Lol do you actually believe that or are you joking? Bc if you actually believe that my apologies for saying that but if you're joking what do you actually think happened?
I know someone who knew him in person and he didn't want to say much about it, but hinted that he didn't die back then. I never looked into Tupacs death at all myself, so I can't say anything about how possible/ impossible that seems, it's just what I was told by somebody who knew him.
I think it was pretty common knowledge to everyone at the time that Orlando did it. He told people he did it, given the circumstances it completely makes sense. Pac just bit off more than he could chew with the wrong person...
Really hard to say at this point. There were so many potential motives of different parties. Monetary stakes were very high and that whole label was balls deep in some seriously sketchy shit. Not only did they have a lot of unsavory traditional entertainment figures involved, but you also had corrupt off duty LAPD and even mob ties.
Couple that with the fact he was a young rebellious guy who had proven himself to be pretty reckless and irresponsible. Whats clear to me is that it probably wasnt Anderson. But this has gotten to such a level of mystery legend and speculation, we will likely never know. When you have artists that are able to psychologically impact their fans to the extent that he did, the stakes are higher. You just never know what was real, what was fake and what was just constructed and part of the stage spectacle. Its like speculating about Elvis.
But there does seem to be a concerted effort to mislead and disinform and distort facts, so it's pretty fair to say, when you have an official story that is repeated verbatum, and it doesnt add up, like most conspiracies, you can conclude the official story is likely untrue.
Wow! I agree with you so much throughout most of this. But I'd like to hear out theories and why people believe so. Because as you said it could've been anyone but theres a few big figures that people believe did it and I'm wondering whats their reasoning for that.
There is a BuzzFeed Episode about this (there is a second part to this episode as well) that explains some theories. I enjoy BuzzFeed Unsolved because they explain cases in an interesting and simple way.
I disagree with almost everything else BuzzFeed stands for but there is something enjoyable about their funny banter and interesting content in their Unsolved episodes. Everybody has their guilty pleasures I guess.
i think it was petty to be honest. I was a teenage back then and Rep was a big thing. Tupac was blowing up and calling out smalls and willing the "battle"
So shit be shit. Getting even was the thing to do.
Trump and the Russians in order to make Kanye the next big thing so he could eventually come out as a Trump supporter to lend him credibility so he would have cover for murdering Chester.
It's in the FBI Files on Biggie. However, they were only searching for systematic police corruption, not individual police corruption, or the deaths of Tupac or Biggie, so they didn't recommend ant charges. If you're interested it's all there ... just 500 pages.
If I have to be honest I am betting he is still alive. I mean.... His bank account was emptied besides the money for his remaining legal issues. Idk, and the whole "makaveli" thing.
I believe it's known among his close associates that he's still alive. Eminem and Kendrick Lamar have both mentioned going to Cuba to get away from fame. The photo supposedly from the morgue which is taken from a music video and doesn't show his new neck tattoos.
So goes the story, from what I remember anyway, don't quote me on this as I haven't studied this case. Just some stuff I remember from somebody who said they did(was on The Higherside Chats way back in 14 I think).
Tupac was shot on the night of Mike Tyson's fight in Vegas. Forgive the spelling here if it's wrong, speaking frankly I don't care if I do spell it wrong cause this guy is probably a murderer, Sug Night owned a club right across the street from a hospital.
The way it turned out, the streets were packed with traffic because it was fight night. So when Tupac was shot, they were very close to 'Sug nights' club and by proxy a hospital as well. 'Sug night' decided he was going to drive across town to a different hospital despite the massive traffic jams. Tupac apparently bled out.
He was alive and coherent after he was shot. Once he got in that ambulance...it was a different story. Some people shot him, others finished the job. He made A LOT of enemies, his lyrics beyond the his top 40 hits were extremely damning to the elite. How many times did he mention Illuminati? Take a look at his upbringing, affiliated with the Black Panthers and the underground, he knew his history, and thats enough to get you killed.
If Tupac is alive then yes indeed the shooting was real and he barely survived. He would've turned states evidence to avoid jail time for the Baby Lane beating. In doing so he would help take down Death Row which did happen very quickly. As a huge fan of Pac I always hold out hope he's still alive but if he is you will never here from him again.
I know someone who knew him in person and he didn't want to say much about it, but hinted that he didn't die back then. I never looked into Tupacs death at all myself, so I can't say anything about how possible/ impossible that seems, it's just what I was told by somebody who knew him.
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1 Napoleon-1769 2018-06-18
No one. He’s alive!
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Lol do you actually believe that or are you joking? Bc if you actually believe that my apologies for saying that but if you're joking what do you actually think happened?
1 Apod283271 2018-06-18
That's not the way to treat fellow coinspiracy theorists.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Sorry. I never really understood the conspiracy where he was still alive but now I think I've grasped the idea. Thank you.
