening ANYONE. Spreads misinformation from a fake loon on the internet.

Fake loon won't get coordinated attack from MSM and controlled opposite like AJ though, that's overkill. I would rather believe it's a psyop from Trump team.

The President is the only one who could authorize an operation like this. Obviously authorized release is completely different from unauthorized leak.

It's a PSYOP by the white-hats, for a positive purpose. It is meant to wake people up, and get them to start or continue investigating. Qanon uses a Socratic format. This is perhaps the first historical instance of a leader (President Trump) being able to anonymously communicate with the GLOBAL masses.

Many of the predictions and leads dropped by Q have been purposefully wrong. "Misinformation is real." So said Q... the point is to make it UN-believable, since the information is so vast and terrible, it would be risky to reveal it all at once. It is also happening in real time, so spies might be reading the same post. Q and his team remain adaptable. It can't be too credible. Q wants to redpill the masses slowly, perhaps one at a time, rather than all at once.

K

I've heard Jones claim a thousand times that he has sources at the highest levels of media, military and government. So if anyone has the straight dope it should be him /s.

still waitin on them to lock her up

I think a good portion of America is.

I think Q was just a bored, very well read/generally informed, social media savvy regular person. S/he showed up after MegaAnon (or MegAnon?), who showed up after HighLevelInsider. Fascinating as all get out to read but (outside of a few weirdly accurate predictions/confirmations) basically content that most folks with a good thinking mind, quick wit, and a shit ton of time on their hands could generate.

As other folks have said, it did get weird after a while, which made it less believable.

Similar with MegAnon. She was insisting that Obama and Osama bin Laden were the same person. wuh?

Similar with MegAnon. She was insisting that Obama and Osama bin Laden were the same person. wuh?

I didn't recall that, so I looked into it, and I see no references to this at all.

Bill Cooper called Alex Jones out for what he truly is over a decade ago

A shill, gatekeeper, and traitor to the truth movement.

Alex? Or Bill? Answer me NOW!!! You better nor speak poorly of the one of the greatest patriots (in the truest sense of the word) in the last 100 years

My bad, I should have clarified, obviously I'm talking about Alex "shill" Jones.

There’s news, then there’s alternative news, then there are fringe research communities.

How do you keep all of them in line?

Varying levels of narrative constructed by a single source with a seemingly split personality to generate growth within a society.

This time the society is the world and this has all been a production of “masonry” or whatever you want to call the dispersed coordination brewing beneath the material World.

Their inversions on all sides become obvious when intuition isn’t invested in Theater. It’s about suppressing awareness of a single group transmuting human awareness.

There is no good or evil, only an outcome.

During the campaign, Trump hired Brad Parscale a “digital guru” specializing in marketing on social media to run his online strategy.

Trump was so impressed with his work that Parscale was recently announced as campaign manager for Trump 2020.

Gee, I wonder who would be the likely Trump insider to make a viral character like Q on social media to promote Trump and send his followers making memes to attack his political rivals and who would be able to take pictures proving I spider access in the White House... It couldn’t possibly be an effort created by his digital marketing specialist campaign manager could it!?

That is who Q is, geez it is blatantly obvious and people still don’t realize it.

I like this idea. Gotta read about that guy a bit. Thanks!

Gotta say, if so, that's pretty damn clever.

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/custody-wars-the-bizarre-transformation-of-hypocrite-alex-jones-interview-w-kelly-jones

Custody Wars & the Bizarre Transformation of Hypocrite Alex Jones : Interview w/ Kelly Jones

Robbie Martin speaks to Kelly Jones the ex-wife of Alex Jones about her ongoing custody battle and experience being under a continual bombardment of vexatious litigation on behalf of her ex husband. Kelly has already been granted primary custody by a Texas court yet the judge has left her children with Alex. They also speak at length about how Infowars transformed over the years from being a non-partisan, civil liberties focused, anti-militarized police platform into a pro-Trump, pro-police, pro-fascism hyper partisan anti-left megaphone. Kelly also walks through when the big 'shift' occurred (which happened to be around the same time as their divorce) when shadowy figures like Roger Stone, Matt Drudge and supplement manufactures started circling around Alex as he descended deeper into alcoholism and uncontrollable anger.

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/custody-wars-the-bizarre-transformation-of-hypocrite-alex-jones-interview-w-kelly-jones

At this point Alex Jones puts out much disinfo. I was following a little around 2010 when he was all paranoid about the police state, but i also read articles how he admitted to his "personality" being an actor for the CIA when he was in court...

