Missing info about Tucson child camp
1 2018-06-05 by MrWizard111
I have been getting caught up on what's happening in Tucson. Dove into a lot of posts made over the last few days and came across some info that I really didn't see anyone discussing.
I am posting a compilation video I came across which includes a facebook live stream and reveals what all I am sharing. In it he discusses that yes they are taking everything from the site and putting it on display at "bravo base camp" in Tucson. He invites everyone to come take videos and pictures and spread the info. Something I have not seen anyone else mention.
If you live in the Tucson please go and help document and share what all was found.
Next he mentions several times blue prints that were found at the sites which he claims to be underground sex dungeons to hold children and plans for some sort of underground church to be built.
He also indicated that they had found evidence that there are multiple sites that have not been investigated yet along the I-19 corridor. Obviously these people had money and were not homeless.
He also mentions that at the site they have found a couple of other underground bunkers near the original site. These had not been brought up previously and had not been shared with police because the police were not cooperating and they do not know who to trust. So they kept that info private until the video.
Another interesting point he mentions is that over 80 pairs of different sized children's shoes were found. That is a lot of shoes people!!
Idk just thought that this might be helpful since really all I came across on this sub was a lot of arguing about "rape trees" and arguing not really going anywhere. There is a lot more to this story that hasn't been revealed yet.
And here come the downvotes...
[Tucson compilation video](httpse://youtu.be/LfuNCZk6PpE)
309 comments
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
compilation video
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
No pictures.. just all stuff you heard? Give it up man. Police already investigated. Volunteers were arrested in this PSYOP.
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-05
Psyop by who and why? You can't just say words that you think conspiracy theorists say.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Do you remember the Bundy Ranch incident? They've already asked people to show up armed on private property.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
Source?
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
This is not the Bundy incident. He’s made is clear that this is nothing like that and this is all about saving people th government has let slip through the cracks with all their bullshit.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You mean the people on social welfare programs that Trump is stripping away from low-wage or unemployed parents? It's because they can't pay $1000 a month for child care and $1500 a month for housing.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
That’s a whole separate issue that needs addressed. But no human being should ever be raped or trafficked no matter their nationality. These guys can’t fix everything the government broke but they can save people.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
They are not saving people. They are getting people arrested from their stupidity and making fools out of themselves to the entire world.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
They were temporarily detained and quickly released.
Why haven’t you sourced your claim of encouraging showing up armed? I know why...
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You want more? I could waste more time on you, but you'll ignore any evidence.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
The guy has no affiliation with VOP. lol
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You mean the video where he literally shows the video from VOP?
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
I watched a few of their videos. Does that mean I too am affiliated with them?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
I don't know if you are or not. I could care less at this point what your affiliation is with their PSYOP.
1 WaitTilUSeeMyDick 2018-06-05
Keep captializing psyop. It definitely makes it more convincing
/s
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Agreed, since all signs point to PSYOP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0l52vv6-3M
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Nope
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
This is not a psyop...
Good god is it interesting seeing what narratives people are trying to push as all this is surfacing.
Craig and his team are the best people to have on this and I am so happy they are
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
I feel sorry for you but wish you the best.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
There’s a lot more people feeling sorry for you at this point.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
There's certainly a lot, including the news organizations, not feeling sorry for those ignorant people.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
You’re the ignorant person in this scenario though, buddy :)
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
Seemed to me in the stream with TPD on site, he had a good rapport with the police and one directly praised what they do for the homeless.
The more you reach, the more you show your true intentions. Keep it up!
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Did you read the news report, or just find whatever you could to confirm what you want to believe?
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
I watched the live interaction as it happened.
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
ACTUALLY, what they have done is completely ruined every bit of “evidence” they collected. On the completely minuscule chance that something shady HAD happened, there is now no evidence. None. There is not a court of law in this country that would accept ANY of what this expert has collected. So grats to him for screwing that up completely.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
watch this video and get back to me
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LfuNCZk6PpE&feature=youtu.be
We have a fighting chance
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
Literally only had to watch the first 1 minute. Once he said we collected key, good stuff, no point in me continuing. You see, here in this country, we have what the courts call chain of custody. If that is violated, the case can and will be thrown out. There are exceptions but those strictly apply to law enforcement agencies acting in good faith. They do not in ANY way apply to what these people have done.
I don’t know in what country you live in but here, just being a “vet” doesn’t give you some magical right to do what you want and then try to justify it by saying I’m a vet. If they took ANYTHING from those camps, they screwed up and even broke the law. So good for them. All these pedos will run free now thanks to him and his people.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Save the paragraphs for someone else brother.
I'm not here to debate laws or how they handled things.
I am here to support their mission and help bring awareness. Not sure which side you are on but I want these traffickers taken down. Don't bother responding, I can see where your intentions lie. Have a great night
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
He does have a point. What good is awareness when people could have actually been punished? Now a defense lawyer can just claim any evidence was planted.
The only upside is that it seemed no one was going to be punished anyway, so in this case awareness is the best we have. But if there was an ongoing investigation and this team fucked that up, then that should all be punished and imprisoned.
1 megalynn44 2018-06-05
If the police won’t take it seriously, giving them the evidence is equivalent to burning it. Better to try to see what they can learn from it in order to follow leads and track down people places & things that will ultimately provide a larger, more undeniable body of evidence.
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
they take it very seriously.. thing is, some of them have a stake in maintaining its operation. some of them, the COPS, themselves, are in on it.
1 WaitTilUSeeMyDick 2018-06-05
Check his profile. He is legit ALL OVER any thread about this topic spreading the same bullshit ar nauseum.
1 iforgottopackmylunch 2018-06-05
Found the pedo
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You're projecting.
1 iforgottopackmylunch 2018-06-05
Nah. I’m a girl who was molested and raped at a very young age. I’m pretty good a spotting the pervs.
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2018-06-05
Removed Rule 10
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
So you're telling me that nothing about this "camp" smells of trafficking?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Correct. So far nothing was substantial enough:
http://tucsonnewsnow.com/story/38346339/police-no-indication-of-humantrafficking-at-abandoned-tucson-camp
1 Sleuth1ngSloth 2018-06-05
So everything that ever came out of Tucson News Now is suddenly gospel? Did I fall into the Twilight Zone? I thought this sub was called conspiracy - you know, where we refrain from taking establishment media at their word? TNN is one source to consider. Their stamp of disapproval on the matter doesn't make this theory an impossibility.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
There are others... some people just refuse to believe anything but whatever confirms their bias.
1 Sleuth1ngSloth 2018-06-05
The trouble is there are other sources to compete with your claim. I'm not saying you're wrong for holding your opinion, not at all. I respect your right to that. I'm just saying, we can't take everything from any established media at face value.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Have you seen convincing evidence to show otherwise? I haven't, despite asking numerous times. No one can provide time markers in the videos. I only get responses like:
Or, someone will posts an article from 2011 on a Jewish news site about the Mayor.
Is that really the best they got?
1 Sleuth1ngSloth 2018-06-05
Oh dear, it seems like you're not really interested in doing any of the looking on your own and would rather be spoon fed answers. That's how you run into people who are trying to sell you their story. Anywho, you can't really expect people to take time out of their day to try to persuade you to their side of the fence. Some people have provided links to videos, images, and things that they believe are connected to what's going on (i.e. Addresses). It's up to you how to interpret those bits of circumstantial evidence. If you don't believe in the trafficking theory, that's fine. Again, I stress that the conspiracy community should be vigilant and skeptical of mainstream media, regardless of the topic.
1 Carl_Solomon 2018-06-05
To post is to express a thought.
It's not about persuasion, though(ironically) a FB live-feed, multiple posts on Reddit, etc... definitely qualify as attempts at persuasion.
Tonight, we should ask ourselves, what is a thought. Is it an amalgam of unrelated things that could be interpreted in multiple ways and which seem like ideas? Or is a thought a cohesive, linear, fully formed idea that that is self supporting and unimpeachable?
