As someone who has avoided 'smart' technology like the plague (despite working in a technologically advanced industry), I'm very interested in this discussion.
Since my first mobile, I've purchased inexpensive phones that can call, text and sometimes take a shitty photo but unfortunately my 10 year old LG has finally died, and I'm now in a position where an entry level smartphone may be my only option.
It's unfortunately become quite difficult to avoid the smartphone. I try to use mine as a tool rather than a crutch, but still find I instinctively pull it out of my pocket to mindlessly check it more often than I'd care to admit. Even worse, many jobs require you to have a smartphone for near ubiquitous access via email.
I'm not sure how to handle the microphone, that seems quite difficult. The most secure phone I've found so far is this one.
Though I'd like to share an anecdote: a friend of my brother was minister of justice and his phone was something my brother had never seen before. It also had a dongle that encrypted everything. So the governments of out world protect themselves but would like to keep us out of that loop.
I love Oppo's idea of the sliding camera. Rather than putting the front camera in a notch like the iPhone X, they have both the front and back cameras hidden and they just slide up when needed.
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I'll lose my shit if this is true. I mean, plenty of other things have occurred that just make me lose my shit daily that im just like -__- anymore (example; it is illegal to collect and use rainwater, therefore leading to you HAVING to not only pay for water but also consume the water that has been properly fitted with the chemicals those above us deem necessary for our regular consumption..like fluoride that calcifies our pineal gland which is crucial to our higher level of consciousness, free thought & creativity.)
its not like having a smart phone is akin to shooting up heroin. If you use your phone as a tool youll be fine. i have a note 8, and i use it for art and communication. i dont even have a single game installed on it and never had the temptation to download one. i think you'll be fine too
you probably have an addictive personality in general. not saying that to downplay what you're saying at all, but I might be the exact opposite of you as far as that goes. I don't drink or smoke anything and never had the desire to. On that same token I can forget my phone at home or work and not notice till I'm about to go to sleep and set my alarms. I can absolutely see how someone can have trouble with that though. I see it everyday actually, so the risk is def out there.
Also, one last thing, good on you for breaking the drug habit man. Stay vigilant
I'm from Alaska.. Everyone I know turned to heroin addicts over night.. I was the only one who actually started down that path from a car crash that destroyed my back and was actually prescribed these pills. I truly believe HAARP is screwing with peoples brain waves.. Everyone I know who stayed back home after hs turned to an addict. I was finally able to break the curse when I moved to AZ.. There is a power plant outside my front door now.. I feel it's energy constantly and haven't slept right in months. I finally cut out the bs and sugar and tons of meat from my diet and started eating healthy and taking care of my body and I feel better than I ever have in my adult life.. But I swear I'm constantly being attacked by different pitches of ringing in my head and it's not just tinnitus.
Yes it's the Guardian (oh boooo, attack the source) but this article from 2014 does a fair job at breaking down how Candy Crush Saga affects the human brain in a manner very similar to hard drugs by manipulating dopamine production and instilling a false sense of accomplishment.
The games are just challenging enough to make you feel good when you win, causing you to want to play more.
The game limits your lives to 5, ensuring you're never satiated.
The game is played with bright, colorful pieces of candy meant to occupy the amygdala.
Side note: love the selected topic as it's something we should all have some experience with.
Personally, I've noticed my attention span drastically decrease when I downloaded social media onto my smartphone. Deleted it two weeks ago and I'm still struggling with the constant need to look at a screen every 5 minutes. Flip phones are few and far between but they are available and I'm thinking of getting one.
Let's not forget that when kids are raised with these they are significantly under-socialized and it encourages an instant gratification mindset. Colorado is the first one to implement a minimum age for smartphones
I don't believe that ban actually went into effect in CO.. that article you posted is discussing a proposed ban, and a quick search only brings up similar articles (about the proposal). Seems kind of a weird idea to me.. they're talking about fines for companies who sell phones that parents intend to give to children under 13 (wtf).. how about parents just do their damn jobs? Money would be well spent educating the public on what too much screen time does to young brains.
Steve and Bill were smart enough to make billions, and lived in the epicenter of the very industry they helped create. Bill Gates funds billions of dollars worth of global vaccinations efforts, have you ever heard of him?
As much as I want to agree with you too many people think that they're the exception or just plain ignore the data to settle with a standard PSA outreach program. These kids not only have access to them 24/7 but are encouraged to use them by schools as an education tool (in place of real conversation) and by parents as a babysitter/placating device. Instead of it being used as a tool, it has replaced all aspects of our lives. And now we have a swath of maladjusted, smartphone-dependent zombies walking around who can't comprehend self-sufficiency. Imo, if something is such an objective harm to society, it should be regulated.
I have a flip phone. I feel out of place during social functions. Especially when the smart phone 'lul" takes place. I feel like just getting up and walking out. What the fuck is the point of spending time with people when they would rather play some lame game, read a bullshit article, or dick around on social media instead of interacting with the people they are presently with? I've never hated society more now than I ever have in my life. It sucks. Speaking up about it only makes me sound like a pretentious douche bag too.
I'm going to sound like a total millennial right now, but switch to a Juul. I haven't had a real cig in a month and a half and I feel/smell better. Since most places don't like vaping inside, it's still an excuse to escape a room, too. I see it as a bridge to quitting... Removing some of the chemicals and the ritual of lighting up.
I've tried ecigs that are like cigs ehookahs and expensive vapes. I dislike vaping a great deal. The only time I've liked it was when vaping CBD and I have had many disposable vapes for herb and wax for bud or a mix of bud or dabs and CBD dabs. With any type of substance I prefer to just smoke it. Even with dabs I found myself just putting the wax in $1 foil pipes and firing it constantly. I prefer smoking plant material in cig or rolled form. I just can't do the vapes. I have an herb vape that didn't arrive in time for my trip to Denver so I'll probably just sell it. Many folks have recommended juul but it seems like there's more nicotine in them and I already smoke a ton. I can see myself juuling and smoking and upping my intake. Back when I smoked a lot of pot I mixed tobacco in and was smoking more than I am now.
Eh yeah I feel you. I definitely felt the same about vaping. I do smoke way less now (measured by 1 Juul pod=~1 pack). If you ever decide to try down the road of quitting but can't quite yet, it's a viable option.
People think it's pretentious - and I don't mind people having issues with being around groups of people but when someone whips out their phone and just starts typing away while I'm talking and nodding - I guess I just have to live with the fact that I'm pretentious and think it's disrespectful af lol.
I think its disrespectful also. I also find myself doing it! Its messed up but somewhere along the line the priority section of the brain if that exists put text convos higher than most other things. I have to fight the urge to respond or look at the phone, but thats only when I am conscious of the problem. Its like, unless I really concentrate on not doing it, I am going to do it. And I am not even a person that gets texts from people constantly like a lot of people, and the addiction is strong in me.
Good on Colorado! My 6 year old nephew either wants to use my phone to play games (I don’t have any) or play the PS4 constantly. They don’t know how to make their own fun. All they know is screen time= fun. I blame their schools for giving the kids iPads while in kindergarten. Why the fuck does a kid need an iPad in kindergarten?
I can't recommend this video enough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc_Jq42Og7Q&t=1049s - Jaron Lanier does an amazing job describing the differences between traditional feedback/reward loops in video games vs the straight up manipulation/behavioural modification used in social media. It really opened my eyes...
One of my jobs is Teaching (18-24 year olds, not in America, also im not american but i guess this is a universal problem)
The problem we have with smart devices is that they are not used smartly. My Current phone has a 2.4(?)ghz Multicore Processor, 4GB ram, 128GB of Flash memory and a freaking 1080p display. This is freaking Future Magic!
But in terms of use what do i do with it? I order food and other things, Order a taxi or book flights and hotels, i talk with my friends and workers, i pay my bills and i go shopping on it. It makes my life much easier and better in many ways.
However, that didnt translate well to the younger generations. What my colleagues (also from other Institutes) and i see is that we are having to babysit a "failed" generation in many cases. We have the Mantra of responsibility to yourself. You or your parents paid to be in this class, we will give our darndest to teach you and if you request it we even give you additional classes free of charge! However, if you choose not to learn, or if you choose to play with your phone during the entire classtime...then that is your personal Choice, the consequences of which you are carrying.
That usually worked well, however the last 4 years or so it got gradually worse. Especially the Boys (Man they are not) in our classes just play PUBG and dota like games for the Entire duration, if they show up at all. Obviously they failed the final Exams (that where actually today). But this is a real problem. At first we tried to collect the phones. But this procedure took nearly 10 minutes out of every day. Many students claiming they dont have one, or bringing a second (sometimes even a Third!) "Burner" phone so they can have their bliss. Some Students started crying and there where violent incidents when trying to collect phones (with another teacher). We gave up on collecting the phones in the end, we had for a short time Jammers in place but some students Addicts threatened to Sue (we call it paradise week!) so they are now only used during major Exams.
The games that they play are for the most part Predatory Freemium Crap. Dont get me wrong im a gamer myself (since 1988) but this is different, this aint normal gaming. The students are jeopardizing their future. In recent years girls have been affected aswell, marketing geniuses have figured out how to "hook" even them.
So instead of a slow process of learning something over the course of 3-4 years they have the option to have instant gratification and success every few minutes (and whenever they want if they pay for Ingame BS currency).
Its hard to fight this, as a teacher you cant compete with that. Students usually feel gratified when they get something right, that makes them into good students. They like to learn more, we give pretty decent rewards for good students. But if there is a mediocre students (who has the potential of becoming a great student!) they will seldomly have those positive experiences. So they get those from Gaming. Slowly but surely they are being trained that Gaming=Happy, learning=Unhappy.
I try to include phones in my classes but that doesnt often work well (since they just choose as usual to game). If its the Usual suspects i would not care, there where always students who sucked or where not interested in learning even before smartphones. But now "thanks" to Games that are Designed to make you Addicted the number of "failed" students has gone up dramatically. When they are released into the wild they are obviously ill prepared and i get the occasional text from a student years later saying "Sorry teacher, i now regret not having learned more". There are less and less "success stories".
Smartphones are a great thing. But if i had a kid, i would NEVER let them have one. The Games market is way too predatory, peoples futures are being ruined because of it. Children and young adults dont have the life experience to realize when they are being Exploited. The problem is that before you had to go home to game, now you can play at any time. Games have also changed massively, they are free. Teasing you with things you dont have. Putting artificial barriers up in forms of Grinds, Failures or waiting times. They make the Process of giving money to them into a reward in itself. Thats some high level Manipulation, and it needs to be regulated.
I think there's a connection between the metals they're spraying on us, and being magnetized to our phones. The advent of the smart grid has made receivers out of many tech products, and human bodies.
Glad to know I'm not the only one noticing this change. I have noticed the number of really good students getting smaller and smaller every semester to the point that I'm lucky if the top 1 or 2 students in a class of ~40 are at least pretty good. Five to six years ago, I could always rely on the top 4-8 students being excellent. The average student is now riding the line between passing and failing all the time if graded on an honest scale. Most instructors/professors end up just lowering their standards to keep their grade distribution from sucking, and this just makes the problem progressively worse and worse.
I see a lot more students just completely give up and not even try to explain why. Something is wrong.
