Is ancient Medical knowledge being supressed?

1  2018-07-10 by Krayborn

https://youtu.be/IIRX1AtDVsI

This video demonstrates mantra as a cure for an individual's cancer.

I have formally learned a technique of hands-on healing, where use of energy or intention interacts with the body of the client.

Is it possible that medical giant corporations manipulate study and public opinion to shake people's belief in internal healing methods?

People are rediscovering more and more, this Shamanic technology as a path for healing and spiritual growth, and it is widely used and recognized in many other countries.

Perhaps this country's cult of material science has led us astray for their own benefit.

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No, complete rubbish

Nonsense.

Perhaps this country's cult of material science has led us astray for their own benefit.

Who knew viewing a human as "only flesh and blood" and disregarding the human element which is your consciousness/spirit/psych would yield incomplete answers to problems

sheesh

Yeah... this is bullshit.

Show me one single case where someone’s cancer has been proven to be cured by “energy”.

A couple in Australia were just jailed for letting a child die because the refused ACTUAL medicine in order to heal the child with energy

Research Royal Rife Frequencies.

His results could never be replicated...

I’m still gunna look towards science that can be taught and replicated instead of some quack scientist selling snake oil and false hope

I didn't know his results had never been replicated. I admit that I haven't done much research on it. But I did remember reading about it. So I thought I would mention it.

The so called "laws of physics" are nothing more than the simplified conclusions man arrived at from a severely limited perspective and understanding.

Human knowledge is infinitesimal. You are quick to judge another a "quack snake oil salesman". Why? because you dont understand what he did. And others who didnt understand couldnt replicate either?

No. I am quick to judge because he has literally no facts to his claims. No one could ever reproduce his claims and his “facts” literally don’t make sense. This isn’t a “well, maybe we just don’t understand yet” case. The dude was a huckster who died without one single of his claims ever been proven true, and the same for after his death.

Human knowledge may be “infinitesimal” as you say, but when scientific claims can not be proven by peer-reviewed science it’s time to stop giving it the time of day.

And if the laws of physics are “noting more than simplified conclusions” then his claims didn’t meet any of the currently accepted conclusions. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT SCIENCE IS!

Scientific method isn’t set in stone, it’s a constant updating of process and new knowledge and fucking quack ideas like this don’t stand up to old, or new ideas.

And, when your loved one is during of cancer in front of you, let’s see where you go for treatment. The the large pile of false scientific healing machines or the actual science and medicine of a hospital...

I can't even begin to respond to this. Our understanding of the laws of physics are running your life. Your computer, your WiFi connection, the car you drive, fucking everything man. The laws of physics are concrete.

You can replicate them and we do it billions of times a day with millions of things but faith healing has nothing. No verifiable evidence period.

Your life is saturated with the rewards of our physics knowledge and yet you want to completely dismiss it. Ridiculous.

Thank you!

I find it absolutely mind boggling that people say this shit. The dude used a computer or a phone to post his message but tries to discredit physics...

“I got a sunburn, but I don’t think the sun is real”

Man makes creates technology from observed natural phenomena while not having a complete understanding.

Man's laws of physics are not "running our life". Man merely observed with a limited appratus the infinite complexity of creation, and summarized what he saw.

For example, electrical technology is ubiquitous, however man has not even a fundamental understanding of what magnetism is.

Wow look at this puny human who thinks he has everything figured out! That thinks the universe works in a way us humans could possibly understand! That seems to have forgotten that ALL of us are tiny simplistic (incredibly fucking complex at the same time) specks that exist for an incredibly short amount of time for some fucking reason none of us have figured out. I'm 98% sure that in 100 years the school of physics will have changed completely. From what I've seen of existence from my two eyes, the weirder the theory the more likely it's true. This existence is so freaking weird, you just have to start looking outside of society to see that.

its fuckin' energy bro,

what more do you want?

radioactive energy?

quantum radioactive energy

Results don't lie.

Proof...

Something not a single “faith healer” can provide.

James Randi has a $1 Million prize for anyone who can prove something supernatural (including faith healing) and guess what... he has never had to pay out a single cent.

Disbelief is a frequency. You put disorder and disharmony and disconnection out. It can frazzle a healing. Do you know that feeling when you're doing something that you do, perhaps you're good at it, but then the mere awareness of being watched can throw off your whole game.

Consciousness affects consciosness

Or you know, that feeling is just insecurity of your own self and not “frequencies”...

Nothing you are saying is based in fact or reality

Ha! And are you the mighty decider of reality, Friend?

Don't put it in me to defend or explain for televised millionares using christian charlatains. If you made me, I would ask you, are you certain those healers believe in what they are doing? More importantly, no honest medical practice claims 100 percent success. It barely happens, but sometimes ordinary routine proceedures like wisdom teeth extractions, a surgeon will damage the vital artery that supplies your gums, resulting in a critical injury maybe death. Nothing will work with certainty and I dont have all the answers. I heard the stats overall from my teacher, so I have no stats, But the generalized stats for major operations are slightly less successful than placebo, while tracked pranic therapy has been slightly more effective than placebo. Its hard to make generalizations in this field because each body and illness is so unique and varied, and this world so immense it seems just at least one case of just everything is bound to happen somewhere. People are rarely but still sometimes born without skin. Nobody deserves that fate but it happens. Neither my "magik" nor surgery is going to save them. But both approaches have proven effective in their own right.