Here is Abby allegedly mocking the fact that Men are presumed "innocent until proven guilty" and she basically was allegedly advocating that women have full authority to condemn men as sexual abusers based on their witness testimony alone.

https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/hollywoods-breaks-silence-on-rampant-sexual-harassment-abuse#t=29:20 She allegedly claims to be against "American Capitalist Empire" but she allegedly often voices support for Communism which is inherently violent but she goes so fucking far as to fucking defend North Korea and Stalinist Russia. She allegedly is literally advocating for violence in the streets and violent and forceful "redistribution of wealth." HYPOCRISY!

https://np.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8jg68h/learn_to_read_the_map_future_proves_past/ - If you are incapable of reading, following red lines, pattern matching, and looking at numbers don't click through. If you are, get ready for your head to explode.

Everything Q has said has come true. Their photos put them in extreme close proximity to the president. The fact that POTUS immediately corroborates important Q Drops within a day shows Q's legitimacy (literally happened today w/ the NYPD officers who saw Weiner's laptop getting killed).

The fact that there are so many people out in force to discredit Q should also be a huge flag for everyone that there is something more here than meets the eye.

The fact that there are so many people out in force to discredit Q should also be a huge flag for everyone that there is something more here than meets the eye.

Only if Q didn't have a large following. It would be perfectly normal to have that kind of response if Q were all nonsense.

The 11/11 "prediction" is not really a prediction. It's just commonsense. It's after the mid-terms, and it's the date of Trump's big military parade.

If Trump is to survive the election, a significant portion of the information contained in deep state investigations currently unpublished must be revealed and substantial progress must be made on corruption and election fraud.

So, what Q is saying is that by that date, the public will know much of what is currently just a "conspiracy theory" to "normies."

Even if one is not a deep insider, which many consider the Q team to be (and which Q claims to be, and which many of Q's original photos support) it's not hard to come to the same conclusion.

If these things do not happen, it won't be a matter of embarrassment to the Q community, it will mean a Blue Wave and impeachment for Trump. So...

This place is a cesspool and your moderator ranks are TAINTED. Don't believe the clown lies.

Huma's ankle bracelet was the best. Is she in gitmo yet? 😂

She turned up at the Met Gala in NYC a few nights ago. She was wearing a long gown so no way to confirm an ankle bracelet. ;/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5714407/Huma-Abedin-opens-bond-Georgina-Chapman-public-humiliation-lack-sympathy.html

Something else Q didn't say

The stickied post that they didnt want.

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That's about where I'm at on Q. I read his posts and some of the research surrounding them. I often learn new things, so I've stopped caring if it's a LARP.

I'm still mildly concerned about a psyop of justice porn...but a lot of the stuff he mentions is verifiable and real, so not much concern there.

I stopped caring about anything Q related when my friend who follows it religiously told me that the president was going to use his national cell phone alert system three times in one week, and it never happened.

When I pointed out that Q is bullshit, since it didn't happen, he tried arguing back that things don't always happen because he tips everyone off to what will happen. Such a confirmation bias.

A researcher was claiming the EAS would be used by the president, I don't believe that was Q's statement.

There are plenty of other proofs from Q, you need to be following or you'll miss it. Most recent proof is involving Officer Familia's family being honored. Also Trump started using Promises Made Promises Kept after Q had been posting it for a while. There's an overwhelming amount of Q-Trump overlap like this.

Q didn’t say that. That was a researcher’s theory

so you stopped caring because your friend lied to you? Makes sense.

Just because your friend told you a bunch of random BS doesn't mean Q actually did. Maybe your friend has issues interpreting things?

Look at the vote distribution here. Look at how comments against Q, no matter how bad, are upvoted. This topic hits a nerve.

Didn't Hawaii and a few other states have EAS failures in a week a few months ago?

Your friend was repeating what some people's interpretations of Q's drops are. Not Q himself.

I stopped caring about anything Q related when my friend who follows it religiously told me that the president was going to use his national cell phone alert system three times in one week, and it never happened.

LOL. When did Q ever say that. Sounds like your friend is a moron.

Q is a psy-op to make people think there's some kind of secret force of "good guys" working behind the scenes.

My favourite Alex Jones quote is " Hollywood is owned by Arabs".

I think he changed it to the Chinese these days

You can tell it’s legit when people start driving around with Q Anon bumper stickers.

Bumper stickers are a great source of telling what is and isn't legit.

All i can say is shit is happening fast!

Im getting all caught up on palestine/israel. I had heard of Q a lot but was skeptical. Another conspiracy friend was more interested and followed Qs info which has been interesting and new sometimes.