So, the next time you would like to express a thought about any old thing, remember the above and don't expect your audience to accept any less.
Well, all thinking people should be skeptical by their very nature. It is a defining trait of the homosapien.
the homosapien.
1 Sleuth1ngSloth 2018-06-05
"It's not about persuasion," you say, and yet here you are making statements to persuade others to your line of thought 🤔 "And don't expect your audience to accept any less." By posting this, you now have an audience, and you've done a rather forgettable job of presenting your point. The next time you would like to hop on the bandwagon and attempt to sway us to your point of view, just have the sand to admit it instead of beating around the passive-aggressive bush, attempting to condescend with tangential, existentialist rhetoric like "what is a thought?" Remember the above and don't expect me, your audience, to accept any less.
1 Carl_Solomon 2018-06-05
I have no intention of persuading others. My audience is the lone individual to whom I responded. If I were looking for an audience to persuade, I would submit a new post. I have not.
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
Agree. A good handful of us do ACTUALLY research shit then others who don’t believe us ask for evidence and sources...they still won’t believe if we provide something.
THEY have to be interested enough to find the evidence themselves...if not they don’t actually care at all and are just being trolls...imo!
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
The projection is strong here.
1 Jolcski 2018-06-05
How ironic
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Right.. I don't automatically think the worst when I see restraints being used to hold up shelters.
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
Restraints aren’t used to “hold up shelters”...how about the 80 pairs of children’s shoes they found...
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
Restraints generally aren’t used to hold up an underground shelter anyhow. Usually dirt (with various additions and modifications-like sewer tanks!) is used for underground shelters.
Just saying.
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
I don’t think homeless people would even go that far...
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
You know that if the elite are involved in human trafficking, which I believe they are, why the hell would you trust the police...ffs...
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Why would they use a homeless camp? I trust the actual investigators rather than people associated with Craig Sawyer.
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
Well it’s not a fucking homeless camp if they were trafficking now would it. Can I ask, are you actually a conspiracy theorist?
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
From the looks of his posts he mostly regurgitates MSM. Basically believes everything he is told. Ha
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
You are aware that human and children sex trafficking is the BIGGEST problem in the world?
The elite use it to fund their nefarious dealings throughout the world. And also use it to control the puppet politicians and “sub elite”.
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
Please explain to us how they use it to fund these nefarious dealings ???
1 Employee_073291 2018-06-05
They use the money they make illegally to fund all operations off the books. The same way the CIA does with drugs and their black projects.
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
This! 100%
1 jaydwalk 2018-06-05
Adult and child sex trafficking is the top tier conspiracy. They use it to blackmail to keep their underlings in control and it’s how they finance their deals to control world events.
1 iforgottopackmylunch 2018-06-05
I wonder if u/techntoke is one of those Russians who try to polarize US citizens because this guy is fucking insane
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2018-06-05
Removed Rule 10
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
Since when do we believe what the police say? We can hate on them all the time when it fits an agenda. But suddenly they are telling the truth about things?
Get outta here with that nonsense. The whole system is corrupt. It’s a huge focus here on this sub in case you haven’t noticed.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Just because there are a few bad apples, doesn't mean that the whole tree is bad. I would recommend people apply common sense, rather than listen to whatever someone rants about on YouTube without actually showing any proof to back up their claims.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
I believe these guys more than anything I’ve heard in the last decade or two from the media or government mouth pieces. These guys are trained. They are smart. They want suffering to end and you want call them idiots?
They are trying to save people. When is the last time anyone tried to save anyone? Instead of bashing them you should support them for being decent humans when all we hear about is death and destruction and people fighting and killing and dying while our government sits around jerking each other off over bullshit. These guys are bringing a ray of hope in to our county at a time we really need it.
Just fuck off with your ignorant bullshit that you clearly haven’t researched! If you don’t agree, don’t come to these threads.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Stand up people who project their delusional fantasies onto other people about child rape? That is some sick shit. I hope they get some type of involuntary psychiatric hold.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
How is it a delusional fantasy? There is evidence. Just cause the cops are in on it doesn’t mean they can make the rest of America believe them. The words out. Have you seriously watched the videos? Serious question?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Yes, the ones that were initially posted didn't have any indication that they were used for trafficking. The restraints on the trees looked normal. The bunker didn't appear to be sealed off in a way that would be used for anything nefarious. Do you have time markers and screen shots of what you think proves their claims?
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
In the amount of time you have spent arguing with people about your uninformed decision you could have watched the video twice. You want evidence then please go to their base and take pictures and videos and post them so we can all see them. I sure someone will eventually it was kind of the point of me posting this was creating awareness and to get someone on here from Tucson to take care of this for people.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Haha.. you want evidence, go to Tucson? No thanks. Why not provide some evidence before trying to defend their claims?
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
I tried but you ran away. :(.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Watching Unirock. He is doing a good job exposing this PSYOP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0l52vv6-3M
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
Is that right? Who is that and what have they provided that "exposes" this as a PSYOP?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
Evidence, unlike anything you've provided to show that it is.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
Like what?
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
We don’t need evidence! We hear about this kinda shit every day on the news. Rapes. Murders. Our border being barraged by people with both good and really bad intentions.
The ones with the really bad intentions are finally going down. Looks like it might take the whole damn establishment down with it if it gets big enough.
You pathetic arguments and tactics can’t stop this motherfucking train man.
No ones listening to you. And it’s amazing.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
“Restraints on trees”
“Normal”
... this fucking guy. lol
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You mean the same ones used to hold up the shelters in other areas? Yeah, I wouldn't see restraints on a tree where others are being used to hold things up, and immediately think "child rape."
This is the work of some delusional sick minds.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
Wouldn’t they then be called supports?
Freudian slips abound.
True colors, shining through.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
No, restraints are also the same. Ever heard of vehicle restraints? You can try all your psychological tactics to push this narrative and PSYOP all you want.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
But we aren’t talking about vehicles, are we?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
We are talking about whatever they are using on the trees to hold up the shelters. Maybe they are vehicle restraints.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
There's pictures out there of them. Can you show me vehicle restraints that look anything like what's in the pictures?
I mean, from what I've seen tied/attached to the trees, I haven't seen anything that looks anything like these, but maybe I just need glasses.
Perhaps you can tie them together for me?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
https://imgur.com/a/CMd3Sy2
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
lol - Straps. Ratchet straps.
There aren’t any ratchet straps in any of the images on what’s on the trees. They all look homemade and rigged from what they had.
Keep trying.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
So what kind of straps are they? Again, you are getting caught up in semantics and ignoring that they were being used to hold up the shelters.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
Very suspicious.
What purpose do you think this serves tied to that chair?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
That picture shows and proves nothing. I am done talking to you.
1 throwaway50955932 2018-06-05
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm asking you what purpose you think that serves rigged the way it is.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You're getting caught up in semantics. They don't look like child handcuffs if that is what you are trying to imply. News stations reported that they had the same (or similar) straps on other trees to hold up the shelters.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
But they had other things to hold up their shelters.
And solar panels. I’ve never seen a homeless camp with solar panels.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
No the ones that the victims who came out to help look for missing children said were rape trees. Because they’ve been tied to them before. Give me three good reasons for very strange leather straps to be tied to trees in a camp filled with porn, lube, kids underwear, a bunker an adult wouldn’t fit in unless they were pretty fucking small, hair dye, a bloody knife, random people trying to get BACK into the camp to dig up stuff they’d left behind, weird straps on trees that make no sense for animal tying- with blood on them. What animals have two appendages that need tied up like that? Unless there’s some kinda monkey smuggling operation going on....
Humans. It’s humans. And the cartels and the government are treating them like nothing. Just more pawns in their sick twisted games.
You’re not gonna convince people with your shit. This is too big. And too many people are doing everything they can to help these guys.
