R/Physics and R/AskPhysics are banning people mentioning or listing peer reviewed Journals on certain topics.

1  2018-08-17 by peptidehunter

I've violated none of the rules and yet was quickly banned for posting a link to a collection of peer reviewed studies and 1 peer reviewed study in Physics and for asking a question about peer reviewed research in AskPhysics.

I messaged them to try to understand how someone can be banned when not violating any rules and so far no reply.

I don't understand how certain studies can be considered illegal (yet not listed as such) to be posted on reddit. Can anyone help me understand what's going on?

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What topics? Do you have links?

LENR and Hydrino.

Link to my thread where I asked a basic question. Questions are now bannable offenses it seems. This is the future of classrooms? Ask a question and get kicked out of class with no reason or rule violated listed? I guess this is the mentality they have.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPhysics/comments/9876pc/what_peer_reviewed_research_has_been_done_on_lenr/

The other 2 were deleted entirely which is weird usually you can see your thread listed as removed but they went much further to remove any trace of my thread. Has that happened to any of you?

Here's one of them.

https://www.scribd.com/document/386449202/Power-determination-and-hydrino-product-characterization-of-ultra-low-field-ignition-of-hydrated-silver-shots-August-2018

I'll try to find the other one.

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Hydrino.

Brilliant Light Power has developed a new commercially competitive, non-polluting, plasma-based primary source of massive power from the conversion of hydrogen atoms of water molecules to dark matter, the previously unidentified matter that makes up most of the mass of the universe. The SunCell® that was invented to harness the new power source catalytically converts hydrogen directly into dark matter form called Hydrino® releasing brilliant high-energy light which is down-converted in energy to facilitate the production of electricity using commercially-available concentrator photovoltaic cells.

What is the reason they don't have a plant up selling power to the grid in say Africa or Texas where pretty much anyone can connect to the grid and sell power?

What is the reason they don't have a plant up selling power to the grid in say Africa or Texas where pretty much anyone can connect to the grid and sell power?

Any tech takes time and money to develop. Many scientists act in accordance blindly going with mainstream views no matter what new evidence is presented (I call these people Dodo's). This influences policies, educational standards, and public view with goals for maintaining the status quo. Some ideas are labeled with negative emotions like snake oil or quackery and if someone popular or important says it then many accept it without ever testing it.

They are set to begin leasing commercially in 2 years according to them.

I'm not asking anyone to blindly believe in anything. Just asking questions and sharing information.

Stanford Research Institute (a nonprofit who has created many ground breaking technologies) has tested their device and confirmed it is producing more energy than being energy out into it. This is no different than fusion. Yet mainstream scientists see no problem with the billions being spent on it for decades and still no working device.

It's a double standard.

Except they say they have developed it already as it they currently have functional machines converting hydrogen to dark matter.

BTW if they have figured out what dark matter is why aren't they telling anyone else how they detect and manipulate it?

Except they say they have developed it already as it they currently have functional machines converting hydrogen to dark matter.

BTW if they have figured out what dark matter is why aren't they telling anyone else how they detect and manipulate it?

There's 2 aspects to their device.

  1. It produces more energy than given. This has been confirmed by Stanford Research Institute.

  2. Dark matter is involved. To my knowledge this has not been confirmed but we don't know what testing they have done in house.

If you had a company with a ground breaking tech would you share all your data publically? That's not what any company does especially before they go public. Why share any information that competitors could copy and with more funding may go to market faster. It makes more sense to not to until after launching.

If its real, they would have patented it, nobody could steal this great discovery.

They have tried but other scientists complained and some were pulled after being granted. Not everything is proved by a patent. It's why Stanford tested it themselves and confirmed it.

They haven’t. It’s snake oil.

Stanford Research Institute disagrees with you and they are in a far better position to make that judgement than you are.

BTW if they have figured out what dark matter is why aren't they telling anyone else how they detect and manipulate it?

Here is the answer. They have confirmed it.

https://www.brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/CompositionDM042314.pdf

Ok, I just read their paper.

http://brillouinenergy.com/wp-content/docs/Brillouin%20Energy%20Hypothesis.pdf

Everything stems on the amount of power being produced being greater than 100% the projected power given.

