Ancient giant trees (miles high)
1 2018-06-22 by gimmethal00t
Stumbled upon this last night on YouTube. Watched a bunch of videos, and it really made me wonder if there is any legitimacy to it.
Basically, messas are tree trumps, and what we consider a tree is actually just a small bush.
Anyone know anything about this or hear any of it?
67 comments
1 ailhadkcalb 2018-06-22
The Edwards plateau in Central Texas must have been a huge ass tree
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-06-22
Not relating specifically to trees, but I have pondered the idea that everything was once giant compared to the world of today. Cataclysmic event(s) reduced the amount of oxygen in the air resulting in the modern scale. We see all kinds of giant fossils, megalithic structures, tales of giants, giant shark teeth, et cetera.
1 gimmethal00t 2018-06-22
One of the videos I saw basically claimed this.
Really fascinating to think about
1 Drunken_Cat 2018-06-22
There are still giant beings in the océan, I don't think it's related to the O2 levels, also some dinosaures were not giant and the oldest fossiles we have are very tiny, so I guess évolution is just weird. But it's still something to picture giant animals the size of buildings
1 Minted_ 2018-06-22
It's one of the theories about why dinosaurs were so massive, higher levels of oxygen allowed for massive forms of life, multiple extinction events and a few top of the food chain species later and the atmosphere is now 78% Nitrogen.
This article from Smithsonian talks about giant ancient mushrooms that were discovered. The largest living organism in the world is a mushroom in Oregon.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
Recent research is showing that it was actually the other way around, and that CO2 levels were higher than they are now.
1 Minted_ 2018-06-22
Interesting, I wasn't aware of that.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
I think the higher oxygen levels theory was a guess to explain how dinosaurs got so big, but I don't think there's any real evidence for it. Tricky when you're dealing with something so many millions of years ago.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-06-22
Do not forget the megafauna of the Pleistocene epoch.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
The ones wiped out in the Younger-Dryas event? I think the atmosphere was pretty much what we have now, so I suspect that they grew to a size that conditions would permit.
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-06-22
Everything today is a smaller version compared to Megatherium, straight-tusked elephant, Glypotodon, dire wolf, smilodon, moa, Tenerife giant rat, woolly rhinoceros, elephant birds, short-faced bear... and there were even larger creatures before this.
1 CohenDaBarbarian 2018-06-22
with dragonflies also one I can't find on fish
1 skirskir 2018-06-22
Dude dinosaurs are a psyop. There were giants but they were nephilim not dinosaurs. They use the dinosaurs psyop to hide this fact.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
No, dinosaurs are not a psyop. Just because some loon somewhere has said so in a YouTube video doesn't make it so.
1 hit_shit 2018-06-22
Riggghtt thats why over 90% of all discoveries happen on government land and by the same "renowned scientists." Or how every full dino exhibit is a replica. Its all bullshit brotha.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
So you're trying to tell me that out of all the fossil discoveries made all over the world, 90% of them are on government land? Bullshit, utter bullshit.
Not every dinosaur exhibit is a replica. You've obviously not actually been to museums displaying this stuff. Some are replicas because you're talking about extremely rare, fragile and sometimes huge skeletons.
Brother.
1 hit_shit 2018-06-22
BAM
Brother.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
That's Utah. One state in one country. Not very convincing to be honest, rather lacking the 'bam' factor.
How about other major fossil sites? Australia, Argentina, Germany, here in the UK?
1 op-return 2018-06-22
sure why not. what ever fits the narrative.
1 AnonymousHero4life 2018-06-22
Plants breathe co2. It's not even questioned that co2 levels were higher during these periods. Go look it up. Ice cores.. start there.
1 op-return 2018-06-22
lol.
1 irondumbell 2018-06-22
there were giant dragonflies once, and maybe the limiting factor to growth was their respiratory systems since they breathe through their skins
https://www.wired.com/2010/11/huge-dragonflies-oxygen/
1 Vladie 2018-06-22
I want to visit an alien planet full of giant mushrooms and trip balls.
1 WayfarOuthere 2018-06-22
Aborts are the best. The "plant" only produces so much psilicybin per fruit. This the smaller ones are best as you get more per dried weight.
1 ahackercalled4chan 2018-06-22
hit me up when you do. i'll be your trip buddy. i got a 30gal trash bag full of unused glow sticks.
1 sirio2012 2018-06-22
Wonder if they have weed on other planets.
1 op-return 2018-06-22
lol
1 I_Buttchug_Listerine 2018-06-22
Why can't dinos exist?
1 op-return 2018-06-22
That's for high level conspiracy black belts.
1 sirio2012 2018-06-22
Who have not been taught well.
1 op-return 2018-06-22
OK blue belt. That's nice.
1 spacemike218 2018-06-22
It's not just a theory, it's what is accepted by scientists to be true. It's the only explanation for giant insects hundreds millions of years ago like dragon flies the size of hawks, because of how insects take in oxygen their size is limited by the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere
1 Wood_Warden 2018-06-22
Also heard that the Earth was smaller and had a lower gravity. Models of dinosaurs in today's physics have resulted in disastrous results ~ T-Rex's not being turn their head or run without breaking their neck as one example.