Keep calling it a psyop.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
If I were you I wouldn't even engage that user. You are just giving him a medium to spread his bullshit point of view. Pretty sure he doesn't even know the definition of conspiracy yet posts in this sub constantly. He has done this in Every thread about this subject.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
You’re right. I’m just so incredibly excited about these guys and what they are doing and don’t like it when these derps rain on my parade
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Just watched this update.. Fucking heart dropping. They found plans/blue prints for additional bunkers and they also found 2 other locations.
He literally says in the video they do not know who to trust. The evidence is on display and anyone can take photos. Is anyone in the area? I am personally going to post on the local sub reddits and see if someone can go down and take photos of the blue prints for further sharing.
You can tell he really needs the publics help. And he does. They need us. Does ANYONE have or managed to take photos of the blue prints and other related items? This will be a huge contribution to awareness if we can get photos of the evidence they have on display
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-05
They were trying to bury this before it even got off the ground. Tmor had a post ridiculing this at least 6 hours before it was posted here
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Not suprising.
I pray to god this blows up in everyones face that is trying to say this is nothing. And that's investigators/police and the media as well.
This has the potential to blow open further cases and continued support of this really has a good avenue for hitting mass consciousness
1 AlleganySmallmouth 2018-06-05
So the police investigators said this is nothing. Judging by the videos, it's nothing. He's just inventing things that he thinks are part of some rape/torture ring when they're clearly not. Straps on the trees that he claims are rape ropes are clearly being used to hold their shelters together.
So, good. Just looking at it logically, it seems like no one was raped there.
So my question is, why do you so desperately want this to be true. What is there to gain by trying to convince everyone this is true when all evidence says that it is not?
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
Let’s not forget, EVERYONE with ANY power in Tucson is a part of this. The media is covering this up, all law enforcement are either a part of the cover up or are too afraid, the courts are a part of the cover up. The Mayor is definitely involved because of his last name. Let’s not forget that it also has to go higher. I mean, the sheriff dept and the state police also have to be involved since they are doing nothing as well.
Of course, all that has to be true because the only other explanation is that this was a homeless camp. A regular old homeless camp with random shit thrown about. Nah, that’s just ridiculous. I’m going to go with the complete cover up by thousands of people.
1 defenestrate 2018-06-05
And yea let's not forget to put our super secret Rothschild's connected child sex dungeon on the side on some highway , tucked away behind some bushes.
I don't recall the last time I've seen such an obvious case of people wanting something to be true when Occam's razor is staring them in the face. And if you try to counter anything with a simpler explanation of what it is, you MUST be a shill and in on it.
Seriously, even if this IS some kind of sex trafficking thing , the chances of it being connected to who everyone is saying (HRC, Soros, Rothschild, et al) are beyond slim. You might as well say every time someones creepy uncle touches them they're acting on orders from Bill Clinton himself. It's ridiculous.
1 crankzoneftw 2018-06-05
What better way to traffic childern then near a highway?
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
How do you think these sick fucks get all their kids? A baby lab?
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
that too. rent a womb. the boy with the henna tattoo, for example. lets not discredit the baby trade via orphanages... but why pay for a kid, too much paper and traceable money... especially if plan to rape and kill them. simple economics, really.
1 travinyle1 2018-06-05
I don't think some or most people realize how easy and common it is for local media and law enforcement to simply spin or ignore what could be a potential massive story. I have seen it happen locally dozens of times. A student dies from hazing at a prominent local university. The frat members clearly responsible get 100% cleared because several of them have prominent fathers in office. County Police help with the initial cover up, all the local media plays along because it's a football school and their simply repeating whatever the law enforcement public relations office tells them to repeat. No one with local newspapers or television is doing any actual digging or investigating. They are parrots nothing more. That's essentially a low level thing that's easily covered up. Something much more sinister would quickly be managed by the local PR much faster and efficiently.
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
You have not seen it a dozen times. That is such a ridiculous lie it’s embarrassing. Give us 3 examples. Just 3 out of the dozen.
1 travinyle1 2018-06-05
Gave you one. Duke power plant had a leak International news was covering it but no local news. Dukes advertising and sponsor money with the chamber of commerce shut any local reporting down of leaks and spills locally. We have had gruesome murders hushed up by the local news but again reported internationally.
Are you really so naive that you think local news does real investigative journalism? Lmao. Have you not seen the clips of them reading the same damn script?
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
You mean this one that the Charlotte Observer covered along with several other local media stations ??
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article9094658.html
Also, you are giving us some random, generic examples that nobody could even try to authenticate. Give names, dates ... oh that’s right, you can’t because then you would realize that you are just making this shit up as you go.
1 travinyle1 2018-06-05
Nope, why you mad bro. Working that OT on this story
1 travinyle1 2018-06-05
Lol. You sure are bent out of shape working OT on this one aren't you
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
It literally took me under 1 minute to find that. Not figuratively. Literally. And I’m guessing if you actually provided any other details about any of these other “cover ups”, I could find the same in under a minute.
So tell me again - the local media is in on it and covering it up by not reporting it all the while reporting it ? Got it.
1 travinyle1 2018-06-05
Again are you that naive. Trust your local news guys. They will dig until they find the truth just like in Vegas.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
May I ask why you keep jumping comment to comment of mine trying to get me to respond to you?
If there is something here, I want it to see the light of day. Not be buried and covered up like so many cases have.
Not sure why you feel the need to follow me around and try to put words in my mouth. Leave me alone dude.
1 Dazzlerocks 2018-06-05
It's gaslighting.
1 captainn_chunk 2018-06-05
That account has been discrediting this event in almost every thread I’ve opened regarding the topic.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
We are gonna get hard with this shit. I guess it just went on Fox? They will try to say we are crazy but the truth is winning.
Brush off this little fucker and know better times are coming.
Or at least some of us finally have some hope for once. When’s the last time we’ve had any of that shit?
1 humangingercat 2018-06-05
So have I. I can't get enough of this shit. The shit you guys buy into is so fucking hilarious I can't help but just poke the obvious fucking holes in it.
Am I a shill too? Some kind of paid conspirator here to make you ask questions like "Where are the kids?" and "What about that dude who showed up and admitted that he and his father built it for a homeless man a few weeks ago?" or "Why didn't they, if they believed it was a rape camp, sit back and observe and attempt to capture whoever was using it and save children instead of immediately going live with it for shares + likes?"
1 paulie_purr 2018-06-05
People want to believe that positive things are happening and that scumbags are being brought down en masse. These sorts of mini-theories have hope at their core, which is why they are so alluring. Nobody wants to believe a child sex camp existed in Arizona, they want to believe such a thing was found out and stopped.
Of course, this allows for opportunists to spread disinfo they know will hit home regardless of evidence, which is basically what Q is.
1 seeking101 2018-06-05
the shelters that were underground?
yea yea that's right nothing to see here guys its a wrap lets talk about russia!
No one wants it to be true, but if it is we want justice to come out from it. we don't want it swept under the rug, covered up, and forgotten about.
You havent seen the evidence, you probably didnt even watch the videos tbh
1 live52 2018-06-05
Shill or just stupid?
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2018-06-05
Removed Rule 10
1 aaronuso 2018-06-05
I guarantee that Podesta and Co are tied up in this shit
1 crankzoneftw 2018-06-05
Chester b born place is in AZ!
1 aaronuso 2018-06-05
That designer that lived in New York was good friends with Hillary Clinton and she recently "committed suicide" today. I swear some something huge is happening someone should go investigate if you know what I mean
1 crankzoneftw 2018-06-05
People say Chester and Chris knew something big and they were goin go public and were killed off. Chris wife us friends with the spirit cooker lady!
1 GreenIDLady 2018-06-05
Marina abramovich?
1 crankzoneftw 2018-06-05
https://www.romaniajournal.ro/exclusive-yes-100-i-believe-both-chris-cornell-and-chester-bennington-were-murdered/
1 SeanFloyd 2018-06-05
Have you read this page? Looks like it was written by a 10 year old.
