Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. What happened?
1 2018-07-14 by joshua_ray
My friend asked me about the mystery of flight MH370. Does this forum have any info it can share to enlighten a newby? Are there any strong theories on what happened?
I came across this passenger manifest info here, https://m.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1443730/full-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passenger-list
Are any of these people important?
Is there any connection to the incident four months later, where a plane was shot down? What's the bigger picture?
Thanks
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1 keepusernamesecret 2018-07-14
I may be off on some of the details but there is a theory that a group of scientists aboard the plane shared a patent with the Rothschilds.
1 Gr8MissFortune 2018-07-14
I heard about that over the possible cure for hiv but now we have names on two of the passangers And maybe find out if these guys can provide any further information like proffession maybe find a flight log if they where actually suppose to be on the flight or if they are decoys who there affiliated with etc etc
1 bringsmemes 2018-07-14
take a look at who Freescale Semiconductor was, and how many patent holders were on the flight, and who consequently got the patent after they all were declared dead
1 A_J_Hiddell 2018-07-14
Go ahead, tell us. There's the list of passengers. Find out what patents they hold. Please be specific.
1 BeLucky 2018-07-14
Can you be more specific on the exact info you want us to find for you?
1 A_J_Hiddell 2018-07-14
bringsmemes is referring to a story which was posted on the internet not too long after MH370 disappeared, claiming things about Freescale patents that were issued the week MH370 disappeared. In truth, everything about the story is wrong: the importance of the patents, how patent law works, who owned Freescale. But most of all, none of the patent holders were on the flight.
So I was just challenging bringsmemes to find a patent holder on the list of passengers.
1 BeLucky 2018-07-14
I see. I guess a viable question to ask is why did one of the Rothschilds inherit the patent not long after the disaster?
1 A_J_Hiddell 2018-07-14
They didn't. The patent rights for the inventions of Freescale employees belong to the company by virtue of their employment contracts. That's why Freescale is listed as the assignee on all the patents. The inventors assigned the rights to Freescale. Whether the inventors lived or died is completely irrelevant.
There's also no evidence any Rothschild had anything to do with Freescale.
Like I said, everything about this story is wrong.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
While it seems 20 employees were on the plane, I don't see the names of those 4 supposed patent holders, on the passenger manifest.
1 allonthesameteam 2018-07-14
Bam. My thoughts exactly.
1 BeshizzleAGenizzle 2018-07-14
I think its flight controls were hacked.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
What makes you think that?
1 Lordnerble 2018-07-14
While back theories were posted/claims made that hackers could potentially hijack flights in mid air remotely. Proceeding to operate planes much like a drone except without being able to precision land without pilot assistance since no system in place to do that. But if you fly it till it's on fumes and go ok pilot here are your options land the plane on this strip or die.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
This is a very key detail to me. Was this before or after the plane allegedly crashed?
Another angle shows Freescale Semiconductor had 20 employees on that flight, and their company worked on countersignals controller chips.
In my humble opinion, this has Def Sec written all over it, and imo increases the liklihood of an even grander sort possibilities. Did the plane even crash, or did it land safely somewhere with everyone popping champagne?
1 mralstoner 2018-07-14
It went north and landed in China/Russia. They hijackers faked the satellite data with a southern flight path to throw investigators off the trail.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
While the CNN analyst Mr Weiss has an interesting hypothesis, I feel he is merely guessing.
1 mralstoner 2018-07-14
Okay, you go with your feels. That's not like "guessing".
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
Right. I cannot confirm what this man is saying, so I must deny it. I have written a big comment, showing my research, on what I was able to confirm.
1 BeLucky 2018-07-14
That's a pretty hypocritical was of thinking.. You can't confirm what they're saying so you're going to deny it? Yet no one on here can confirm what you're saying, yet we're supposed to follow your info like you're a trustworthy source?
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
Actually much of the information I have presented in this post is able to be confirmed. After all, that's what I did before I presented it.
I checked the passenger manifests. I reported on key details of the investigations which are in and of themselves profound, and I concluded that I could not find evidence of the claims others are making. These are all things that are able to be confirmed by anyone.
1 BeLucky 2018-07-14
Your information can be confirmed by no one credible which does not fill me with the confidence to just take your word for it. There are many holes in your articles and not enough evidence presented for me to believe your version is the complete story. You have completely disregarded or foolishly overlooked one key story in this puzzle, if have the ability to muster some intelligence to compile your info above I'm sure you'll enjoy looking into MA Flight 17.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
You are making one very large mistake. You have foolishly labelled the articles as mine and the information as mine. The information and the articles have never belonged to me, nor did I write them.
There certainly is enough information to be confirmed, and it all certainly can be confirmed by any given person.
I probably will enjoy looking into flight MH17. Thanks. What else are you mad about? Im not sure I understand why you are so combative. I have done nothing wrong and the only complain you should have, is that my job wasn't finished.