I'm not convinced it's all just gaming, although I definitely see how that is one of the negative effects. I think people have relied on this technology so much at fundamental stages in their mental development that many never learned how to think and come up with ideas for themselves. Even worse, they stopped learning information entirely since they can just look up whatever they need at any given moment. Never mind the fact that your brain can work more efficiently when the information it needs is already firmly rooted in memory. People are starving and destroying the power of their unconscious mind by not feeding it enough information to process and organize and discover connections. This is the foundation of common sense. Fewer and fewer people have the common sense to use technology constructively because they don't even know where to begin reading up on anything outside of their limited scope of stunted understanding, nor would they even want to try if they could. Their attention span for critical thinking is approaching zero. Social media, gaming ,sports, entertainment, and news are always at your fingertips. Why actually think about anything? They just look up a YouTube video later explaining how to answer tge homework questions. They might retain only 10% of the needed skills the next day. If they can't find an online tutorial, they don't know how to read their textbooks so they just skip it.
You are completely right in everything you said. Games are currently the most destructive influence. But you are right, whenever they do work with me in class they look it up on their phones. Their memory is Awful. Which leads to less and less positive experience in class. So i didnt mention it before because (and i realize how silly it is) that if they at least look something up on their phones...they are participating.
This is a dangerous thing. People are made to believe that they dont need to know things anymore, they can look up the answers themselves. Personally i want my students to be creative minds. I want them to excel me. That simply doesnt happen anymore.
And you are right, we had to massively decrease our Standards over the years. Half of my class failed today, an exam that is about 2 semesters below what they should know, and they failed....on monday i will get into deep shit for this by the Administration. Their job is to give me shit for it, i dont blame them. They know whats what, but they have to do their job aswell. So the solution will be to further decrease the standards. Happend every year so far since a couple of years.
I think the problem is that the general trend isnt reversible and is just what future humans will be like. Few Coorperations, the ones who control the entertainment and information will have unprecedented power over vast amounts of People. Not via an Iron Fist. No simply because people believe everything they say, because there wont be other ways to know things anymore.
Makes me wonder if there will ever be a counter culture movement on a semi-massive scale, bordering on religiosity with rejection of social media, smart phones, or time-wasters
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I have genuine conflicts with my device. First, I'll say that I would be so terribly ignorant without the years of gleaned information through the portal of a smartphone. Before I even hit online, a read stories and imagined in awe what it would be like to 'surf the net'. I found myself looking for breaking science, choosing Microbes as the overall favorite, following the catalog of the soil food web pioneered by Elaine Ingham.
I found use with the built in blogging tool on MySpace, a feature brandished along the top right of your profile. It was here I began writing..well, these sort of news articles. I mocked the formats and prose I was used to reading, but pulled a bunch of content together that interrelated.
I took a sniff at Facebook, maybe 2010 I guess - and hated it. It seemed like that platform was trying to minimize the input parameters of what I'm trying to say. Doesn't matter what, by then I was used to some elbow room, as Twitter failed the smell test with 140 characters. I mean, I'm running full speed on blogs by now, and platforms like Twitter and Facebook we're cramping my style.
But, of course I had a Facebook account and some of my friends had crossed over, so I ghost-friended them and stuck ardently to MS. Then MS bugged out, and I'm woke enough to draw parallels with 9/11, stinks to hell.
Where do I do? You got it, FB for 3 or 4 years, bitching about it to high heaven at least once a week, fuming at the limitations, the 30 soft-ban, and in the end, straight up manipulation of my friends news feeds by not showing any posts from me. That made me rage.
Now, FB is US military, it's messenger app listens, and still the only way for me to contact some of my favorite friends is through FB.
Meanwhile, I study science and academic papers, sourced discoveries and the like, and think of ways to work them into my novel WIP, all the while learning.
I say this, because I wish more people were inclined to read a little bit about some stuff and get something for it. If I could tell your students the power of utilizing the power of information at your fingertips...
Maybe I'm just a geek or eccentric, but I am beginning a project that I'm calling my 'thesis', which is Restoration of a Derelict Property Through Microbial Arrest. It's a self-appointed achievement that capstones my eight years of self-study. The internet is so valuable as a mobile tool, it's unfathomable to limit it.
The flip side is health. My life is in an upheaval, and right now I only have the phone. It's hard enough to keep a full charge on it, my less the laptop I charge up once a week.
Constant use. And I mean constant. I am also a guitarist and singer, and I'm always looking up new songs - when I'm not watching Rick and Morty to death.
But my left hand can't hold cell phone anymore. It hurts, pretty bad. I know why, yet I can't stop.
I'm addicted to my handset, and it's killing me for it.
Cars were fine until towns and cities (in the USA especially) started being built around the assumption that every individual would have one. Now walking simply isn't feasible in most parts of the country, which greatly limits the freedom of those too poor to afford a car, and amounts to an enormous taxation on everyone else. Cars should be a nice addition, not a requirement for survival.
It's a very complicated problem to solve. The whole economy more and more relies on the Internet. The Internet is here to stay. So are the devices that enable convenient services 24/7. Can we blame a gaming company for finding tricks to have you play more often their games ? Their business model translates to : you play more = we make more money. Can we blame social media, or any website for implementing tricks for the same reason ? Probably not.
I think the answer comes from regulations, education, and self-control/discipline.
Regulations from authorities, such as ban smartphones in public schools for anyone below the age of 15. If we can successfully ban smoking and drugs at school for most, we surely can ban smartphones. That may take another 15 years before these guys wake up though.
Education by authorities, parents at home, teachers. Teach kids how to use their smartphones the right way, parents who limit their use at home. Have authorities educate parents on the potential dangers of smartphones for the kids. IDK how effective that would be. It's still a step forward.
Self control. If I couldn't apply any self control, I would be spending my whole day playing movies on the TV, playing video games, eating chips and drinking cola. I would also drink alcohol and experiment new drugs all the time. I did all this (except for the drugs) for some time in the past, not very long, and I stopped with enough self control, and self discipline. It's also self discipline that allows me to fast for a month each year, cook at home with fresh ingredients VS buy pre-made meals at the supermarket or eat a big mac. IDK if self discipline/self control are things that can be taught. Something to look into maybe.
Sadly, given the addiction power of the smartphones, and its widespread, i'm afraid they are going to do lots of damage on people before anything is done.
I know of parents who sit their (not even 1 yo) child in front of the TV at night, or hand over a smartphone to look at, while they are busy doing something else. They may not be aware of the damage, however, they have the same Internet that I have, so they have no excuse not to know.
Whenever I see kids or adults hooked on these types of addiction based grinding games which hardly requires any skill, memory or learning, I'm often reminded of that Star Trek TNG episode "The Game". Don't say you weren't warned!
One of the main dangers of these "smart devices" is that we have become so accustomed to having them do our "thinking" and "remembering" for us that, deprived of access to their "magic" without them, we become helpless.
They have changed the way with think, the way our memories work, and the way we process information. This goes beyond the individual level, affecting how society functions as a whole - government, industry, academia, etc... all are bound up in the web.
Like"magic glasses" the tech allow us to "see" and "learn" things we could never have seen before -- but at a cost: Lose the glasses, and we're rendered blind and helpless.
The network of technology is extremely fragile, and vulnerable to failures that can come from multiple sources, man-made (accidental or intentional) or natural (such as a knock-out solar flare).
We've painted ourselves into one hell of a corner, I think.
The industrial revolution was amazing for the world and we built our lives around it. If we somehow lost the ability to mass produce, we would have been SOL with how we structured society around it's benefits. Technology always has that effect.
But no, networks are a lot more stable than you think. Network anlysis suggests it'd be almost imppssinle for something like the internef to realistically go down, baring nuclear fallout.
I think one of the biggest effects of smart phones on society is going to be manifested on The children of this first generation of smart technology. as parent myself, I've caught myself on numerous occasions telling my children "Hold On a second while I finish writing this email", when they come to me for something. I've caught myself getting annoyed at my own kids when they "interrupt" me while I'm immersed in my phone.
I've also seen this happen with my wife, and saw the absolute look of dejection on their faces. We are essentially inferring to them that our phones are more important to us then they are.
This not only has negative effects physcologically on them, it's also driving them into the same addictive loop that we are in. If the phone is more important to Mommy and Daddy then I am, I must have one myself.
By emotionally neglecting our kids, and not giving them are undivided attention, they will surely try and find that attention in other things, including drugs, alcohol, and other destructive behaviors in search of devotion.
Even after I became aware of how my addiction to smart phones was negatively impacting them, I still would still catch myself ignoring them, or even worse isolating myself in a separate room, so I could use my smart phone unmolested.
In order to be completely and totally present around our kids now, my wife and I purchased a landline, and now forward all incoming calls from our cell phones to the home phone, and we leave our phones in the car. Well we at least leave them in the car until the kids are asleep, at which point we usually go and get them to catch up on all the things we missed for several hours, completely ignoring each other.
I feel the effects on children are going to very detrimental in the long term.
Well at the beginning I loved it, I loved the thought of a smarter phone. Something being more useful to me. Then, I realized that everything I'm doing is being documented somehow and that this is the realization of the book 1984. Every phone has a camera. Then when Snowden shared his stories on how guys in the NSA exchange pictures taken illegally from webcams on women, wow I really understood. This is no BS. They intend to control EVERYTHING. And record every fucking fart you make.
So I quit Facebook, although I have to use Google for work and such. But all through VPN, it is seriously a grim future. It makes me sad, and to some extent a bit depressed. We have allowed a few to control the many, and even though we outnumber them - they probably have a plan for a social revolution. This isn't going to end well in my opinion, sadly.
Smart "tech" and AI are enslavement tools, we love the easiness of it, but we sacrifice everything else. The generations growing up now are documenting willingly each moment of their lives.
Well said on all your points. I don't see it ending well either. It indeed causes sadness and, for me, fear and intense concern for our not-so-distant future.
It can be used as a (permanent) crutch and tool of degeneracy, or it can supply the wisdom of the ages. Try to suck all the knowledge you can out of it and move on.
People are all increasingly glued to their smart phones and consumed by social media, but why? Panorama reporter Hilary Andersson tracks down tech insiders who reveal how social-media companies have deliberately developed habit-forming technology to get people hooked. A former Facebook manager tells the programme: 'Their goal is to addict you and then sell your time' and the creator of the 'like' button warns of the dangers of social-media addiction. Panorama investigates the science behind the lure of technology, and shows how behavioural science has been used to keep people endlessly checking their phones.
It's weird, I've never really glommed on to phone for anything more than using it as a phone or for a traveling tool. I'm a desktop/laptop guy still, and my only addiction is Reddit. But I find Reddit to be mentally stimulating in may ways. It's keeping me sharp, and inspiring creativity. I don't bother with FB or Twitter or anything else.
In addition to all of these great points, I would like to point out the increasing level of “troll” like behaviors in real life interactions. Behind a keyboard, it is easy to lash out with a snarky reply, hop right into a ridiculous argument, or just flat out be mean to another human being. This is translating into real life behaviors. No longer are the days of respectful dialogues, common courtesies and basic human interactions. People have lost basic human connections and it’s showing more and more each day. Gone are the days of being respectful to your neighbors, now you are met with a fuck you attitudes. Gone are the days of striking up a casual conversation while waiting in line. Gone are the days of playing a board game with the family.
The more people disconnect from each other because they are always “connected” the further into the abyss we go.
The more people disconnect from each other because they are always “connected” the further into the abyss we go.
Very well said and so true. As someone who enjoys simple connections with complete strangers on the streets with a quick; Good morning, or genuinely compliment a total stranger for no reason, it deeply saddens me to see humanity disconnecting with one another.
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. When you stop interacting, you start believing all the bad things you see and hear on social media and the news. You start thinking that people really are bad/scary/hateful because that’s what you’re fed. But when you actually talk to people, you realize you have more in common than you don’t. There are far more good ones than bad. That human connection is what keeps us all grounded in reality. Otherwise, as we see today, everyone becomes the enemy. It’s isolating us, whether that’s by design or just a byproduct.
