inb4 - but why would they do dis?

inb4 - but thousands of people would have to be in on it.

powerful people get things done

they also love when they can get 46% of the country to lick their boots while they do it, and blame some other party for decline in the country

one makes me wonder if this media blitz is a reaction to the recent Tuscon child sex camp revelations??

are those revalations as substantial as THIS?

Well you have thousands of kids go missing at the border, apparently there's kid sex camps near the border. If you put two and two together there's a possibility those kids are getting trafficked.

Tuscon child sex camp

All I could find about this was a Buzzfeed article kind of aggressively denying any of this, and then a bunch of links to other articles that say that there's no evidence for this. Do you have any other sources about this? They're really painting this guy as crazy- but idk why you'd go out of your way to make a huge ass article if it's all dumb and crazy or whatever.

Well the interesting thing. For like a week it was all over the page, now it's not. There's still dozens of videos on YouTube. Google isn't helpful.

Absolutely is that a possibility DHS just stated that a good portion of these kids are being brought in by traffickers

what does DHS plan to do about it? seems like keeping family units together would be a decent first step

reading comprehension, not even once

oops i DID read 'bought'

so how do they know which family units are fake and which ones are real?

By asking the kids, I would imagine.

They can talk and probably do when separated from the adult trafficking them.

sooo then they reunite the ones that ARENT being trafficked...right?

That would be what will happen. There are numerous laws and policies around all of this.

It's kind of silly to isolate a single policy.

Just like this separation of kids and adults occurred due to a 1997 law meant to both curb human trafficking and prevent children from being locked up in jail with parents that committed crimes.

Trump created a zero tolerance policy which drove the prosecution of people crossing the border illegally.

The children being detained separately was an unintended consequence of this policy. (You can debate whether it was intended or not, but I'm not because it is completely beside the point and irrelevant.)

Trump signed an EO that kept in place all of the rest of the enforcement, but suggested a new solution needs to be done to detain the families together.

There are separate laws, not being talked about here, that require identifying familial relationships before releasing children to them. This EO does not affect those laws.

There are hundreds of laws, policies, and regulations around immigration.

I'm not going to get into this gutter of arguing assumption and speculation. Unless you know every law and policy around immigration, I would advise you don't either.

You some kind of retard?

Rule #10

Source?

DHS's source?

Removed Rule 13

Alternatively, many of the "parents" are sex traffickers, and the whole point of the operation is to prevent child sex trafficking.

I consider both of these theories equally plausible with the information we have. We know they are doung this unconscionable thing for a reason. There is no good press that could come of this, and yet we have 2 polar opposite presidents involved in it.

Tha6s a completely false narrative made up by the administration to try to gain a smidge of support and you know it.

How did we go from “no sympathy for these illegals they broke the law” to “its or duty to protect the poor immigrant children from evil traffickers!”

Yes i think this is likely and this sub will be all over it. cant believe the tptb in this country (executive and legislative branch) can just do this in our face and not expect the truth seekers to out them

lets find out who is responsible for these actions currently, and who can stop them but refuse to, and ruin their lives.

r/conspiracy is going to break this wide open!

Highly unlikely that this sub will be all over it. It's T_D V2, and since the border shit has come up we've been seeing tons of distractions posts (fucking pizzagate lmfao)

no no no they care about kids they are worried about kids being in danger this isnt something theyd ignore or defend

You forgot the /s.

Saw a post yesterday claiming 6,000 immigrant children have already been lost. Saw another number earlier saying 2,000, but either way that's a lot of missing immigrant children in a relatively short amount of time.

6,000 children have been "lost" over the past howevermany years. Most of this is kids going into foster care, etc. and they run away, stop checking in, all number of reasons nefarious and innocent.

2,000 is the number of children that have been separated from their parents after crossing the border.

It's two different stories.

immigrant children were being trafficked before, too, and not just "accidentally." the only requirement for "family placement" was for two people to sign a piece of paper saying they were a kid's family, and they checked up on less than 5% of the kids. before, rather than staying in DHS or HHS custody, children were placed in the care of "provider orgs" like the Catholic Bishops Assciation, which... yeah. if anything, I wonder if this policy change is as much about rescuing kids from "family" that was trying to traffick them (not that this is the case for all of the children, of course, and it's still inhumane - just possibly less inhumane than the alternative). http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/hhs-handed-child-migrants-to-human-traffickers.html

I think it’s more likely that the policy was put into place to combat trafficking. Everyone is assuming that these “parents” are legit when they could be traffickers. Although the media won’t acknowledge this possibility and it’ll get you downvoted to oblivion outside this sub.