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Does anyone remember when 'q' was trying to push the internet bill of rights yet his followers didn't realize it was about giving the government more control over the internet lmao

Since you seem to know a bit on the subject, can you explain how net neutrality is either good or bad? I know one of them is bad, but I can't figure out which one?

Net neutrality has been around since the 90s and tried to prevent ISP's from attempting to rip people off since there is so little competition in many parts of america. They were continuously trying to infringe on NN and in 2015 comcast (i think) won a case against NN so obama basically made it a law. Here in Australia we don't need NN because we have many ISP's competing with each other. So yes NN is good, the problem is with large ISP's and their monopolies which getting rid of NN would not fix and most likely make worse.

Q, OP, and posts like this serve to perpetuate stupidity and distract communities that would otherwise discuss the profound problems caused by wealthy capitalists and the institutions they use to enslave the world.

Q is real

There are plenty of examples proving Q isnt a LARP.

Any recent examples? I feel like the earlier ones last year could've been real but around December it started looking like a LARP.

If you're genuine, Follow Praying medic https://prayingmedic.com/2018/05/q-anon-all-for-a-larp/ He is the shit "All this for a LARP?"

Not trying to be lazy about your question it's just this guy does a way better job at pointing out a recent example.

There's a big difference between a larp and psyop and both are based on lies. Q is the latter.

Ah so you agree. NOT a Larp. How could Q be effective without a following? They cant. How can Q get a following only putting out lies? They cant.

So what's Qs mission? To save us all? Or take us for a ride?

I've set it before people should go to our r/greatawakening and find out for themselves.

And Follow Praying medic https://prayingmedic.com/2018/05/q-anon-all-for-a-larp/ He is the shit "All this for a LARP?" https://youtu.be/zuFbluehZas

I agree with your first sentence. Do you agree with my premise that he's a psyop? I've watched it unfold from the beginning, it's more pizzagate esque misdirection. It's no different than anonymous, it could literally be a team of trolls just for the lulz but I find Qs occasional insider info to be evidence that we are being played to support Trump. Trumps are the new Clintons but fanboys are too erect at the moment to see the writing on the wall. Oy vey

None of us can know for sure.

I'm sure many of us have considered the possibility of it being a psyop, but I would never get on here telling people that is IS FOR SURE A PSYOP GUYZZZ.

Makes ya stick out like a sore thumb, ya know?

In these times people need to take chances and be willing to stick out. I could be wrong but gotta assume I'm right because my inner voice seldom fails. In your mind, opinions are worthless, analysis is worthless. I don't think you'd agree with my assessment but just know that's how it reads. I don't know for sure, neither does anyone else other than Q and individuals that could rule themselves out via process of elimination.

You do you I'll do me. I respect your principle but there are plenty of folks on here spreading the gospel of Q and pizzagate and I'm here to tell you: it's a misdirection. I hope I'm wrong but seldom am on these matters.

Trump was a bait and switch and Q is an illusion

In these times people need to take chances and be willing to stick out

There's nothing that makes you stick out by saying Q is a psyop or larp. Plenty of people have said that already. In fact, you guys push LARP way too much when it's not really part of the general lexicon.

And then you further lay it on with lines like "I hope I'm wrong". No you don't.

Who is you guys? Believe what you want buddy, I know what's up and it's not cause I'm psychic or a genius. I see the writing on the stone wall and read it, interpret what it says however you wish.

There's nothing on a "stone wall", just your unsubstantiated opinion.

There's nothing in the way that you address people that makes me think that you don't "hope you are" wrong about anything, at all.

I'm sorry, there's not somehow a huge quota of people that have become experts in sniffing out "LARPS" or "psyops", especially with no evidence. Just bland assertions.

I have been a follower of this subreddit since I initially got on Reddit. I upvoted this post only for it to immediatley go back down to zero...I am nobodies fool: and as of today will no loger engage in a thred that manipulates the numbers. That's pretty messed up! Over 200 comments on this one and 0 upvotes? Does'nt that click with anybody else?

Link to All Q posts, Nothing else:

https://qanonposts.com/

Site can be mobile cancer.

qanon.pub

Thanks!

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So, basically CNN.

Yeah the CNN pills and they sell online are stupid

QQQ

As lucky as we are to be able to see the otherside of this so can our enemies. Q is a military operation. Deception and misinformation is involved with all of this. I can't tell you why killary didnt get arrested back then. Maybe it was posted just to make the fuckers sweat, or maybe things didn't go as planned.