1 Cliche928 2018-06-05
So if this is true (which in my eyes it obviously is) why are we just finding these camps? I lived in Arizona all my life and I know some areas of the desert don't really get much traffic, but he had a video stating the homeless stay 300 yards or feet (can't recall which one) away because that's the "cartel" side. How is it just now making media? Is it because people rather listen to a patriot then some nobody and that's what it took to get headlines? I know the cops are paid off, but what about the citizens that came across these camps. That had to be hundreds if not thousands of people so how did they shut all of them up? They couldn't have killed all of them without raising red flags and if they paid them off then of course they know it's real sex camps and they wouldn't want normal citizens carrying that information. Which leads me to the question of why now?
1 SeanFloyd 2018-06-05
Chester gave an interview a week before his suicide about how he struggles with serious depression. He literally attempted to kill himself less than a year before that by hog-tying himself and jumping in his pool.
Chris Cornell has been writing about depression and suicide for 30 years.
This is truly a situation where there is absolutely no need to go full tin-foil hat. All the signs were there, in plain sight.
1 RDS 2018-06-05
Ya saw the news about Kate Spade and this is where my mind went...
1 scaredshtlessintx 2018-06-05
Every evil conspiracy has cops protecting the perpetrators
1 humangingercat 2018-06-05
Just to be clear: you're hoping that this really is a child rape camp and not just a homeless camp?
1 Lasterba 2018-06-05
lol
No.
If it actually is a child rape camp they hope it blows up in all the deniers' faces.
Come on man, use your brain.
1 humangingercat 2018-06-05
I think it's safe to say that everyone will feel pretty shitty if they find out there are children being raped, but he said
I think anyone with reading comprehension can take that as "boy I can't wait until all those skeptics are proven wrong," which, is kind of fucked up since you would think one would say "Boy I hope all the skeptics are right, I don't want to be right about this."
The dude is hoping for raped children for the sake of triggered skeptics.
1 Lasterba 2018-06-05
I found it obvious that the OP already believes that it is a child rape camp. There was nothing about hoping it was or wasn't...in their opinion, it already is and nothing will change that. So, the hope was for the skeptics to get shit on when the truth is revealed.
1 humangingercat 2018-06-05
Then he has a poor understanding of how evidence works
1 Lasterba 2018-06-05
That may be true. I still don't think he is at home just praying to god that little kids are getting raped out in the desert.
1 Vault32 2018-06-05
What kind of God lets that happen anyway? Let's child murder and rape be a thing that happens for centuries?
Asking for a friend
1 samout 2018-06-05
Human: "God, why did you let this awful shit happen...?"
God: "Why did you?"
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
molech. for one.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Making assumptions about what my beliefs are huh. Thanks for asking. I genuinely don't know what's going on as does no one. The point of the post was to start a discussion about things that weren't being discussed. Kinda the point of Reddit. Either way at the very least a child was living in a poorly ventilated septic tank in the desert and that child has been mistreated. No one should live that way and CPS should be involved.
1 chostings 2018-06-05
Welcome to politics in 2018
1 nekobasuice 2018-06-05
Prerequisite: a brain
1 mahteeuh 2018-06-05
So you actively wish for a child sex trafficking ring just so you can be right? What the fuck man.
1 lemonhazed 2018-06-05
He's wishing that the MSM doesn't win again and the comfortably ignorant American people wake the fuck up. This is only a sliver of the global trafficking ring.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Thanks for posting.
I'm getting up to speed now. Don't let the downvotes or screaming minority of professional skeptics deter you.
Do you personally have a good avenue of keeping p to date on this? Feel free to pm me. The hash tag was a good start but I imagine there is an easier way to get up to date info. Is he live streaming off his facebook? Feel free to pm. Thanks for the post!
1 Step2TheJep 2018-06-05
Yep.
If there is one thing this sub needs, it is more threads about pedos.
The more we talk about pedos, the more we let those ideas and thoughts into our minds, the more we focus our mental energies on pedos, the better, right?
Because talking about pedos will somehow stop them, right?
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2018-06-05
Actually, yea. The more awareness we bring to it the more likely we'll be able to stop it. Or would you rather us bury our heads and keep ignoring the issue?
1 Step2TheJep 2018-06-05
You know that the MSM has been reporting on pedo rings for decades, yeah?
How does that fit into your little theory?
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2018-06-05
It always gets ignored or buried. Now that some brave people are doing something about it, you want to downplay it and tell us to give it a rest? Stand proud there, friend.
1 Dazzlerocks 2018-06-05
It's true. I didn't even know about pedophilia until my teens. No one ever mentions it in the news to a point where I notice.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
That just shows you don’t pay attention.
1 YaBoyVolke 2018-06-05
Well aren't you quick to defend pedophilia.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
Cause that’s what they said? Get outta here.
1 Step2TheJep 2018-06-05
This is how this sub operates.
The pedo story lovers will attack anybody who questions why they love talking about pedo stories.
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
the msm who are owned by them. david brock, george coloboma soros, for starters.. who both have financially backing suppressive efforts.
low effort, man. or remarkably uninformed.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
He is live streaming off of his Facebook. VOP Camp Pulaski.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Thank you!
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
You are welcome! It’s amazing stuff
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Makes me want to help...
I can only do so much from a computer chair. Sadly this happens all over. I am trying to secure photographs of the blue prints and other evidence on display.
Do you know of anyone with photos of evidence? Someone has to have some
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
They took photos but they aren’t sharing EVERYTHING publicly. They have shared some of them on their fb pages.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Thanks for filling me in. All I can really do is further awareness at this point and watch from the side lines with my fingers crossed.
I'm going to need to create a throwaway facebook account just to check out the facebook pages.
I appreciate your responses, I hope this hits mass consciousness.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
I’m happy to fill you in on what I know! I have my fb account only to watch these guys. It’s worth it. Finally someone is using the platform for good. Watch all the videos and be inspired!
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
If you don't mind I am sure we will be in further contact
May send you a PM later tonight, just a heads up.
Regardless, I am making a throwaway FB account right now just for this purpose. Much thanks, see you around man.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
I will be happy to pm you!
Keep me posted on how I can help.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Sorry this is late but I myself am just getting caught up on all of this. This is literally what I dug up today. I believe that there is also a YouTube channel they are posting to although I have not had time to find it yet. Glad this has helped bring it some people's attention
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
There facebook page I found has the most up to date information and videos.
You can find the FB by searching VOP alpha CO - team pulaski
Pretty great videos and I've been going through catching up on the older ones. Seems the original site may have been bull dozed? Trying to verify this
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
I deleted my facebook account. I will make a fake account I guess.
1 Spiritual_War 2018-06-05
Yeah just use a throw away email account
You don't even need a mobile phone number or anything
You can even create a proton email account then use that for facebook. It wont disapoint their FB page is updated pretty much every hour
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
I will. I hate that I have to use it these days
1 Rollafatblunt 2018-06-05
Fuck man I want nothing more than to go help them but its all the way across the damn country!!! I'm fixing my car this weekend maybe the search will still be active.
1 DADAIZMO 2018-06-05
They say on their Videos that if you CAN NOT COME GO TO YOUR LOCAL CEMEX PLANT
1 feenuxx 2018-06-05
who says in what videos? I keep scrolling down this page hoping someone is going to make sense of what OP posted but I'm becoming increasingly disheartened...
1 defenestrate 2018-06-05
Get over yourself. You're going to fix your car and drive across the country to do what? Handcuff HRC yourself when she shows up to pick up her favorite chapstick she left behind at the open sex dungeon on Arizona? LMAO.
1 DNthecorner 2018-06-05
Because personal apathy by the average media-brainwashed American citizen is DEFINITELY the benchmark for sanity. Right?
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
No because finding people who are victims in the desert is a human thing to do.
LMAO/s
1 dreamorpheus 2018-06-05
You can also spread awareness via social media, word-of-mouth etc. that's what I'm doing. You can also donate. Veterans on Patrol won't accept money nor do they want a go fund me, but they do need some stuff like fuel cards. Go to their facebook page and they have an address. I think even just posting here, talking about it, doing research we are helping. Never discount the small stuff that you can do.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
Their search operation has officially been ext need to 3 months. Get your car fixed bro! They have food and lodging :) it’s hot and not fun but they need help!