1 gehwegok 2018-06-18
I know someone who knew him in person and he didn't want to say much about it, but hinted that he didn't die back then. I never looked into Tupacs death at all myself, so I can't say anything about how possible/ impossible that seems, it's just what I was told by somebody who knew him.
1 differentbydefault 2018-06-18
Denial is one of the stages of grief
1 gehwegok 2018-06-18
Maybe this.
1 Ephinem 2018-06-18
Youre in r/conspiracy
1 biggoopyslusherboy 2018-06-18
Orlando Anderson
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Why do you believe that?
1 ASVP23 2018-06-18
Pac jumped him earlier that night
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
But if it were Anderson the conspirieces would've stopped but they didn't bc practically every big name he associated himself with had a motive.
1 biggoopyslusherboy 2018-06-18
I think it was pretty common knowledge to everyone at the time that Orlando did it. He told people he did it, given the circumstances it completely makes sense. Pac just bit off more than he could chew with the wrong person...
1 magenta_placenta 2018-06-18
It was more likely Arn Anderson. You mess with one of The Four Horsemen and, at the very least, you're going to get DDT'd.
1 SollicitusG 2018-06-18
SPINEBUSTER
1 joe_jaywalker 2018-06-18
Hillary
1 kheroth 2018-06-18
Killary
1 logmoss82 2018-06-18
Really hard to say at this point. There were so many potential motives of different parties. Monetary stakes were very high and that whole label was balls deep in some seriously sketchy shit. Not only did they have a lot of unsavory traditional entertainment figures involved, but you also had corrupt off duty LAPD and even mob ties.
Couple that with the fact he was a young rebellious guy who had proven himself to be pretty reckless and irresponsible. Whats clear to me is that it probably wasnt Anderson. But this has gotten to such a level of mystery legend and speculation, we will likely never know. When you have artists that are able to psychologically impact their fans to the extent that he did, the stakes are higher. You just never know what was real, what was fake and what was just constructed and part of the stage spectacle. Its like speculating about Elvis.
But there does seem to be a concerted effort to mislead and disinform and distort facts, so it's pretty fair to say, when you have an official story that is repeated verbatum, and it doesnt add up, like most conspiracies, you can conclude the official story is likely untrue.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Wow! I agree with you so much throughout most of this. But I'd like to hear out theories and why people believe so. Because as you said it could've been anyone but theres a few big figures that people believe did it and I'm wondering whats their reasoning for that.
1 done_already 2018-06-18
There is a BuzzFeed Episode about this (there is a second part to this episode as well) that explains some theories. I enjoy BuzzFeed Unsolved because they explain cases in an interesting and simple way.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Thank you. I'll make sure to watch that when I have time! :)
1 IndoctrinateMePlease 2018-06-18
Fucking really?
1 ev710 2018-06-18
ohhhhhhh noooo...
1 done_already 2018-06-18
I disagree with almost everything else BuzzFeed stands for but there is something enjoyable about their funny banter and interesting content in their Unsolved episodes. Everybody has their guilty pleasures I guess.
1 zhanx 2018-06-18
Biggie Smalls who else?
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Lol lowkey I think the same. But what are your reasons?
1 zhanx 2018-06-18
i think it was petty to be honest. I was a teenage back then and Rep was a big thing. Tupac was blowing up and calling out smalls and willing the "battle"
So shit be shit. Getting even was the thing to do.
1 pookiki 2018-06-18
Suge for sure.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Why do you think Suge Knight did it?
1 ryanh0542 2018-06-18
He was shot up in the same car as PAC. So, how about no.
1 IndoctrinateMePlease 2018-06-18
Trump and the Russians in order to make Kanye the next big thing so he could eventually come out as a Trump supporter to lend him credibility so he would have cover for murdering Chester.
1 Abe_Vigoda 2018-06-18
https://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2011/04/recently_released_fbi_file_sug.html
1 Apersonofinterest666 2018-06-18
LAPD
1 gaslightlinux 2018-06-18
It's in the FBI Files on Biggie. However, they were only searching for systematic police corruption, not individual police corruption, or the deaths of Tupac or Biggie, so they didn't recommend ant charges. If you're interested it's all there ... just 500 pages.
1 Rambles64 2018-06-18
Are the FBI files on Biggie public?
1 gaslightlinux 2018-06-18
https://vault.fbi.gov/Christopher%20%28Biggie%20Smalls%29%20Wallace%20
1 Vigte 2018-06-18
No one.
The ol' dead body double and surprise kidnapping "fake death" - he's with his fugitive aunt.
1 akiiler 2018-06-18
If I have to be honest I am betting he is still alive. I mean.... His bank account was emptied besides the money for his remaining legal issues. Idk, and the whole "makaveli" thing.