I think any anecdotal evidence of new age type healing can be attributed to the placebo effect. It seems theoretically possible that unwaivering belief that something will cure you could actually inform the body to bring itself back into homeostasis. I think the mind is much more powerful than many people realize.

I agree. I think the mind is much more powerful than we realize too.

Perception is the most powerful tool in existence. Our conciousness is akin to a god, it just takes shit loads of practice to escape the human perspective.

Yes, I've heard this.

Ok, but what IS the placebo effect? It has a real, tangible effect on peoples physical health so there is absolutely something going on, but what?- that is the question OP is asking.

Your background system controls your whole body so you can just scroll through reddit not thinking about breathing and digesting. If your mind is that powerful it can probably do other stuff.

But it's not effective, you can't delude yourself into eliminating a virus or cancer. These are physical processes not some state of mind.

And even if someone could do something like OP says then test it. Do a trial, prove the method can be reproduced. Take imaging of a cancer patient before and after with no other treatment. Show the reduction or elimination of cancer cells.

If it was real it wouldn't be hard to prove, someone would just have to do it in a controlled environment that could be observed and recorded. That's it.

Try not to coubt your chickens it's not so simple. See what if there has been such study and science done even by our own scientists. Well legally they only have to release the results of the study they like. Do 1000 trials? 800 of them don't go your way, throw them out, never happened the 200 times the results point to your conclusion? "A new study was published and over 200 participants experienced ect." Never mentioning how many times they ran the test all together. I just mean to illustrate how if our sciencers and doctorfolk don't believe in their results, we will simply never see them.

Also. The process requires belief as a fundamental element. This means it isnt so easy to accomplish, you need multiple trained practitioners plus a client who wants their healing in this mode, all in a society full of judgemental apes who will literally call you crazy for simply acknowleging how amazing and magical our bodies really are.

There's literally thousands of medications tested with a placebo as a control that show it does work. I think you may be missing the point. If placebos have a measurable effect as long as the patient believes its a legit treatment then why is science not exploiting this fact to come up with treatments that are 100% safe as opposed to more invasive techniques?

Show me one study where the placebo effect produced a more positive result than a medication for the same illness. At no point is a placebo a more effective treatment. And yes a positive outlook can help healing but it's not making physical shit heal on its own where it otherwise wouldn't have.

Wouldn't know off the top of my head a particular example. But you may also want to take into account that actual medications are also subject to the placebo effect. Not advocating for no medication, just that we seem to be ignoring a powerful tool simply because pharmaceutical companies love to dose people up and rake in the money.

The fact that an increasing number of medications are unable to beat sugar pills has thrown the industry into crisis. The stakes could hardly be higher. In today's economy, the fate of a long-established company can hang on the outcome of a handful of tests.

https://www.wired.com/2009/08/ff-placebo-effect/

https://www.livescience.com/42430-placebo-effect-half-of-drug-efficacy.html

Yes, the placebo effect gets a bad rap, but the mind is hugely important for healing. Especially for things like pain

I dont believe in new age treatment for cancer itself, but Im sure it helps with all the side effects

But the "placebo effect" is a direct correlation of energy and the power of your brain. You can do all types of things if you believe in what you are doing.

The placebo effect is very real and can be cultivated towards superior operational efficiency. Of course the conventional, conformist attitude/spirit will obfuscate, suppress and ignore the implications behind this.

Pretty disrespectful, dealt with Cancer, dont talk shit dude. Its not like you can make it go away with magic.....

I dont mean to disrespect any healing mode. I just prefer my mode, which uses raw feeling, the data of emotion. Science and medicine in the weat are not sure what to make of emotions, but I assure you the answer is not to pretend they dont exist or matter. They are a key component of the living experience. Healing through belief and emotion has fewer adverse health effects than literal radiation and clinicly it's proven as or more effective.

New age and shamanism are just another part of the control prgm you are trying run from. They are the net to catch people like you. The same goes for most drugs, and all recreational drug use, they are just another chain.

when you say 'most drugs', do you mean cannabis also?

He has no clue what he talks about, drug is completely artificial human political classification.

Not running from a thing, Love. I don't have to go anywhere to not be under control :P

I'd disagree very strongly. DMT shows you ineffable shit while ripping you out of your body and showing you other dimensions. No human made that stuff, and if anything it shows you the control program in its entirety (hint it's being pushed by just about everyone on the social network that mentally binds us). Psychedelics are incredibly powerful tools that can enlighten us if used properly.

Since there exists no evidence i don't believe in it. On the other hand, cancer can be cured in numerous ways, the whole disease is misrepresented by medical establishment. This has been proven numerous times.

when you say 'most drugs', do you mean cannabis also?

Not running from a thing, Love. I don't have to go anywhere to not be under control :P

I'd disagree very strongly. DMT shows you ineffable shit while ripping you out of your body and showing you other dimensions. No human made that stuff, and if anything it shows you the control program in its entirety (hint it's being pushed by just about everyone on the social network that mentally binds us). Psychedelics are incredibly powerful tools that can enlighten us if used properly.