Friendly reminder of current Russian conspiracy at the White House
1 2018-08-06 by Cardinal_HELL
a quick look at the hot topics is enough to make it clear that this sub is not genuinely concerned with consipracies, as there is nothing there about the hilariously/upsettingly obvious conspiracy that has taken place at the White House over the past two years.
It is quite clear that the Trump administration is moving the USA towards fascism. The fact that it is tied up with Putin's administration in such myriad ways that the President is now so undeniable that the President is openly admitting collusion.
This is a conspiracy. Another (far less interesting) conspiracy is the lack on posts about it here.
65 comments
1 Alexander_the_Avg 2018-08-06
This is the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on r/conspiracy.
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
this is the least effort I have ever seen put into a reply on r/conspiracy.
1 Yarp_Darfley69 2018-08-06
You have a point about his comment but posts like this (lacking sources or any case examples at all) really hurts this sub’s credibility
1 humpenscrumps 2018-08-06
THIS hurts this subs credibility?
1 lemme-explain 2018-08-06
You know about the flat earth stuff right?
1 DonnaGail 2018-08-06
I disagree with you. The Trump administration is not moving the USA toward fascism.
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening" - Trump
1 bradok 2018-08-06
That's also the Truth, no matter who is saying it. The media lies. Always has- Free Press has never existed in the US. It was always biased one way or the other. Hell, Hamilton and Jefferson both controlled their own news outlets to disseminate info.
1 bluelouie 2018-08-06
Lol
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
nah, not really. It's the death of a great country.
1 bluelouie 2018-08-06
Agree to disagree
1 bradok 2018-08-06
I don't know if that's a fair statement. Even if in practice America has seldom lived up to its ideals, those very ideals have provided the foundation with which more Freedoms were fought for more people.
The Constitution may have allowed for slavery, but the DoI created the cultural underpinnings to remove it. Senators may have once been the vanguard of the landed Elite's, but the Constitution gave us a method to change it, which we did. Women and non propertied people may not have been enfranchised once, but the "Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" provided the rationale for changing that.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
This started looooong before Trump. He's not the cause, he's a symptom. The systemic rot has been festering for at least 40 years at this point.
1 tjswooshmenzada 2018-08-06
yikes
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
crazy, isn't it?
1 New-world-cometh 2018-08-06
Oh look someone pushing MSMs narrative.
How hip
1 winksup 2018-08-06
Oh look, a great awakening and t_d poster denying literally anything is or ever has happened between trump and his campaign and Russia.
How hip.
1 New-world-cometh 2018-08-06
You got something to show us?
Trump colluding with Russia?
What do you have? You feel like sharing? Or are you just saying that it's obvious Trump is a Russian puppet cause Anderson Cooper told you with his dreamy eyes?
1 winksup 2018-08-06
I mean immediately the first thing that comes to mind is Trump admitting his son met with Russia for the sole purpose of getting dirt to use on Clinton lol after stating the meeting never took place, that he never knew, and then that it wasn’t about anything important. Literally no evidence will convince anyone that’s not convinced already so there’s zero point in pretending to have a discussion on this, no one that still posts in t_d and actively defends trump is interested in accepting he possibly did something he shouldn’t have.
1 New-world-cometh 2018-08-06
Well yeah, that's already been told to us by the MSM. I was just wondering if you personally knew something from direct experience.
Relax man, they got you all twisted
1 Coro40 2018-08-06
It is an indisputable fact that the Hillary campaign recieved dirt on Trump from Russia. So if Trump attempting to get dirt on his political opponent from Russia is wrong than Hillary actually doing it is most definitely wrong. Or are there different standards for Republicans than Democrats. As far as anybody knows the Russians Steele got the info from could have been directly working for Putin.
1 humpenscrumps 2018-08-06
What about, what about, what about.
1 Coro40 2018-08-06
LMAO When you can't disprove the point just whine.
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
Back off of breitbart, infowars and above top secret kid. Let the real adults deal with the real issues.
1 New-world-cometh 2018-08-06
If only I could be a REAL adult like you. I too would then be able to tell people on the conspiracy sub to lay off sites that talk about conspiracy. I could deal with REAL issues like the ones the Television tells me are important.
Mommy wow. I'm a big boy now
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
I'm glad to hear that you told your mommy that you're a big boy now. Did you go potty all by yourself?
1 StardustSpinner 2018-08-06
It looks like a conspiracy of the r/conspiracy sub to deny the fact that we are witnessing a conspiracy as big as 9/11 and the deliberate economic collapse of 2008.
1 dankweeddoe 2018-08-06
Can you show me those "facts"? I'm sorry 9/11 is a bigger conspiracy.
1 StardustSpinner 2018-08-06
You think 9/11 is a bigger conspiracy than gaining control of the U.S. government via crooked cooked elections?
1 FORKinmyDICK 2018-08-06
So you actually think there are 'sides' and that this isn't all one big show to divide and control us? Wake up man, whoever is controlling shit put Trump there, just like every puppet before him.
1 dankweeddoe 2018-08-06
2,996 people were killed on 9/11. How many people have died in the middle east from the wars started after 9/11?
You should probably look into the Trump-Russia conspiracy a little bit more.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
It's not worth arguing with this guy. If you ask him deeper questions I'm almost certain you'll find they don't even think 9/11 was anything other than what the NIST report states.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
9/11 was the hinge that created the America of today. A coup against the People of the United States used to justify wars and a paradigm shift in Western politics, facilitated by the death of almost 3,000 innocents. Your statement betrays your ignorance.