1 Rambles64 2018-06-18
That Makaveli shit was weird AF
1 Caz6000 2018-06-18
I believe it's known among his close associates that he's still alive. Eminem and Kendrick Lamar have both mentioned going to Cuba to get away from fame. The photo supposedly from the morgue which is taken from a music video and doesn't show his new neck tattoos.
1 StefanYellowCurry 2018-06-18
The Illuminati.
1 -_Spook_- 2018-06-18
Y'all need to listen to what he said himself..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxOVeJ8UoWI
The attack was real. But his death was faked. Talking about who was really involved in his disappearance is not allowed on this sub..
1 pookiki 2018-06-18
Why is talking about the terrorist group not allowed?
1 -_Spook_- 2018-06-18
imho talking about there prior misdeeds brings there shills/bots what have you into the threads themselves no matter how benign the subject matter is.
Used via Keyword search..
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Wow that was a long piece of writing but definitely worth it to read! Thanks sm bud
1 -_Spook_- 2018-06-18
Quite the rabbit hole. Glad you enjoyed it.
1 mw8912a 2018-06-18
Holy fucking shit
1 ryanh0542 2018-06-18
The Notorious B.I.G Duh
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Why
1 TupacsFather 2018-06-18
This question has plagued me for many years.
1 Fancy451 2018-06-18
Suge Knight.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Why
1 Count_Verdunkeln 2018-06-18
It's Suge
1 yetiwizard 2018-06-18
Tupac is obama
1 Rambles64 2018-06-18
Tupac is Trump
1 4brkfast 2018-06-18
So goes the story, from what I remember anyway, don't quote me on this as I haven't studied this case. Just some stuff I remember from somebody who said they did(was on The Higherside Chats way back in 14 I think).
Tupac was shot on the night of Mike Tyson's fight in Vegas. Forgive the spelling here if it's wrong, speaking frankly I don't care if I do spell it wrong cause this guy is probably a murderer, Sug Night owned a club right across the street from a hospital.
The way it turned out, the streets were packed with traffic because it was fight night. So when Tupac was shot, they were very close to 'Sug nights' club and by proxy a hospital as well. 'Sug night' decided he was going to drive across town to a different hospital despite the massive traffic jams. Tupac apparently bled out.
1 Pandas_UNITE 2018-06-18
He was alive and coherent after he was shot. Once he got in that ambulance...it was a different story. Some people shot him, others finished the job. He made A LOT of enemies, his lyrics beyond the his top 40 hits were extremely damning to the elite. How many times did he mention Illuminati? Take a look at his upbringing, affiliated with the Black Panthers and the underground, he knew his history, and thats enough to get you killed.
1 Bob_LaPoubelle 2018-06-18
Some other hood rat. Does anyone really care?
Gangbangers gonna go bang.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Don't disrespect Pac like that
1 Bob_LaPoubelle 2018-06-18
What's worthy of respect about him? He was just some MTV rapper.
1 Bk02151 2018-06-18
CIA or some government agency, it's a fact.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
How so?
1 Luke4_5thru8KJV 2018-06-18
Maybe he's still alive?
http://mileswmathis.com/elvis.pdf
1 Tassnomass 2018-06-18
https://vault.fbi.gov/Tupac%20Shakur%20/Tupac%20Shakur%20Part%201%20of%201/view
1 LetsSmashStacks 2018-06-18
Orlando. This guy knows what's up:
https://genius.com/discussions/282069-Twitter-user-talks-about-90s-ny-goons-in-hip-hop-involves-tupac-biggie-jay-z-50-cent-and-more
1 Bk02151 2018-06-18
Same like they killed Martin Luther King,Malcolm X, and every other revolutionary or someone who stood against globalization
1 will_hga 2018-06-18
https://www.google.com/amp/abc7chicago.com/amp/entertainment/tupac-murder-police-close-to-making-arrest-report-says/3711167/
1 Jason4hees 2018-06-18
If Tupac is alive then yes indeed the shooting was real and he barely survived. He would've turned states evidence to avoid jail time for the Baby Lane beating. In doing so he would help take down Death Row which did happen very quickly. As a huge fan of Pac I always hold out hope he's still alive but if he is you will never here from him again.
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Lol lowkey I think the same. But what are your reasons?
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Why do you believe that?
1 Apod283271 2018-06-18
That's not the way to treat fellow coinspiracy theorists.
1 gehwegok 2018-06-18
I know someone who knew him in person and he didn't want to say much about it, but hinted that he didn't die back then. I never looked into Tupacs death at all myself, so I can't say anything about how possible/ impossible that seems, it's just what I was told by somebody who knew him.
1 Ephinem 2018-06-18
Youre in r/conspiracy
1 FarukhMalik 2018-06-18
Why
1 magenta_placenta 2018-06-18
It was more likely Arn Anderson. You mess with one of The Four Horsemen and, at the very least, you're going to get DDT'd.