Well it is your job to either finish what I started, or help me to finish. Yet for some reason you have chosen to attack, and for what reason? What have I actually done wrong?
What have I said was confirmed that you think is not actually confirmed? Make a list. Check it twice. Be sure of yourself, and then comment again please.
Thanks.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
Here's your MH17 info. I'm still awaiting a proper rebuttal from you, and welcome a fair conversation on any concerns you may have, should you manage to express those concerns effectively.
1 ihavetenfingers 2018-07-14
Aww, thats a cute way of pronouncing hos butthurt you are simply because of someone not agreeing with your YouTube video.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
Update on Research:
March 19, 2014: 20 employees of Freescale Semiconductor were aboard the plane, all of which had high positions. Freescale happened to be working on technology which could help a plane escape detection by radar systems. Could MH370 have been a real world proof of concept? https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/465557/Malaysian-plane-20-on-board-worked-for-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company
September 5, 2017: Zahid Raza, Honorary Consul of Malaysia, who was investigating plane crash was "specifically targetted" and killed, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/murder-man-zahid-raza-mh370-conspiracy-theories-missing-plane-blaine-gibson-madagascar-malaysia-a7930891.html
January 18, 2018: Malaysia reopens investigation, a year after ending it, http://www.newsweek.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-investigation-resumed-785110
Feb 9, 2018: Malaysia "sidelines" 4 investigators and seeks to replace them with air force pilots that have less crash investigation experience, http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-08/malaysia-replaces-civilian-mh370-investigators-with-pilots/9410586?pfmredir=sm
March 19, 2018: 25 year Aussie crash investigator and Engineer claims he has proof of location of plane riddle with bullet holes, and supplies pictures, but is quickly denounced by the Australia Transport and Safety Bureau, https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/03/mh370-conspiracy-australian-officials-slam-investigator-over-cover-up-claims.html
May 18, 2018: Canadian accident investigator who wrote a book claiming he believes that it was a murder-suicide, goes on 60-Minutes Australia as part of a team of "experts" (conjecture artists), https://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-crash-deliberate-panel-of-aviation-experts/
May 29, 2018: Malaysia officially closes investigation again, https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/malaysia-ends-four-year-hunt-missing-airline-mh370-82121
Afterthoughts: Maybe we have all been distracted by the bigger picture. Proving their technology works would have made Freescale Semicpnductor a lot of money. Sure enough within a year of the incident Freescale became poised to take over as leader of the market, https://www.thestreet.com/story/13063305/1/freescale-semiconductor-fsl-stock-soars-today-on-40-billion-nxp-semiconductors-deal.html
Now in 2018: Freescale Semiconductor is poised to merge with Qualcomm, and it's stocks plunge, dispite good first quarter earnings, making their purchase desirable, https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/05/03/why-nxp-semiconductors-nv-shares-plunged-today.aspx
Thanks for reading!
1 ReDMeridiaN 2018-07-14
I met a private jet pilot at a bar one night who flies various executives and celebrities around for a living, and he told me that “someone who would know” told him what actually happened.
Apparently, the pilots were moving something incredibly illegal and/or dangerous on that plane.he said they ended up releasing a gas into the cabin to put everyone to sleep, then they landed to drop off their cargo. After that, they took off again, and then parachuted out, leaving everyone to crash and die in the middle of the ocean.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
There seem to be a number of leaps of logic here. Which was it, dangerous or illegal?
First it is useless to put all of the passengers to sleep, because they aren't the only ones witnessing the plane's actions. Military and other signal operations would have tracked the irregularities in the flight path.
If they parachuted out in the middle of the ocean who picked them up? Did they swim home?
It seems obvious, that there are way easier ways to smuggle things. The CIA uses shell companies for instance. Your story sounds very James Bond and larger than life (ie. Far fetched). Unless you have some evidence what you were told is true, I'd be sure to deny what we cannot confirm, especially when there are such interesting things that we can.
1 ReDMeridiaN 2018-07-14
Yeah I know it sounds crazy. That’s just what someone told me. At the very least, now you know what pilots are saying amongst themselves.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
All I "know", is that you have made a claim about what one pilot said. I don't know if that claim is accurate, and I don't have any evidence that multiple pilots are talking about this amongst themselves, as you claim.
1 R3almOfR3ality 2018-07-14
I'm sorry but for some reason the "did they swim home?" cracked me up a bit:)
1 forzion_no_mouse 2018-07-14
and then the pilots died cuz it's very difficult to parachute out of a passenger plane
1 calliflower 2018-07-14
After watching a few docos about mh370, my opinion is UFO encounter. Not that I believe much in aliens and stuff (i have yet to see a convincing video record), but I can't think of any other fully convincing hypothesis.
