Is Donald Trump a Russian Spy?
1 2018-07-17 by consuli
There are some strong indications, that Donald Trump does not act in the interest of the american people.
- Putin and the FSB are accused by the FBI, to have intefered in the 2016 US presidential elections. These inteference is said to consist out of the follwowing parts:
- The FBI is investigating links between Russian officials and Donald Trump's campaign team, for the questionhow many persons of Donald Trump's campaign have been actively involved in Putin's inteference in the US presidential elections.
- The FBI officially accuses 12 Russian intelligence officers for the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's email account during the presidential campaign.
- Yesterday Donald Trump has met Wladimir Putin in Helsinki. But he did not address the official FBI accusation to Putin. Instead he stated: "I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today," Trump said during a joint news conference after he spent about two hours in a room alone with Putin, save for a pair of interpreters."
All this does only makes sense, if Trump truly did dirty deal with Putin and now is depended on Putin, who blackmails him with publishing the dirty deal.
Consuli
42 comments
1 Dodge1992 2018-07-17
This shit happened under Obama. Follow the money.
1 op-return 2018-07-17
No.
1 revoman 2018-07-17
No.
1 Osziris 2018-07-17
It's a big club, chaos reigns supreme to divide the world until the solution arises which is the NWO.
1 Capt_Irk 2018-07-17
Ugh...
1 japaneseMEOW_com 2018-07-17
Yes, let's trust CNN and Wikipedia. What a great idea.
1 HERBERT_HATHELWAITE 2018-07-17
He's not a spy, he's a useful tool in Putin's toolbox of chaos.
1 Pete_Castiglione_ 2018-07-17
How do you deal with the second largest nuclear power when your own country has been plowing throught militarty engagements for the last 17 years? Should we preemptive strike with a nuke? Sanctions until they nuke us? Should I skip the anxiety and just die right now? I see now peace will not happen. My leadership either fucks and eats little kids or sucks russian dick. Thats where my taxpayer dollars have gone.
1 Auphor_Phaksache 2018-07-17
The last 17 years or since 1886?
1 OrthoTaiwan 2018-07-17
donald does both. Plus may have murdered two that we have heard about.
1 Pete_Castiglione_ 2018-07-17
Im glad you have the inside track on billionaire movements. I hope you get the war you are rallying for. Ive machined enough rounds for a few weeks of fighting. I dont want them to go to waste, ya know?
1 OrthoTaiwan 2018-07-17
Sure, ok. I’ll stick to the facts. I’m not a lifelong victim.
1 Pete_Castiglione_ 2018-07-17
Well Im a Marine Corps veteran so I am particularly offended you think I will kill Americans. Lol @ your rear-world experiences. And also seems you stalked my account, would you like me to PM you my address too?
1 rodental 2018-07-17
No.
1 Jahred89 2018-07-17
No.
1 Shitlord_panda 2018-07-17
I honestly think trump is thinking like a bussiness man and sees russia as a new market and putin realises if he gets america on side hell get away with more so both goverments are playing nice
1 slapstellas 2018-07-17
You don’t think the US and Russia have always been butt buddies behind the scenes?
1 Shitlord_panda 2018-07-17
Of course they have they prob just saw trump as good means to bring it to light
1 consuli 2018-07-17
Business considerations do not play any role in Donald Trump's national preferences. On the list of US trading partners Russia is the smallest one. During Trump's government period Mexico, Canada, South Korea have signed a free trade contract with the European Union. Following the trade list's the US-Exports to these four countries count roughly 100 times more than the exports to Russia. (Please read up the list yourself, before you oppose to it.)
Consuli
1 heelspider 2018-07-17
As far back as 1987, Trump visited Moscow and was told about their interest in a Trump hotel. Trump came back to the US and, even though he had never been political before, purchased full page ads attacking NATO. He's likely been a Russian asset for a long, long time.
1 wittor 2018-07-17
asset seems a better word, i agree
1 UnseenPresence2016 2018-07-17
In this case, it's a very small difference.
But if you want to suggest that he's an -employee- of Putin's, who is taking his marching orders from a foreign leader and performing acts designed to shift the entire global stage in Russia's favor and in the destruction of the United States' economic treaties, alliances and standing--
sure, call him an asset.
It actually makes him worse, IMO. A spy just shares info. An asset acts as an extension of the foreign countries' will.
1 Coopering 2018-07-17
For the awareness of all: /u/heelspider says he was banned from here for stating a verifiable fact, followed by his opinion of something shady.
He got banned here, in /r/conspiracy.