I mean I see where you're coming from but lol. Nah.

Wee lad that comment history

Nice meme kid!

Seriously, look at his comment history. It's blatant.

And now that Trump is gonna go back on it, is he just giving the children back to the traffickers? Maybe that was the plan the entire time?

Is this the new narrative now? Are the left going to attack Trump for giving the kids back now?

Of course they are.

No. The right are going to magically say that they supported it the entire time.

Maybe they needed kids for a mission to mars

Nobody will hear me but the T_D crowd is met with an equally bad anti-T_D crowd. You guys are two sides of the same coin. Each input (new information, new discussion) is met with a reaction against or in support of him.

Please stop this. No, you're not above this criticism because 'your side is right'. You're both murdering objectivity and you need to quit it. Please.

i miss the way things used to be, here. :(

DynCorp is the ones running these child internment facilities.

You know, the company that's been caught supplying young children to Afghan warlords and prostituting children in Bosnia.

answer: yes absolutely

It’s blown my mind I haven’t seen this mentioned more here. Trump, a guy linked to Epstein who had also been named in court cases with Epstein, has been separating children from families. In the process, THOUSANDS of children were “lost”. Dyncorp, a company contracted to run some of these camps have been previously linked to trafficking.

I can only stand so many coincidences before I start to think something is rotten. I personally think these kids are being trafficked.

Families were separated because there was a law they could not be jailed together, put in place by democrats.

Why do democrats hate mexicans so much?

What law was that?

Flores 1997 court decision

They've confirmed that 90% of these kids coming are NOT coming with their parents. They're coming with child-traffickers. Their own parents sold them into sex slavery.

So we can drop the rhetoric of the "caring parents being separated from their children".

No, we're watching the difference between sentimental Western attitudes toward children, and brutal Third World attitudes, where they don't have the same value for life.

The Original Poster is right, though: The child-traffickers are working for pedophile networks INSIDE the United States. Child-trafficking generates more money than narcotics now. It's a huge problem. As our economy tanks, the elites are turning to drugs and child-trafficking to recoup their losses.

What the pedophile-elite are doing now is dishonestly claiming that the traffickers are the children's "families," to have tax payers subsidize the pedophile corridor

It's a brilliant masterpiece of evil.

Getting taxpayers to pay for THEIR pedophilia. All under the guise of "But-It's-For-The-Children!"

Do you have a source for 90% not coming with their parents? I'm curious to read more, thanks!

I read the stat in two different articles yesterday and heard it in a TV interview by the former acting director of ICE, John Sandweg.

I'll see if I can hunt up the articles for you.

Sources get you downvotes

Yep. It's definitely crossed my mind. Not only sex trafficking, but also being used as test subjects for things like mind control & manipulation.

It's also crossed my mind that they're using children to be informants, drug smuggling, and other things that children are more likely to get away with.

If they're being taken from their parents, they probably also won't have any type of communication with other family members, therefore it's easy for the governments to take them away & not have to think twice about any repercussions.

are those revalations as substantial as THIS?

That would be what will happen. There are numerous laws and policies around all of this.

It's kind of silly to isolate a single policy.

Just like this separation of kids and adults occurred due to a 1997 law meant to both curb human trafficking and prevent children from being locked up in jail with parents that committed crimes.

Trump created a zero tolerance policy which drove the prosecution of people crossing the border illegally.

The children being detained separately was an unintended consequence of this policy. (You can debate whether it was intended or not, but I'm not because it is completely beside the point and irrelevant.)

Trump signed an EO that kept in place all of the rest of the enforcement, but suggested a new solution needs to be done to detain the families together.

There are separate laws, not being talked about here, that require identifying familial relationships before releasing children to them. This EO does not affect those laws.

There are hundreds of laws, policies, and regulations around immigration.

I'm not going to get into this gutter of arguing assumption and speculation. Unless you know every law and policy around immigration, I would advise you don't either.