This like more likely due to a failure in their calibration for power being measured due to their use of "multiple power supplies and switching mechanisms" which are causing them to read less power going into the system than is being produced.

I'll put money that when their tests are attempted to be reproduced, others will use an easily controllable and measurable power supply and will be unable to have a net energy gain.

No offense, but we don’t even know what dark matter is. Seems fishy that these people claim to have discovered a viable use for something (that’s commercially available of course) that hasn’t even been properly identified yet. If this was real they’d get a Nobel prize. Sorry dude, it’s fake.

No offense, but we don’t even know what dark matter is. Seems fishy that these people claim to have discovered a viable use for something (that’s commercially available of course) that hasn’t even been properly identified yet. If this was real they’d get a Nobel prize. Sorry dude, it’s fake.

We have ideas on various forms of dark matter and have the ability to detect it with certain satellites to a degree.

You think all scientists are accepted or even welcomed by mainstream scientists? You know how many people dismissed Telsa and he died penniless.

You say it's fake without any proof. Why would you assume any discovery would instantly go mainstream? Took years for antibiotics and other new developments to be taken seriously.

I don’t think you understand. Dark matter is one of the greatest mysteries of physics currently. We have ideas but no concrete theories of evidence of what it is. Ergo, it’s not commercially available. And also, any news about it would be a really big deal.

I get your distrust of the current state of mainstream science, but there are sometimes exceptions. Not saying you deserved to be banned but this stuff is clearly a scam.

I get your distrust of the current state of mainstream science, but there are sometimes exceptions. Not saying you deserved to be banned but this stuff is clearly a scam.

So you think it's just impossible for anyone to discover it? Didn't they say the same of most discoveries you know before it was discovered everyone thought the world was flat.

You say it's a scam solely because they believe dark matter is powering it. Yet it's proven to produce more energy than it's given so how is it a scam if it does what it say it does? Also why would Stanford Research Institute perpetuate this scam?

I don’t think you understand. Dark matter is one of the greatest mysteries of physics currently.

No it's you who didn't read any of the papers and don't understand it.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2058-6272/aa7383

" Moreover, the mH catalyst was identified to be active in astronomical sources such as the Sun, stars and interstellar medium wherein the characteristics of hydrino match those of the dark matter of the Universe."

Do you really think they would be commercially available if such discoveries were made?

No offence, but get real. Any such discoveries would be suppressed beyond belief, as on this planet, economic viability while maintaining the status quo of wealth and power for the current corporate machines on top takes precedence over any solid science. If that were not the case then clearly we wouldn't be literally destroying and polluting the Earth we live and breathe on, now would we? But we are as nobody gives a fuck about actual science, they want to maintain their profits and wars and will only allow the science that goes in line with that. If anyone thinks that a source of "free" (not technically free but extremely abundant and easy to extract) form of energy that is not commercially viable and cannot be easily monetized would be available and broadcast into the public arena, I have some sand to sell to you.

Do you really think they would be commercially available if such discoveries were made?

No offence, but get real. Any such discoveries would be suppressed beyond belief, as on this planet, economic viability while maintaining the status quo of wealth and power for the current corporate machines on top takes precedence over any solid science. If that were not the case then clearly we wouldn't be literally destroying and polluting the Earth we live and breathe on, now would we? But we are as nobody gives a fuck about actual science, they want to maintain their profits and wars and will only allow the science that goes in line with that. If anyone thinks that a source of "free" (not technically free but extremely abundant and easy to extract) form of energy that is not commercially viable and cannot be easily monetized would be available and broadcast into the public arena, I have some sand to sell to you.

I go based on facts and having reviewed the facts at hand yes in this case.

What makes you think it's not suppressed? Just mentioning it got me banned so yeah of course it's suppressed.

Try actually reading the papers before you dismiss the company, all the papers, patents, and 3rd party confirmations.

Dude read my comment again. I'm agreeing with you and defending your point of view. I do think it's suppressed.

I don’t think you understand. Dark matter is one of the greatest mysteries of physics currently.