As someone who enjoys simple connections with complete strangers on the streets with a quick; Good morning, or genuinely compliment a total stranger for no reason
You are not alone. We need to make a social media app that would help people like you and I connect.
I enjoy those simple connections with strangers. You made mention of genuine compliments...I feel the same ways that you do. The rampant disconnection taking place is troubling and saddening. I can't have one conversation with one of my very best friends now because he will absolutely be preoccupied with his smart phone, and he has a friend who really needs him now like never before. It really hit me when I was talking about my late mother with whom I was very close; One of his responses after looking up from his phone proved that he didn't realize that I'd been talking about my mother (what was said absolutely didn't apply to my mother at all...that was the dead giveaway). Man, it hurts when you get second billing to a smart phone, especially with an old (and supposedly close) friend.
I find those things are still possible but I also note that youth are not only taught to separate sex from gender but sexual attraction from romantic attraction. Yes sex does not always involve romance but this type of education just leads to less love in the world.
This is a recent post. This is an excellent overview of 'smart meters' portion of the 'smart grid'.Here is 180 scientists and doctors appealing to EU re: safety of 5g. 5th generation Whistleblower. Great speech on EMF's. Lockheed Martin & other MIC engineers re: vertical flight, reverse gravity, etc. Zapped documentary. Even birds are effected. Chemtrails fill is with metals, making receivers. Propoganda.
Protect your home. LED's are harmful too. Part of the plan
Here's an email from a leading expert in EMF's and the smart grid:
The roll out of 5G wireless service is 'a massive health experiment,' public health expert warns as cell companies install 800,000 towers across the US
The latest generation of wireless service - 5G - is being rolled out across select cities in the US Networks will transmit data 100 times faster using shorter radiation waves The new network will require 800,000 new 'small cell' towers Some research has suggested that cell phone radiation may be carcinogenic The new millimeter waves used in 5G have hardly been studied and introducing them constitutes an 'experiment,' warns a public health professor
Natalie Rahhal, Daily Mail, May 29, 2018
Wireless carriers are constructing cell towers a stronger, faster 5G network, but some experts warn that the updated service's health effects are unknown and potentially dangerous.
Today, there are 154,000 cell towers in the US, according to wireless communication association, CTIA. By 2026, it estimates another 800,000 will be needed to support 5G.
The network update will bring more Americans into closer proximity with milimeter waves, very short-wave radiation.
Research on cell phone radiation has yielded mixed findings, but some studies have linked older wireless service generations to cancers of the heart and reproductive organs, and 5G's health effects have hardly been studied.
Wireless providers have begun installing 800,000 'small cell' towers to support the roll out of the new 5G cellular network, but some public health experts warn they may endanger humans.
The new network is slated to support 100 billion devices, connecting to the internet at anywhere between 10 and 100 times the speeds that information travels through the 4G network.
In order to facilitate these speeds, the new network communicates through millimeter waves (MMWs) rather than microwaves, as previous generations have.
The microwave networks are nearly saturated, hence the switch to the virtually untouched, lower frequency MMWs for 5G.
But smaller waves cannot travel as far, or through as many types of materials.
This means that there will need to be far more individual 'small cell towers' closer together - some have suggested they will be on every street corner in the US.
The 5G technology is too new to have been thoroughly tested and studied by many parties outside of cell service providers.
According to Dr Joel Moskowitz, a public health professor at the University of California, Berkeley, MMWs could pose a very real danger.
'The deployment of 5G, or fifth generation cellular technology, constitutes a massive experiment on the health of all species,' he told Daily Mail Online.
Because MMWs are weaker than microwaves, they are predominantly absorbed by the skin, meaning their distribution is quite focused there,
'Since skin contains capillaries and nerve endings, MMW bio-effects may be transmitted through molecular mechanisms by the skin or through the nervous system,' Dr Moskowitz writes on his blog.
He also told Daily Mail Online that he's concerned that '5G will use high-band frequencies, or millimeter waves, that may affect the eyes, the testes, the skin, the peripheral nervous system, and sweat glands.'
'Millimeter waves can also make some pathogens resistant to antibiotics,' he added.
Dr Moskowitz is not alone in apprehensions.
The International Society of Doctors for the Environment, its subsidiaries in 27 countries, and more than 200 doctors and scientists are all calling for a stop to be put to the roll out of 5G, 'due to concern that 5G radio frequency radiation will have adverse health effects,' Dr Moskowitz says.
So far, their warnings have gone unheeded.
Verizon began rolling out their 5G small cell towers in 11 cities 2017, and AT&T started installing the new generation of service in Waco and Dallas, Texas, as well as in Atlanta, Georgia this year.
Did you ever wonder about the specific shape/form factor of these devices ?
They are a rectangular mini-version of the 2001: A Space Odyssee monolith, both of them being a direct connection to a higher power.
And that connection is now fully integrated with your physical body.
Does anyone see his/her smartphone in your dreams ? I bet you do not and that might also be an intentional part of the dark magic behind these devices.
I have a theory that technology was given to us by aliens in order to eventually enslave us kind of like The Matrix. The idea is to separate us from everything that we're suppose to be connected to. Nature, spirituality, each other and the cosmos. Then we become so unhappy, we get addicted to all sorts of things. Technology being the easiest and safest thing, we think. It makes our lives better and more convenient. And look how easy it is to communicate with all my friends. Except it's not real communication. It's words on a screen. We need human interaction. We need be to out in nature. We need to be able to look up at the sky at night and see the incredible amount of stars in the milky way to be reminded of what we are instead of barely seeing anything because of light pollution. And through those 3 things, we will be able to connect to the spirituality of life itself. The divine spark inside of all life. It is any wonder our country has all the problems it does with drugs, suicide and anti-depressants? Our bodies are trying to tell us something. This isn't the way humans are suppose to live. Our natural reward systems have been hijacked and rewired.
This all started with the Neolithic Revolution. 7 (I think?) different spots all around the world over the course of thousands of years, all moved from hunter/gatherers to agricultural societies, independent of one another and then spread all over the globe. These groups say they got this knowledge and technology from beings from the sky, usually referred to as dragons. A model for this can even be seen in the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible. Adam and Eve get kicked out of the Garden of Eden (nature) and cursed to work the ground while Eve is told to be subservient to Adam which creates the patriarchy. That was the first step to separate us from nature and put us at odds with it, not caring if we destroy it. This also took us from abundance thinking being hunter/gatherers where everything was out in nature, you just had to go get it and you only take what you need since there was always more. To famine thinking with agriculture because you only had so many animals and crops each harvest. That induces a sort of paranoia and guardianship over what is yours because you need it to survive. In nature, everything belongs to everyone and there will always be more somewhere. This shift in thinking and lifestyle lead us all onto the path to where we are now. When farming is how you depend on your survival, you're going to try and create things that make that survival more likely and make it easier. There was no need for new technology in hunter/gatherers aside from, you could argue, weapons to hunt with and to possibly fight off another tribe but they got along just fine with what they had and there was no major competition to drive more creation of technology.
Despite the significant technological advance, the Neolithic revolution did not lead immediately to a rapid growth of population. Its benefits appear to have been offset by various adverse effects, mostly diseases and warfare.
The introduction of agriculture has not necessarily led to unequivocal progress. The nutritional standards of the growing Neolithic populations were inferior to that of hunter-gatherers. Several ethnological and archaeological studies conclude that the transition to cereal-based diets caused a reduction in life expectancy and stature, an increment in infant mortality and infectious diseases, the development of chronic, inflammatory or degenerative diseases (such as obesity, type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular diseases) and multiple nutritional deficiencies, including vitamin deficiencies, iron deficiency anemia and mineral disorders affecting bones (such as osteoporosis and rickets) and teeth. Average height went down from 5'10" (178 cm) for men and 5'6" (168 cm) for women to 5'5" (165 cm) and 5'1" (155 cm), respectively, and it took until the twentieth century for average human height to come back to the pre-Neolithic Revolution levels.
The traditional view is that agricultural food production supported a denser population, which in turn supported larger sedentary communities, the accumulation of goods and tools, and specialization in diverse forms of new labor. The development of larger societies led to the development of different means of decision making and to governmental organization. Food surpluses made possible the development of a social elite who were not otherwise engaged in agriculture, industry or commerce, but dominated their communities by other means and monopolized decision-making. Jared Diamond (in The World Until Yesterday) identifies the availability of milk and cereal grains as permitting mothers to raise both an older (e.g. 3 or 4 year old) and a younger child concurrently. The result is that a population can increase more rapidly. Diamond points out that agriculture brought about deep social divisions and encouraged inequality between the sexes.
So with agriculture, you bring about the need for large scale governments, leaders, social elites, slaves. The people now fight over resources, especially because of population increases. With those increases, comes the need for more control. Today, there's only a handful of companies who control the vast majority of our food that comes from agriculture. Looking at this Wikipedia entry, you can see the various problems and devastating effects that large scale agriculture is having on our planet. It's helping drive climate change and climate change will undoubtedly cause famines due to droughts and other extreme weather patterns around the world. There's no way this will be sustainable unless some sort of major shift happens in at least the way we get our energy.
The environmental impact of agriculture is the effect that different farming practices have on the ecosystems around them, and how those effects can be traced back to those practices. The environmental impact of agriculture varies based on the wide variety of agricultural practices employed around the world. Ultimately, the environmental impact depends on the production practices of the system used by farmers. The connection between emissions into the environment and the farming system is indirect, as it also depends on other climate variables such as rainfall and temperature.
There are two types of indicators of environmental impact: "means-based", which is based on the farmer's production methods, and "effect-based", which is the impact that farming methods have on the farming system or on emissions to the environment. An example of a means-based indicator would be the quality of groundwater, that is effected by the amount of nitrogen applied to the soil. An indicator reflecting the loss of nitrate to groundwater would be effect-based. The means-based evaluation looks at farmers' practices of agriculture, and the effect-based evaluation considers the actual effects of the agricultural system. For example, means-based analysis might look at pesticides and fertilization methods that farmers are using, and effect-based analysis would consider how much CO2 is being emitted or what the Nitrogen content of the soil is.
The environmental impact of agriculture involves a variety of factors from the soil, to water, the air, animal and soil variety, people, plants, and the food itself. Some of the environmental issues that are related to agriculture are climate change, deforestation, genetic engineering, irrigation problems, pollutants, soil degradation, and waste.
Interesting to think that this one shift in our way of living has lead us down a very specific road and the knowledge from which this shift is accredited to, has basically the same story across the world, that it's from other worldly beings. Only through this shift has the control and enslavement of the entire human race been possible. The driving need to constantly improve technology, dig up oil, deforest the planet, emit greenhouse gases, use up a large portion of our water supply, etc
Lol, stopped reading at 'patriarchy'. A plant based diet is far more healthier than eating meat. If we didnt learn on how to cultivate and grow crops and depended solely on hunting for food, we, along with the animals would have become extint long back.
Diamond points out that agriculture brought about deep social divisions and encouraged inequality between the sexes.
You're not very good at reading are you? Maybe you shouldn't have stopped. Hunter/gatherer societies were much more egalitarian, that's just a fact. I would have just say, get the fuck over it.
If we didnt learn on how to cultivate and grow crops and depended solely on hunting for food, we, along with the animals would have become extint long back.
Uhhh....
The nutritional standards of the growing Neolithic populations were inferior to that of hunter-gatherers. Several ethnological and archaeological studies conclude that the transition to cereal-based diets caused a reduction in life expectancy and stature, an increment in infant mortality and infectious diseases, the development of chronic, inflammatory or degenerative diseases (such as obesity, type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular diseases) and multiple nutritional deficiencies, including vitamin deficiencies, iron deficiency anemia and mineral disorders affecting bones (such as osteoporosis and rickets) and teeth. Average height went down from 5'10" (178 cm) for men and 5'6" (168 cm) for women to 5'5" (165 cm) and 5'1" (155 cm), respectively, and it took until the twentieth century for average human height to come back to the pre-Neolithic Revolution levels.