1 DADAIZMO 2018-06-05
To those who understand the meaning of these words : The WHOLE TREE IS BAD where I am at ( Bobby Kennedy called where I grew up “ the most corrupt county in America”) There were underground tunnels in my church/school as a child / along with using evasive tech on us - There were literally Dirt Holes that went nearly miles to houses in the surrounding areas as well as a church a block away -children would be in the school one minute and then seen walking from the woods or a house over blocks away -THIS IS OLD SCHOOL SLOP ! Where I endured stuff like this. the “killings” where usually homeless adults or debtors (drugs or whatever)to get us to behave - I CAN CARE LESS THAT THIS IS RED saturnalia & I am sick of peoples telling me to post on the Chans !!! It has become much more sufficiently sophisticated where I come from - SADLY ; THAT MEANS that this crap is NEARLY IN THE OPEN ! And now that they’ve taken nearly everything dear to me - I feel I must try to be as openly frank as possible. [Im new to the whole social-engineering-experiment-but the Cue cards sucked me in and I felt that this was finally my time / yet w/ my conditioning and life experience I have no idea anymore if EVERYTHING happening here ON THE “ Web “is “ to justify the means “in America we have been under Martial Rule !! I PRAY YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!! That’s easily proven- this patriot crap hasn’t truly existed since before the last Civil War !!! / shoot the messenger all you want I’m used to it ! Just please THINK CRITICALLY ] There are tons of public officials who’ve been charged & are running churches or in government here .Who do you go to when you’ve already been black-listed for asked no questions -not that there aren’t good people in government! It’s just that here ; they just have been put in job positions that are best for them to make sure the money flows into bonds to build more court houses !!! I can elaborate on this...... regardless WILL YOU PEOPLE CHECK OUT YOUR LOCAL CEMEX PLANT ? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT WAS CROSSED W/ THE USE OF THE STAVIA DATA TRACKER? WILL YOU FIND WHAT I DID ? Nevertheless I am high speculative of all of this ? Sorry I was conditioned for a total societal collapse before 2020 w/ when the world discovers “ what we do “ . Which were some of the mottos I was hammered w/ daily by nuns- yes it was being openly operated by several catholic organizations - it closed shop in the 80’s & moved across the street -( the only thing close to the operation that I survived that’s been declassified was MKSEARCH ) my debriefing lasted years as far as I know it’s never stopped & now the people who went through the entire process are running the show here . In my opinion- Sincerely Lost with no hope ,Dada
1 ChanadalerBong 2018-06-05
it's for a church honey! just looking for help don't need the attitude! NEXT!
1 DADAIZMO 2018-06-05
https://www.cemexusa.com/find-your-location
1 samout 2018-06-05
Commenters like that are only here to make everyone think as if a subreddit had a bunch of crazy boomers to ridicule the clearly awful shit going on there.
garlicbread
1 thedeadlyrhythm 2018-06-05
Uh... What?
1 Dazzlerocks 2018-06-05
I upvoted!
1 lets_get_lowwerr 2018-06-05
I'm so lost about this entire thing. All I know is a possible child sex camp was found in AZ. That's it.
Take my upvote anyway
1 ILoveJuices 2018-06-05
Child sex camp with tunnels to the local casino with pedophile symbolism. The camp is located on property owned by CEMEX cement company. It is on the border of mexico. CEMEX is owned by Soros and the Rothschilds. CEMEX makes donations to the clinton foundation. CEMEX has had building contracts in Haiti, which is a known hot bed for child trafficking. This is going to be the biggest sex trafficking and pedophile exposure of the most powerful people the world has ever seen.
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
Add in the fact that this administration is separating children from families at the border and across the US without documentation, and we have a really big operation going on.
1 ILoveJuices 2018-06-05
Not quite.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1003969399148118016
https://rewire.news/article/2018/06/01/wherearethechildren-showed-progressives-didnt-learn-anything-immigration-obama-administration/
Trump is a good guy working with white hats. See you on the front lines /r/greatawakening
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
Oh boy. Another "the billionaire will save us" delusional mouthpiece. Donald bragging about walking in on nude and semi-nude teenagers in Miss Teen and Miss USA pageants wasn't enough to make him suspicious? What about the photoshoot of him and an extremely young Ivanka? What about saying he'd like to date his daughter?
The man is extremely suspicious. Condoning his behavior because you like good politics is disgusting.
1 live52 2018-06-05
The Clintons are more suspicious than anyone. This thread is about child trafficking in AZ. You just want to derail the discussion. Another shill over here.
1 run-dtcplusg 2018-06-05
Man you sound like the generic trumpet idiot. Call everyone who disagrees with you shills and, “but the Clintons are the worst!”
1 Ed_G_ShitlordEsquire 2018-06-05
Objectively they really are though.
1 run-dtcplusg 2018-06-05
But it has absolutely nothing to do with this article. You discredit this forum when you interrupt real discussion with “but what about them Clinton’s though!”
1 ILoveJuices 2018-06-05
Nice astroturfing. Clintons are part of the swamp. Trump is no saint, but he definitely isn't swamp. He is working with white hats and exposing deep state.
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
I would love to know why you think Trump is the only elite, Hollywood, billionaire, socialite that loves common people and isn't a part of the elite, Hollywood, billionaire socialite pedophiles rings.
His history with Miss Teen and Miss USA would suggest otherwise. His obsession with his young daughter would suggest otherwise. His circle of friends (the Clintons, gasp!) would suggest otherwise.
1 Ed_G_ShitlordEsquire 2018-06-05
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
1 Kennek4 2018-06-05
Shill account.
1 run-dtcplusg 2018-06-05
How
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2018-06-05
Removed Rule 10
1 chostings 2018-06-05
Maralago is a child trafficking stop.
1 live52 2018-06-05
And here.
1 burtmt 2018-06-05
Good source you provided there!
1 EnclaveHunter 2018-06-05
More like white hoods
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
yep. multiple presidential administrative ties, through decades. we literally fund the trafficking of children. and cps, the military, the police, and even the private sector is involved. bilderberg is addressing "post-truth world" at the years meeting. i wonder. golly gee.
1 EnclaveHunter 2018-06-05
Didn't you know the Dems forces him to do that?
1 Cervical_Plumber 2018-06-05
Almost all of this is made up. Where is the "tunnel?" Proof? I think what you were referring to is a wash, nothing underground and nothing sinister. They are drainage during our monsoons.
This location is not "on the border" it over 60 miles to Nogales (the closest border town).
Cemex is not "owned" by Soros and/or the Rothschilds. Lynne De Rothschild is on the board of directors, but it is a publically traded company. Do some research. This all publicly available info.
You just parroting nonsense you read on the internet is why people don't take "conspiracy theories" seriously.
1 KarmicEnigma 2018-06-05
Thank you for this. Once I read "Soros and Rothschilds" I knew bullshit was afloat.
1 Cervical_Plumber 2018-06-05
The crazy thing is that there could be some kernels of truth to this story. I imagine this camp they found might have been used for moving illegal immigrants, which often happens in a weird space between voluntary/involuntary, often under terrible conditions. Perhaps some really bad stuff went down here, it is hard to say.
To jump the immediate conclusion that this was a "CHILD RAPE CAMP RUN BY SOROS AND THE ROTHSCHILDS" is so so dumb. A bunch of misinformed internet sleuths connecting dots that aren't there.
And the VOP guys, they keep making a bunch of outlandish claims but literally back none of it up with video or photographic evidence. This dude has been live streaming for DAYS and we get no quality video of any of this? Just more really bold claims and zero evidence that should be easily demonstrable considering he is filming constantly. I remain skeptical until they show some evidence.
1 KarmicEnigma 2018-06-05
Absolutely! And sadly there is a chance it won't get the real investigation it deserves because of nuttyass claims.