Future proves past. There are plenty of examples proving Q isnt a LARP. Dismiss if you want but you're missing one hell of a show at r/greatawakening

90% of the conspiracies will be fix by the Q team. That should interest every genuine person on this sub.

QQQ

Ok, so here's a brand new Q post. It includes what looks to be Trump's pen laying on an executive order, including visible LETTERS on the right side of the picture (not the white house on top).

If this is a "larp" tell me how they managed to get a picture of an EO that will match up with the response to the letter also pictured. I realize that hasn't happened yet, but when it does will anyone argue it's fake?

http://i.magaimg.net/img/3b9n.png

and here's how they line up.

ALL JUST A COINCIDENCE I GUESS.

https://i.imgur.com/re3kgKs.png

Those clearly don't matchup, you are discrediting youself. I think what Q meant is that when the executive order comes out you will be able to match the letters left visible to that of the EO...

aurthority?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-legal-authority-declassify-intelligence/story?id=47436559

Trump is protected under an executive order that was signed by Barack Obama in 2009 establishing a uniform system for "classifying, safeguarding and declassifying national security information."

The order allows the president to determine the system of designating classified information, and he is the ultimate authority over U.S. intelligence agencies, which gather and classify the information.

Thanks Obama!

whoops you missed my point in your eagerness to address something i wasn't saying

obama says you're welcome tho

so i guess you feel pretty silly now, huh bud

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8k0e8x/q_caught_using_photoshop_larp_further_exposed/

That's supposed to be proof this is fake LOL. Take your concernfagging elsewhere. If 8chan can find a location on the planet by only wood paneling and frog noises, then i trust them to let me know if something is fake. Not a compromised subreddit.

how embarrassing for you

take a look at your posts and then get back to me if you're discussing embarrassing shit lol

damn dude you're still digging

it's almost impressive

LOL It's obviously "rth" in the top line. Not "uth".

Q is a fucking larp. It's "Casey at the Bat" over and over and over again.

you're an idiot if you think this is a larp but i digress

Removed. Rule 10

That's what amounts to good evidence for you? An in correct letterhead in a Context free photo? There was another thread proving it's fake:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8k0e8x/q_caught_using_photoshop_larp_further_exposed/?sort=new

actually no, 6+ months of constant posting by 6 and constant due-dilligence by the chans convinced me. Along with Trump's tweets proving Q posts. But you people wouldn't know anything about all of that, including 3000+ threads on the chans about it all.

I'm assuming Q will post today about the "photoshop"

I go to the great awakening subreddit time and time again. Q happens to be right about something for about every 100 or so times he's dead wrong. He posts abstract platitudes that are completely vague so people can interpret them how they see fit.

I give it 90% chance it's a LARP, 9.9% it's an intelligence/law enforcement agency experimenting with social engineering .0001% chance he's the real.

But by all means please continue to put faith in some anonymous vague shitposts on a forum full of degenerates that have not borne out anything of value.

Continue to discard obvious redflags such as yesterday's Photoshop and I expect you won't feel any sense of irony when you refer to other people as 'sheep'.

Q posts in such an obscure way that it allows people to work backwards from a conclusion to match it up with something Q wrote

Exactly. People do the same thing, but to a lesser extent with Trump's ravings as well.

this is 100% horse shit. If you say he's wrong 99 times out of 100, surely you will be able to cherry pick some examples.

I'll save you the time, he's not wrong, the people that interpret what he says are wrong and that's where you're getting your info from, guaranteed.

How about you post one proving he's right. I mean I already posted the Photoshop example so lets see your proof. Pick the strongest one so it's undisputable please.

qanon.pub, pick anything out of those 2400 posts

Telling someone to go do their own research just shows how little you've done yourself.

LMAO

ITT: people who do not understand png compression.

take a png image you trust to be unedited. needs to be .png! e.g. this load it into the Forensic Tool everyone references. play around with the filters and compare. ??? come to your own conclusions. side note: the Original Post originated in TMoR, the "confirmer" is a regular there.

Disclaimer: I do not make any statement on the LARPishness or non-LARPishness of Q, I am just saying, that the "proof" of the photoshopping is questionable, at best.

The forensic analysis is only part of the argument. Please read the whole thing. The fact that the seal, which a the poster points out is highly suspicious, seems to be the part photoshopped in is very telling.

it's ok, 4chan is on the case. they already know that the thread was started by a TMOR poster, so it's already discredited. Of course, none of this matters if the letter written is acted on by 5.19 or whatever the date is. Nitpicking .png artifacts and seals doesn't matter

How will you know if its acted on? You don't know what the content is?

4chan is on the case.

Are you for real?