Before the rise of agriculture our plant consumption was much more diverse. Agriculture led to the severely limited food options that persist to this day. We heavily process our foods to give us the illusion of diversity, but in reality most people don't eat much beyond the same 3 animals or ~15 plants throughout their lifetime.
Good write up. Adam and Eve were tempted with wisdom and knowledge, and the ability to become as God.
Mankind is going through the same process right now, with iPhones/Apple leading the charge, and Apple obviously has a fruit with a single bite out of it, referencing Eden.
All of this leading to the Singularity / true virtual reality, not just goggles but a full emerscion. Literally the Matrix.
Yes. We are doing our own will instead of God's. We think we each are our own God and we can do as we wish and nothing bad will happen. We think we can manipulate human genetics and create the "perfect" human, Designer babies are supposedly the future. Then we want to explore the cosmos and possibly seed other planets and create and manipulate other lifeforms. We think we're responsible enough to cause direct changes in the DNA of our race and change other planets when we can't even take care of ourselves?
In my opinion, we are ALL God together, as one. I hurt you, I hurt myself. We are just pieces of the whole, experiencing other pieces of the whole but it is all just an illusion, we are the same.
I can very honestly say that I have to actively and consciously make an effort not to constantly look at my phone. I used to read ebooks on it but now make a point of getting physical books so I have less excuses to look at it.
Phones are energy vampires and that energy is attention.
In my own limited experience: Wi-Fi in very close proximity is very disruptive to cognitive functions.
I did an unvoluntary test with a 1 watt wireless antenna once, to connect to another router in the house. The antenna was about 1 m from my desk and I was exposed to the wifi waves for a couple of hours a day. After a while I couldn't concentrate or even think straight. The most obvious symptoms were brain fog, headaches, dizzyness and sleepiness. There also appeared a high pitch ringing in my ears.
Needless to say that I turn off Wi-Fi always on the router and phone and only use cable to connect them and recommend everyone to do the same.
I didnt say I dont believe, I jsut think the new 5G networks will fuck us harder than just one wifi network, especially here in europe where 10 different companies all put their own network.
That’s whats sad though is they’re literally killing the Internet with advertising. Ever notice how a lot of YouTube stuff you used to like doesn’t show up anymore? It’s all the stupid algorithm crap they have that buries good quality content for whatever stupid plastic entertainment they want to show you for that month.
I had that realization about this time last year... and simultaneously realized that I hadn't read a proper book in several years, despite always being a bookworm when I was a kid (I was not very popular).
Now it's been a year and I've consumed probably 30+ books in that time, some fiction, some non fiction and it's really changed my world.
I realized that I had spent most of the previous decade in a fog, not really thinking that hard about anything. Now that I've broken it, I see it everywhere around me... especially in places like this where we are supposed to be digging for the truth, all too often we just let it get served to us... no thinking required, you just have to know the narrative.
THIS. I've struggled to be entertained by my smartphone. I go to politics reddit, sometimes a couple other reddits, but primarily this one for entertainment. Otherwise there are times when I realize there's nothing interesting to do on my phone. I could study, but I hate doing that on a small screen and I'm on my phone to relax
I just wanted to chime in here and say we don’t need to obsess ourselves with scripture and other fanciful apocalyptic “ Mark of the beast“ shit. It’s already here. There’s no such thing as lining people up like cattle and shooting microchips in to their skin. That would cost way too much friction amongst the human masses so the next best step would be probably a smart phone. Not to mention the biggest kicker is that YOU pay for it.
Sure smartphones are addictive, but is this really a conspiracy? Sex is addictive too. Is that a conspiracy? Its not the phone that is addictive per se, but the simulated social interaction and validation that is provided through it. Companies just manipulate and serve the inherent desires that already exist in humans. Not much of a conspiracy. Just serving the desires of the public and filling their cravings for validation and interaction because now the have the technology to do it.
No one purposefully designed sex to be addictive, so how could sex be a conspiracy? Some people do exploit the natural desire for sex to harm people so they can personally profit, yes, and that would be closer to what we're discussing here.
I've said it before and I'll continue to: Memes are fucking stupid. The best and smartest memes are far-side cartoons. Everything of value takes more time, words, and thought than a meme can provide.
Literally destroying social society at the very least.
I am pretty bad with the constant messing with/checking/looking and all that comes with it. Every pause in conversation every awkward moment I see myself doing it. I catch myself and put it back and do it again less than 5 minutes later. So many triggers cause me to do it.
I am conscious of it and actively trying to do something about it. I am 35 and for a big part of my life this wasn't a thing, neither was social media. I am very aware of all the problem. I am very aware of technology as a whole and what it is doing to society, and I STILL do it.
I cant imagine what its like for 20 somethings. They dont know life without it. They most likely will not be convinced there is a problem. Even worse we got babies with tablets in front of their faces hypnotized by the digital wonder. Dopamine addicts being produced all over. How do they even stand a chance?
26, people my age are right on the verge. We grew up mostly without cell phones, playing outside, interacting with eachother, but that all changed right as we were leaving high school. We've been smack in the middle of both sides of this and if a revolution ever happens, we will be the ones leading the charge.. For all the shit we get I think we'll be the ones to finally do something.
Yeah I graduated 2010 like I said my age puts me in direct conflict. 26-29 ur Olds right now are struggling. It's so hard to date.. I meet a girl even 2 years younger than me and I can't get them off their phones/social media. I don't want to date a wannabe Instagram model that needs constant attention. I keep having so many failed relationships just because these young woman have a constant, incessant need for attention and to be entertained.. And I'm OK with doing nothing and just enjoying time together.. But than they get bored and want to be on their phones, running around being a hoe.. It's rough being on the precipice of this divide and very few people understand this plight.
I was also raised in Alaska and wasn't allowed to have a cell til I was 16 and it was a flip phone. I didn't have a smart phone til I was 19 so maybe that's why saved me.
we are not going backwards to begin with, only forwards, faster and more than what we deal with now. so these people become addicted to it, so these people become dumbed down by it, incapable of saying no for some reason like sugar and bacon, so this so that... so what?
people who cant adapt will fade in history, but people who can will just come forward and take their place and flourish as always. where is the problem?
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1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Good to see a good contributor have the winning vote. I have heaps to say, I'll wait for the trolls to assemble.
1 Zap_Powerz 2018-07-06
You should provide some bait if you want trolls.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
I'm on mobile. Could you assist by posting a link to my smart grid post please?
1 Zap_Powerz 2018-07-06
Couldnt find it.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Look on my profile under posts.
1 Zap_Powerz 2018-07-06
https://old.reddit.com/r/Maine/comments/6wx92i/good_ole_grateful_dead_music_i_portland/
that one?
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Obviously not. Nvm, thought you were trying to help. I'll do it later.
1 Zap_Powerz 2018-07-06
ok
1 JediNWOmindTRICL 2018-07-06
The Mere Presence of Your Smartphone Reduces Brain Power, Study Shows
1 Mecanatron 2018-07-06
As someone who has avoided 'smart' technology like the plague (despite working in a technologically advanced industry), I'm very interested in this discussion.
Since my first mobile, I've purchased inexpensive phones that can call, text and sometimes take a shitty photo but unfortunately my 10 year old LG has finally died, and I'm now in a position where an entry level smartphone may be my only option.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2018-07-06
It's unfortunately become quite difficult to avoid the smartphone. I try to use mine as a tool rather than a crutch, but still find I instinctively pull it out of my pocket to mindlessly check it more often than I'd care to admit. Even worse, many jobs require you to have a smartphone for near ubiquitous access via email.
1 Mecanatron 2018-07-06
Luckily my 'hands on' work is done with no networking.
I look after my admin stuff at home on a laptop.
I may have to look into getting the old landline hooked up again.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2018-07-06
I love the quip that landlines are diminishing in an effort to reduce the number of exits from the matrix. Always good for a quick chuckle.
1 PaBowbow 2018-07-06
Apt
1 philandy 2018-07-06
I might just go price DSL with landline now thanks for the idea.
1 Ok_Increase 2018-07-06
I use a VPN and tape over the cameras.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2018-07-06
Good call. I need the tape, and a way to obfuscate the microphone when not making calls.
1 Ok_Increase 2018-07-06
I'm not sure how to handle the microphone, that seems quite difficult. The most secure phone I've found so far is this one.
Though I'd like to share an anecdote: a friend of my brother was minister of justice and his phone was something my brother had never seen before. It also had a dongle that encrypted everything. So the governments of out world protect themselves but would like to keep us out of that loop.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2018-07-06
It's ok for us to do it but you're just not responsible enough yet.
1 dj10show 2018-07-06
Privacy for me, but not for thee
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
vpn is pointless.
1 RancorsRage 2018-07-06
how so?
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Internet security is an illusion.
1 RancorsRage 2018-07-06
So if VPNs don't work why are so many companies still using them to access their internal networks from remote locations successfully?
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
r/technology
1 RancorsRage 2018-07-06
thank you for the link. Haven't been to that sub yet
1 panamaRed59 2018-07-06
I love Oppo's idea of the sliding camera. Rather than putting the front camera in a notch like the iPhone X, they have both the front and back cameras hidden and they just slide up when needed.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
It is true. Also, despite serious health risks, lead paint was eliminated in 90's. I think it's because they know it blocks emf's.
1 badbiosvictim1 2018-07-06
Lead attenuates ionizing radiation. Lead does not attenuate radiofrequency. Materials attenuating radiofrequency are in /r/electromagnetics' Shielding: RF wikis.
1 xLUGALxKIxENx 2018-07-06
..does it really?!
I'll lose my shit if this is true. I mean, plenty of other things have occurred that just make me lose my shit daily that im just like -__- anymore (example; it is illegal to collect and use rainwater, therefore leading to you HAVING to not only pay for water but also consume the water that has been properly fitted with the chemicals those above us deem necessary for our regular consumption..like fluoride that calcifies our pineal gland which is crucial to our higher level of consciousness, free thought & creativity.)
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Right.
1 seeking101 2018-07-06
its not like having a smart phone is akin to shooting up heroin. If you use your phone as a tool youll be fine. i have a note 8, and i use it for art and communication. i dont even have a single game installed on it and never had the temptation to download one. i think you'll be fine too
1 Renegade2592 2018-07-06
As a recovered heroin addict.. It was alot easier to put down the heroin than my Note 8 I'm typing on right now.
1 seeking101 2018-07-06
you probably have an addictive personality in general. not saying that to downplay what you're saying at all, but I might be the exact opposite of you as far as that goes. I don't drink or smoke anything and never had the desire to. On that same token I can forget my phone at home or work and not notice till I'm about to go to sleep and set my alarms. I can absolutely see how someone can have trouble with that though. I see it everyday actually, so the risk is def out there.
Also, one last thing, good on you for breaking the drug habit man. Stay vigilant
1 Renegade2592 2018-07-06
I'm from Alaska.. Everyone I know turned to heroin addicts over night.. I was the only one who actually started down that path from a car crash that destroyed my back and was actually prescribed these pills. I truly believe HAARP is screwing with peoples brain waves.. Everyone I know who stayed back home after hs turned to an addict. I was finally able to break the curse when I moved to AZ.. There is a power plant outside my front door now.. I feel it's energy constantly and haven't slept right in months. I finally cut out the bs and sugar and tons of meat from my diet and started eating healthy and taking care of my body and I feel better than I ever have in my adult life.. But I swear I'm constantly being attacked by different pitches of ringing in my head and it's not just tinnitus.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2018-07-06
Yes it's the Guardian (oh boooo, attack the source) but this article from 2014 does a fair job at breaking down how Candy Crush Saga affects the human brain in a manner very similar to hard drugs by manipulating dopamine production and instilling a false sense of accomplishment.