Maybe the resulting mass from another planetoid or similar celestial object crashed or merged into Earth?
1 depleteduraniumftw 2018-06-22
Growing earth. Smaller globe has lower gravity.
1 flyPeterfly 2018-06-22
Maybe because the earth was smaller. Less gravity
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-06-22
Interesting point, growing earth does seem like an inevitability given our current understanding of celestial bodies.
1 AnonymousHero4life 2018-06-22
The other theory is that the earth was smaller and that the earth actually expands through it's core when the sun periodically shoots massive amounts of energy into the solar system. At these times of peak energy the core of the earth reacts and matter is created. Which also causes cataclysmic conditions on the surface. Dinosaurs, Noah flood etc. As a result of the earth expanding gravity and surface conditions change which promote smaller organisms.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
Mesas are just geology, no trees ever grew that big.
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-22
Maybe you know why all plateaus in a given area are generally the same height? If they were trees and buried in silt and petrified only up to where they were buried that would explain it. How do modern geologists explain this?
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
They tend to be at the same height because that was the original upthrust level before the erosion started.
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-22
Very difficult to picture is their an animation or something I can view that shows the process and the Collins the physics?
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
What's up, Google down where you are?
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-22
You seemed convinced so I figured you had access to good proofs regarding this process. I guess not.
1 farmersboy70 2018-06-22
Yeah, whatever.
1 TheWrongTap 2018-06-22
You could look at some mountains?
1 frankenham 2018-06-22
The top of plateaus are what used to be that areas normal ground level. Plateaus are usually different kind of rock than the surrounding, for example old volcano spouts etc., and when the land was eroded the plateaus remained.
A lot of today's geography is the result of the Great Flood that drastically changed the planet, the Grand Canyon for example is an old spillway from the it.
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-22
The Grand Canyon is an ancient mine
1 vapingcaterpillar 2018-06-22
Because a fossilised tree doesn't suddenly turn in to a different form of rock.
1 whenipeeithurts 2018-06-22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wFm4rZbNhw
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-22
r/mudfossils
1 pot_the_roast 2018-06-22
https://youtu.be/fFrLkNrATGA Long documentary, interesting one at that, but idk about anything just an alternative perspective it also raises good questions even if you don't believe their explanation
1 thelosttribe 2018-06-22
Too bad most never payed attention in school. They don’t even know how to research!
1 IglooEmoji 2018-06-22
If you go by the FE theory then the true size of the earth is undefined
1 ayemfuct 2018-06-22
Tree stumps are not flat on top unless they are sawed off. So if mesas are tree stumps, who did the sawing?
Animals evolve to larger sizes when food sources will support larger animals. This can be seen in inland grizzly bears and coastal brown bears. Coastal brown bears are a sub species of grizzly and evolved to larger size due to the abundance of calories available from salmon running up river to spawn.
1 murphy212 2018-06-22
Yes. And it can work the other way around too. For example avocados wouldn't exist without giant (extinct) mammals, capable of swallowing (and shitting) its very large seed.
1 ayemfuct 2018-06-22
My point was that a higher percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere was not necessary for large Plants.
More C02 might actually be better for large plants.
Then the large plants would provide ample food for large Herbivores. Large Herbivores provide food for large carnivores.
Still not buying mesas as tree stumps though.
1 gimmethal00t 2018-06-22
I don't believe in this massive tree theory, but I'll play devils advocate.
They are flat because the ancient giant humans cut them down. Thats the explanation I am seeing.
1 ItsWorthReading 2018-06-22
I wanna see those gargantuan tree rings!
1 banana-meltdown 2018-06-22
Look up the Devil's Tower.... Close encounters of the Third Kind plot pretty obsessed with it, as was a CIA remote viewing experiment conducted around the same time... (project stargate)...
1 good_vibes_maad_city 2018-06-22
I love this theory, ancient silicone trees and gem plant life harvested by "annunaki" and we are living in a stripmined planet with a small layer of regrowth.
Some of these mesas spot on look like stumps and that one with the hexagon shaped columns that look like petrified pathways, blows my mind.
My 2 cents
1 rodental 2018-06-22
No.
1 gimmethal00t 2018-06-22
Thanks for your input.
1 rodental 2018-06-22
You're welcome.
1 terminalSiesta 2018-06-22
I came across it like 6 months ago, tried to watch a video on it. I gave up about 15 mn in, real science would completely debunk it so they very obviously avoided it at every turn.
Cool idea, but the only thing to it is that mesas happen to resemble a gigantic tree stump that was cut with a gigantic chain saw. That's it, really.
1 gimmethal00t 2018-06-22
Kinda my conclusion as well. Seems interesting but they start referring to the Bible and how our leaders are evil lords I lose it
1 of_mendez 2018-06-22
I believe this 100%, also that These trees were smart, that is why there are so many references in movies and shows about trees with faces and giant trees at the center of the forest like in both "avatar" and "avatar the last airbender"
1 shillaryclintone 2018-06-22
just heard about rocks did we?
1 GeneralApollyon 2018-06-22
Maybe you know why all plateaus in a given area are generally the same height? If they were trees and buried in silt and petrified only up to where they were buried that would explain it. How do modern geologists explain this?