No it's you who didn't read any of the papers and don't understand it.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2058-6272/aa7383

" Moreover, the mH catalyst was identified to be active in astronomical sources such as the Sun, stars and interstellar medium wherein the characteristics of hydrino match those of the dark matter of the Universe."

Yeah, that doesn’t make it dark matter. I’ve been reading about it and apparently the “hydrino” conveniently becomes invisible (hence the dark matter claim) when it releases its energy.

Sorry, but I’m skeptical on this one. If it turns out to be true, great, but the dude has been making similar claims since the 90s. If it’s legit, I hope it gets recognition. But as of now it basically violates thermodynamics and ignores QM entirely. Again, I don’t think you should be banned for talking about it but as of right now it seems to be a scam.

Yeah, that doesn’t make it dark matter. I’ve been reading about it and apparently the “hydrino” conveniently becomes invisible (hence the dark matter claim) when it releases its energy.

Sorry, but I’m skeptical on this one. If it turns out to be true, great, but the dude has been making similar claims since the 90s. If it’s legit, I hope it gets recognition. But as of now it basically violates thermodynamics and ignores QM entirely. Again, I don’t think you should be banned for talking about it but as of right now it seems to be fake.

The spectrum is identical which makes it dark matter.

Hopefully the Parker Solar Probe will confirm this.

Regardless as I've already stated whether it's dark matter or not the device is proven to work. So why are you calling it fake?

I see no proof that the device works. It would be nice, but there’s no proof. Please don’t be so credulous.

Because you didn't read any of the 3rd party reports. Why are you calling the Stanford Research Institute liars? Don't be so lazy

No but your invocation of their name to prove a point is argument from authority. I’m done with this convo, no offense. Believe what you want, I’ve given you my opinion. If I turn out to be wrong that would be pretty cool though.

No

You read none of the reports, papers, or patents. You are incapable of giving any meaningful type of opinion on the subject. Now go run away and fuck off little boy.

I’m staring to think you got banned from the physics subs for a reason other than what your original post implied.

Either way, multiple people have explained why they think you’re wrong or why the company is using fake technology. If you still choose to believe that it’s your business. But don’t attack people personally over a relatively minor disagreement.

Either way, multiple people have explained why they think you’re wrong or why the company is using fake technology.

With no actual evidence. Why should I care what idiots think? I would choose Stanford over people on reddit who can't understand qm to begin with.

That’s fine, but it doesn’t give you the right to be a jerk to people and attack them personally. Responding to my comment with the vitriol you did demonstrates that you aren’t that secure in your position. Also, you made this post, so you clearly do care what random redditors think. Calm yourself down and learn how to be civil, maybe you’ll win more people over.

You're the one calling SRI liars and BLP's device snake oil. With zero proof.

I'm not interested in winning anyone over. People who are intelligent and not closed minded will understand. Dodo's who believe the earth is flat will go on no matter what research is done.

The spectrum is identical which makes it dark matter.

Spectrum of what? Where are you getting this information from?

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Spectrum of what? Can you quote what you're referencing?

But as of now it basically violates thermodynamics

So does the Coronal heating problem. So what so don't think the Coronal heating problem exists? LOL.

I do research on cold dark matter theory. You have made false statements. Furthermore, the below paper uses garbage math.

Not as much as I have. Name one. My stance is the device works as independently reviewed.

Your entire claim on dark matter?

It's not my claim. They measured the energy spectrum of dark matter (based on satellite solar imaging data) and it matches. I see nothing disproving this. When the parker probe gets to the sun I expect them to confirm this.

What? Dark matter, by definition, does not interact with the EM force, and cannot emit an energy spectrum.

Looks like "disruptive technology".

It is but only for people intelligent enough to realize it. Most people are complete idiots.

Michio Kushi

This is the future of classrooms?

r/anything This is not a classroom. Nor is it the only anonymous discussion site.

If you haven't figured it out yet, almost every major sub on reddit has been compromised by mods work8ng for corporate government interests.

Why aren't they coming after this sub?

They aren't, eh?

Well they are letting posts like these in.... Shouldn't they be trying to hide them?

Why, when they can shape the forum through vote manipulation? Also, it's not like every shill mod is working for the same people.

Because we already wear the label “Conspiracy Theorists” which is enough to discredit us in the eyes of many.