The games are just challenging enough to make you feel good when you win, causing you to want to play more.
The game limits your lives to 5, ensuring you're never satiated.
The game is played with bright, colorful pieces of candy meant to occupy the amygdala.
Side note: love the selected topic as it's something we should all have some experience with.
1 BasedBaller 2018-07-06
Personally, I've noticed my attention span drastically decrease when I downloaded social media onto my smartphone. Deleted it two weeks ago and I'm still struggling with the constant need to look at a screen every 5 minutes. Flip phones are few and far between but they are available and I'm thinking of getting one.
Let's not forget that when kids are raised with these they are significantly under-socialized and it encourages an instant gratification mindset. Colorado is the first one to implement a minimum age for smartphones
1 DragonflyGrrl 2018-07-06
I don't believe that ban actually went into effect in CO.. that article you posted is discussing a proposed ban, and a quick search only brings up similar articles (about the proposal). Seems kind of a weird idea to me.. they're talking about fines for companies who sell phones that parents intend to give to children under 13 (wtf).. how about parents just do their damn jobs? Money would be well spent educating the public on what too much screen time does to young brains.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
We could do it as a public service.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Why Steve and Bill's kids dont get tech devices. Probably no vaxx either. Smh
1 SomethingInThatVein 2018-07-06
Steve and Bill were smart enough to make billions, and lived in the epicenter of the very industry they helped create. Bill Gates funds billions of dollars worth of global vaccinations efforts, have you ever heard of him?
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
My point is, they disallowed their children from using technology.
1 jje5002 2018-07-06
yeah because bill is a eugenicist
1 IcyPaleontologist 2018-07-06
Didnt they have a patent for some kind of screen hypnotic technology?
1 jje5002 2018-07-06
yeah i think so .. something about how they can use it to manipulate the nervous system
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
This is what's up now. If you research 5g, it's sinister af. Check it out in my comment.
1 humanitystillsucks 2018-07-06
just glad to see this information *is* spreading...
sometimes i feel like no one cares they are being slowly murdered... depriving their children of grandchildren.
and then i see some of you who are at least a little aware!
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
And spreading the word.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
bingo.
1 BasedBaller 2018-07-06
As much as I want to agree with you too many people think that they're the exception or just plain ignore the data to settle with a standard PSA outreach program. These kids not only have access to them 24/7 but are encouraged to use them by schools as an education tool (in place of real conversation) and by parents as a babysitter/placating device. Instead of it being used as a tool, it has replaced all aspects of our lives. And now we have a swath of maladjusted, smartphone-dependent zombies walking around who can't comprehend self-sufficiency. Imo, if something is such an objective harm to society, it should be regulated.
1 stan-the-man-syklone 2018-07-06
Do you think smartphone addiction is any different from being addicted to computers? Computers / internet offer the same thing.
1 Jimmycrackerson 2018-07-06
Good point! and with Wi-fi connected Smart T.V.s.
I dont buy cable/direct tv because I hate advertisements and mainstream media.
Sooo we have the kids using a remote control to navigate through you-tube and netflix.
It's a double edged sword.
1 Interior_Castle 2018-07-06
“smart”phones make it easier to get one’s fix anywhere, at any time. to extend the analogy
1 aliensintheoutfield 2018-07-06
I have a flip phone. I feel out of place during social functions. Especially when the smart phone 'lul" takes place. I feel like just getting up and walking out. What the fuck is the point of spending time with people when they would rather play some lame game, read a bullshit article, or dick around on social media instead of interacting with the people they are presently with? I've never hated society more now than I ever have in my life. It sucks. Speaking up about it only makes me sound like a pretentious douche bag too.
1 QuilliamShakespeare 2018-07-06
I like that it's acceptable now to take a few minutes of a break from a social gathering.
1 Disrupturous 2018-07-06
I simply smoke. I'm addicted to it but also addicted to taking a quick break alone or possibly with another smoker.
1 Nosferatutu_ 2018-07-06
I'm going to sound like a total millennial right now, but switch to a Juul. I haven't had a real cig in a month and a half and I feel/smell better. Since most places don't like vaping inside, it's still an excuse to escape a room, too. I see it as a bridge to quitting... Removing some of the chemicals and the ritual of lighting up.
1 Disrupturous 2018-07-06
I've tried ecigs that are like cigs ehookahs and expensive vapes. I dislike vaping a great deal. The only time I've liked it was when vaping CBD and I have had many disposable vapes for herb and wax for bud or a mix of bud or dabs and CBD dabs. With any type of substance I prefer to just smoke it. Even with dabs I found myself just putting the wax in $1 foil pipes and firing it constantly. I prefer smoking plant material in cig or rolled form. I just can't do the vapes. I have an herb vape that didn't arrive in time for my trip to Denver so I'll probably just sell it. Many folks have recommended juul but it seems like there's more nicotine in them and I already smoke a ton. I can see myself juuling and smoking and upping my intake. Back when I smoked a lot of pot I mixed tobacco in and was smoking more than I am now.
1 Nosferatutu_ 2018-07-06
Eh yeah I feel you. I definitely felt the same about vaping. I do smoke way less now (measured by 1 Juul pod=~1 pack). If you ever decide to try down the road of quitting but can't quite yet, it's a viable option.
1 Juggerknob 2018-07-06
What is it like to vape CBD?
1 Disrupturous 2018-07-06
Calming but it takes many hits.
1 SnippDK 2018-07-06
Fuck Juul never ever buy that shit product
1 gboonvper 2018-07-06
People think it's pretentious - and I don't mind people having issues with being around groups of people but when someone whips out their phone and just starts typing away while I'm talking and nodding - I guess I just have to live with the fact that I'm pretentious and think it's disrespectful af lol.
1 AgreeableAtmosphere 2018-07-06
If that's the price I'll buy two.
1 turtlew0rk 2018-07-06
I think its disrespectful also. I also find myself doing it! Its messed up but somewhere along the line the priority section of the brain if that exists put text convos higher than most other things. I have to fight the urge to respond or look at the phone, but thats only when I am conscious of the problem. Its like, unless I really concentrate on not doing it, I am going to do it. And I am not even a person that gets texts from people constantly like a lot of people, and the addiction is strong in me.
1 Goshdudette 2018-07-06
I have a suggestion. You should “scroll” on your flip phone as if it was a touch screen.
1 bosox82 2018-07-06
Good on Colorado! My 6 year old nephew either wants to use my phone to play games (I don’t have any) or play the PS4 constantly. They don’t know how to make their own fun. All they know is screen time= fun. I blame their schools for giving the kids iPads while in kindergarten. Why the fuck does a kid need an iPad in kindergarten?
1 Everythings 2018-07-06
Conspiracy theorists applauding state restrictions. What the
1 dnkfkr 2018-07-06
I can't recommend this video enough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc_Jq42Og7Q&t=1049s - Jaron Lanier does an amazing job describing the differences between traditional feedback/reward loops in video games vs the straight up manipulation/behavioural modification used in social media. It really opened my eyes...
1 Inesophet 2018-07-06
One of my jobs is Teaching (18-24 year olds, not in America, also im not american but i guess this is a universal problem)
The problem we have with smart devices is that they are not used smartly. My Current phone has a 2.4(?)ghz Multicore Processor, 4GB ram, 128GB of Flash memory and a freaking 1080p display. This is freaking Future Magic!
But in terms of use what do i do with it? I order food and other things, Order a taxi or book flights and hotels, i talk with my friends and workers, i pay my bills and i go shopping on it. It makes my life much easier and better in many ways.
However, that didnt translate well to the younger generations. What my colleagues (also from other Institutes) and i see is that we are having to babysit a "failed" generation in many cases. We have the Mantra of responsibility to yourself. You or your parents paid to be in this class, we will give our darndest to teach you and if you request it we even give you additional classes free of charge! However, if you choose not to learn, or if you choose to play with your phone during the entire classtime...then that is your personal Choice, the consequences of which you are carrying.
That usually worked well, however the last 4 years or so it got gradually worse. Especially the Boys (Man they are not) in our classes just play PUBG and dota like games for the Entire duration, if they show up at all. Obviously they failed the final Exams (that where actually today). But this is a real problem. At first we tried to collect the phones. But this procedure took nearly 10 minutes out of every day. Many students claiming they dont have one, or bringing a second (sometimes even a Third!) "Burner" phone so they can have their bliss. Some Students started crying and there where violent incidents when trying to collect phones (with another teacher). We gave up on collecting the phones in the end, we had for a short time Jammers in place but some
studentsAddicts threatened to Sue (we call it paradise week!) so they are now only used during major Exams.The games that they play are for the most part Predatory Freemium Crap. Dont get me wrong im a gamer myself (since 1988) but this is different, this aint normal gaming. The students are jeopardizing their future. In recent years girls have been affected aswell, marketing geniuses have figured out how to "hook" even them.
So instead of a slow process of learning something over the course of 3-4 years they have the option to have instant gratification and success every few minutes (and whenever they want if they pay for Ingame BS currency).
Its hard to fight this, as a teacher you cant compete with that. Students usually feel gratified when they get something right, that makes them into good students. They like to learn more, we give pretty decent rewards for good students. But if there is a mediocre students (who has the potential of becoming a great student!) they will seldomly have those positive experiences. So they get those from Gaming. Slowly but surely they are being trained that Gaming=Happy, learning=Unhappy.
I try to include phones in my classes but that doesnt often work well (since they just choose as usual to game). If its the Usual suspects i would not care, there where always students who sucked or where not interested in learning even before smartphones. But now "thanks" to Games that are Designed to make you Addicted the number of "failed" students has gone up dramatically. When they are released into the wild they are obviously ill prepared and i get the occasional text from a student years later saying "Sorry teacher, i now regret not having learned more". There are less and less "success stories".
Smartphones are a great thing. But if i had a kid, i would NEVER let them have one. The Games market is way too predatory, peoples futures are being ruined because of it. Children and young adults dont have the life experience to realize when they are being Exploited. The problem is that before you had to go home to game, now you can play at any time. Games have also changed massively, they are free. Teasing you with things you dont have. Putting artificial barriers up in forms of Grinds, Failures or waiting times. They make the Process of giving money to them into a reward in itself. Thats some high level Manipulation, and it needs to be regulated.
1 Entropick 2018-07-06
Holy shit that's depressing.
1 Zap_Powerz 2018-07-06
Every day on Reddit I read something that reduces my hope for the future. You provided that for me today.
1 RogueSolid 2018-07-06
Ah, so your standing in for ObviousMan. We need you over in r/Mirobiology, pls.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
I think there's a connection between the metals they're spraying on us, and being magnetized to our phones. The advent of the smart grid has made receivers out of many tech products, and human bodies.
1 whacko_jacko 2018-07-06
Glad to know I'm not the only one noticing this change. I have noticed the number of really good students getting smaller and smaller every semester to the point that I'm lucky if the top 1 or 2 students in a class of ~40 are at least pretty good. Five to six years ago, I could always rely on the top 4-8 students being excellent. The average student is now riding the line between passing and failing all the time if graded on an honest scale. Most instructors/professors end up just lowering their standards to keep their grade distribution from sucking, and this just makes the problem progressively worse and worse.
I see a lot more students just completely give up and not even try to explain why. Something is wrong.