1 Itsandylandman 2018-07-17
If that is true and he is a foreign asset (which i just really hope he isnt) then America is totally bought and paid for. I mean, I already suspect it is via the federal reserve (which controls the U.S Monetary policy and is owned not by Americans or our government, but by international bankers) and I personally think the US is more like a big corporation that the international bankers are using to make as much money as possible before they just let us go and destroy ourselves.
This is the primary reason I hold onto some hope for Trump. If hes sincere, he knows all this and is actually doing a lot to correct the imbalances in our government that pay these fraudster bankers every day and defraud the American People. If hes not, he is just buying them another decade or so to collect and collect before they have to let their long term investment go.
1 dukey 2018-07-17
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-17/putin-denies-having-dirt-trump-calls-accusations-election-interference-utterly
1 consuli 2018-07-17
A citation from your link: "He (Putin) insisted that the idea that Russia could have influenced the votes of millions of Americans during the 2016 election was "utterly ridiculous" while insisting that Russia doesn't have compromising materials on President Trump."
A popular saying in secret service circles is: "If there are stiff rumpours, they are usually true."
1 dukey 2018-07-17
So if you go out and create rumors it makes them true? Logic is beyond flawed. Smearing political opponents with false allegations is the oldest trick in the book.
1 consuli 2018-07-17
Obviously Chris Wallace from Fox News had similar doubts in a proper relationship between Putin and Donald Trump like I and (indepedently from me) addressed them to Putin in that interview.
Right on the next day Donald Trump has executed an astonishing 180 degree backflip of his statement "I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today,"
And in your opinion all this is business as usual ???? (And blaming me for bringing up rumours myself?)
1 CCM4Life 2018-07-17
3 month old account,
4 posts asking about Trump.
piss poor effort, I'm contacting your employer now.
1 wittor 2018-07-17
the fact that he threw a candy to angela merkel and believes in putin without any flinch, says to me that he is in his pocket, i don't believe that he is a spy.
1 UncleSnake3301 2018-07-17
Lol, what?
1 wittor 2018-07-17
https://nypost.com/2018/06/20/trump-reportedly-tossed-a-starburst-toward-merkel-during-g7-summit/
https://sputniknews.com/viral/201806211065631081-trump-throws-candy-merkel/
will not say that those are the most trustable but...
1 UncleSnake3301 2018-07-17
Oh I understand the reference I just don’t get how Trump throwing a Starburst at Merkle indicated he’s a Russian asset.
1 Coopering 2018-07-17
Meaning it’s an indication of his level of respect and/or fear for the person in front of him. He dismissed the leader of the free world because she’s a woman, while Putin-who is smaller-scares him, so he acts differently.
Think about it: of all the world leaders he’s finally met, which ones make him the most wet? The only two with confirmed kills credited to their names.
1 sweetholymosiah 2018-07-17
Clinton email account was probably a leak. Also, she was using her private server illegally and insecurely (along with many other bureaucrats) to share classified info with (????) while taking bribes in the form of Foundation donations. So whoever leaked it / hacked it (probably both since it was so insecure) simply released accurate records of her emails, much of which she illegally deleted before providing the rest to the FBI. SO there's that.
'fake news' on facebook? What would you call corporate media lies that started the iraq war? Who's (whose) fake news?
Trump is a threat to the status quo because he's unpredictable and holds some strong opinions about the trade imbalance with China, and disagrees with Middle Eastern foreign policy.
Are you aware that in the 50s, those with opinions different than the status quo were labelled 'Reds' or 'Communist' Russians? Turns out the American Imperialists just needed a boogey man to keep American society under their control. Do you see a pattern at all?
1 WTCMolybdenum4753 2018-07-17
What are some of the "indications"?
1 UncleSnake3301 2018-07-17
Hillary got $400,000,000 from Russians. Who’s bought and paid for now?
1 charonco 2018-07-17
Says the guy repeating propaganda directly from Putin's mouth.
1 Zap_Powerz 2018-07-17
Sure, why not? Who cares and what difference does it make?
What was the alternative? Clinton who would be owned by the same people that own trump?
People that constantly post political shitposts here are the worst conspiracy theorists there are. If you think we get to have any say in who rules us, you are not a conspiracy theorist. If you think there is a significant difference between the two parties, you are not a conspiracy theorist. Youre just a useful idiot.
1 UnseenPresence2016 2018-07-17
There is still a difference between "elite politician" and "Russian spy".
The greatest success Putin and Trump have accomplished is persuading people that there is none.
1 Sabbath777 2018-07-17
Nobody with an ounce of sense is buying this garbage.