This reminds me SO MUCH of Pizzagate. There were definitely some kernels of weirdness that warranted exploration, but the nuts quickly came in and muddied the water so much the entire thing quickly became a joke.
1 EnclaveHunter 2018-06-05
It's owned by Hillury Clinton! It's where she practices her slab of meat procedure! Thsts where they faked their Mars child ring!
/S for those who need it
1 NoThanksRandy 2018-06-05
no links at all to back this up?
1 NYC_Subway 2018-06-05
Interesting indeed. Did they keep the shoes in camp and transfer the kids barefooted to avoid forensic mud detection?
1 crankzoneftw 2018-06-05
Trophies fir all their kills
1 iforgottopackmylunch 2018-06-05
Wtf so scary
1 dreamorpheus 2018-06-05
Maybe it's to make it harder for the kids to run off in the desert with no shoes on. Lots of cacti, rocks and stuff that are hard on the feet. I would not want to be barefoot in the desert.
1 NYC_Subway 2018-06-05
plausible, probably more than my guess
1 rover1818 2018-06-05
Anyone understand what’s going on yet? We live on one big fucking farm.
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
http://themetapicture.com/media/cool-chicken-metaphor-conspiracy-Government.jpg
1 RandomLEOThrowaway 2018-06-05
Lmao this is the most stupid shit ever. Out of all the desert surrounding Tucson they pick I19 and fucking Valencia? Not exactly a super secret location. Just about every homeless camp in the city looks similar to this one. Campbell and 28th, Golf Links and Columbus, etc. Get over yourselves and find another hobby.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Seems like you are from the area. Why not just stop by their camp and shoot some pics for us and talk to these people. You seem to be the only one so far near there. Maybe you could enlighten us either way. Just saying
1 IAMToddHowardAMA 2018-06-05
its called hiding in plain sight
1 010110011101000 2018-06-05
Exactly, these homeless people have kids. They are Mexican/native american. They have always have a lot of kids. I'm not seeing the proof of child trafficking.
1 Cervical_Plumber 2018-06-05
Agreed. There are semi permanent homeless camps all over Tucson. Structures, tons of trash, etc. I grew up near the Pantano and Tanque Verde washes and we used to go scope on out when we were teenagers. Lots of similarities to this particular site.
1 010110011101000 2018-06-05
I've lived in Yuma Arizona for the past 5+ years and have seen these type of homeless shelters all around. These people maybe homeless but a lot still have jobs. Rent is too damn expensive.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
So they spent their life savings to buy a $10,000 or more septic tank delivered into the middle of nowhere desert all the while they could have just bought an rv and shit on a toilet? I guess some people might be that dumb but they def don't have jobs
1 010110011101000 2018-06-05
Where is the proof that the septic cost 10k? If they had the money to pay for septic permits and have a $10k septic tank system installed then maybe they wouldn't be molesting children in the bushes.
I had a septic tank installed in S.C. and it cost $2,900. In the desert it would be cheaper. But still unnecessary unless you have running water. Where is the pictures of said 10k septic system? I'm not seeing the proof.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Also you can buy a very decent rv for $2900 doesn't really matter.
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
Why haven't the guys in the video provided any of this evidence to us? He has a camera in his hands and he wants other people to take pictures. You take the goddamn picture!
1 thedeadlyrhythm 2018-06-05
This was an abandoned construction site... How do we know the empty tank wasnt already they're and just used as makeshift shelter? And why do you keep deliberately trying to inflate the cost of a septic tank?
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
It was more an estimate. I just remembered from looking at some while I was working for a farm. From what I remembered and from seeing the size and shape from the video. Seemed like I pretty reasonable guess. Could have been lower could have been higher. More of just wanted to point out they aren't cheap.
1 I_Need_A_Fork 2018-06-05
lol you pulled that $10k number out of your ass and now people are spreading it around.
That's on you.
1 thedeadlyrhythm 2018-06-05
Goes to show you how the bullshit spreads
1 difficult_vaginas 2018-06-05
Is the septic tank shown on the video? How do we know that the same people who built the camp had the tank installed? Seems more likely that it was already there and they happened to build the camp beside it.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Not in this video. One of the other videos that as been posted in this sub though. Check it.
1 iforgottopackmylunch 2018-06-05
They found porn there though?
1 010110011101000 2018-06-05
People that have kids don't watch porn? There were porn magazines stashed there? Does that mean they are automatically child molesters?
I'm just saying that from the video I watched, it looks like any other kind of homeless shelter. I didn't see anything that screamed kids were being trafficked there.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Another thing I wanted to point out that I really have not heard anyone else mention is the fact that this supposed homeless camp had a $10,000 septic tank that was buried in the ground in the middle of nowhere. These homeless people would have had to save up to years panhandling and then paid to have shipped in the middle of nowhere. No way they were homeless they def had money to spend on things.
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
And solar panels.
1 Cervical_Plumber 2018-06-05
Can you all provide some links on these facts? Pictures of the septic tank and/or solar panels?
1 chronicdemonic 2018-06-05
Yeah for real I'm interested too
1 bobqjones 2018-06-05
pretty hard to get pics of a septic tank unless you were there when it was installed.
you know they're underground, right?
1 COOKlES 2018-06-05
So how does OP know about them?
1 bobqjones 2018-06-05
no idea
1 GobBluth19 2018-06-05
seems like your initial comment should have been higher up then and asking how OP knew such a thing
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
downvoted for cheeky logic. shame on you, reddit.
1 Pyronic_Chaos 2018-06-05
Or the shoes
Or the bunkers
Or the blueprints
Or the blood concentrate (?)
Or really anything except the talking heads. Comeon folks, we have people delving into details about Shia's flag, Antarctic sub-ice facilities/structures, UFOs all over, but we can't get a single solid picture out of a highly public group in a known location? People that are begging for help and support?
I'm definitely a skeptic on this one until VOP provides something more.
1 illBoopYaHead 2018-06-05
https://youtu.be/Q2SnNT2W7qA video of the septic tank
1 Cervical_Plumber 2018-06-05
Dude, that is the "core" discovery they made. The bunker that started this whole thing.
Not a $10,000.00 septic tank. Nobody is disputing there was an fairly unusual underground structure out there.
1 illBoopYaHead 2018-06-05
https://youtu.be/Q2SnNT2W7qA video of the septic tank
1 GoGo443457 2018-06-05
man....whats in that septic tank?
1 Based_Luke_Skywalker 2018-06-05
Probably a tank full of acid with melted kids in it.
1 Weareone2 2018-06-05
God I would think that be crazy. Buts it's not. It could very well happen.
1 GobBluth19 2018-06-05
Picture/video of this septic tank and how you know what it costs?
1 illBoopYaHead 2018-06-05
https://youtu.be/Q2SnNT2W7qA i believe this is the septic tank.
1 GobBluth19 2018-06-05
the cell with the stuff in it is the tank? i'm just trying to figure out how OP determined the price of that tank...
1 illBoopYaHead 2018-06-05
I guess so. I don't know anything about septic tanks but it fits the profile.
1 GobBluth19 2018-06-05
So now the question is why is OP stating things as facts that appear to be very far from the truth, when what's actually in the video is plenty disturbing on its own
1 thedeadlyrhythm 2018-06-05
Because they really really want it to be true so they feel like they're up on something
1 JeffBurk 2018-06-05
I don't understand why there aren't any pictures or videos of what this group is claiming. If they have so much evidence and saw so much why not show it? The excuse that they are worried about the authorities doesn't really make sense as if they wait and what they claim is true, the authorities could just take it.
I watched several of the videos but it's just some guy talking and not actually showing what they claim. Is there something I'm missing about all of this or are people just taking this groups word for it?
1 Cervical_Plumber 2018-06-05
Exactly. There are some local news channels that show some good daylight footage of the site. It's pretty involved site and def a little creepy. I doubt a lot of good stuff happens there but these VOP from guys, from what I have seen, immediately just to "RAPE CAMP" without providing a whole lot of reasoning or proof.