I'm not convinced it's all just gaming, although I definitely see how that is one of the negative effects. I think people have relied on this technology so much at fundamental stages in their mental development that many never learned how to think and come up with ideas for themselves. Even worse, they stopped learning information entirely since they can just look up whatever they need at any given moment. Never mind the fact that your brain can work more efficiently when the information it needs is already firmly rooted in memory. People are starving and destroying the power of their unconscious mind by not feeding it enough information to process and organize and discover connections. This is the foundation of common sense. Fewer and fewer people have the common sense to use technology constructively because they don't even know where to begin reading up on anything outside of their limited scope of stunted understanding, nor would they even want to try if they could. Their attention span for critical thinking is approaching zero. Social media, gaming ,sports, entertainment, and news are always at your fingertips. Why actually think about anything? They just look up a YouTube video later explaining how to answer tge homework questions. They might retain only 10% of the needed skills the next day. If they can't find an online tutorial, they don't know how to read their textbooks so they just skip it.
1 Inesophet 2018-07-06
Preaching to the Choir.
You are completely right in everything you said. Games are currently the most destructive influence. But you are right, whenever they do work with me in class they look it up on their phones. Their memory is Awful. Which leads to less and less positive experience in class. So i didnt mention it before because (and i realize how silly it is) that if they at least look something up on their phones...they are participating.
This is a dangerous thing. People are made to believe that they dont need to know things anymore, they can look up the answers themselves. Personally i want my students to be creative minds. I want them to excel me. That simply doesnt happen anymore.
And you are right, we had to massively decrease our Standards over the years. Half of my class failed today, an exam that is about 2 semesters below what they should know, and they failed....on monday i will get into deep shit for this by the Administration. Their job is to give me shit for it, i dont blame them. They know whats what, but they have to do their job aswell. So the solution will be to further decrease the standards. Happend every year so far since a couple of years.
I think the problem is that the general trend isnt reversible and is just what future humans will be like. Few Coorperations, the ones who control the entertainment and information will have unprecedented power over vast amounts of People. Not via an Iron Fist. No simply because people believe everything they say, because there wont be other ways to know things anymore.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Deliberatedumbingdown.com
1 Novusod 2018-07-06
That book was written before smart phones were invented. Truth is they have been deliberately dumbing us down for 100 years now.
1 PaBowbow 2018-07-06
Makes me wonder if there will ever be a counter culture movement on a semi-massive scale, bordering on religiosity with rejection of social media, smart phones, or time-wasters
1 Inesophet 2018-07-06
I can ask some colleagues who work with younger people. Mine generally grew out of their rebellious phase for the most part.
1 lisiate 2018-07-06
The minimalists are half way there already.
1 badbiosvictim1 2018-07-06
Papers on radiofrequency altering the brain of fetuses:
https://np.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/6jh4st/wiki_reproductive_birth_defects/
Papers on radiofrequency inducing cognitive impairments, early onset Alzheimer's and Alzheimer's:
[WIKI] Cognitive Impairment
https://np.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/3z68cy/wiki_cognitive_impairment/
[WIKI] Alzheimer's: Early Onset Alzheimer's
https://np.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/5edksn/wiki_alzheimers_early_onset_alzheimers/
[WIKI] Alzheimer's Disease
https://np.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/3zl5yh/wiki_alzheimers_disease/
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Lions mane https://blog.kettleandfire.com/lions-mane-mushroom/ supports healthy brain function. Magnesium (topically) vit D, supplement. Don't eat the meat, drink the water, or do anything they endorse. Shunglite/orgonite and other EMF negation elements are available. Opt out of smart meters.
1 Britt121 2018-07-06
Hell yes, I take Lions mane- that stuff is the bomb. I do eat meat though (all pasture raised)- I tend to follow the principles of the Weston Price diet.
1 Inesophet 2018-07-06
how about no.
1 soccerflo 2018-07-06
this was a fabulously written report. do you teach in an asian country, by chance?
1 RogueSolid 2018-07-06
I have genuine conflicts with my device. First, I'll say that I would be so terribly ignorant without the years of gleaned information through the portal of a smartphone. Before I even hit online, a read stories and imagined in awe what it would be like to 'surf the net'. I found myself looking for breaking science, choosing Microbes as the overall favorite, following the catalog of the soil food web pioneered by Elaine Ingham. I found use with the built in blogging tool on MySpace, a feature brandished along the top right of your profile. It was here I began writing..well, these sort of news articles. I mocked the formats and prose I was used to reading, but pulled a bunch of content together that interrelated.
I took a sniff at Facebook, maybe 2010 I guess - and hated it. It seemed like that platform was trying to minimize the input parameters of what I'm trying to say. Doesn't matter what, by then I was used to some elbow room, as Twitter failed the smell test with 140 characters. I mean, I'm running full speed on blogs by now, and platforms like Twitter and Facebook we're cramping my style.
But, of course I had a Facebook account and some of my friends had crossed over, so I ghost-friended them and stuck ardently to MS. Then MS bugged out, and I'm woke enough to draw parallels with 9/11, stinks to hell. Where do I do? You got it, FB for 3 or 4 years, bitching about it to high heaven at least once a week, fuming at the limitations, the 30 soft-ban, and in the end, straight up manipulation of my friends news feeds by not showing any posts from me. That made me rage.
Now, FB is US military, it's messenger app listens, and still the only way for me to contact some of my favorite friends is through FB.
Meanwhile, I study science and academic papers, sourced discoveries and the like, and think of ways to work them into my novel WIP, all the while learning. I say this, because I wish more people were inclined to read a little bit about some stuff and get something for it. If I could tell your students the power of utilizing the power of information at your fingertips...
Maybe I'm just a geek or eccentric, but I am beginning a project that I'm calling my 'thesis', which is Restoration of a Derelict Property Through Microbial Arrest. It's a self-appointed achievement that capstones my eight years of self-study. The internet is so valuable as a mobile tool, it's unfathomable to limit it.
The flip side is health. My life is in an upheaval, and right now I only have the phone. It's hard enough to keep a full charge on it, my less the laptop I charge up once a week.
Constant use. And I mean constant. I am also a guitarist and singer, and I'm always looking up new songs - when I'm not watching Rick and Morty to death. But my left hand can't hold cell phone anymore. It hurts, pretty bad. I know why, yet I can't stop.
I'm addicted to my handset, and it's killing me for it.
1 expletivdeleted 2018-07-06
agree absolutely. though i feel a bit like one of my great, great grandparents in the '20's saying, "I'd NEVER let one of MY kids have their own car."
1 Inesophet 2018-07-06
kids shouldnt drive cars
1 AnAccountOfMyOwn 2018-07-06
Cars were fine until towns and cities (in the USA especially) started being built around the assumption that every individual would have one. Now walking simply isn't feasible in most parts of the country, which greatly limits the freedom of those too poor to afford a car, and amounts to an enormous taxation on everyone else. Cars should be a nice addition, not a requirement for survival.
1 calliflower 2018-07-06
It's a very complicated problem to solve. The whole economy more and more relies on the Internet. The Internet is here to stay. So are the devices that enable convenient services 24/7. Can we blame a gaming company for finding tricks to have you play more often their games ? Their business model translates to : you play more = we make more money. Can we blame social media, or any website for implementing tricks for the same reason ? Probably not.
I think the answer comes from regulations, education, and self-control/discipline.
Regulations from authorities, such as ban smartphones in public schools for anyone below the age of 15. If we can successfully ban smoking and drugs at school for most, we surely can ban smartphones. That may take another 15 years before these guys wake up though.
Education by authorities, parents at home, teachers. Teach kids how to use their smartphones the right way, parents who limit their use at home. Have authorities educate parents on the potential dangers of smartphones for the kids. IDK how effective that would be. It's still a step forward.
Self control. If I couldn't apply any self control, I would be spending my whole day playing movies on the TV, playing video games, eating chips and drinking cola. I would also drink alcohol and experiment new drugs all the time. I did all this (except for the drugs) for some time in the past, not very long, and I stopped with enough self control, and self discipline. It's also self discipline that allows me to fast for a month each year, cook at home with fresh ingredients VS buy pre-made meals at the supermarket or eat a big mac. IDK if self discipline/self control are things that can be taught. Something to look into maybe.
Sadly, given the addiction power of the smartphones, and its widespread, i'm afraid they are going to do lots of damage on people before anything is done.
I know of parents who sit their (not even 1 yo) child in front of the TV at night, or hand over a smartphone to look at, while they are busy doing something else. They may not be aware of the damage, however, they have the same Internet that I have, so they have no excuse not to know.
1 DanKnites 2018-07-06
Whenever I see kids or adults hooked on these types of addiction based grinding games which hardly requires any skill, memory or learning, I'm often reminded of that Star Trek TNG episode "The Game". Don't say you weren't warned!
1 Zap_Powerz 2018-07-06
It is time to smash our smart phones?
1 Apolitical_Corrector 2018-07-06
One of the main dangers of these "smart devices" is that we have become so accustomed to having them do our "thinking" and "remembering" for us that, deprived of access to their "magic" without them, we become helpless.
They have changed the way with think, the way our memories work, and the way we process information. This goes beyond the individual level, affecting how society functions as a whole - government, industry, academia, etc... all are bound up in the web.
Like"magic glasses" the tech allow us to "see" and "learn" things we could never have seen before -- but at a cost: Lose the glasses, and we're rendered blind and helpless.
The network of technology is extremely fragile, and vulnerable to failures that can come from multiple sources, man-made (accidental or intentional) or natural (such as a knock-out solar flare).
We've painted ourselves into one hell of a corner, I think.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
No one will think if they can help it.
1 InFury 2018-07-06
That's kind of just how techonlogy works though.
The industrial revolution was amazing for the world and we built our lives around it. If we somehow lost the ability to mass produce, we would have been SOL with how we structured society around it's benefits. Technology always has that effect.
But no, networks are a lot more stable than you think. Network anlysis suggests it'd be almost imppssinle for something like the internef to realistically go down, baring nuclear fallout.
1 soccerflo 2018-07-06
The device is just a piece of hardware. It's the software that addicts. Take out the phone battery or break it, and you're not addicted.
Many of the answers focus on games, not social media. Why?
For purposes of discussion, is a laptop a smart device? What about a smart TV?
Assuming a tablet definitely is a smart device.
What is a good phone to get that is dumb?
1 badbiosvictim1 2018-07-06
Both software and hardware cause addiction. Radiofrequency is the hardware. Radiofrequency induces addiction by depleting GABA.
WIKI] Addiction: Physical: Radiofrequency elevates excitotoxic glutamine and suppresses GABA which induces phone addiction and wi-fi addiction
https://np.reddit.com/r/phoneaddiction/comments/7ijbj4/wiki_addiction_physical_radiofrequency_elevates/
[WIKI] Addiction: Physical: Treatments for elevated glutamine and GABA deficiency
https://np.reddit.com/r/phoneaddiction/comments/7ijbeh/wiki_addiction_physical_treatments_for_elevated/
1 soccerflo 2018-07-06
thanks for this helpful info!
1 badbiosvictim1 2018-07-06
You are welcome.
1 WeAreTheResistance 2018-07-06
I think one of the biggest effects of smart phones on society is going to be manifested on The children of this first generation of smart technology. as parent myself, I've caught myself on numerous occasions telling my children "Hold On a second while I finish writing this email", when they come to me for something. I've caught myself getting annoyed at my own kids when they "interrupt" me while I'm immersed in my phone.
I've also seen this happen with my wife, and saw the absolute look of dejection on their faces. We are essentially inferring to them that our phones are more important to us then they are.