Who's to say they aren't already here.

Because they are tracking people's IP addresses and tracking them in person.

Reddit is now basically one step removed from the MSM so don't be surprised at the fuckery.

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YES.

any "science" or related sub is 100% bullshit. It's entirely controlled and only certain subjects with certain narratives are authorized to exist. Everything else is deleted, removed, banned, etc... and don't you dare criticize it.

It's not bullshit it's regulated. Some of them definitely should be, like the ones that people use for medical and veterinary advice. As for the general r/science it's better described as fluff. It's more accessible to the average person and not intended to be ground breaking.

Yeah, regulated against anything that may be counter to a certain kind of narrative they are attempting to push through their own manipulated "research".

Do you think all research is fake or only what gets posted on r/science? You are aware that what gets posted is not automatically agreed with right? It's very clear in the comments.

I think what gets posted on /r/science is highly curated to only fit a prescribed narrative that the mods are wanting to cultivate. I think what gets blocked from being posted on /r/science is anything that is counter to that narrative including any and all criticism of current posts, criticism of mods, questions about validity on content, etc... I think this because of the numerous incidents in which this exact thing happened to me and many others.

I have posted peer reviewed studies on why soy is harmful, the physical copies are almost all gone and banned from scanning. (Medical journals). It has been going on for a while. Most science studies pre 2000 are being deleted, removed, banned, or suppressed. I live in Michigan and I am scared to say the scientists name while I am DRUNK. I'll see inbox shit tomorrow. Might share then. Scientific studies are controlled, and have been for a long time.

why would you want them to weigh in on your question? sounds like you have your mind made up about that sub’s credibility. look else where. reddit isn’t the end all be all of learning.

Hydrino

If this is that Brilliant Light Power stuff, the math doesn't work out. Period. The ground state is like the limit for the atoms, full stop. The so-called "peer-reviewed" papers were mostly written by R. Mills, and he got ridiculed for his math. His math is way off. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b99e/d25cce79025a80f43f7f8f98b8f044f00e7f.pdf

LENR

Cold fusion in disguise. Same problem. The math doesn't add up.

Physics uses math extensively. If the math doesn't add up, then the physics probably doesn't either.

Stanford Research Institute confirmed it works. Unless you're suggesting they lied.

They are a company created by some trustees, not the actual university. The main investigator seems to tow the line to get government funding, then gives interviews about something that even he failed to do. There's no experimental or theoretical progress. Period.

So you're accusing SRI of lying to the scientific community and all the 3rd party confirmation reports also lies? Sounds like a conspiracy...

There are no third party confirmation reports. All supposed reports get eviscerated soon after because they often conduct poor experiments. It's not a conspiracy. It's a bunch of excited people doing quick experiments so that they could get that grant money. It's more common than everyone would like to admit in physics. My friend found an article that had two exactly identical noise patterns. This kind of questionable work is rather common.

Well that's just a lie. Show me EXACTLY where your read that. Otherwise you're a fucking liar.

"During April-May 2016, five independent third-party validations of Brilliant Light Power’s SunCell Technology were carried out at BrLP’s facilities in Cranbury, NJ."

Yeah. Read that quote again. Now you can answer these questions.

  1. Who conducted the validations? Who are these third-party observers.

  2. Where did that conduct their supposed validation? MIT? Caltech? Oh, wait...

  3. How spread out was these events? Oh, yeah, a couple months.

I've already proven to you that the entire hypothesis of CQM is wrong. It's internally inconsistent.

Answer my questions first since you're the one making false allegations. I posted the link with all the info. Read it yourself.

The coronal heating problem violates the laws of thermodynamics so are you going to say it's not real either?

Answer my questions first since you're the one making false allegations. I posted the link with all the info. Read it yourself.

The coronal heating problem violates the laws of thermodynamics so are you going to say it's not real either?

Answer my questions first since you're the one making false allegations. I posted the link with all the info. Read it yourself.

The coronal heating problem violates the laws of thermodynamics so are you going to say it's not real either?

I think that I proved it to you. The only people who support this technology are the ones hired and paid for by BLP, something that they gladly share to the press and in their own websites.

