Sure is a butt ton of evidence. Warrants a cadaver dog at the very least.

These are data points, but not evidence of what they're claiming. A press release about a mayor? A bunch of maps? How does that prove that children are being abused?

It just seems like they're trying to overwhelm with unrelated data so it looks like they've done a lot of research and uncovered things, but none of it is related to the claims that are being made.

Circumstantial evidence is still evidence.

If an actual expert corroborated any of these claims, they would easily have the contacts needed to investigate and if they were credible experts, it would be done already.

What is your opinion of the little underground cage, with the dresser, and two pillows?

Yes they documented the entire camp https://www.bitchute.com/video/VSGPMnRFbpv0/

Why the hell would they dismantle the evidence, that doesn’t seem very wise. Post some people out there to guard it until they can get the authorities out there.

It sounds like the authorities are refusing to go out and investigate.

Yes. You call the local police or investigation agencies, and ask when you can expect someone to assist.

You seem to be shilling on a bunch of threads about this ongoing story. Noted.

Removed Rule 10

Just the opposite actually

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/tucson-police-say-they-have-no-evidence-of-human-trafficking-at-bunker-near-i19-and-valencia

What about the graves?

How did they know there were graves?

I saw a video of that SEAL with the beard from all the other videos and he mentioned they found a bloody knife, clothes and graves that when they dug a little started to smell a lot. That's all I heard

If that's true, it could be any one of a thousand things. Why did he automatically assume it was a grave and not just garbage/a toilet/discarded food/etc/etc/etc?

He is a SEAL and he knows what decomposing bodies smell like? I don't know. I saw another video of the same guy talking about cadaver dogs. Watch from the beginning, he talks about it in the first minutes, I'm only 4 minutes deep or so.

He's looking right at nylon straps holding up planks of wood in what is clearly a shelter structure, and he claims they're "rape restraints" … so no, I don't really trust this guy's ability to properly identify anything.

That's why they're getting cadaver dogs though. For proof. In the video he says they will arrive tomorrow morning and that they're keeping watch until then. The Police will be the ones controlling the dogs with permission from the DOJ if you believe the video anyway.

Well the good news is that the police did check it out, brought in investigators, and found nothing.

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/tucson-police-say-they-have-no-evidence-of-human-trafficking-at-bunker-near-i19-and-valencia

Then why are they bringing in cadaver dogs tomorrow? Anyway, I'm glad someone was out there.

I don't. But dismantling evidence would basically ensure a botched conviction in most cases due to tampering, IMO.

It does seem incredibly stupid. Guard it, but don't destroy evidence and don't implicate yourself by touching none of that stuff.

Yeah, that part makes this whole thing seem suspect, IMO. Anyone in their right mind knows this is how cases go unpunished when evidence is tampered with.

That's the twist, they are the real perpetrators.

That honestly shows me nothing to back up their claim. He can call it a "child sex camp" all he wants, that doesn't automatically make it true. This video is just 8 minutes of the guy walking around pointing to normal things and imagining ways it is used to rape kids.

Do you have a reasonable explanation for the restraints on the trees that one could understand it to be a "normal thing"? I ask because that seems to be the opposite of normal to me. I've never seen restraints on trees in my life.

Why do you keep calling straps "restraints"? Theyre straps, like you would use to hold a tarp to a tree or to hold a simple structure together.

Whats your evidence that those straps are used as a restraint?

My evidence is the same as your claim that they're just straps.

It's all conjecture and eye-test for both of us though in one of the videos, one of the people on-site mentioned blood on them.

Neither one of can know without being there and seeing it ourselves. But right now, I'm more prone to believe the accounts of people actually there than someone on the internet trying to explain it away as something that's just "normal things".

So really there's no evidence to prove there's any child trafficking going on there.

There's plenty of suspicious things at that site to feel something nefarious is going on. As far as I am concerned, enough to warrant a further look by investigators. I appreciate you trying to explain it all away. Heck, it might even be your job for all I know. But being this is now days old, multiple government agencies have been apparently contacted, and zero action has been taken by any of them... Well... Something is fishy about that to me.

Maybe they should tell them an African-American male is on-site selling drugs to kids whilst weilding a firearm. I imagine that would get some sort of response from law enforcement. Because as far as I've seen and can tell, one officer went on site when a local news station was reporting and said they would turn it over to detectives.

According to the claims of the man in the video, DHS, ICE, and the FBI have all been contacted. It may just be too soon at this point but there's been zero response from any of them.

Right now, we shall sit around and see what happens.

According to this article Tuscon police have investigated... https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/tucson-police-say-they-have-no-evidence-of-human-trafficking-at-bunker-near-i19-and-valencia

And from what I’ve gathered, it has been turned over to detectives.

Haven't seen that yet

It was reported as such by a local news station in their on-the-scene report.

https://youtu.be/LKhgCgPenyA

States such at 1:29.

So I guess it’s a grey area right now. are detectives looking into it further or are they the ones that determined there isn’t evidence of such? Or was that just TPD patrol officers that were preliminarily on the scene?

I don’t see anything out there that states either definitively.

There is a LOT of circumstantial evidence. Court cases are often decided with only circumstantial evidence. That may or may not constitute proof beyond a reasonable doubt, we have to wait and see.

None whatsoever but if it feels real it is to this sub.

That’s why an investigation would be reasonable considering it’s a camp with children’s belongings and blood on site. Human trafficking is real. This potentially could be a location associated with said crime, but we don’t know if we don’t look at suspect locations.

Boy you are really trying to discourage discussion about this. Not too sure about why you have ANY upvotes. If you don’t want to discuss conspiracies, kindly leave this sub.

I think there's a conspiracy to promote a fake story that there's a child rape camp in this place when there's no evidence at all to support that.

The freeze frames of the straps show they aren’t securing anything to that tree. They are just straps with loops at the end, attached to the tree itself.

Do you have a reasonable explanation for the restraints on the trees that one could understand it to be a "normal thing"?

In the video, right where he points to the "restraints" (at about 2:15), you can clearly see a horizontal piece of wood that is being held by the exact same types of straps that he's claiming are restraints. The evidence that those are straps for some kind of structure rather than restraints is right there in front of him. The rest of the junk he finds might not be "normal" in a broad sense, but nothing was really out of the ordinary for a homeless encampment.

Real-life, professional investigators went in and said they found no evidence of human trafficking, but since these people have decided they won't accept any reasonable explanation (like the one for the "rape tree"), they're claiming the investigators are in on it, too. The only problem here is that they are refusing to accept any kind of logical explanation that doesn't support their conclusions.

you must have watched a different video to me..... hmmmm

Look at the upvotes!! Lol, you guys are funny

Reverse psychology just look at the user name.

you must have watched a different video to me..... hmmmm

That...looks like some disturbing, incriminating shit right there for sure.

Here is a video of the camp that has arm restraints tied to trees. And one of the guys staying there said they found a weapon with blood on it.

https://youtu.be/gstXw4tlTRQ

Especially with all the Cemex and Clinton dollars to back them up

Soros and a huge multi national are involved... and all they can afford are some trash and dirt.

just a regular illegal alien camp folks, nothing out of the ordinary here. catch and release and let them go build houses for D R Horton and every other builder in the entire country, roads and bridges, then do landscaping for you after you buy the house they built

oy vey ((((bad_pattern12))))))

Mistake #1...they should have staked it out and caught shit in action...instead they brought massive attention to it....if it was used for pedo crap etc....it won’t be again and they’re aware and are in ass covering mode with evidence/ trails leading to them.