This not only has negative effects physcologically on them, it's also driving them into the same addictive loop that we are in. If the phone is more important to Mommy and Daddy then I am, I must have one myself.
By emotionally neglecting our kids, and not giving them are undivided attention, they will surely try and find that attention in other things, including drugs, alcohol, and other destructive behaviors in search of devotion.
Even after I became aware of how my addiction to smart phones was negatively impacting them, I still would still catch myself ignoring them, or even worse isolating myself in a separate room, so I could use my smart phone unmolested.
In order to be completely and totally present around our kids now, my wife and I purchased a landline, and now forward all incoming calls from our cell phones to the home phone, and we leave our phones in the car. Well we at least leave them in the car until the kids are asleep, at which point we usually go and get them to catch up on all the things we missed for several hours, completely ignoring each other.
I feel the effects on children are going to very detrimental in the long term.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Kudos dad!
1 seeking101 2018-07-06
massive props for recognizing a problem and not going into denial about it but rather make an effort to change. Your kids have a great role model
1 bukvich 2018-07-06
Tech Leaders Dismayed by Weaponization of Social Media; IEEE Spectrum; Nov 2017
TL/DR: what's dismaying these goons is Pepe and "Russian" hackers.
1 Ok_Increase 2018-07-06
Well at the beginning I loved it, I loved the thought of a smarter phone. Something being more useful to me. Then, I realized that everything I'm doing is being documented somehow and that this is the realization of the book 1984. Every phone has a camera. Then when Snowden shared his stories on how guys in the NSA exchange pictures taken illegally from webcams on women, wow I really understood. This is no BS. They intend to control EVERYTHING. And record every fucking fart you make.
So I quit Facebook, although I have to use Google for work and such. But all through VPN, it is seriously a grim future. It makes me sad, and to some extent a bit depressed. We have allowed a few to control the many, and even though we outnumber them - they probably have a plan for a social revolution. This isn't going to end well in my opinion, sadly.
Smart "tech" and AI are enslavement tools, we love the easiness of it, but we sacrifice everything else. The generations growing up now are documenting willingly each moment of their lives.
1 SquirrellyRabbit 2018-07-06
Well said on all your points. I don't see it ending well either. It indeed causes sadness and, for me, fear and intense concern for our not-so-distant future.
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-07-06
It can be used as a (permanent) crutch and tool of degeneracy, or it can supply the wisdom of the ages. Try to suck all the knowledge you can out of it and move on.
1 calliflower 2018-07-06
Best advice here.
1 MissType 2018-07-06
Panorama aired a documentary in the UK a few days ago - Smartphones: The Dark Side.
It’s 30mins long, so here’s a clip.
1 SIGHR 2018-07-06
thanks for that
1 RingosBeardNumber9 2018-07-06
It's weird, I've never really glommed on to phone for anything more than using it as a phone or for a traveling tool. I'm a desktop/laptop guy still, and my only addiction is Reddit. But I find Reddit to be mentally stimulating in may ways. It's keeping me sharp, and inspiring creativity. I don't bother with FB or Twitter or anything else.
1 accountingisboring 2018-07-06
In addition to all of these great points, I would like to point out the increasing level of “troll” like behaviors in real life interactions. Behind a keyboard, it is easy to lash out with a snarky reply, hop right into a ridiculous argument, or just flat out be mean to another human being. This is translating into real life behaviors. No longer are the days of respectful dialogues, common courtesies and basic human interactions. People have lost basic human connections and it’s showing more and more each day. Gone are the days of being respectful to your neighbors, now you are met with a fuck you attitudes. Gone are the days of striking up a casual conversation while waiting in line. Gone are the days of playing a board game with the family.
The more people disconnect from each other because they are always “connected” the further into the abyss we go.
1 WeAreTheResistance 2018-07-06
Very well said and so true. As someone who enjoys simple connections with complete strangers on the streets with a quick; Good morning, or genuinely compliment a total stranger for no reason, it deeply saddens me to see humanity disconnecting with one another.
1 accountingisboring 2018-07-06
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. When you stop interacting, you start believing all the bad things you see and hear on social media and the news. You start thinking that people really are bad/scary/hateful because that’s what you’re fed. But when you actually talk to people, you realize you have more in common than you don’t. There are far more good ones than bad. That human connection is what keeps us all grounded in reality. Otherwise, as we see today, everyone becomes the enemy. It’s isolating us, whether that’s by design or just a byproduct.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Weaponized ego. Division.
1 calliflower 2018-07-06
You are not alone. We need to make a social media app that would help people like you and I connect.
1 SquirrellyRabbit 2018-07-06
I enjoy those simple connections with strangers. You made mention of genuine compliments...I feel the same ways that you do. The rampant disconnection taking place is troubling and saddening. I can't have one conversation with one of my very best friends now because he will absolutely be preoccupied with his smart phone, and he has a friend who really needs him now like never before. It really hit me when I was talking about my late mother with whom I was very close; One of his responses after looking up from his phone proved that he didn't realize that I'd been talking about my mother (what was said absolutely didn't apply to my mother at all...that was the dead giveaway). Man, it hurts when you get second billing to a smart phone, especially with an old (and supposedly close) friend.
1 badbiosvictim1 2018-07-06
Radiofrequency biologically induces social isolation. Papers:
[WIKI] Social Isolation and loneliness are caused by mobile phones
https://np.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/4z6bxc/wiki_social_isolation_and_loneliness_are_caused/
Radiofrequency biologically induces aggression:
https://np.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/466fk4/wiki_aggression/
1 accountingisboring 2018-07-06
That’s making a whole lot of sense on both fronts. Thank you for sharing those links.
1 badbiosvictim1 2018-07-06
You are welcome.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
:)
1 Disrupturous 2018-07-06
I find those things are still possible but I also note that youth are not only taught to separate sex from gender but sexual attraction from romantic attraction. Yes sex does not always involve romance but this type of education just leads to less love in the world.
1 OWNtheNWO 2018-07-06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIsH686xWl0
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
This is a recent post. This is an excellent overview of 'smart meters' portion of the 'smart grid'.Here is 180 scientists and doctors appealing to EU re: safety of 5g. 5th generation Whistleblower. Great speech on EMF's. Lockheed Martin & other MIC engineers re: vertical flight, reverse gravity, etc. Zapped documentary. Even birds are effected. Chemtrails fill is with metals, making receivers. Propoganda.
Science. Advocates.
Protect your health from EMF's.
Protect your home. LED's are harmful too. Part of the plan
Here's an email from a leading expert in EMF's and the smart grid:
The roll out of 5G wireless service is 'a massive health experiment,' public health expert warns as cell companies install 800,000 towers across the US
Natalie Rahhal, Daily Mail, May 29, 2018
Wireless carriers are constructing cell towers a stronger, faster 5G network, but some experts warn that the updated service's health effects are unknown and potentially dangerous.
Today, there are 154,000 cell towers in the US, according to wireless communication association, CTIA. By 2026, it estimates another 800,000 will be needed to support 5G.
The network update will bring more Americans into closer proximity with milimeter waves, very short-wave radiation.
Research on cell phone radiation has yielded mixed findings, but some studies have linked older wireless service generations to cancers of the heart and reproductive organs, and 5G's health effects have hardly been studied.
Wireless providers have begun installing 800,000 'small cell' towers to support the roll out of the new 5G cellular network, but some public health experts warn they may endanger humans.
The new network is slated to support 100 billion devices, connecting to the internet at anywhere between 10 and 100 times the speeds that information travels through the 4G network.
In order to facilitate these speeds, the new network communicates through millimeter waves (MMWs) rather than microwaves, as previous generations have.
The microwave networks are nearly saturated, hence the switch to the virtually untouched, lower frequency MMWs for 5G.
But smaller waves cannot travel as far, or through as many types of materials.
This means that there will need to be far more individual 'small cell towers' closer together - some have suggested they will be on every street corner in the US.
The 5G technology is too new to have been thoroughly tested and studied by many parties outside of cell service providers.
According to Dr Joel Moskowitz, a public health professor at the University of California, Berkeley, MMWs could pose a very real danger.
'The deployment of 5G, or fifth generation cellular technology, constitutes a massive experiment on the health of all species,' he told Daily Mail Online.
Because MMWs are weaker than microwaves, they are predominantly absorbed by the skin, meaning their distribution is quite focused there,
'Since skin contains capillaries and nerve endings, MMW bio-effects may be transmitted through molecular mechanisms by the skin or through the nervous system,' Dr Moskowitz writes on his blog.
He also told Daily Mail Online that he's concerned that '5G will use high-band frequencies, or millimeter waves, that may affect the eyes, the testes, the skin, the peripheral nervous system, and sweat glands.'
'Millimeter waves can also make some pathogens resistant to antibiotics,' he added.
Dr Moskowitz is not alone in apprehensions.
The International Society of Doctors for the Environment, its subsidiaries in 27 countries, and more than 200 doctors and scientists are all calling for a stop to be put to the roll out of 5G, 'due to concern that 5G radio frequency radiation will have adverse health effects,' Dr Moskowitz says.
So far, their warnings have gone unheeded.
Verizon began rolling out their 5G small cell towers in 11 cities 2017, and AT&T started installing the new generation of service in Waco and Dallas, Texas, as well as in Atlanta, Georgia this year.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5784487/The-roll-5G-wireless-service-massive-health-experiment-public-health-expert-warns-a.html
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More information:
Scientists and Doctors Demand Moratorium on 5G
5G Wireless Technology: Is 5G Harmful to Our Health? 5G Wireless Technology: Millimeter Wave Health Effects
5G Wireless Technology: Cutting Through the Hype
5G Wireless Technology: Major newspaper editorials oppose "small cell" antenna bills
Cell Tower Health Effects
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Joel M. Moskowitz, Ph.D., Director Center for Family and Community Health School of Public Health University of California, Berkeley
Electromagnetic Radiation Safety
Website: https://www.saferemr.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaferEMR Twitter: @berkeleyprc
I am starting to see a very clear pattern here. What do you think?
1 Rdrums31 2018-07-06
Yeah man 5g scares me. Need to line my house with lead or some shit when that comes online.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
It's online already.
1 mijreggin 2018-07-06
An interesting Tedx talk about this subject. A lot of what he talked about has been coming true in the last couple of years.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MpOBhHtDVlk
1 InspirationByTCamara 2018-07-06
Did you ever wonder about the specific shape/form factor of these devices ?
They are a rectangular mini-version of the 2001: A Space Odyssee monolith, both of them being a direct connection to a higher power.
And that connection is now fully integrated with your physical body.
Does anyone see his/her smartphone in your dreams ? I bet you do not and that might also be an intentional part of the dark magic behind these devices.
1 ploopydoo 2018-07-06
what is the significance of seeing/not seeing it in your dreams?
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
I think Google (Halliburton/lockheed Martin) MIC killed Steve Jobs bc he was against a back door....
1 Oblique9043 2018-07-06
I have a theory that technology was given to us by aliens in order to eventually enslave us kind of like The Matrix. The idea is to separate us from everything that we're suppose to be connected to. Nature, spirituality, each other and the cosmos. Then we become so unhappy, we get addicted to all sorts of things. Technology being the easiest and safest thing, we think. It makes our lives better and more convenient. And look how easy it is to communicate with all my friends. Except it's not real communication. It's words on a screen. We need human interaction. We need be to out in nature. We need to be able to look up at the sky at night and see the incredible amount of stars in the milky way to be reminded of what we are instead of barely seeing anything because of light pollution. And through those 3 things, we will be able to connect to the spirituality of life itself. The divine spark inside of all life. It is any wonder our country has all the problems it does with drugs, suicide and anti-depressants? Our bodies are trying to tell us something. This isn't the way humans are suppose to live. Our natural reward systems have been hijacked and rewired.