I like the freescale hypothesis. However, there are too many things around this case that cannot make it a fully believable scenario. Why did all foreign authorities agreed to stay quiet ? Why would they crash a plane full of passengers just to get rid of these 4 chinese guys ? Organizing a plane crash seems overly complicated here. They could have got say, freescale to arrange a team building trip by bus, and have the bus fall over a cliff or something. Or even pay a hitman, or disguise a suicide, or poison the guys. Not a specialist of this, but that seems way easier to do than arranging a plane crash.
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
Thanks for representing the UFO angle. I was waiting and hoping somebody would present that angle. Do you have links to some documentaries?
I can think of other plausible hypotheses. Please see my large comment where I update on the research I've been doing. Freescale Semiconductor is painted on a lot of moving pieces here, and had monetary incentive to conduct this event, for reasons which I have guessed at. The year after the event, the company became the industry leader, and now is about to merge with Qualcomm. The company was working on chips that would help an airplane evade military level detection systems. So in my humble opinion, this could have been a real world proof of concept, and all the people could be alive. On the other hand they could really have died, but we havent found any of their bodies, though wreckage washed ashore allegedly. Thats a huge glaring hole in the official story it seems.
1 calliflower 2018-07-14
If it was about a guy (call him Mr Rothchild or whatever), getting their hands on a very valuable patent, why would authorities from other countries such as China, Malaysia, Thailand etc... cooperate with the official narrative ? What do they gain here ? They don't get a share of the patent rights, do they ?
Why would that British satellite images company (inmarsat) refuse to release satellite images with the plane flight path ? If it was about the pilot who committed a suicide, the blame goes on the now defunct pilot, doesn't it ? Malaysian Airlines gives a formal speech and say they are sorry for the loss, and case closed.
Why would this former French commercial planes pilot, who initiated to conduct his own investigations, say that his mate working at the French secret services "strongly advised him to give up" ? (this comes from a documentary I watched on YT).
To me, these 3 questions alone rule out the freescale patent scenario, however interesting that scenario sounds.
Another interesting scenario is a diplomatic accident. Like, the Americans at diego garcia accidentally shot down the plane. But that doesn't make sense either. Because, commercial planes leave a different radar signature than military planes, so you cannot take a commercial plane for a military plane. And I don't think you can "accidentally" shoot a missile. That must require several levels of approvals in the military hierarchy.
The other most plausible scenario (given the UFO can be called plausible) would be that the plane was shot down to move forward an agenda or to solve some diplomatic tensions between Malaysia and another country. You know, like when they do these false flag attacks in the UK, US or France, and they are meant to send a warning, or to push an authoritarian state agenda (=we need to record everyone's Internet activity to avoid any such attacks repeat in the future)
1 joshua_ray 2018-07-14
I agree that there are a number of Freescale Semiconductor theories which are far-fetched, but when I see a cloud of mis and disinformation wrapped around something that perks my detective nose.
First to make something seem absurd, then to discard it, but I am not finished yet or ready to discard Freescale. In my research which is found in a big main reply to this post, I uncovered that Freescale was working on tech that allowed planes to escape even military signal ops. I say, that one detail should perk anyone's ear. The question that popped into my mind is, was this plane event merely a real world proof of concept? After all, the company Freescale Semiconductor became the market leader a year later, and now is poised to merge with Qualcomm.
1 calliflower 2018-07-14
If it was about a guy (call him Mr Rothchild or whatever), getting their hands on a very valuable patent, why would authorities from other countries such as China, Malaysia, Thailand etc... cooperate with the official narrative ? What do they gain here ? They don't get a share of the patent rights, do they ?
Why would that British satellite images company (inmarsat) refuse to release satellite images with the plane flight path ? If it was about the pilot who committed a suicide, the blame goes on the now defunct pilot, doesn't it ? Malaysian Airlines gives a formal speech and say they are sorry for the loss, and case closed.
Why would this former French commercial planes pilot, who initiated to conduct his own investigations, say that his mate working at the French secret services "strongly advised him to give up" ? (this comes from a documentary I watched on YT).
To me, these 3 questions alone rule out the freescale patent scenario, however interesting that scenario sounds.
Another interesting scenario is a diplomatic accident. Like, the Americans at diego garcia accidentally shot down the plane. But that doesn't make sense either. Because, commercial planes leave a different radar signature than military planes, so you cannot take a commercial plane for a military plane. And I don't think you can "accidentally" shoot a missile. That must require several levels of approvals in the military hierarchy.
The other most plausible scenario (given the UFO can be called plausible) would be that the plane was shot down to move forward an agenda or to solve some diplomatic tensions between Malaysia and another country. You know, like when they do these false flag attacks in the UK, US or France, and they are meant to send a warning, or to push an authoritarian state agenda (=we need to record everyone's Internet activity to avoid any such attacks repeat in the future)