1 JeffBurk 2018-06-05
I live in a major US city (Portland, OR). What I saw on the news articles looks just like another homeless camp, which are all over basically every US city.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
I have seen some crazy set ups for sure. No one living in a septic tank buried in the ground though. Probably not looking hard enough? Why go through all that trouble when you could have a tent. They def don't need 80 pairs of kids shoes. I am sure you know that you can get an rv in the NW pretty cheap so why buy an expensive, hot ass septic tank to live in? People on site are claiming some of that stuff had have been there for years. No one in there right mind would live in a hot ass, unventilated septic tank in the desert for years. That makes no sense.
But let's say that you are right and it was a homeless camp. Some kid was still living in a septic tank in the desert and at the very least and that child was not being treated properly. CPS should be involved at minimum. No kid should be living that way ever.
1 JeffBurk 2018-06-05
I'm just asking where are the photos or videos for any of these claims?
How come these people can make videos of themselves talking about what they saw but can't take or post a photo of it?
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
Because that is how psyops work
1 scaredshtlessintx 2018-06-05
How were they able to bury a septic tank without equipment?
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
I agree that it is weird they aren't really sharing everything they are claiming. The only thing I can come up with is that they are being cautious about things. These guys were military and have a love for this country. It makes sense that they would initially keep things under wrap until the authorities came to investigate. I am sure some key things were given to police to help but now that they are not gaining traction and claims of no evidence all over the news they seem to have given up on them and handling things themselves. Everything I am seeing these guys were genuinely freaked out by this place and still are and have shifted to finding these people and uncovering what all they stumbled upon. Hopefully once things start to settle down they can present some more facts. I don't thing people would just be showing up to volunteer if this was all nothing.
1 JeffBurk 2018-06-05
Seeing this article makes me extremely doubt the "good" intentions of the group. It seems like they aren't even vets and using the term to get attention (and probably money from donations): http://www.kvoa.com/story/31338954/veterans-group-does-not-file-legally-required-papers
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Just because they haven't been licensed to use the word veterans to collect donations doesn't mean they aren't veterans. Other veterans take stealing valor very seriously. I actually date a veteran and she takes it to heart. Any time a homeless person claims to be a vet to get money she quizzes the hell out of them s asks them what their MO was, Where they were stationed, etc... If they try and bullshit her on that she will make the person very sorry. I have seen her pull this 3 Times each time it ended with the person apologizing profusely. If these guys are faking being veterans they will be sorry for sure but I highly doubt it as his mannerrism and the way he talks is just like someone who has been in the military.
1 JeffBurk 2018-06-05
You trust him just because of the way he talks?
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Not what I said. Second time now you have misread something.
1 harrycontrary 2018-06-05
The article says that Arthur is not a veteran and is considering changing the groups name.
1 cryo 2018-06-05
Another thing I can come up with is that the evidence doesn’t exist or is fake.
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
The authorities can't investigate anything vigilantes find. That evidence is tainted. The absolute best these guys can do is put the evidence in their videos. It's extremely suspect that he only talks about evidence when the entire operation should be on video.
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
This!
1 cryo 2018-06-05
That’s the Reddit way. Especially on subs like this.
1 KarmicEnigma 2018-06-05
Because as we saw with Pizzagate, they only need to make the claim for it to spread like wildfire. Evidence not needed (sadly).
1 cantwithdrawbtc 2018-06-05
Homeless people don't have the means to put a septic tank underground.
1 cryo 2018-06-05
Have you seen this septic tank?
1 cantwithdrawbtc 2018-06-05
Yep
1 illBoopYaHead 2018-06-05
I believe this is it https://youtu.be/Q2SnNT2W7qA
1 obeythewafflehouse 2018-06-05
Anyone know more about the 1500 kids the government lost?
1 stonerboy520 2018-06-05
I live here in Tucson born & raised. I’ve been following this story ever since the camp was discovered. A group of vets go around town searching for vets and homeless camps to help get them off the streets. They stumbled upon this place and immediately knew something was different due to the pornography, kids shoes, ties on the trees, a bloody knife, and much more. And don’t worry everyone knows about the septic tank and are definitely focused on it. Investigators are saying it could’ve been used to hold children. It’s all so sick.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
So the group claims you can go by their bravo base camp and see all the things they have collected, take pics, and video and also asks for help to spread the word through social media. Anyway you would go by there and help us to see some of what they are talking about? I know a lot of people are dying to see what all they are talking about.
1 stonerboy520 2018-06-05
Yea I’m 25 min out from it. I’ll go out and check it out tomorrow. I was watching a live video like two days ago and the white guy that is screenshotted said TPD was going to go pick up the knife that had blood on it so I doubt that’s still there. Anything that is there I will get you guys more info and pics.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
Yes!!!! That is awesome. I was hoping that when I posted this someone from Tucson would show up and help. Thank you. Look forward to seeing what post thank you.
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
Why not leave the evidence where it was instead of moving it to another site?
1 TheRiseofMindhawk 2018-06-05
8 chan = acceptable link
facebork = not acceptable link
some good rumors here i bet there are blueprints, we need to find them though.
1 xd366 2018-06-05
what kind if phone does this guy have. why is he recording in potato quality.
1 MrWizard111 2018-06-05
It was more an estimate. I just remembered from looking at some while I was working for a farm. From what I remembered and from seeing the size and shape from the video. Seemed like I pretty reasonable guess. Could have been lower could have been higher. More of just wanted to point out they aren't cheap.
1 stonerboy520 2018-06-05
I can tell you for a fact that these guys aren’t involved and it’s no way a homeless camp. I saw the live video of them touring the camp and it was just sick.
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
What was sick?
In the video I saw there was nothing that showed evidence of child trafficking
It showed evidence children were most likely there but what evidence leads to trafficking?
1 ColtonXO 2018-06-05
Arm restraints on the trees, low enough for children, and big pieces of scrap metal around the trees most likely for "privacy". Sounds like some kids just havin fun ay?
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
Sounds like straps that are used to hold branches and other tools kind of like they were doing on the one tree in the first video of the tour of the site
People are jumping to conclusions based on emotion instead of looking for and presenting actual evidence
1 stonerboy520 2018-06-05
Are you kidding me? The restraints on the trees? Over EIGHTY children’s shoes, pornography, and the septic tank that looked like it was used to hold children. And please don’t tell me the restraints could’ve been something else. I’ve seen countless actual reports of rape trees and it’s terrible. You’re gonna tell me children were here just for fun and not for trafficking?
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
I'm going to say there is no evidence as of yet that there is a connection to trafficking
Everything you listed either has not been shown or can have other uses other than jumping straight to child sex trafficking
Is it possible? Absolutely
Have we seen solid evidence to show us any actual connection to trafficking? No
if the people pushing this so hard were not the ones who recently got exposed for trying to run another psyop, and this is basically trying to use the same psychology, I'm going to let the cops handle this and not people who I already do not trust
Let the cops handle it and present evidence, not start another Bundy ranch
1 miketitan 2018-06-05
"I'm going to let the cops handle this and not people who I already do not trust"... Ohhh the irony.
What sort of evidence would satisfy you regarding a connection to trafficking?
Considering the items and contents of the camp, why do you feel it is such a stretch to assume something nefarious is going on down there?
Are cops immune to corruption?
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
I'll trust those cops over people who have already tried to (and succeeded to a degree) decieve people.
As of this point those specific cops have not to my knowledge attempted to deceive us, and until they do, I'll give them more trust than the others
What evidence would satisfy me?
I hadn't thought about that honestly, umm, for the sex part, probably some sort of DNA which would need to be lab tested to see if there is a match at all, but if there was used condoms or something to that degree
I wouldn't automatically jump to it being sex with minors even with that though honestly, if there was child pornography, that would definitely make me consider it a possibility
For trafficking it would take a lot, most likely it would take video, audio or some sort of documentation evidence.