How do you know this is a larp when you don't even know what you're talking about? It was posted in reference to this...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/996821093146120192

Wow that settles it I'm a believer now. This is indisputable.

2400 posts versus "herp derp, that seal looks photoshopped". You;ll find out soon enough it's real, or did you miss the breaking news an hour ago about the IG report :)

I've seen the light! Praise be! Clearly the investigation wrapped up because of an executive directive signed yesterday! Praise Q! The storm is coming!

this is why i rarely waste time on people like you. you're not interested in the topic, you're interested in debunking the topic. which is fine assuming you're honest about it and do your due diligence. except that's not you.

I gave you every opportunity to prove your point. I asked for one definitive piece of proof. Instead you got indignant and whiny.

the only indignant and whiny one here is you, claiming a compressed png is proof of a total 6+ month long larp lol

When you have the outlandish claim the onus is on you to prove it. If I said NK is a made up country for propoganda purposes, I had better have some rock solid evidence if I am going to convince you.

You claim that the POTUS (who as an aside, apparently doesn't know the difference between HIV and HPV) is a genius and is leaking though either a staffer or even himself to a message board rife with incels and NEETs events and plans that are coming.

All I ask is one clear example of something obvious. Like you said there are over 2400 so it shouldn't be hard to produce one since you claim to be familiar with the subject.

i could, but then the goal posts will be moved. No interest. go post on r/drama when the indictments are unsealed :)

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I go to the great awakening subreddit time and time again. Q happens to be right about something for about every 100 or so times he's dead wrong. He posts abstract platitudes that are completely vague so people can interpret them how they see fit.

How can he be wrong when the things he says are so vague that people can confirm via bias? It's either one or the other. He's either wrong because he's specific, or he's never wrong because he's so vague. Your comment seems a bit contradictory.

The incels really sit there at home and think some super secret government agent is cryptically communicating with them to save the world. It's fucking hilarious picturing these people all excited thinking they are for once part of something and not ostracized losers. I suppose it's better than them killing others like the Toronto guy, but damn is it funny.

I agree, but /r/TheGreatAwakening has 26000 subscribers and is legitimately insane. If Trump is ever impeached I feel like there's a bunch of mass shooters coming out of that sub.

But you people wouldn't know anything about all of that

you people

People need to understand that Q cannot come right out and give straight up proof due to national security concerns. This is why he is so cryptic and this is why he poses everything as questions. Plausible deniability.

This is the most fascinating time in history, and it's going down right now! People are missing out on this!

Agreed. And the r/conspiracy I used to know (for 8+ years) would have been all over this story. Too bad it was allowed to be compromised. Oh well, /r/greatawakening is my new go-to sub

why do you waste you're life arguing with dnc shills?

i only do when i'm bored. I rarely come to r/conspiracy anymore, it was compromised last year.

This is the most fascinating thing on the internet right now. I don’t believe it’s a LARP. Although parts of it may be due to the anon nature of 4chan.

That's not how chans work. It's the same Q from the beginning and we know this because of tripcodes.

Tripcodes are generated based on the password from the original poster.

"Q" has to enter the original password to post under the official Q tripcode.

It's legit.

I see. I thought he was completely anon from the beginning, I didn't know he was using an identifier.

naw. he changed it a few times. Not saying it's a larp but he is oversimplifying the tripcode chan shit.

That assumes two things (maybe more):

1. That 8chan's implementation of tripcodes is correct and secure
2. That 8chan's owner/admin is not in on whatever con might be happening.

If Q is who he/they says they are, they would know that a public/private key signing would be significantly more secure and demonstrative of it being the original person/group.

well, Q started on 4chan and then moved to 8ch. So his trip has changed more than once. And i think i remember he was either anon at the beginning and/or changed his trip at least a few times. But we know it happened at least once. Not arguing validity just pointing out your simplification of the chans' tripcode is not really true.

Changing tripcodes doesn't mean shit.

Q posted the new tripcode from the old tripcode.

That validates the new tripcode.

Not really, man in the middle attacks or good old rubber-hose cryptanalysis could allow new people to take over the codes.

Well technically if the old tripcode was compromised, can it really validate, without a doubt, the new trip code? If i were to steal a password for someone's account, then make a new account, couldn't I just use the old account to confirm the new account as the "original account owner"?

Did the post about the recent photoshop change your mind?

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8k0e8x/q_caught_using_photoshop_larp_further_exposed/?sort=new

Is this really confirmed? I noticed that snallygaster and hapticsloughton are very left leaning, so I took a picture of a piece of paper with the yellow graph on it from my desk and the 'Principal Component Analysis' with the Component selected at 2 (just like it was in hapticslougton analysis) and the yellow graphs jumped out in the same way.