This all started with the Neolithic Revolution. 7 (I think?) different spots all around the world over the course of thousands of years, all moved from hunter/gatherers to agricultural societies, independent of one another and then spread all over the globe. These groups say they got this knowledge and technology from beings from the sky, usually referred to as dragons. A model for this can even be seen in the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible. Adam and Eve get kicked out of the Garden of Eden (nature) and cursed to work the ground while Eve is told to be subservient to Adam which creates the patriarchy. That was the first step to separate us from nature and put us at odds with it, not caring if we destroy it. This also took us from abundance thinking being hunter/gatherers where everything was out in nature, you just had to go get it and you only take what you need since there was always more. To famine thinking with agriculture because you only had so many animals and crops each harvest. That induces a sort of paranoia and guardianship over what is yours because you need it to survive. In nature, everything belongs to everyone and there will always be more somewhere. This shift in thinking and lifestyle lead us all onto the path to where we are now. When farming is how you depend on your survival, you're going to try and create things that make that survival more likely and make it easier. There was no need for new technology in hunter/gatherers aside from, you could argue, weapons to hunt with and to possibly fight off another tribe but they got along just fine with what they had and there was no major competition to drive more creation of technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution
So with agriculture, you bring about the need for large scale governments, leaders, social elites, slaves. The people now fight over resources, especially because of population increases. With those increases, comes the need for more control. Today, there's only a handful of companies who control the vast majority of our food that comes from agriculture. Looking at this Wikipedia entry, you can see the various problems and devastating effects that large scale agriculture is having on our planet. It's helping drive climate change and climate change will undoubtedly cause famines due to droughts and other extreme weather patterns around the world. There's no way this will be sustainable unless some sort of major shift happens in at least the way we get our energy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_agriculture
Interesting to think that this one shift in our way of living has lead us down a very specific road and the knowledge from which this shift is accredited to, has basically the same story across the world, that it's from other worldly beings. Only through this shift has the control and enslavement of the entire human race been possible. The driving need to constantly improve technology, dig up oil, deforest the planet, emit greenhouse gases, use up a large portion of our water supply, etc
1 thisissparta7963 2018-07-06
Lol, stopped reading at 'patriarchy'. A plant based diet is far more healthier than eating meat. If we didnt learn on how to cultivate and grow crops and depended solely on hunting for food, we, along with the animals would have become extint long back.
1 Oblique9043 2018-07-06
Uhh...
You're not very good at reading are you? Maybe you shouldn't have stopped. Hunter/gatherer societies were much more egalitarian, that's just a fact. I would have just say, get the fuck over it.
Uhhh....
1 AnAccountOfMyOwn 2018-07-06
Before the rise of agriculture our plant consumption was much more diverse. Agriculture led to the severely limited food options that persist to this day. We heavily process our foods to give us the illusion of diversity, but in reality most people don't eat much beyond the same 3 animals or ~15 plants throughout their lifetime.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
Yup
1 Detroit4g 2018-07-06
Good write up. Adam and Eve were tempted with wisdom and knowledge, and the ability to become as God.
Mankind is going through the same process right now, with iPhones/Apple leading the charge, and Apple obviously has a fruit with a single bite out of it, referencing Eden.
All of this leading to the Singularity / true virtual reality, not just goggles but a full emerscion. Literally the Matrix.
1 Oblique9043 2018-07-06
Yes. We are doing our own will instead of God's. We think we each are our own God and we can do as we wish and nothing bad will happen. We think we can manipulate human genetics and create the "perfect" human, Designer babies are supposedly the future. Then we want to explore the cosmos and possibly seed other planets and create and manipulate other lifeforms. We think we're responsible enough to cause direct changes in the DNA of our race and change other planets when we can't even take care of ourselves?
In my opinion, we are ALL God together, as one. I hurt you, I hurt myself. We are just pieces of the whole, experiencing other pieces of the whole but it is all just an illusion, we are the same.
1 Sendmyabar 2018-07-06
I can very honestly say that I have to actively and consciously make an effort not to constantly look at my phone. I used to read ebooks on it but now make a point of getting physical books so I have less excuses to look at it.
Phones are energy vampires and that energy is attention.
1 herpderpfeynman 2018-07-06
change your phone's color mode to black & white / greyscale.
Less dopamine hits from the pretty colors of apps and notifications
1 Firespit 2018-07-06
In my own limited experience: Wi-Fi in very close proximity is very disruptive to cognitive functions.
I did an unvoluntary test with a 1 watt wireless antenna once, to connect to another router in the house. The antenna was about 1 m from my desk and I was exposed to the wifi waves for a couple of hours a day. After a while I couldn't concentrate or even think straight. The most obvious symptoms were brain fog, headaches, dizzyness and sleepiness. There also appeared a high pitch ringing in my ears.
Needless to say that I turn off Wi-Fi always on the router and phone and only use cable to connect them and recommend everyone to do the same.
1 lovingyouqtqt 2018-07-06
Dude theres already many signals in the air, your wifi does not make such difference, maybe if you had 50 routers.
1 Firespit 2018-07-06
Dude try it for yourself if you dont believe me. And report it here.
1 lovingyouqtqt 2018-07-06
I didnt say I dont believe, I jsut think the new 5G networks will fuck us harder than just one wifi network, especially here in europe where 10 different companies all put their own network.
1 wingbatwu 2018-07-06
I dont know about you guys, but lately I've been increasingly bored by the Internet/smartphone thing, especially the relentless advertising.
To paraphrase Bruce Springsteen: One billion youtube channels and nothing's on.
1 iHOPEimNOTanNPC 2018-07-06
That’s whats sad though is they’re literally killing the Internet with advertising. Ever notice how a lot of YouTube stuff you used to like doesn’t show up anymore? It’s all the stupid algorithm crap they have that buries good quality content for whatever stupid plastic entertainment they want to show you for that month.
1 wingbatwu 2018-07-06
https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/
1 187ninjuh 2018-07-06
I had that realization about this time last year... and simultaneously realized that I hadn't read a proper book in several years, despite always being a bookworm when I was a kid (I was not very popular).
Now it's been a year and I've consumed probably 30+ books in that time, some fiction, some non fiction and it's really changed my world.
I realized that I had spent most of the previous decade in a fog, not really thinking that hard about anything. Now that I've broken it, I see it everywhere around me... especially in places like this where we are supposed to be digging for the truth, all too often we just let it get served to us... no thinking required, you just have to know the narrative.
1 Gibbbbb 2018-07-06
THIS. I've struggled to be entertained by my smartphone. I go to politics reddit, sometimes a couple other reddits, but primarily this one for entertainment. Otherwise there are times when I realize there's nothing interesting to do on my phone. I could study, but I hate doing that on a small screen and I'm on my phone to relax
1 iHOPEimNOTanNPC 2018-07-06
I just wanted to chime in here and say we don’t need to obsess ourselves with scripture and other fanciful apocalyptic “ Mark of the beast“ shit. It’s already here. There’s no such thing as lining people up like cattle and shooting microchips in to their skin. That would cost way too much friction amongst the human masses so the next best step would be probably a smart phone. Not to mention the biggest kicker is that YOU pay for it.
1 ichoosejif 2018-07-06
They're spraying us with non ferrous metal. Receivers.
1 logmoss82 2018-07-06
Sure smartphones are addictive, but is this really a conspiracy? Sex is addictive too. Is that a conspiracy? Its not the phone that is addictive per se, but the simulated social interaction and validation that is provided through it. Companies just manipulate and serve the inherent desires that already exist in humans. Not much of a conspiracy. Just serving the desires of the public and filling their cravings for validation and interaction because now the have the technology to do it.
1 lovingyouqtqt 2018-07-06
The conspiracy is that this is just the beginning and were all doomed
1 AnAccountOfMyOwn 2018-07-06
No one purposefully designed sex to be addictive, so how could sex be a conspiracy? Some people do exploit the natural desire for sex to harm people so they can personally profit, yes, and that would be closer to what we're discussing here.
1 betterMonica 2018-07-06
Technologies of the new generation help humanity, but also cause harm.
1 Disrupturous 2018-07-06
I've said it before and I'll continue to: Memes are fucking stupid. The best and smartest memes are far-side cartoons. Everything of value takes more time, words, and thought than a meme can provide.
1 Gibbbbb 2018-07-06
Lol this put a Smile on my face(if you get my reference to a 10year old meme)
1 turtlew0rk 2018-07-06
Literally destroying social society at the very least.
I am pretty bad with the constant messing with/checking/looking and all that comes with it. Every pause in conversation every awkward moment I see myself doing it. I catch myself and put it back and do it again less than 5 minutes later. So many triggers cause me to do it.
I am conscious of it and actively trying to do something about it. I am 35 and for a big part of my life this wasn't a thing, neither was social media. I am very aware of all the problem. I am very aware of technology as a whole and what it is doing to society, and I STILL do it.
I cant imagine what its like for 20 somethings. They dont know life without it. They most likely will not be convinced there is a problem. Even worse we got babies with tablets in front of their faces hypnotized by the digital wonder. Dopamine addicts being produced all over. How do they even stand a chance?
Its bad. I dont know what can be done.
1 Renegade2592 2018-07-06
26, people my age are right on the verge. We grew up mostly without cell phones, playing outside, interacting with eachother, but that all changed right as we were leaving high school. We've been smack in the middle of both sides of this and if a revolution ever happens, we will be the ones leading the charge.. For all the shit we get I think we'll be the ones to finally do something.
1 turtlew0rk 2018-07-06
You are the first 20 something I have ever heard say anything bad about cell phones
1 Renegade2592 2018-07-06
Yeah I graduated 2010 like I said my age puts me in direct conflict. 26-29 ur Olds right now are struggling. It's so hard to date.. I meet a girl even 2 years younger than me and I can't get them off their phones/social media. I don't want to date a wannabe Instagram model that needs constant attention. I keep having so many failed relationships just because these young woman have a constant, incessant need for attention and to be entertained.. And I'm OK with doing nothing and just enjoying time together.. But than they get bored and want to be on their phones, running around being a hoe.. It's rough being on the precipice of this divide and very few people understand this plight.
1 Renegade2592 2018-07-06
I was also raised in Alaska and wasn't allowed to have a cell til I was 16 and it was a flip phone. I didn't have a smart phone til I was 19 so maybe that's why saved me.
1 970mississippi 2018-07-06
READ THIS article by Jon Rappaport. Reddit is all dif format did it change? i am kinda new so clueless but then i am that in general! thx
1 axolotl_peyotl 2018-07-06
It sure did.
Use: old.reddit.com
1 970mississippi 2018-07-06
thank you axolotl
1 thereddespair 2018-07-06
we are not going backwards to begin with, only forwards, faster and more than what we deal with now. so these people become addicted to it, so these people become dumbed down by it, incapable of saying no for some reason like sugar and bacon, so this so that... so what?
people who cant adapt will fade in history, but people who can will just come forward and take their place and flourish as always. where is the problem?
1 dj10show 2018-07-06
Privacy for me, but not for thee
1 PaBowbow 2018-07-06
Apt
1 Jimmycrackerson 2018-07-06
Good point! and with Wi-fi connected Smart T.V.s.
I dont buy cable/direct tv because I hate advertisements and mainstream media.
Sooo we have the kids using a remote control to navigate through you-tube and netflix.
It's a double edged sword.
1 Interior_Castle 2018-07-06
“smart”phones make it easier to get one’s fix anywhere, at any time. to extend the analogy
1 philandy 2018-07-06
I might just go price DSL with landline now thanks for the idea.