1 StardustSpinner 2018-08-06
I think calling a difference of opinion, ignorance, is just so special.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
There's different opinions and then there's ignorance. I said what I meant.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
A quick look at /hot would tell any genuine person here that this sub is being astroturfed hard. But not at all for the reasons you think...
Unless you see the Russia stuff itself as the conspiracy, in which case it makes more sense. And many of us on the Left feel this way to, it's not just Conservatives who disbelieve this.
It's quite clear you have no idea what fascism is nor the underlying strengths or weaknesses of the actual institutions of the Republic, which make a statement like that laughable.
1 dankweeddoe 2018-08-06
Curious question. If Trump is Putin's puppet. Why is he attacking Russian allies? Currently in a trade war with China. Threatening Iran with war and Iran is having naval drills in the Persian Gulf.
1 armorkingII 2018-08-06
Trump is in conflict with everyone--China, Iran, Russia, Canada, Mexico, the EU, UK, Turkey, North Korea, Palestine, etc.
The countries he is on good terms with are Israel/Saudi Arabia/Egypt (enemies of Iran, Russian ally), Japan, South Korea, and Poland/Hungary (as well as other Central and Eastern European nations who are historical enemies of Russia).
If he was owned by anyone, they'd have leaked dirt on him a long time ago. Trump is causing major problems for China and Iran.
1 dankweeddoe 2018-08-06
Please don't compare the conflicts with EU, Mexico, and Canada to Syria, China, Russia, NK, and Iran.
1 armorkingII 2018-08-06
They are different conflicts. Trump is clearly more bothered by trade and illegal immigration than he is nation building in the Middle East or replaying the Cold War.
1 theawesomethatis 2018-08-06
That's some mighty fine concern trolling.
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
nah, just a fleeting thought by someone who is grossed out by this sub. This is one of the saddest places I know of on the net.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
Then you don't really get around much on the net.
1 buffalo_chum 2018-08-06
Go post in r/politics if you need to cry about Trump
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
but this sub is called conspiracy. And it seems pretty goddamn undeniable that the President is guilty of conspiracy.
1 buffalo_chum 2018-08-06
No, no it doesnt seem "undeniable". It's a waste of time to go down that road, you'll chase the dragon forever.
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
u/buffalo_chum is busy in his moms basement spouting the lies of q.
1 buffalo_chum 2018-08-06
A. Mom is dead - therefore she has no basement
B. Never had a basement in my life - lived in Texas where basements are few are far between
C. I'm not a liar
D. Q is not something I would need or want to lie about, ever.
E. Trying to discredit and ridicule your opponent is the 5th and most important rule in Rules for Radicals - You are doing great!
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
Blah blah blah, you are the problem. You willingly choose to commit yourself to a total group of liars and criminals. History will not look kindly on you. Lived in texas for 5 yrs and met many gullible people such as you.
1 buffalo_chum 2018-08-06
Ok. Have a great day
1 bradok 2018-08-06
Your responses only hurt your cause more. Just want you to know that.
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
Oh my so now your going to use the holier than thou line? Tell me about all the hate the right has inflicted on democracy and then let's compare notes. The GOP produced nothing in the 8yrs while Obama was in office and you do realize it has been shown time and time again.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
Your mistake is thinking I'm a Conservative ;)
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
No, I wouldn't make that assumption. I never said conservatives, you made the assertion when I mentioned the gop.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
Yet you don't mention the DNC or the loss of over 1,000 State and local seats by the Party between 2010 and 2016. You don't mention the failure of Party leadership to correct this wrong, or HRC's failure to campaign in Wisconsin or Michigan more than 4 times after the convention. The fact that they are the ones who gave us Trump, not the Russians.
Hate is a two way street- Antifa does nothing but further divide the Nation. They use Nazi tactics to "fight Nazi's". As bad as the Right can be, the faux Left can match them.
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
So you are going to use "whataboutism"? Why is it that all of these pieces contain russia but the gop does nothing but issue condemnations or they make furrowed brows? Why is Rand Paul in russia now? Why won't the republicans beef up our cyber security? Who is running the county at this moment? Is it Obama or Clinton, can you provide a logical explanation for it? Why do you feel the need to support these traitors? Do you not enjoy your freedom or are you not a citizen of the USA?
1 bradok 2018-08-06
I'm not "supporting these traitors". I just don't believe the evidence is there for Collusion. I believe they are simply another Administration and that we have the ability to remove them from office in 2020, if we play our cards right and clean house in the Party.
I see it as a matter of political differences which can be corrected at the ballot box. You believe they are treasonous and with that rhetoric you are contributing to the increasing potential for violence you so bemoaned earlier.
1 ineedatree 2018-08-06
I've never once called for violence, I guess we will find out by September about Conspiracy and Treason. Remember collusion in and of itself is not illegal. How can it be corrected at the ballot box when we have russia continuing to interfere with our elections?
1 Herculius 2018-08-06
Openly admitting to collusion eh?
You're making stuff up.
1 NeDragons 2018-08-06
/s
You dropped this
1 winochamp 2018-08-06
Okay
1 drkjalan 2018-08-06
The difference between your conspiracy and the majority of the conspiracies posted is that yours is wholly fabricated with zero proof. Fuck off.
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
This is a cult. I understand.
1 drkjalan 2018-08-06
No you're just a faggot. Fuck off.
1 Cardinal_HELL 2018-08-06
No bundle of sticks. YOU'RE the bundle of sticks. Bundle of sticks!
1 dankweeddoe 2018-08-06
Can you show me those "facts"? I'm sorry 9/11 is a bigger conspiracy.
1 bradok 2018-08-06
It's not worth arguing with this guy. If you ask him deeper questions I'm almost certain you'll find they don't even think 9/11 was anything other than what the NIST report states.