No, it doesn't. There are other mechanisms consistent with electromagnetism and quantum mechanics that explain the phenomenon, but we just won't declare which one is right because we can't observe the Sun or make fusion on Earth.

Not to mention the complete and utter lack of evidence despite the company being around since 1991.

Physics uses math extensively.

That's true, but just because the "math" works doesn't mean the assertions are correct. Dungeons and Dragons has elaborate rules, sound math, but is no more real than the tooth faerie. I'm not mocking Physics or Mathematics, just pointing out the results are only as useful as the quality and completeness of the inputs.

I don't know about the mathematicians, but the physicists use real world observation and experimentation to ensure the quality of their findings and theoretical developments. The math just works out a self-consistent theory.

R/Space just did the same thing. Deleted a thread with no explanation or even a notice.

The entire field of cold fusion has faced experimental rejection over and over again. The first is the experiment in Caltech that killed cold fusion a few decades ago.

The BLP doesn't even publish any detail on their experiment. Here's their third-party "validation". They invite some people (no one knows who they are) to sit and watch them print out data (no one knows if they are allowed access), finally approving it without any real monitoring. Here's a challenge to the BPL. Release their experiment methodology, so that it can be replicated outside of their New Jersey laboratories. Otherwise, their "third-party validation" is first-party validation. No false allegations here. Scientists don't like it when researchers pretend to replicate their results, without releasing any data or anything to prove it.

The coronal heating problem only causes problems when we sea heat itself propagate from the core. Other explanations sufficiently provided mechanisms for the heat creation and transfer. We just can't have enough observation of the Sun (for the obvious reasons) to figure out which one makes sense.

I hope this comment answers some questions. Already solved math problems (although they can be extremely tricky to solve) aren't the mainstream trying to suppress technology. It's just... Math...

(no one knows who they are)

Their names are listed. So that's just false to claim no one know who they are. You obviously didn't even look at the link. Otherwise how could you not know that basic fact?

https://brilliantlightpower.com/validation-reports/

(no one knows who they are)

Their names are listed. So that's just false to claim no one know who they are. You obviously didn't even look at the link. Otherwise how could you not know that basic fact?

https://brilliantlightpower.com/validation-reports/

That was a waste of an hour.

Let's go over these people who people don't know.

I won't name names, but most of these people had association with an experiment at Rowan University in New Jersey. The experiment had partial funding from R. Mills (https://www.metro.us/news/local-news/philadelphia/scientist-claims-dark-matter-powered-device-can-create-nearly-limitless). One physicist, who has not even published a single article (listed in Google Scholar, arXiv, etc.) in this century had a "validation report" listed on your corporate source, which only cited a certain R. Mills almost always. There's this running theme of this desperation to find a new energy source to counter fossil fuels, as described by the websites and such of the researchers listed.

I don't want to bash these guys because I'm not a chemist or an AMO expert (I can probably speak with the people I know and get their assessment). Yet, it seems like the experts listed may not be as big in the relevant fields like AMO and solid state physics. Most of them are engineers or lecturers.

Their reports demonstrate that. They mostly report on the calorimetry readings and none of the physics behind the work. They just seem amazed by the results they see. They can't explain what's going on. Then, they say that they witness a new power source.

I think that I can figure out that most of them consult for Blacklight for pay.

I don't want to bash these guys because I'm not a chemist or an AMO expert

That much is obvious.

Right. I'm right now sliding along an astrophysics track, not an AMO track. Also, don't ask chemists about quantum mechanics.

You no makey the energy. You buyey the energy. Sony even think about it.

“I thought we lived in America”.

You shouldn’t be posting to /physics, really. I live in London (just for reference).

Dude, ALL the top subreddits have supermods and they ALL censor whatever they deem dissenting opinions/uncomfortable truth

Take a look at ceddit to see how fucked up Reddit is.

I think what gets posted on /r/science is highly curated to only fit a prescribed narrative that the mods are wanting to cultivate. I think what gets blocked from being posted on /r/science is anything that is counter to that narrative including any and all criticism of current posts, criticism of mods, questions about validity on content, etc... I think this because of the numerous incidents in which this exact thing happened to me and many others.