I'm in no way an expert, but I would definitely like to see a confirmation of an unbiased person rather then just believe the "confirmation" of biased individuals.

self quote from other thread:

ITT: people who do not understand png compression.

1. take a png image you trust to be unedited. needs to be .png! e.g. this
2. load it into the Forensic Tool everyone references.
   
3. play around with the filters and compare.
   
4. ???
   
5. come to your own conclusions.
   

side note: the Original Post originated in TMoR, the "confirmer" is a regular there.

Disclaimer: I do not make any statement on the LARPishness or non-LARPishness of Q, I am just saying, that the "proof" of the photoshopping is questionable, at best.

TMOR faked the images and posted them here.

Of course! Why didn't I think of that?

Q makes me feel like we are living in a cyberpunk story

You are watching a movie.

This will probably get buried in the comments, but concerning Q...the first things I was reminded of werethis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading - a lot of Q's techniques seem to be lifted straight from this.

and this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias - " The tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.[1] It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. Confirmation bias is a variation of the more general tendency of apophenia."

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This "Pope is going to have a bad May" thing from Q is crazy given what happened today.

That's one of many predictions.

He called the seal indictments.

He called the cleaning out of the FBI and DOJ

He called out all the congressmen and senators that struck deals to not go for re-election

May 17 Q writes "What is the common theme when bad news is about to break (against them)? Stay vigilant. Q"

Then 4 false flags drop within 24 hours.

Q is legit. There is no denying it.

Out of the loop.
What did happen?

qanon.pub

Just read the raw Q posts. Larp or not. It gives hope that the criminals in the CIA, NSA, FBI and DOJ will be taken down. I mean, that kind of is happening already. People are stepping down/being fired. If you don't support the message Q is putting across than you are a traitor or a naive liberal shitbag who hates America.

There's an interview with Roger Stone where he talks about how the political landscape has shifted in terms of media coverage, he talks about the dwindling power of the legacy media and the rise of the Internet and the huge audience net based channels like InfoWars get. Using these avenues Trump tapped into a huge supporter base without the need for the legacy media who were in Clintons pocket.

Now, imagine if you took every American voter and sorted them into groups according to which websites they frequent and where they get a majority of their news. Obviously Facebook would be popular as with all social media, and then you have places like Reddit where we seen the birth of The Donald, you would also have a huge amount of (majority) white males between 18-40 who Anonymously visit a website called 4chan.

After Clinton lost the election the old guard has realized how dangerous the Internet is, we have seen an astronomical rise in astroturfing, we have seen alternative media blatantly attacked and called fake news by the media who were complicit in rigging the DNC election.

After the election Trumps supporters eagerly awaited Clintons arrest, the swamp being drained, the wall being built, the tax loopholes to close, the JFK files to be released, the cold war to thaw, the troops to come home...

Trumps support dwindled, people felt cheated, he began passing laws he claimed to he opposed too, he delayed the JFK release, Assange was still locked up, Hilary was still free, he bombed Syria over much to the delight of the MSM...

Then Q arrives. Dropping a very interesting post on 4chan. This post was saved and reposted a few different places including this one, Q immediately changes the narrative, he lets everyone know that while it may look like Trumps tweeting about the new season of The Apprentice he is actually busy saving the world from George Soros and his gang of retired politicians.

Now, at first I thought it was a LARP, then the Saudi Arabia stuff happened and I thought he was legit. Then he started floundering. He was going to a lot of effort to prove he was legitimate, yet the information he was giving was extremely poor. It was like he was guessing about potential stories by throwing out vague hints. However whether or not Q was an insider quickly became irrelevant....

Trumps actions spoke louder than Qs words, first we have Trump openly shilling for the Military Industrial Complex, his diplomatic missions are more like door to door sales with F-35s instead of steak knives. Then we have the bombing of Syria, twice. Based on no evidence. Pushing for war with Iran and sending more troops back into the middle east. His actions at the UN and various other choices to abandon previous agreements like the TPP, The Climate pact, Iran Nuclear Deal and imposing steel tariffs. Trumps alienating the US, not a smart move with such a fragile economy.

There is one country however who Trump has been bending over backwards to please, whether its murdering unarmed protesters, bombing Syria or threatening to Nuke the rest of the world if anything ever happens to them...