There's probably stuff I'm missing but I'm happy to look at all evidence (I've watched as many videos as I've been able to find) people have if they want to link it
First, I don't think it's smart to assume anything, Espcially something to this degree
Now, I never said nothing nefarious was going on there, please don't put words in my mouth
I have said that as of yet, I have seen no evidence that shows child sex trafficking
I have already said it is possible, I just think it's smart to rely on evidence rather than emotion and assumptions
1 snapper1976 2018-06-05
this is the first I'm hearing of this. Why is this not on the news???
1 asailorssway 2018-06-05
bc the news is owned by tptb. and tptb are kiddie diddlers.
1 fortfive 2018-06-05
How big is the site, and where were the shoes found?
1 hatton101 2018-06-05
Anyone been able to find the coordinates of this place? Id like to satellite check it and surrounding areas etc
1 BlueLaceSensor128 2018-06-05
I'm definitely one of the open-minded people on this sub and I tried looking at some of this stuff yesterday, but it's all over the place. Not sure if the people trying to make everyone more aware are not aware themselves, but people on the internet hate videos. Especially if they video does not cut right to the chase. If they have to sit through more than half a second of anything interesting they're going to change the channel. So pictures please. (And please don't link from crazy.com, put it somewhere I wouldn't be afraid to put my click in.)
Is there any way we could get a concise, organized explanation of who/what/when/where here, perhaps in another post? And with clear pictures of the evidence.
Who is this group/person? I don't need a cop or a scientist at a podium, it can be a dude with a camera. But it can't be a dude with a camera who's lied to us before or stands to profit from BSing. Also, who owns it or who's been there recently? I have a feeling that if people with investigatory experience were involved from the get-go, they could have gone around and tried to collect as many hair samples as possible or something for identifying victims/traffickers/witnesses, but instead it sounds like lots of people have come in and more or less ruined that opportunity. But maybe not? Who owns it? What do they usually do there? Is it weird that they own it or do they own lots of other similar properties and has anyone poked around those for similar setups there before they can cover their tracks?
What did they find? Pictures. Explanations. Please hold back from extrapolating basic things into outlandish ones, if there are a couple of solidly damning things, don't even mention the other eight sorta normal things that could be something crazy. You just muddy the water and create doubt. You don't have a PR or a marketing team, you have to be your own PR/marketing team and recognize the strongest points and the weakest ones. In the same way that the media can downplay a story by only highlighting the trivial things, we can sow the seeds of our own destruction by emphasizing too much weak evidence too strongly. They just need a reason, any reason to doubt something they already don't want to believe.
When did the events occur? From the map it looked like there was a neighborhood across the freeway. Have any of those people been asked if there's been any activity on that other side in the last week/month/year? There have been mentions of the police being notified and stopping by already/others saying that ignored them - it would be interesting to see a timeline of these events with statements/articles/police reports showing a clear rundown so we're not having to just rely on a few people.
Where exactly is this? I guess I really mean, why was this place chosen? Where did the kids go? Where did the come from? (fuck off cotton eyed joe) Was there some sort of industrial operation nearby or trade show or event, short or long term, that happened at the time the children are suspected of being there that would explain them being there?
Don't hookers flood to Super Bowls and World Cups? So wouldn't child sex traffickers flock to places where their services are needed, but on a smaller scale? So what if this was a stockyards of sorts, a temporary holding point for a Taken-like sex camp that moved along with some drilling crews or a Taken-like auction of kids to foreign princes?
1 SketchTeno 2018-06-05
In other timely occurrences, we had the 11 person ring busted that included a legoland employee and disneyland employee in florida, yes?
1 Jigglyraffe 2018-06-05
There’s a lot more people feeling sorry for you at this point.
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You want more? I could waste more time on you, but you'll ignore any evidence.
1 AlleganySmallmouth 2018-06-05
So the police investigators said this is nothing. Judging by the videos, it's nothing. He's just inventing things that he thinks are part of some rape/torture ring when they're clearly not. Straps on the trees that he claims are rape ropes are clearly being used to hold their shelters together.
So, good. Just looking at it logically, it seems like no one was raped there.
So my question is, why do you so desperately want this to be true. What is there to gain by trying to convince everyone this is true when all evidence says that it is not?
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
https://imgur.com/a/CMd3Sy2
1 techntoke 2018-06-05
You're getting caught up in semantics. They don't look like child handcuffs if that is what you are trying to imply. News stations reported that they had the same (or similar) straps on other trees to hold up the shelters.
1 aaronuso 2018-06-05
I guarantee that Podesta and Co are tied up in this shit
1 crankzoneftw 2018-06-05
Chester b born place is in AZ!
1 Dazzlerocks 2018-06-05
It's true. I didn't even know about pedophilia until my teens. No one ever mentions it in the news to a point where I notice.
1 humangingercat 2018-06-05
Just to be clear: you're hoping that this really is a child rape camp and not just a homeless camp?
1 humangingercat 2018-06-05
I think it's safe to say that everyone will feel pretty shitty if they find out there are children being raped, but he said
I think anyone with reading comprehension can take that as "boy I can't wait until all those skeptics are proven wrong," which, is kind of fucked up since you would think one would say "Boy I hope all the skeptics are right, I don't want to be right about this."
The dude is hoping for raped children for the sake of triggered skeptics.
1 nekobasuice 2018-06-05
Prerequisite: a brain
1 mahteeuh 2018-06-05
So you actively wish for a child sex trafficking ring just so you can be right? What the fuck man.
1 ILoveJuices 2018-06-05
Child sex camp with tunnels to the local casino with pedophile symbolism. The camp is located on property owned by CEMEX cement company. It is on the border of mexico. CEMEX is owned by Soros and the Rothschilds. CEMEX makes donations to the clinton foundation. CEMEX has had building contracts in Haiti, which is a known hot bed for child trafficking. This is going to be the biggest sex trafficking and pedophile exposure of the most powerful people the world has ever seen.
1 lemonhazed 2018-06-05
He's wishing that the MSM doesn't win again and the comfortably ignorant American people wake the fuck up. This is only a sliver of the global trafficking ring.
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
Oh boy. Another "the billionaire will save us" delusional mouthpiece. Donald bragging about walking in on nude and semi-nude teenagers in Miss Teen and Miss USA pageants wasn't enough to make him suspicious? What about the photoshoot of him and an extremely young Ivanka? What about saying he'd like to date his daughter?
The man is extremely suspicious. Condoning his behavior because you like good politics is disgusting.
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
What was sick?
In the video I saw there was nothing that showed evidence of child trafficking
It showed evidence children were most likely there but what evidence leads to trafficking?
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
This!
1 9teen84 2018-06-05
Because that is how psyops work
1 chostings 2018-06-05
Maralago is a child trafficking stop.
1 run-dtcplusg 2018-06-05
But it has absolutely nothing to do with this article. You discredit this forum when you interrupt real discussion with “but what about them Clinton’s though!”
1 ILoveJuices 2018-06-05
Nice astroturfing. Clintons are part of the swamp. Trump is no saint, but he definitely isn't swamp. He is working with white hats and exposing deep state.
1 Ed_G_ShitlordEsquire 2018-06-05
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
1 MaesterPraetor 2018-06-05
I would love to know why you think Trump is the only elite, Hollywood, billionaire, socialite that loves common people and isn't a part of the elite, Hollywood, billionaire socialite pedophiles rings.
His history with Miss Teen and Miss USA would suggest otherwise. His obsession with his young daughter would suggest otherwise. His circle of friends (the Clintons, gasp!) would suggest otherwise.
1 EnclaveHunter 2018-06-05
More like white hoods
1 thedeadlyrhythm 2018-06-05
Goes to show you how the bullshit spreads
1 Kyle_77 2018-06-05
It literally took me under 1 minute to find that. Not figuratively. Literally. And I’m guessing if you actually provided any other details about any of these other “cover ups”, I could find the same in under a minute.
So tell me again - the local media is in on it and covering it up by not reporting it all the while reporting it ? Got it.