Of course; its Israel. Now ask yourself, why is Trump putting tariffs against some of your most important economic partners yet still handing over billions to Israel? Why did Trump cancel Obamacare when Israelis have free health care? Why does Trump want war with Iran? They are no threat to the US and would probably even move back to the Petrodollar if Trump agreed to discuss the Nuclear Agreement. How is another war financially possible when Americans are still drinking lead poisoned water?

Q may or may not work for Trump,

But if he does that should make you even more suspicious of being manipulated by a controlled narrative, especially if election time comes around and all those promises are still just around the corner.

Hey, not sure if this belongs here.

https://youtu.be/UZPCp8SPfOM?t=1h56s

He's not talking about the same Q thing right?

This isn't a conspiracy, just two internet trolls bumping heads for who can get the most rubes to buy into their stupidity.

Qanon is right wing bullshit. It's actual infowars

Fail.

Yeah, I too feel a bit weird about this.

1. Any discussion about the sub, its mods, or reddit.

A discussion can't hurt imho. I honestly doubt he is legitimate, yet I have to also honestly say that I have never really looked into the whole thing deeply enough to have a good unbiased in depth opinion on the subject. The r/greatawakening sub (where they talk about Q) turned me off of it to be honest, because it in many cases (not by all users, I digress) was filled with mindless Trump worship.

I assume the reason this is being discussed is simply because a lot of people believe it and are talking about it. I mean that sub alone has a huge amount of subs for a relatively new subreddit.

Any discussion about the sub, its mods, or reddit.

Calm down there eager beaver and read the rules of this thread.

links pls. I don't follow QAnon closely so I'm interested on whats going on. ty in advance :)

Yup. Waiting for dates is a fools game.

You'd have to be a retard or a sayanim to call the crap coming out of netanyahoo "Authentic"... doesn't strike me as a retard...

It's important to elaborate on how it's a psyop as well. What is the ultimate purpose?

Well, from what I'm seeing, it benefits the elite that our culture is vastly divided on the issue. Some think it's real and will passionately defend it out of a desperation for a savior or some kind of hope, and the rest of us just want to help others understand that they are being "played" and tricked into following a false prophet.

It also seems to generate a "cult-like" support for the current administration and the POTUS, which benefits the establishment because they are essentially converting conspiracy theorists into rabid defenders of the government. This tells me the establishment is having trouble keeping the masses supporting their puppet president, so they have to find a clever way to "recruit" new followers, or else we could all unite under skepticism/rejection of the POTUS.

It's all a charade, and I'm glad people are finally seeing past it, but I think at this time we can just stop talking about it and it will hopefully fade into background noise.

When people start predicting dates (11/11) I get off the bandwagon.

Why do you get off the bandwagon once they start saying things that are falsifiable? Do you stay on the bandwagon if they keep saying a bunch of vague stuff that can never be confirmed?

But enjoy your giant disappointment on 11/11/18.

I guarantee there will be no disappointment if nothing of import happens on 11/11, either because some minor event (after the midterms???) will happen that believers will latch on to, or any believers will conveniently forget or deny 11/11 was ever a serious prediction, despite being pushed into the sidebar of their sub.

The world could get literally split in half and if I were watching it go down from my coffin rocket I'd still think Q is a psyop and AJ is a misdirection

But enjoy your giant disappointment on 11/11/18.

That date is Veteran's Day and the day of Trump's big military parade in D.C. It's been known for a while.

So Q (or his fans) is correct in "predicting" that "something big" happens on that date. The problem is that it's not really hard to predict it, since it's public knowledge anyway. And the parade is nothing more than military fetishism. But I'm sure Q fans will love it.

Is it a psy-op still if it's just some douche rping on 4chan?

^ THIS!

I think most of us believe it was completely self-inflicted. He responded to what he considered a "slight" by going nuclear to the point of threatening to dox the board owner at 8chan.

Dude!

Ahhh. Do you think Corsi knew what was coming for him at that point and decided make it known first? Just speculating.

What if something does happen? Will you just say coincidence and move on or will you believe more?

Good point brother, we're in this together friend

some very good points. papa trump def has some terrible parts, but he has, somehow, done a medium job so far.

hes riding on the coattails of obama's economy. well see if papa trump's economic policy helps or hurts us in the long run. they say that economic adjustments take about 8 years to set in or something, so well know after the end of his second term. just the time he doesnt have to care anymore lol.

but, his foreign policy has been pretty medium. i expected him to do much worse.

i think the north korea one either: A- fell into his lap with the collapse of NK's underground nuke research base or B- he (or someone in the government) used some sort of weapon to destroy the base (HAARP based earthquake, or rod of god, or seal team 6 with explosives? idk lol)

i think that syria/iran/russia is really just a stalemate that nobody wants to break. papa trump knows that, and is using it to his advantage.

hes surrounded by military guys who understand russia's capabilities the best, and maybe he knows theyre not ready for conventional war. i personally dont think putin wants nuclear war, so i dont think hell ever attack that way.

iran is a crazy type cuz of muslim extremism and general hate for americans (not that i can really blame them). my understanding is that they do have a pretty decent military. nothing compared to ours, but decent compared to the rest of the world. drones and shit. maybe iran just wants to season some veteran soldiers for a war that they want to start soon? i dont really buy israel crying wolf about an iranian bomb, but, iran's actual military force is a legit threat to israel and any allies we have in the region. plus they dont have a rothschild bank right? theyre on the naughty list with NK.

i think that russia might be for iran stirring things up, but, is also against nuclear war, so theyre not gonna outright help the iranians either. i think most of the world knows that if israel is nuked, everyone is gonna die of nuclear winter. i read somewhere they had a plan about it and everything, but havent researched it. it does make sense tho. russia also backs assad, so they have to be against iran in syria.

i think maybe israel realized that iran was a little too overextended, and they might be able to strike without retaliation. they took the shot. theyre pretty aggressive, so that makes sense.

syria itself is a proxy war between the US/iran/russia. just like afghanistan in the 1980s, and ukraine. this one has 3 players instead of 2 tho. (just had a crazy thought: what if weve been having these proxy wars to level up our special ops. what if russia and the US are actually friends? we used to have space station together. what if aliens are evil or something and they use these proxy wars as a way to have battle ready troops? god i love conspiracies.)

oh and the embassy thing, it already made israel look terribly with the killing of protestors, and its too soon to know what effects it will have on the world. let alone the middle east.

anyway, this has been a very long, neutral, (i think) way of looking at these events. i dont think papa trump is really pulling as many strings here as ppl think he is, but, i think that he hasnt actively fucked anything up (save potentially the embassy thing, and im not really pro-israel with how they treat the palestinians. so empowering them with embassy is neutral at best. honestly i think its dumb. i could be wrong and it could bring world peace. who knows? lol). for me at least, my expectations were sooooo low for him that being even medium as hes been is amazing.

lastly, at the beginning you talk about an inevitable confrontation between the powers that shouldnt be and everyone else. i understand where you are coming from: our rights are being taken away, secret tax of inflation, dumbing down and arguably killing the poor with the "modern" education system, big brother, nonsense wars, pollution, etc etc. the world is shitty. but, i dont think there has to be a war about it. i truly believe that if enough good ppl stand up, that we can win. it may take some strategic strikes or something, but not a full on war. i could see how you might feel that we are on a slippery slope to marshall law that some asleep ppl might be for, but, i think more ppl than ever are starting to wake up. forums like this and youtube, and really the internet itself are making it harder and harder for the ppl in power to do their work in secret. they cant just hide now, they have to put out fake news as a smoke screen.

if the powers that shouldnt be are smart, they would realize that throughout history the oligarchs have never survived. the people always rose up against them. any tyrant or unfair system is eventually exposed. society is trying to find the balance and the oligarchs are taking too much. i hope that one day we label their greed as a mental health disorder tho. its completely illogical. with all their money and the advent of modern technology, maybe they can see it coming this time and stop themselves before its too late. or have someone they love that isnt as crazy save them, idk. give peace a chance man lol.

i think Q is smart enough to know all of these things and is tapping into the resistance that is growing. i dont buy him not saying things outright tho. theres literally no reason for him to speak in code other than being a shill. im down to hear reasons, and maybe there is a crazy reason i havent thought of, but if its anything that takes a whole train of logic to figure out, its not a thing.

end crazy rant. lol

whoops you missed my point in your eagerness to address something i wasn't saying

obama says you're welcome tho

Funny thing is Victory of the LARP, a related person (which had a whole shitstorm back April last year) and butt-buddy of QAnon kept saying that November 2017 was meant to be some game changing shit where "ayy lmaos" (Aliens) were meant to "BTFO" the Deep State back in November 2017 (and then February, then March, then April) and obviously now it's been updated to another fake prep date of 11/11/18.

Apparently to keep it "Fresh"

There's nothing on a "stone wall", just your unsubstantiated opinion.

There's nothing in the way that you address people that makes me think that you don't "hope you are" wrong about anything, at all.

I'm sorry, there's not somehow a huge quota of people that have become experts in sniffing out "LARPS" or "psyops", especially with no evidence. Just bland assertions.